[SLUG] Proxy setting for yum in Fedora 7
Hi All, Sorry to bother you all again. I hope you guys can help me. In Fedora 7 where would you set the ip address of the proxy for using yum? Please can you let me know the name of the file and I am forwarding my squid.conf to another proxy server would I put in that proxy servers ip address or use local host and what port number would I use. Thanks, Lee --- South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za -- For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Networking problem - help pls!
On 20/09/2007, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 11:04:04AM +1000, bill wrote: I have a home LAN of 4 PCs and 1 laptop. Connected phone-line -- modem/router -- gigabit ethernet switch -- PCs ( via CAT5 cable) I've just noticed that you mention that you ue CAT-5 cables. Maybe they are not good enough for Gigabit and you should switch to Cat-6. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable (even if this cable works with other configurations, maybe it's a border-line case which crosses the border in this particular configuration). --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[Fwd: Re: [SLUG] xmms won't play for non-root]
Creating an audio group, assigning /dev/dsp to the audio group and adding myself to the audio group made no difference. It seems that I've applied a solution without knowing what the problem was. Any clues as to how to identify the problem? From: Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most likely cause is that you are not in the 'audio' group. Erik -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] xmms won't play for non-root
Kevin Shackleton wrote: Creating an audio group, assigning /dev/dsp to the audio group and adding myself to the audio group made no difference. If you type 'groups' in an xterm, are you in the audio group? Whats the output of ls -l /dev/dsp? Is xmms set up to use /dev/dsp for output or is it ALSA? Is you machine using read OSS /dev/dsp or the ALSA emulation? If its the emulation, are the snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss modules loaded? Is it possible some other application has a lock on the audio output preventing xmms from playing? Have you tried playing audio with any other applications? Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Being really good at C++ is like being really good at using rocks to sharpen sticks. -- Thant Tessman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] xmms won't play for non-root]
On 9/20/07, Kevin Shackleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Creating an audio group, assigning /dev/dsp to the audio group and adding myself to the audio group made no difference. It seems that I've applied a solution without knowing what the problem was. Any clues as to how to identify the problem? What are the permissions on /dev/dsp? Do other sound apps work for non-root users? Haven't used xmms for a long time, do you have the same output plugin selected for root and non-root? What has changed on your system since it worked last? CheersSteve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[Fwd: Re: [SLUG] xmms won't play for non-root]
Erik, Yes, I tested with 'groups', /dev/dsp shows the group is 'audio'. This pc uses ALSA. I've had trouble with eg audacity in the past where there was competition between possible audio streams Now, this is weird - when I ran 'strace xmms' (to see if I could pick an error) it all worked! Except - xmms could not work the playlist: the bolded track was not the one that was playing. I wonder if I have a problem with whatever the graphic toolkit is? I might also note that strace was not on FC7 - we've apparently outgrown that as a debugging tool. Maybe it's time to mess about with drives and go to Etch . . Kevin. Forwarded Message From: Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Shackleton wrote: Creating an audio group, assigning /dev/dsp to the audio group and adding myself to the audio group made no difference. If you type 'groups' in an xterm, are you in the audio group? Whats the output of ls -l /dev/dsp? Is xmms set up to use /dev/dsp for output or is it ALSA? Is you machine using read OSS /dev/dsp or the ALSA emulation? If its the emulation, are the snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss modules loaded? Is it possible some other application has a lock on the audio output preventing xmms from playing? Have you tried playing audio with any other applications? Erik -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how?
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:42:13AM +1000, John Clarke wrote: Unfortunately HP only provide updates as a package with a Windows (not DOS) program called WinFlash. Thanks to all who replied with suggestions on how to do the upgrade without reinstalling Windows. I did finally manage to do the upgrade, but it took a few attempts before I got it to work: - replacing my hard disc with another containing Windows didn't work. The only disc I could get hold of was from a Dell laptop, and that wouldn't boot (apparently because Dell do something weird in their boot loader). - building the Ultimate Boot CD for Windows on a Windows PC at work failed build because the machine I was using had a different version of Cygwin (cygwin1.dll) installed to that used by the tools in the UBCD4Win package, which meant that the UBCD4Win tools wouldn't run, and neither would any Cygwin programs on the PC until I rebooted it. - building the Ultimate Boot CD for Windows on a new (Dell) latop with Vista and no Cygwin worked, but the BIOS upgrade program wouldn't run because it's hard-coded to use C:, and only B: (RAM disc) and X: (CD) were available. Mounting a network drive onto C: was my first thought for a workaround but that wasn't possible because I couldn't get networking to start. - unpacking the BIOS program under Wine and copying to a USB flash drive didn't work either because it didn't accept the hotplugged flash drive. - rebooting from the Windows CD with the flash drive plugged in worked, and finally something went right: the flash drive appeared as C:. I ran the program, upgraded the BIOS, and it worked. It even fixed the corrupted model and serial numbers :-) Cheers, John -- Ah, the advantage of M$ software. As the number of errors in the software grows towards infinity, the probability that a specific error is non-trivial approaches 0. Which means all M$ related problems are trivial and easily solved by Googling. -- Toni Lassila -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] xmms won't play for non-root]
On 20/09/2007, Kevin Shackleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Creating an audio group, assigning /dev/dsp to the audio group and adding myself to the audio group made no difference. It seems that I've applied a solution without knowing what the problem was. Any clues as to how to identify the problem? strace xmms... and look for failed system calls, probably involving files under /dev. read strace(1), there are many ways to make its output more readable and useful. --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and Windows interoperabiliy
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 09:29 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: Our coders now use Cygwin to make shell scripts run on Windows and noticed that the API is GPL'ed (they just port shell scripts but for output redirection they had to write a small C program using the API). There are exceptions to scripting that allows you to use the product to write scripting without affecting copyright. The important idea is 'use' not linking. Another the key factor is distribution. If software never goes outside your doors then you are safe. Finally, Open Source does not stop profit. We have a non-saleable product that would generate support dollars if we released it open source. -- Ken Foskey FOSS developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] undocumented null cipher for ssh?
If you're looking for quick sending of files and don't care about encryption, netcat and some tar might do the trick for you - http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/~djw/tarpipe.html On 20/09/2007, Scott Ragen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeremy Portzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 20/09/2007 02:00:21 PM: Are you sure this is a standard option? I've tried this in the past and never been able to make it work, and on my current system it just gives: $ ssh -c none localhost No valid ciphers for protocol version 2 given, using defaults. $ ssh -V OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-8ubuntu1, OpenSSL 0.9.8c 05 Sep 2006 Maybe the null cipher is available if you use SSH protocol version 1, but I don't have any servers that support ssh v1 anymore. I should've done more investigations; openssh doesn't allow the cipher none (anymore), the proprietary ssh has the option. There are patches to enable cipher none in openssh if its really needed. Regards, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] xmms won't play for non-root]]
I've dodged it all and installed Etch. strace wasn't in my FC7 but it is in Etch. strace'ing on xmms in FC7 resulted in a steady stream of data - 2 or 3 lines a second - it would have to be carefully grepped to see anything useful. Etch doesn't install xmms by default but Rythymbox works (it didn't in FC) Cheers, Kevin. Forwarded Message From: Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Slug slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] xmms won't play for non-root] Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:00:46 + On 20/09/2007, Kevin Shackleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Creating an audio group, assigning /dev/dsp to the audio group and adding myself to the audio group made no difference. It seems that I've applied a solution without knowing what the problem was. Any clues as to how to identify the problem? strace xmms... and look for failed system calls, probably involving files under /dev. read strace(1), there are many ways to make its output more readable and useful. --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SCO delisted from NASDAQ
It has not been delisted yet and the decision is subject to appeal. So they have not been delisted from NASDAQ - apparently there is a certain amount of time between filing chapter 11 and NASAQ delisting your company - and this reporter is just passing this fact off as news. ~James On 9/20/07, DaZZa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The final death throes begin... http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/LAW12419092007-1.htm DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Printer
Hello all, Can anyone recommend a cheap printer ( mainly for b/w page printouts ) to use with Ubuntu Feisty +. Also recommendations for a cheapish mp3 player that does ogg ( thinking ogg playback is superior to mp3 ) ? Thanks, Gav -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Printer
*pedantic* technically ogg is just an envelope, its vorgis you are after *endpedantic* dont go past lexmarks from aldi, they are laser and way cheap. they work quite well in linux (look for a penguin on the side) i wouldnt (i dont infact) go past ipods for personal audio, however i use the AAC format rather than mp3. it is smaller for the same apparent quality and supposedly uses less power to play. Dean gav wrote: Hello all, Can anyone recommend a cheap printer ( mainly for b/w page printouts ) to use with Ubuntu Feisty +. Also recommendations for a cheapish mp3 player that does ogg ( thinking ogg playback is superior to mp3 ) ? Thanks, Gav -- http://fragfest.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Proxy setting for yum in Fedora 7
Hi Lee, Not sure about version 7, but it's usually found in /etc/yum.conf You can add the line like proxy=http://proxy.example.com:3128 Which proxy you should use I guess depends upon what other systems would be using yum and which proxies they use... eg, if there's no other systems going through the proxy on localhost then you'll only end up wasting a bit of extra disk space.. but it probably doesn't matter too much anyway, whatever you think is easier to maintain, eg have a standard yum config for all fedora machines is usually a good idea On 9/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Sorry to bother you all again. I hope you guys can help me. In Fedora 7 where would you set the ip address of the proxy for using yum? Please can you let me know the name of the file and I am forwarding my squid.conf to another proxy server would I put in that proxy servers ip address or use local host and what port number would I use. Thanks, Lee --- South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za -- For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Change of Email Address
** This is an automatically generated email - my apologies ** if you receive it in error or more than once. snowfrog.net is soon to be no more! My new email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], and my website is now at http://soniahamilton.wordpress.com. Please update your address book. -- Thanks, Sonia Hamilton. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Printer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Not sure about what you mean by cheap. Small Lasers are quite cheap these days. I have an old Lexmark Optra E312L that works perfectly for me. A quick on the Linux Printing website would be of assistance. Try: www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/SuggestedPrinters Heracles gav wrote: Hello all, Can anyone recommend a cheap printer ( mainly for b/w page printouts ) to use with Ubuntu Feisty +. Also recommendations for a cheapish mp3 player that does ogg ( thinking ogg playback is superior to mp3 ) ? Thanks, Gav -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG8x7GybPcBAs9CE8RAlVRAKCqkU7tH608NiTSAtudZK6kIN4YUgCfcr0A swBLiDwl2UJtYIToHrGmVMw= =/7QY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Printer
This one time, at band camp, gav wrote: Can anyone recommend a cheap printer ( mainly for b/w page printouts ) to use with Ubuntu Feisty +. You can have a cheap printer or cheap ink, rarely both. I'd go for the cheap ink, expensive printer if I were you! I've had great success buying used HP laser printers with JetDirect cards from eBay. This means you just plug them into the network and they Just Worktm. Being lasers, they're incredibly cheap to run, unlike inkjets with their $60 for 3ml ink cartridges. The one I've got right now has a duplexer and cost me $50! Otherwise, try: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/SuggestedPrinters -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Geeks need vacations too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] undocumented null cipher for ssh?
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 14:21 +1000, Scott Ragen wrote: There are patches to enable cipher none in openssh if its really needed. This and the extended window patch are popular with people who want to do authenticated fast file transfers of data they don't regard as private. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Seeking AU suppliers of laptops with GNU/Linux preinstalled
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is providing these to the market could they point me to their web site or marketing details please. Try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/UbuntuFriendlyNotebooks -- Don't try to be like Jackie. There is only one Jackie. Study computers instead. - Jackie Chan pgppp39LzEvxn.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Change of Email Address
* On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:17:17AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** This is an automatically generated email - my apologies ** if you receive it in error or more than once. Sorry everyone, by bad. Teach me not to multitask... -- Sonia Hamilton | GNU/Linux - 'free' as in .| free speech, not free beer. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SCO delisted from NASDAQ
James Dumay wrote: It has not been delisted yet and the decision is subject to appeal. So they have not been delisted from NASDAQ - apparently there is a certain amount of time between filing chapter 11 and NASAQ delisting your company - and this reporter is just passing this fact off as news. So there's still time to rush out and buy me a whole stack of SCO shares! Yay! -- Del Babel Com Australia http://www.babel.com.au/ ph: 02 9368 0728 fax: 02 9368 0758 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SCO delisted from NASDAQ
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 12:36 +1000, Del wrote: James Dumay wrote: It has not been delisted yet and the decision is subject to appeal. So they have not been delisted from NASDAQ - apparently there is a certain amount of time between filing chapter 11 and NASAQ delisting your company - and this reporter is just passing this fact off as news. So there's still time to rush out and buy me a whole stack of SCO shares! Yay! I was thinking about putting a pool together to buy UNIX from them. I'm in for $20. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] xmms won't play for non-root]]
Crikey, that's a dramatic solution! strace is certainly available for FC7: yum install strace Did you mention it was on Fedora before? If I'd noticed I would have suggested you check the selinux log. selinux failures also put up a warning on the gui (you might need particular rpms installed) Matt On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 06:12:44AM +0800, Kevin Shackleton wrote: I've dodged it all and installed Etch. strace wasn't in my FC7 but it is in Etch. strace'ing on xmms in FC7 resulted in a steady stream of data - 2 or 3 lines a second - it would have to be carefully grepped to see anything useful. Etch doesn't install xmms by default but Rythymbox works (it didn't in FC) Cheers, Kevin. Forwarded Message From: Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Slug slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] xmms won't play for non-root] Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:00:46 + On 20/09/2007, Kevin Shackleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Creating an audio group, assigning /dev/dsp to the audio group and adding myself to the audio group made no difference. It seems that I've applied a solution without knowing what the problem was. Any clues as to how to identify the problem? strace xmms... and look for failed system calls, probably involving files under /dev. read strace(1), there are many ways to make its output more readable and useful. --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SCO delisted from NASDAQ
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 12:43 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote: So there's still time to rush out and buy me a whole stack of SCO shares! Yay! I was thinking about putting a pool together to buy UNIX from them. I'm in for $20. Then you've got a problem, because the heart of SCO's current legal and business issues is that Novell was found by the court to be the owner of UNIX. If you buy a SCO share now, then it's for the share certificate to frame for posterity. Otherwise you are simply making a donation to SCO's creditors -- some of whom are responsible for the SCO ugliness in the first place. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Seeking AU suppliers of laptops with GNU/Linux preinstalled
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 12:01 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/UbuntuFriendlyNotebooks Also HP and Lenovo have announced pre-installed Linux retail sales in Australia. Not sure if the reality has caught up with the announcement. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Printer
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 10:58 +1000, gav wrote: Hello all, Can anyone recommend a cheap printer ( mainly for b/w page printouts ) to use with Ubuntu Feisty +. There are a lot of personal laser printers out there, the BW models of those are cheap to run and cheap to buy. You are looking at about $100 to $200. Toner is about $90 -- I use one a year in a household with three people printing uni and school assignments. Beware that some printers come with a half-full toner and no USB cable. Linux compatibility is best solved by taking your laptop in and testing. If it works out of the box with your distro then good. If it doesn't then avoid a world of pain and select another printer. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Printer
Hi Gav, The brother HL-2040 is quite cheap. Actually cheaper than the consumables. Is great for b/w printing. Is a basic laser printer.Some places are selling it for $99. A new drum costs $129 Drivers available: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html Regards Rodger gav wrote: Hello all, Can anyone recommend a cheap printer ( mainly for b/w page printouts ) to use with Ubuntu Feisty +. Also recommendations for a cheapish mp3 player that does ogg ( thinking ogg playback is superior to mp3 ) ? Thanks, Gav -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Printer
Glen Turner wrote: There are a lot of personal laser printers out there, the BW models of those are cheap to run and cheap to buy. You are looking at about $100 to $200. Toner is about $90 -- I use one a year in a household with three people printing uni and school assignments. Beware that some printers come with a half-full toner and no USB cable. You know, in the days of parallel printers it always used to seem really silly to me that printers never came with interface cables, and they claimed it was because there were different types of parallel interfaces, even well after DB25 parallel connectors became fully standardized. I can't believe they're still pulling this ruse when EVERY computer in the last 4-5 (6-8?) years has USB. --Jeremy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Ogg Players Re: [SLUG] Printer
gav wrote: snip Also recommendations for a cheapish mp3 player that does ogg ( thinking ogg playback is superior to mp3 ) ? snip There are a few audio formats - I am not an audiophile but, I think there are FLACphiles. More about Ogg http://wiki.xiph.org/Ogg List of Ogg/Vorbis players http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/VorbisHardware M -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
