Re: [SLUG] SpamAssassin - MailMarshall Replacement
Hi Trent, we use Maia Mailguard for this. works pretty well and fits the combo you are after. We have packages for Ubuntu dapper that work sorta ok :) http://www.maiamailguard.com/maia/wiki/AboutMaia thanks dave Trent Murray wrote: Hi all, I currently have a customer using MailMarshall Email filter - this product allows the users to log on via a web client and check for messages that have been marked as spam, release mail if necessary and ammend rules. Can anyone recommend a similar front end for spamassassin that can be used by Jo User without too much complication? Thanks again in advance. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Later Versions of *grep
Most of us know that, way back when, and Ken Thompson still had a black beard, that there were three basic version of grep, with prefixed or flags that turned them on a such, but not fully integrated version of this tool that would work as quickly as the three versions. This, I think, went by the board, sometime ago, what with faster processors, DFA-type algorithms and the like. Now we seem to have mostly one, copied into it's various destinations by the squanders, or symlinked by the thrifty. What the hell! It's all gotten so much bigger and faster, so why bother: the toolbox approach was alright for tradesman, who actually had toolboxes, but for the rest I discovered this, a decade or so ago, when an out-of-the-box distribution ran (very signifcantly more slowly) that equivalent pattern-matchers in awk and perl. The problem was easy enough to fix, it just involved resetting the $LANG variable in the shell to C or POSIX. The current en_US setting produces a much more attenuated problem of the one described above, and isn't worth worrying about unless, as I do (I'm a linguist) you use *grep repetetively, where it surges once more into prominence. The actual culprit is the as-shipped `fgrep', which has a very curious conception of what a word is, unless it is operating in the right locale. I haven't bothered to localize this exactly, but I know from strace that many processes do a fair bit of locale-checking on their way to execution. Given that English as a mother-tongue is the fourth-most spoken language on the planet, and as a second (and, in many case, semi-bilingual setting) is spoken by more than 1 billion people, a great many of whom do not speak or write American dialects of English, maybe the developers of *grep should take this into account. I personally solved the problem by replacing my sym-linked fgrep with a far-older (yet fully functional) version. Maybe I should forward this one as a bugs report, although it's been a bug for years. Maybe we should all talk POSIX (I have certain professional doubts about that). Search lists, the -f option, is not, I think, behaving nicely. Cheers, Malcolm Johhston -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Later Versions of *grep
Heavy grep users may also be interested in ack. http://search.cpan.org/dist/ack/ack Adam K Malcolm Johnston wrote: Most of us know that, way back when, and Ken Thompson still had a black beard, that there were three basic version of grep, with prefixed or flags that turned them on a such, but not fully integrated version of this tool that would work as quickly as the three versions. This, I think, went by the board, sometime ago, what with faster processors, DFA-type algorithms and the like. Now we seem to have mostly one, copied into it's various destinations by the squanders, or symlinked by the thrifty. What the hell! It's all gotten so much bigger and faster, so why bother: the toolbox approach was alright for tradesman, who actually had toolboxes, but for the rest I discovered this, a decade or so ago, when an out-of-the-box distribution ran (very signifcantly more slowly) that equivalent pattern-matchers in awk and perl. The problem was easy enough to fix, it just involved resetting the $LANG variable in the shell to C or POSIX. The current en_US setting produces a much more attenuated problem of the one described above, and isn't worth worrying about unless, as I do (I'm a linguist) you use *grep repetetively, where it surges once more into prominence. The actual culprit is the as-shipped `fgrep', which has a very curious conception of what a word is, unless it is operating in the right locale. I haven't bothered to localize this exactly, but I know from strace that many processes do a fair bit of locale-checking on their way to execution. Given that English as a mother-tongue is the fourth-most spoken language on the planet, and as a second (and, in many case, semi-bilingual setting) is spoken by more than 1 billion people, a great many of whom do not speak or write American dialects of English, maybe the developers of *grep should take this into account. I personally solved the problem by replacing my sym-linked fgrep with a far-older (yet fully functional) version. Maybe I should forward this one as a bugs report, although it's been a bug for years. Maybe we should all talk POSIX (I have certain professional doubts about that). Search lists, the -f option, is not, I think, behaving nicely. Cheers, Malcolm Johhston -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] please unsubscribe all wildtecnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from SLUG lists
Please remove all wildtechnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from your lists. Both of these domains are going to my personal hotmail account now and a previous staff member subscribed to your lists. If this is not done within 7 days, I will report this list as a source of SPAM. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:27:08 +1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] SpamAssassin - MailMarshall Replacement CC: slug@slug.org.au Trent Murray wrote: I currently have a customer using MailMarshall Email filter - this product allows the users to log on via a web client and check for messages that have been marked as spam, release mail if necessary and ammend rules. Can anyone recommend a similar front end for spamassassin that can be used by Jo User without too much complication? This may be a bit overblown for Jo User but have a look at MailWatch for MailScanner: http://mailwatch.sourceforge.net/doku.php With the obvious implication being that you also need to install MailScanner: http://www.mailscanner.info/ It's a pretty impressive combo, but may require you to get your hands a bit dirtier than you are after so may not be quite suitable. Craig -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] please unsubscribe all wildtecnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from SLUG lists
Really!! How difficult is it to get off your lazy arse and call the ex-employee to change their subscription. The other thing is how ethical is it to have the ex-employee's emails forwarded to your external account? On 17/07/07, Timothy Bolot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please remove all wildtechnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from your lists. Both of these domains are going to my personal hotmail account now and a previous staff member subscribed to your lists. If this is not done within 7 days, I will report this list as a source of SPAM. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:27:08 +1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] SpamAssassin - MailMarshall Replacement CC: slug@slug.org.au Trent Murray wrote: I currently have a customer using MailMarshall Email filter - this product allows the users to log on via a web client and check for messages that have been marked as spam, release mail if necessary and ammend rules. Can anyone recommend a similar front end for spamassassin that can be used by Jo User without too much complication? This may be a bit overblown for Jo User but have a look at MailWatch for MailScanner: http://mailwatch.sourceforge.net/doku.php With the obvious implication being that you also need to install MailScanner: http://www.mailscanner.info/ It's a pretty impressive combo, but may require you to get your hands a bit dirtier than you are after so may not be quite suitable. Craig -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] please unsubscribe all wildtecnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from SLUG lists
No. On 7/17/07, Timothy Bolot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please remove all wildtechnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from your lists. Both of these domains are going to my personal hotmail account now and a previous staff member subscribed to your lists. If this is not done within 7 days, I will report this list as a source of SPAM. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:27:08 +1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] SpamAssassin - MailMarshall Replacement CC: slug@slug.org.au Trent Murray wrote: I currently have a customer using MailMarshall Email filter - this product allows the users to log on via a web client and check for messages that have been marked as spam, release mail if necessary and ammend rules. Can anyone recommend a similar front end for spamassassin that can be used by Jo User without too much complication? This may be a bit overblown for Jo User but have a look at MailWatch for MailScanner: http://mailwatch.sourceforge.net/doku.php With the obvious implication being that you also need to install MailScanner: http://www.mailscanner.info/ It's a pretty impressive combo, but may require you to get your hands a bit dirtier than you are after so may not be quite suitable. Craig -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] please unsubscribe all wildtecnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from SLUG lists
This is all getting a tad childish. observe the footer Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html or use hotmail to block emails to or cc'd with slug@slug.org.au far out. its not like you pay for hotmail. maybe im just unusually accustomed to blocking peoples contacts. Dean James Dumay wrote: No. On 7/17/07, Timothy Bolot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please remove all wildtechnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from your lists. Both of these domains are going to my personal hotmail account now and a previous staff member subscribed to your lists. If this is not done within 7 days, I will report this list as a source of SPAM. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:27:08 +1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] SpamAssassin - MailMarshall Replacement CC: slug@slug.org.au Trent Murray wrote: I currently have a customer using MailMarshall Email filter - this product allows the users to log on via a web client and check for messages that have been marked as spam, release mail if necessary and ammend rules. Can anyone recommend a similar front end for spamassassin that can be used by Jo User without too much complication? This may be a bit overblown for Jo User but have a look at MailWatch for MailScanner: http://mailwatch.sourceforge.net/doku.php With the obvious implication being that you also need to install MailScanner: http://www.mailscanner.info/ It's a pretty impressive combo, but may require you to get your hands a bit dirtier than you are after so may not be quite suitable. Craig -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] please unsubscribe all wildtecnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from SLUG lists
On 18/07/07, Dean Hamstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all getting a tad childish. Indeed. observe the footer Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Right. or use hotmail to block emails to or cc'd with slug@slug.org.au far out. its not like you pay for hotmail. maybe im just unusually accustomed to blocking peoples contacts. I suspect you are - making him properly unsubscribe will probably eventually also decrease the load on SLUG's server by that much. But just try to google about Timothy Bolot and see what type of character you are dealing with. He gives an impression of some over-confident corporate PHB with absolutely no technical clue but still used to giving orders and threatening people around him. For some reason I have flashes of RTA's recent anti-speeding campaign. (What's the difference between a software sales person and a car sales person? With a car sales person there is a slight chance that he actually knows how to drive). --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] please unsubscribe all wildtecnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from SLUG lists
I first went to wildit, domain scroll down the bottom. the footer reads. (c) 2000-2007 Wild Internet Telecom Pty Ltd (in Liquidation), then after reading Amos, email did do a search for our friend. :) it seems what goes around comes around. Nice little public letter from a John Russell. lol Amos I love your signature, that is so true. On 18/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/07/07, Dean Hamstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all getting a tad childish. Indeed. observe the footer Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Right. or use hotmail to block emails to or cc'd with slug@slug.org.au far out. its not like you pay for hotmail. maybe im just unusually accustomed to blocking peoples contacts. I suspect you are - making him properly unsubscribe will probably eventually also decrease the load on SLUG's server by that much. But just try to google about Timothy Bolot and see what type of character you are dealing with. He gives an impression of some over-confident corporate PHB with absolutely no technical clue but still used to giving orders and threatening people around him. For some reason I have flashes of RTA's recent anti-speeding campaign. (What's the difference between a software sales person and a car sales person? With a car sales person there is a slight chance that he actually knows how to drive). --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] please unsubscribe all wildtecnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from SLUG lists
Timothy Bolot wrote: Please remove all wildtechnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from your lists. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:27:08 +1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] SpamAssassin - MailMarshall Replacement I never even noticed to start with that I had been singled out as the cause of his outburst. I wonder if that means I'm on his hitlist now? Craig pointedly not quaking in my boots -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] please unsubscribe all wildtecnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from SLUG lists
For spams-sake, lets just consider this thread closed. Cheers James On 7/18/07, Craig Dibble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timothy Bolot wrote: Please remove all wildtechnology.net / wildit.com.au email addresses from your lists. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:27:08 +1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] SpamAssassin - MailMarshall Replacement I never even noticed to start with that I had been singled out as the cause of his outburst. I wonder if that means I'm on his hitlist now? Craig pointedly not quaking in my boots -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
