Re: [SLUG] removing duplicate files

2007-07-04 Thread Rick Welykochy

Kevin Shackleton wrote:


I have a directory tree with a lot of duplicate leaves.

The command rm -r junkfile does not work, saying:
 cannot lstat 'junkfile'

I even seeded the root of this tree with one of these files but still
the rm command did not recurse.

I know the command rm -rf * would get rid of these files with
colateral damage.

What am I missing please?



man rm

This will tell you that the -r flag is for recursively
removing directories, not files:

   -r, -R, --recursive
  remove directories and their contents recursively

Might I suggest using find + rm , ie.

find . -name junkfile -exec rm {} \;



cheers
rickw


p.s. I know what you mean by the vague concept of seeding.  For
many of the GNU shell utilities it would be nice to be able to
specify that -r is to work recursively on the file/pattern specified
as the argument(s), i.e.

ls -R somefile

currently will not list somefile unless it is a directory.

I guess that what find is for :)


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Re: [SLUG] removing duplicate files

2007-07-04 Thread Amos Shapira

On 04/07/07, Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


p.s. I know what you mean by the vague concept of seeding.  For
many of the GNU shell utilities it would be nice to be able to
specify that -r is to work recursively on the file/pattern specified
as the argument(s), i.e.

ls -R somefile

currently will not list somefile unless it is a directory.




$ ls --version
ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97
...
$ ls -lR x
-rw-r--r-- 1 user group 177 2007-06-29 15:52 x

x is a regular file and ls lists it. What version of ls(1) are you using?

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Re: [SLUG] removing duplicate files

2007-07-04 Thread Rick Welykochy

Amos Shapira wrote:


On 04/07/07, Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ls -R somefile
currently will not list somefile unless it is a directory.


$ ls --version
ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97
...
$ ls -lR x
-rw-r--r-- 1 user group 177 2007-06-29 15:52 x

x is a regular file and ls lists it. What version of ls(1) are you using?


Mea culpa.

ls -R somefile

will not list somefile in subdirectories, i.e.

$ ls -lR somefile
-rw-r--r-- 1 rick rick 0 2007-07-04 20:04 somefile

$ find . -name somefile
./tmp/somefile
./somefile


cheers
rickw



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Re: [SLUG] removing duplicate files

2007-07-04 Thread Zhasper

On 04/07/07, Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Amos Shapira wrote:

 On 04/07/07, Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ls -R somefile
 currently will not list somefile unless it is a directory.

 $ ls --version
 ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97
 ...
 $ ls -lR x
 -rw-r--r-- 1 user group 177 2007-06-29 15:52 x

 x is a regular file and ls lists it. What version of ls(1) are you using?

Mea culpa.

ls -R somefile

will not list somefile in subdirectories, i.e.

$ ls -lR somefile
-rw-r--r-- 1 rick rick 0 2007-07-04 20:04 somefile

$ find . -name somefile
./tmp/somefile
./somefile


pedant

In that circumstance, there's a way to do it with just ls:

spindle:~/tmp polleyj$ ls -lR */somefile somefile
-rw-r--r--   1 polleyj  polleyj  0 Jul  4 21:20 hello/somefile
-rw-r--r--   1 polleyj  polleyj  0 Jul  4 21:20 somefile

it doesn't scale though; for the general case, find is more useful, as
you've said.
/pedant

Regarding the original question, I second your suggestion:

find . -name junkfile -exec rm {} \;

However, I offer the caveat that it will file if there are special
characters (particularly  ) in the filename. As a more robust (but
more heavyweight, more forking, more cycles, more ram (but - the
amounts we're talking about are trivial, except in extreme cases -
just something to be aware of for the odd times when this fails
because you hit one of the extreme cases)):

find . -name junkfile -print0 | xargs -0 rm


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Re: [SLUG] removing duplicate files

2007-07-04 Thread Raphael Kraus

G'day...


pedant

In that circumstance, there's a way to do it with just ls:

spindle:~/tmp polleyj$ ls -lR */somefile somefile
-rw-r--r--   1 polleyj  polleyj  0 Jul  4 21:20 hello/somefile
-rw-r--r--   1 polleyj  polleyj  0 Jul  4 21:20 somefile

it doesn't scale though; for the general case, find is more useful, as
you've said.
/pedant


Whilst we're being pedantic...

$ find . -type d -name somefile

Yes, you're right find is very useful... ;)

All the best!

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Re: [SLUG] removing duplicate files

2007-07-04 Thread Kevin Shackleton
To explain more about my remove duplicate file problem . .

# rm -rv somefile

returns:

rm: cannot lstat `somefile': No such file or directory

The problem is in lstat, not rm.  The problem is that it's not recursing
the directories.

Neither will Gnome File Browser search these directories.

The problem I suspect is that over time having copied this set of
directories several times through different file systems, including as a
share from a Windows VMWare session, the property bits of the directory
entries have been made incorrect.  They are executable, as per Matthew
Hannigan's post on Monday.  I can cd through the directories and they
appear to be correct in every other way except recursing through them.

(they are mp3 data and just to be different xmms does recurse when asked
to load a directory that has subdirectories)

Any thoughts?  And a command to fix the several hundred directories too
please!

Thanks,

Kevin.


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[SLUG] Re: ISP Rebranding/ Wholesaleing question (Zenaan Harkness)

2007-07-04 Thread David Peterson

Hi Zenaan,

I'm not sure that SLUG is the best forum for your question. SLUG tends
to be a technically-focused list on Linux (and occasionally other Unix)
issues. Have you tried asking around on the Whirlpool site, or doing a
Google search on Whirlpool for reseller or similar. This is probably
your best bet.

Now there used to be an OZ ISP list but I believe this may now be
defunct. To begin your research, you could try to get in touch with a
few major ISPs/telcos (companies like Internode / Agile, People Telecom,
etc spring to mind - but please don't take this as a recommendation) and
 discuss their partner programmes with them.

You probably need to ask yourself whether you plan to set up a full ISP
operation (costly and technically complex) or whether you simply plan to
act as a reseller for an existing ISP (shorter time-to-market, less
capital intensive, etc).

All the best. Hope this helps.

David

 
 Hi, I'm looking for some information on starting an ISP:
 
 1) ISP Upstreams who provide rebranding (must include ADSL).
 
 2) Info on ISP backoffice software as well (radius server, etc). I found
 eg. http://www.anime.net/linuxisp/Linux-ISP-HOWTO.html but it's from
 1995!
 Did give me a good start to reading though... I've been doing a lot of
 reading on software required - dns, email, control panel, etc. Happy for
 recommendations.
 
 3) Is there a forum - physical gathering slug-like forum - for small
 to medium ISPs, in Sydney?
 
 4) Recommended online community for small/med ISPs?
 
 PS: I spoke to someone last Friday night, I think John - I discovered
 Sat night that my mailbox was full, unfortunate events... it's emptied,
 although Godaddy's IP addresses are right now RTBLed (couldn't post
 this email to slug), so hopefully gmail might work...
 
 Thanks in advance
 Zen
 
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[SLUG] Sound in Ubuntu

2007-07-04 Thread Heracles

Hi,
How do I tell Ubuntu to ignore the built in via sound card and use my 
Sound Blaster Live sound card. I can tell some programs to use it but 
flash and some others ignore it. Is there a way to tell ubuntu (7.0.4 
btw) to completely ignore the via sound system?


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Re: [SLUG] removing duplicate files

2007-07-04 Thread Amos Shapira

On 04/07/07, Kevin Shackleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


To explain more about my remove duplicate file problem . .

# rm -rv somefile

returns:

rm: cannot lstat `somefile': No such file or directory



Is somefile the exact file name (e.g. full path name or full path between
current working dir and the file?). If not then it indeed won't lookup the
file in the directories underneath and you need to use find.

If the file is in your current working directory and just typing rm
somefile doesn't find it then I suspect the name you type is not the
right one - maybe there are control characters or unicode characters in the
file name?

See man ls for ways to ask ls to display special characters like -b,
-N, or -q. If you go the -N way then pipe the output through cat -v
-t -e.

The problem is in lstat, not rm.  The problem is that it's not recursing

the directories.



It's not a problem - that's the way it's supposed to happen. See man rm.

Neither will Gnome File Browser search these directories.


The problem I suspect is that over time having copied this set of
directories several times through different file systems, including as a
share from a Windows VMWare session, the property bits of the directory
entries have been made incorrect.  They are executable, as per Matthew
Hannigan's post on Monday.  I can cd through the directories and they
appear to be correct in every other way except recursing through them.



How do you define recursing through them?

(they are mp3 data and just to be different xmms does recurse when asked

to load a directory that has subdirectories)



So it can't be a permissions problem - all processes of the same user are
equal in the eyes of the filesystem.

Any thoughts?  And a command to fix the several hundred directories too

please!



First let's decide what exactly is the problem before trying to hit it
randomly until it breaks, shall we?

Thanks,


Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Sound in Ubuntu

2007-07-04 Thread Steven Tucker
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 23:21 +1000, Heracles wrote:
 Hi,
 How do I tell Ubuntu to ignore the built in via sound card and use my 
 Sound Blaster Live sound card. I can tell some programs to use it but 
 flash and some others ignore it. Is there a way to tell ubuntu (7.0.4 
 btw) to completely ignore the via sound system?
 
 Heracles

I pretty much never mess with sound, so im not exactly an expert, but at
a guess I would suggest running alsaconf and selecting the device you
want to use.

I use Debian and only use one sound card, so I may be off the mark, but
it seems logical.

Tuxta

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[SLUG] PC cases (Towers) available - FREE :)

2007-07-04 Thread elliott-brennan

Hi all,

I know this is not *specifically* Linux-stuff but...

Following some cleaning out, I have about five PC 
cases - some with p/s - that I'm looking to 
off-load, urm... I mean, Happy to give to those 
in need :))


I'm in Belmore, work in Ashfield and have rels in 
Campbelltown.


If you don't have a car but live VERY local (eg. 
Belmore and immediate surrounds or on the way to 
Ashfield), I'd be willing drop off.


Regards,

Patrick


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Re: [SLUG] Sound in Ubuntu

2007-07-04 Thread Felix Sheldon
Heracles wrote:
 Hi,
 How do I tell Ubuntu to ignore the built in via sound card and use my
 Sound Blaster Live sound card. I can tell some programs to use it but
 flash and some others ignore it. Is there a way to tell ubuntu (7.0.4
 btw) to completely ignore the via sound system?

First, run in a terminal:

   sudo asoundconf list

which will give you a list of the names of the cards

then:

  sudo asoundconf set-default-card name-of-card

You will have to restart any sound apps running already before they use
the new card.

If you need to switch between cards often,

  apt-get install asoundconf-gtk

will add a Default sound card option to your system - preferences menu

Or you could just turn it off in the BIOS if you never use it.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: ISP Rebranding/ Wholesaleing question (Zenaan Harkness)

2007-07-04 Thread Marghanita da Cruz

The Internet Industry Association and ISOC-AU may be useful groups to check out.

http://www.iia.net.au
http://www.isoc-au.org.au

And it wouldn't hurt to check out
http://www.tio.com.au/

If you are looking to provide hosted applications, you may be best working with 
an existing ISP.


Marghanita

David Peterson wrote:

Hi Zenaan,

I'm not sure that SLUG is the best forum for your question. SLUG tends
to be a technically-focused list on Linux (and occasionally other Unix)
issues. Have you tried asking around on the Whirlpool site, or doing a
Google search on Whirlpool for reseller or similar. This is probably
your best bet.

Now there used to be an OZ ISP list but I believe this may now be
defunct. To begin your research, you could try to get in touch with a
few major ISPs/telcos (companies like Internode / Agile, People Telecom,
etc spring to mind - but please don't take this as a recommendation) and
 discuss their partner programmes with them.

You probably need to ask yourself whether you plan to set up a full ISP
operation (costly and technically complex) or whether you simply plan to
act as a reseller for an existing ISP (shorter time-to-market, less
capital intensive, etc).

All the best. Hope this helps.

David


Hi, I'm looking for some information on starting an ISP:

1) ISP Upstreams who provide rebranding (must include ADSL).

2) Info on ISP backoffice software as well (radius server, etc). I found
eg. http://www.anime.net/linuxisp/Linux-ISP-HOWTO.html but it's from
1995!
Did give me a good start to reading though... I've been doing a lot of
reading on software required - dns, email, control panel, etc. Happy for
recommendations.

3) Is there a forum - physical gathering slug-like forum - for small
to medium ISPs, in Sydney?

4) Recommended online community for small/med ISPs?

PS: I spoke to someone last Friday night, I think John - I discovered
Sat night that my mailbox was full, unfortunate events... it's emptied,
although Godaddy's IP addresses are right now RTBLed (couldn't post
this email to slug), so hopefully gmail might work...

Thanks in advance
Zen




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[SLUG] Printer problem

2007-07-04 Thread Alan L Tyree
Hi,
I accidently (!) removed my working printer from the printer dialog on
Debian Etch with Gnome. I'm trying to re-establish it.

I'm getting the following messages in syslog:

Jul  5 09:35:08 windy python: [4215] error: Unable to set locale.
Jul  5 09:35:08 windy kernel: ppdev0: registered pardevice
Jul  5 09:35:08 windy kernel: ppdev0: negotiated back to compatibility
mode because user-space forgot Jul  5 09:35:08 windy kernel: ppdev0:
unregistered pardevice


Can anybody give me a clue as to what I should do?

Many thanks,
Alan

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Re: [SLUG] ISP Rebranding/ Wholesaleing question

2007-07-04 Thread O Plameras

Zenaan Harkness wrote:

Hi, I'm looking for some information on starting an ISP:


So, looking for info to start an ISP ?

There is no single public document that I know that tells the ABC of  how
to start and run an successful ISP. But I can say the general guidelines 
that one
considers to run one, having started one  in 1993 and sold out in 2001 
to a public company

for a retirement.

1. The technical aspect of starting and running an ISP is only a small 
part of it.


2. One needs a Business Plan to start with. Ninety-nine percent of 
failure in

business ventures starts with NO Business Plan. A Business Plan is like a
Bible to religious persons; you read  it every day and implement it 
yourself;

only you write  and re-write it yourself.

3. You also need Organization, Finance, Marketing, Support structures,
Project Management abilities, and lots of learning and re-learning in all
of these aspects of business. I recommend you read a book called Think 
and Grow Rich

by Nathan Hale.

4. ISP business is like other businesses; they evolve with business 
focus and

with the markets. You have to anticipate, implement, and re-engineer when
called for.

Hope this helps.

O Plameras

Disclaimer: Do not take my word for it. You have to make your own research
and on that basis make your own business decisions.


1) ISP Upstreams who provide rebranding (must include ADSL).

2) Info on ISP backoffice software as well (radius server, etc). I found
eg. http://www.anime.net/linuxisp/Linux-ISP-HOWTO.html but it's from
1995!
Did give me a good start to reading though... I've been doing a lot of
reading on software required - dns, email, control panel, etc. Happy for
recommendations.

3) Is there a forum - physical gathering slug-like forum - for small
to medium ISPs, in Sydney?

4) Recommended online community for small/med ISPs?

PS: I spoke to someone last Friday night, I think John - I discovered
Sat night that my mailbox was full, unfortunate events... it's emptied,
although Godaddy's IP addresses are right now RTBLed (couldn't post
this email to slug), so hopefully gmail might work...

Thanks in advance
Zen



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[SLUG] PHP/Sugar programmer needed to finish custom CRM program in Glebe

2007-07-04 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin

Hi!  A friend of mine from a training company (they deliver OHS
training) is looking
for a PHP/Sugar programmer to pick up a half-finished CRM program and
finish the little beastie and get it usable.

If you know anybody who might be interested, please pass this along to them.

Contact: Derek at Courtnelle, phone (02) 9552-2380
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Re: [SLUG] ISP Rebranding/ Wholesaleing question

2007-07-04 Thread O Plameras

O Plameras wrote:


3. You also need Organization, Finance, Marketing, Support structures,
Project Management abilities, and lots of learning and re-learning in all
of these aspects of business. I recommend you read a book called 
Think and Grow Rich

by Nathan Hale.

This should be by Napoleon Hill.

My apologies.

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[SLUG] Printers again

2007-07-04 Thread Alan L Tyree
Never mind. It's working. I don't know why!!

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Re: [SLUG] ISP Rebranding/ Wholesaleing question

2007-07-04 Thread Barrie Hall


- Original Message - 
From: Zenaan Harkness [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: SLUG slug@slug.org.au
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: [SLUG] ISP Rebranding/ Wholesaleing question



Hi, I'm looking for some information on starting an ISP:

1) ISP Upstreams who provide rebranding (must include ADSL).

2) Info on ISP backoffice software as well (radius server, etc). I found
eg. http://www.anime.net/linuxisp/Linux-ISP-HOWTO.html but it's from
1995!
Did give me a good start to reading though... I've been doing a lot of
reading on software required - dns, email, control panel, etc. Happy for
recommendations.

3) Is there a forum - physical gathering slug-like forum - for small
to medium ISPs, in Sydney?

4) Recommended online community for small/med ISPs?

PS: I spoke to someone last Friday night, I think John - I discovered
Sat night that my mailbox was full, unfortunate events... it's emptied,
although Godaddy's IP addresses are right now RTBLed (couldn't post
this email to slug), so hopefully gmail might work...

Thanks in advance
Zen


Zennaan,

The usual process in building a DSL ISP in oz is as follows:

1) Contact Telstra Wholesale and request a Layer 2 wholesale DSL service.
2) Organise AGVC links (ATM or GE)  to Telstra IGR's in each state where you 
would like to sell services
3) These links will terminate at your premises in each state, you need to 
supply LNS's (these terminate PPP over L2TP from your customers)
4) Organise RADIUS (Free RADIUS)  for your LNS's to talk to, this becomes 
your authentication and accounting platform (RADIUS will need to feed 
accounting records into your billing system

5) Organise DNS (BIND is fine)
6) Organise Internet transit (Telstra, Optus, etc)
7) Provide a mail platform (I don't think thats a must have these days)
8) Build a customer care portal so your customers can check their usage, 
change plans, etc.



The hardest bit is the billing system (IMHO)

Cheers,
Barrie











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Re: [SLUG] ISP Rebranding/ Wholesaleing question

2007-07-04 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
This one time, at band camp, Barrie Hall wrote:

 1) Contact Telstra Wholesale and request a Layer 2 wholesale DSL service.

Or, potentially, another provider with their own DSLAM network.  This 
would, however, limit your coverage area substantially.  But that might 
be worth doing depending on the niche you're targetting.

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