Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc
Hi Alan, does this help... http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-sslvnc.html?ca=dgr-lnxw02SSLVNC Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc
On 28/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. I can't do a simple X forwarding to the Xubuntu machine. See sshd_config(5) about X11Forwarding. At least on Debian it says the following: X11Forwarding Specifies whether X11 forwarding is permitted. The argument must be yes or no. The default is no. i.e. you have to add X11Forwarding yes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restart sshd in order to make the ssh daemon accept the X11 forwarding request from the ssh client. ---Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise
I just saw that too, take anything that fool says with a grain of salt ;) Just look what the say guy said about the Parallels on OSX sometime ago, absolutely an idiot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMaCvfNbKJo On 1/29/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just watched a preview of Vista on the Seven Sunrise program and all I can say is: Wow!! I get a new looking desktop with pretty, scrolling preview panes of the processes that are running. I can organise my photos - wasn't I able to do that before? I can organise my music and I can download the CD covers so that it all looks like a record store. Didn't anyone think to ask about DRM? ...and it's all available at Hardly Normal's at midnight. One question was whether it's reliable - well it has been out there with 5M users in test - I'm one who downloaded a pre-RC1 and found that it wouldn't load in VMware. So, get to Hardly Normal at midnight and shell out your $199 for the upgrade - what version upgrade is that? ...and keep a spare grand or so handy when you find it won't run on your current hardware. OK, Seven Sunrise is light on anyway, but this is ridiculous... -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise
On 1/29/07, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/915.gif Haha. Oddly enough my mac just works ;) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise
hi So, get to Hardly Normal at midnight and shell out your $199 for the upgrade - what version upgrade is that? ...and keep a spare grand or so handy when you find it won't run on your current hardware. what version? thats easy :) http://joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html cu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:42:00 +1100 Sam Lawrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/01/2007, at 5:27 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:54:52 +1100 Sam Lawrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/01/2007, at 4:44 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote: I have been trying to install x11vnc and then use ssh tunnels to connect. There are two different machines that I am trying to connect to, one Ubuntu and one is an Apple iBook running Xubuntu. 1 I have no problem with either machine NOT using ssh 2 using ssh: ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 remote_name 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' Works great with the Ubuntu machine Does not work with the Xubuntu machine (vncviewer localhost:0 appears to connect, but there is no display) I presume it must be some setting in ssh, but I can't see any difference. Can anyone help? Try using the verbose flag to ssh and/or x11vnc, and compare the two machines. Hmm. I can't do a simple X forwarding to the Xubuntu machine. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh -v -X misty emacs ... emacs: standard input is not a tty I think the original problem lies elsewhere - that's an expected error, see the SSH manpage regarding tty / pty allocation and the -t option. It fails with all programs. The problem is that the DISPLAY variable is not getting set. After logging into both machines with ssh -X machine_name - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY localhost:10.0 ** Ubuntu machine where everything works - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY ** Xubuntu machine where nothing works [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ -- The /etc/ssh/sshd_config files are the same in both machines. I don't know how DISPLAY gets set -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 427 486 206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc
here is help I recieved with this Ken Ken, I think that I have found the problem with your display. When you logged in as root you lost the authorization for the display. The long version can be found on this page... https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/l-lpic1110/section4.html You need to log in though. So here is an excerpt from that page. Good luck cheers Exporting a display An X display is known by a name of the form hostname:displaynumber.screennumber. For Linux running on a workstation such as a PC, there is typically only one display with a single screen. In this case, the displayname may be, and usually is, omitted so the display is known as :0.0. The DISPLAY environment variable is usually set to the display name., so you can display it using the command echo $DISPLAY. Depending on your system, this variable may or may not be set if you use su - to switch to another user. In such a case, you may need to set and export the DISPLAY as shown in Listing 25. In this listing you see an attempt to start the xclock application after switching to root, but the attempt fails because the DISPLAY environment variable is not set. Even if the DISPLAY variable is set, you still may not be able to use the display, as you will also need authorization to do so. Listing 25. Attempting to start xclock [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ whoami ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ echo $DISPLAY :0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ su - Password: lyrebird:~ # echo $DISPLAY lyrebird:~ # xclock Error: Can't open display: lyrebird:~ # export DISPLAY=:0.0 lyrebird:~ # echo $DISPLAY :0.0 lyrebird:~ # xclock Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0.0 lyrebird:~ # export XAUTHORITY=~ian/.Xauthority lyrebird:~ # xclock lyrebird:~ # ls -l ~ian/.Xauthority -rw--- 1 ian users 206 Feb 18 16:20 /home/ian/.Xauthority Let's take a look at what is going on here. In this case, the user ian logged in to the system and his DISPLAY environment was set to :0.0 as we expect. When user ian switched to user root, the DISPLAY environment variable was not set, and an attempt to start xclock failed because the application did not know what display to use. So the substituted user, root, set the DISPLAY environment variable, and exported it so that it would be available to other shells that might be started from this terminal window. Note that setting and exporting an environment variable does not use the leading $ sign, while displaying or otherwise using the value does. Note too, that if the su command had omitted the - (minus) sign, the DISPLAY environment variable would have been set as it had been for user ian. Nevertheless, even with the environment variable set, xclock still failed. The reason for the second failure lies in the client/server nature of X. Although root is running in a window on the one and only display on this system, the display is actually owned by the user who logged in originally, ian in this case. Let's take a look at X authorization. Alan L Tyree wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:42:00 +1100 Sam Lawrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/01/2007, at 5:27 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:54:52 +1100 Sam Lawrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/01/2007, at 4:44 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote: I have been trying to install x11vnc and then use ssh tunnels to connect. There are two different machines that I am trying to connect to, one Ubuntu and one is an Apple iBook running Xubuntu. 1 I have no problem with either machine NOT using ssh 2 using ssh: ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 remote_name 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' Works great with the Ubuntu machine Does not work with the Xubuntu machine (vncviewer localhost:0 appears to connect, but there is no display) I presume it must be some setting in ssh, but I can't see any difference. Can anyone help? Try using the verbose flag to ssh and/or x11vnc, and compare the two machines. Hmm. I can't do a simple X forwarding to the Xubuntu machine. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh -v -X misty emacs ... emacs: standard input is not a tty I think the original problem lies elsewhere - that's an expected error, see the SSH manpage regarding tty / pty allocation and the -t option. It fails with all programs. The problem is that the DISPLAY variable is not getting set. After logging into both machines with ssh -X machine_name - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY localhost:10.0 ** Ubuntu machine where everything works - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY ** Xubuntu machine where nothing works [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ -- The /etc/ssh/sshd_config files are the same in both machines. I don't know how DISPLAY gets set -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:04:38 +1100 Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is help I recieved with this Ken Ken, I think that I have found the problem with your display. When you logged in as root you lost the authorization for the display. The long version can be found on this page... But I haven't logged in as root. I just ssh -X in as myself. On one machine the display gets reset properly (presumably by ssh?) but on the other it doesn't. And I can't seem to find any real difference between the two. I also do X forwarding by ssh-ing into a Sun box. This also works without problems. The Sun DISPLAY variable gets properly reset. It is only my Xubuntu iBook that is being recalcitrant. Thanks for the reference. Interesting stuff. Alan https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/l-lpic1110/section4.html You need to log in though. So here is an excerpt from that page. Good luck cheers Exporting a display An X display is known by a name of the form hostname:displaynumber.screennumber. For Linux running on a workstation such as a PC, there is typically only one display with a single screen. In this case, the displayname may be, and usually is, omitted so the display is known as :0.0. The DISPLAY environment variable is usually set to the display name., so you can display it using the command echo $DISPLAY. Depending on your system, this variable may or may not be set if you use su - to switch to another user. In such a case, you may need to set and export the DISPLAY as shown in Listing 25. In this listing you see an attempt to start the xclock application after switching to root, but the attempt fails because the DISPLAY environment variable is not set. Even if the DISPLAY variable is set, you still may not be able to use the display, as you will also need authorization to do so. Listing 25. Attempting to start xclock [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ whoami ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ echo $DISPLAY :0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ su - Password: lyrebird:~ # echo $DISPLAY lyrebird:~ # xclock Error: Can't open display: lyrebird:~ # export DISPLAY=:0.0 lyrebird:~ # echo $DISPLAY :0.0 lyrebird:~ # xclock Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0.0 lyrebird:~ # export XAUTHORITY=~ian/.Xauthority lyrebird:~ # xclock lyrebird:~ # ls -l ~ian/.Xauthority -rw--- 1 ian users 206 Feb 18 16:20 /home/ian/.Xauthority Let's take a look at what is going on here. In this case, the user ian logged in to the system and his DISPLAY environment was set to :0.0 as we expect. When user ian switched to user root, the DISPLAY environment variable was not set, and an attempt to start xclock failed because the application did not know what display to use. So the substituted user, root, set the DISPLAY environment variable, and exported it so that it would be available to other shells that might be started from this terminal window. Note that setting and exporting an environment variable does not use the leading $ sign, while displaying or otherwise using the value does. Note too, that if the su command had omitted the - (minus) sign, the DISPLAY environment variable would have been set as it had been for user ian. Nevertheless, even with the environment variable set, xclock still failed. The reason for the second failure lies in the client/server nature of X. Although root is running in a window on the one and only display on this system, the display is actually owned by the user who logged in originally, ian in this case. Let's take a look at X authorization. Alan L Tyree wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:42:00 +1100 Sam Lawrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/01/2007, at 5:27 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:54:52 +1100 Sam Lawrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/01/2007, at 4:44 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote: I have been trying to install x11vnc and then use ssh tunnels to connect. There are two different machines that I am trying to connect to, one Ubuntu and one is an Apple iBook running Xubuntu. 1 I have no problem with either machine NOT using ssh 2 using ssh: ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 remote_name 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' Works great with the Ubuntu machine Does not work with the Xubuntu machine (vncviewer localhost:0 appears to connect, but there is no display) I presume it must be some setting in ssh, but I can't see any difference. Can anyone help? Try using the verbose flag to ssh and/or x11vnc, and compare the two machines. Hmm. I can't do a simple X forwarding to the Xubuntu machine. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh -v -X misty emacs ... emacs: standard input is not a tty I think the original problem lies elsewhere - that's an expected error, see the SSH manpage regarding tty / pty allocation and the -t option. It fails with all programs.
Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise
On 29/01/07, Michael Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw that too, take anything that fool says with a grain of salt ;) Just look what the say guy said about the Parallels on OSX sometime ago, absolutely an idiot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMaCvfNbKJo Whenever I see this couple I can't stop thinking about Comedy Inc., things like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m83xaglArYI --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise
Howard Lowndes wrote: I've just watched a preview of Vista on the Seven Sunrise program and ^ ^ Your reasoning has a fatal flaw. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Vista preview on Seven Sunrise
Hmmm http://nylug.org/pipermail/nylug-talk/2007-January/032461.html I'm going to a NYLUG meeting later this year. Should be interesting :) -- Richard www.sheflug.org.uk -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc
Alan L Tyree wrote: It fails with all programs. The problem is that the DISPLAY variable is not getting set. After logging into both machines with ssh -X machine_name - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY localhost:10.0 ** Ubuntu machine where everything works - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY ** Xubuntu machine where nothing works [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ -- The /etc/ssh/sshd_config files are the same in both machines. I don't know how DISPLAY gets set If you add -vv to your ssh flags, you'll see something like: debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth -f /tmp/ssh-2fcsElfWeT/xauthfile generate 127.0.0.1:0.0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 untrusted timeout 1200 2/dev/null debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth -f /tmp/ssh-2fcsElfWeT/xauthfile list 127.0.0.1:0.0 2/dev/null debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. debug2: channel 0: request x11-req confirm 0 after the connection is authenticated. Every time I've had a problem like this, it was because xauth wasn't installed on the server. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:58:56 +1100 Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan L Tyree wrote: It fails with all programs. The problem is that the DISPLAY variable is not getting set. After logging into both machines with ssh -X machine_name - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY localhost:10.0 ** Ubuntu machine where everything works - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY ** Xubuntu machine where nothing works [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ -- The /etc/ssh/sshd_config files are the same in both machines. I don't know how DISPLAY gets set If you add -vv to your ssh flags, you'll see something like: debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth -f /tmp/ssh-2fcsElfWeT/xauthfile generate 127.0.0.1:0.0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 untrusted timeout 1200 2/dev/null debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth -f /tmp/ssh-2fcsElfWeT/xauthfile list 127.0.0.1:0.0 2/dev/null debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. debug2: channel 0: request x11-req confirm 0 after the connection is authenticated. Every time I've had a problem like this, it was because xauth wasn't installed on the server. debug2: x11_get_proto: /usr/bin/X11/xauth list :0.0 2/dev/null debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. debug2: channel 0: request x11-req confirm 0 debug2: client_session2_setup: id 0 debug2: channel 0: request pty-req confirm 0 debug1: Sending environment. debug1: Sending env LANG = en_AU.UTF-8 debug2: channel 0: request env confirm 0 debug2: channel 0: request shell confirm 0 debug2: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY debug2: callback done debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768 debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 131072 Linux misty 2.6.17-10-powerpc #2 Tue Dec 5 22:00:09 UTC 2006 ppc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ type xauth xauth is /usr/bin/xauth Sigh! I don't **need** to ssh -X into this machine, so maybe I'll stop wasting time on it. Very frustrating. Alan -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 427 486 206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise
On Monday 29 January 2007 08:00, Michael Fox wrote: I just saw that too, take anything that fool says with a grain of salt ;) Just look what the say guy said about the Parallels on OSX sometime ago, absolutely an idiot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMaCvfNbKJo Hadn't seen it before, but now I feel dumber for having watched it. Regards, Andrew Swinn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Installing Nvidia card
On Monday 29 January 2007 06:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Well, it looks like I may be able to get myself a new video card for my desktop. I'm going to get an Nvidia card. I have on-board video and haven't previously installed a vid card into a machine that already had an on-board vid card so am seeking some advice. Do I have to disable the on-board card in the BIOS or will this occur automatically? The motherboard is a GA-81865GVMK-775. I've installed sound cards etc before, but not a vid card and so naturally am seeking advice *before* I do anything. Any assistance, referrals or advice will be most appreciated. 1) PLUG OUT your machine, or wall-plug off. Power Switch does NOT off the PCI bus 2) Plug in your new card 3) Plug in the monitor and switch on Its possible to make the primary-card the on-board card, but not normal, so no other action required James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fedora access and securtiy
On Monday 29 January 2007 06:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one time, at band camp, Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This *is* the simple method. Once you've installed shorewall, you'll only have to edit a few files in /etc/shorewall - probably these: I dont doubt that shorewall is a good product for this. You're right, it's overkill. Just use system-config-securitylevel-tui; it has an option to customize. Just allow incoming ssh. But I would prefer to simply edit the native files. Is this possible? The nature of your question and the magnitude of the changes you want suggest that no it is not possible. (of course it is! but this is a complicated area, don't underestimate the problems AND the whole task is an ART not a SCIENCE, your call ...) James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise
Q: I want to chat about non-technical stuff, where should I post this kind of message? A: slug-chat. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Vista preview on Seven Sunrise
On Mon, January 29, 2007 7:53 am, Howard Lowndes wrote: I've just watched a preview of Vista on the Seven Sunrise program and all I can say is: Wow!! I saw the 'preview' on Nine(MSN) this morning what the reviewer pushed was 'parental controls' and no need for third party add on security; -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] impromptu DebSIG meeting?
Hi all, I'm a new DD and I'm in Sydney for a few weeks (till feb 17th), was hoping DebSIG would have an event during that time, but nothing is posted on the SLUG website. Any Debian/SLUG folk up for a beer in a pub somewhere? I'm in Rozelle for now, so somewhere in the city would be good (Criterion maybe), or there is a pub down the end of the street (Wellington St in Rozelle). PS: I'm not subscribed, so please CC me on any replies. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Vista preview on Seven Sunrise
Just got home and found a Meyer catalogue in the mailbox - frontpage is Windows Vista Launching 30 Jan. The 'WOW' Starts Now - more likely that the 'WOW stands for WOn't Work from what Ive been reading online lately. This, together with the Hardly Normal TV adverts re Midnight opening for Vista purchases, meansn that we'll be inundated with more B'S ad's that don't mention unsupported hardware and DRM. Same goes for the next couple of months issues of PC mags. Thankfully there's still Linux Format, Linux Mag. Linux Gazette etc. Besides, why would you want Vista, better to spend the money on a Wii or even an XBox 360. I haven't used Windows (XP Pro) since last April and haven't missed it ( well, except for the Trojans, Virii etc.). Bill I've just watched a preview of Vista on the Seven Sunrise program and all I can say is: Wow!! I get a new looking desktop with pretty, scrolling preview panes of the processes that are running. I can organise my photos - wasn't I able to do that before? I can organise my music and I can download the CD covers so that it all looks like a record store. Didn't anyone think to ask about DRM? ...and it's all available at Hardly Normal's at midnight. One question was whether it's reliable - well it has been out there with 5M users in test - I'm one who downloaded a pre-RC1 and found that it wouldn't load in VMware. So, get to Hardly Normal at midnight and shell out your $199 for the upgrade - what version upgrade is that? ...and keep a spare grand or so handy when you find it won't run on your current hardware. OK, Seven Sunrise is light on anyway, but this is ridiculous... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] comsec
Hi I am having some trouble with comsec and their automated trade service, I keep getting bounces of their mail DATA: malformed address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n may not follow [EMAIL PROTECTED] : failing address in To: header is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] m.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using exim. I have tried to tell them they have a problem, but I also send it to my work email address and it works quite happily. I have tracked it down to my data ACL, but now I am reaching my limit of smtp. Any one else having these problems, any suggestions on how to solve them, or where I can point to some specifications to waive at the face (and probably be ignored!) Alex Samad signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] comsec
On 1/29/07, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DATA: malformed address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n may not follow [EMAIL PROTECTED] : failing address in To: header is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] m.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does every line sent by your exim finish with CR and NL? The error above could be taken to imply that your CRs are missing. -- Christopher -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Keyboard nav in Evolution (or GTK?)
The 2.8.1 version of Evolution in Ubuntu Edgy (or maybe it's whatever GTK version is in Gnome 2.16) seems to have broken/changed some of the old keyboard navigation. In the 2.6.x version in Dapper, I could use shift-leftarrow to collapse threads and shift-rightarrow to expand threads when viewing them in Evolution. That no longer works in the email list and is a PITA. Incidentally it works when selecting folders when moving an email?! Can anyone suggest how I can fix it or if there's a different key combo (I've tried ctrl, alt) that does this? Thanks. -- Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
