[SLUG] You can find more information by searching on these sessions in the JavaOne conference sessions page.

2007-12-17 Thread Floy Couch

Other Enhancements Under Consideration Some of the other things under 
consideration by the Expert Group  include the following: Access to the 
unfetched state of detached entities.
Solaris has a different kernel and a different implementation of the system 
libraries, but it implements most of the same interfaces as Linux. The Fine 
Print Most of these features are still very much in development, and they are 
thus apt to change scope or be removed from the release if the team's goals for 
them are not reachable. For example, most developers work  within a single 
domain and machine, and they would choose the developer  profile to improve 
performance and expend the least administrative  effort. Another limitation is 
that Java Persistence Query Language queries are always polymorphic.
Installer Improvements The installation process for a new JRE should be simpler 
and more user-friendly. This is not to shrug off a difficult problem but to 
indicate that the Java platform is facing some basic physical constraints at 
the OS and hardware level that the team must work within. Could they be better?
The platform cannot magically preload the pages just prior to launching.
A standard message format ensures that all components  understand one another. 
The reason that warm start is so much faster is that once some data has been 
read off the disk, the OS places it in the disk cache.
us, Yahoo UI Widgets, Spry, DHTML Goodies, and Google.
Java Persistence has had a great start, with strong acceptance by the Java 
community. Swing applications both simple and complex should benefit from much 
better runtime performance on Windows as a result. In the GlassFish server, 
WSIT is used to provide advanced web  services features such as bootstrapping, 
optimizing communication,  reliable messaging, atomic transactions, security, 
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This feature should finally be enabled by default, exposing Swing to extremely 
fast hardware acceleration through the graphics processor.
Solaris has a different kernel and a different implementation of the system 
libraries, but it implements most of the same interfaces as Linux. The main 
goal of Project GlassFish has been to produce an application  server that 
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Graphics performance on Microsoft Windows.
It's pushing Rails further than it's ever gone before, he explained.
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[SLUG] Final Reminder: Open Source Software Adoption:Anatomy of Success and Failure

2007-12-17 Thread Mark Phillips

Final  reminder for the IEEE Computer Societies seminar on Wednesday
19th December, tomorrow at the Australian Technology Park.

Professor Brian Fitzgerald on

Open Source Software Adoption: Anatomy of Success and Failure

RSVP: Friday December 14th 2007 to
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[SLUG] USB to serial

2007-12-17 Thread Alan L Tyree
Is there anything that I need to look for in these USB to serial
converters? Any special software needed?

Thanks,
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Re: [SLUG] USB to serial

2007-12-17 Thread DaZZa
On Dec 18, 2007 12:59 PM, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there anything that I need to look for in these USB to serial
 converters? Any special software needed?

Be careful which one you buy. Some of the cheaper ones simply don't work.

I have one from Lindy, and it's never let me down. Cost a bit more,
but well worth it.

WindoZe did need drivers for it, from memory, but they were a once
only install - don't recall if Linux did, but I don't think so.

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Re: [SLUG] USB to serial

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Barry
$quoted_author = DaZZa ;
 
 On Dec 18, 2007 12:59 PM, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is there anything that I need to look for in these USB to serial
  converters? Any special software needed?
 
 Be careful which one you buy. Some of the cheaper ones simply don't work.
 
 I have one from Lindy, and it's never let me down. Cost a bit more,
 but well worth it.

I can recommend the Belkin one. Detected automatically in Ubuntu. YMMV

cheers
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Re: [SLUG] USB to serial

2007-12-17 Thread Simon Wong
I would recommend the Keyspan USA-19HS.



On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 13:33 +1100, Martin Barry wrote:
 $quoted_author = DaZZa ;
  
  On Dec 18, 2007 12:59 PM, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Is there anything that I need to look for in these USB to serial
   converters? Any special software needed?
  
  Be careful which one you buy. Some of the cheaper ones simply don't work.
  
  I have one from Lindy, and it's never let me down. Cost a bit more,
  but well worth it.
 
 I can recommend the Belkin one. Detected automatically in Ubuntu. YMMV
 
 cheers
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Re: [SLUG] USB to serial

2007-12-17 Thread Dean Hamstead
i bought one from dick smiths (whilst in new zealand), just happened to be
on special so i thought it might come in handy. it really has! 

the linux kernel has a stable driver that picks it up automagically in
debian. windows XP doesnt know what it is until you install a driver then
it works fine. 

if you look in the linux-usb (or is it usb-linux) website, there is
considerable discussion on usb to serial. they will come up as
/dev/ttyUSB(X) devices. 

from what i have read and from my own experiences with it, use software
flow control (or none) not hardware. hardware flow control tends to end
badly. 

but yeah, for anyone who is poking with switches and routers a lot a usb
serial device is really handy. especially given its (mine at least) very
long cable - making up for the lack of length with many supplied serial
leads. you can also extend it with one of those usb cables you get with
every usb stick. 

Dean

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:59:00 +1100, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Thanks,
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[SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
Hi all,

Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this task? :-)

  sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m

Tuesday afternoon shell optimisation party!

Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Barry
$quoted_author = Jeff Waugh ;
 
 Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this task? :-)

the first question was what is the task trying to achieve? :)

 
   sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m

you appear to be counting the number of fields in a csv file but unless
there is a trailing comma each line worth of data will be 'off by 1'

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Martin Barry

 $quoted_author = Jeff Waugh ;
  
  Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this task?
  :-)
 
 the first question was what is the task trying to achieve? :)

That's part of the challenge.

sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
 
 you appear to be counting the number of fields in a csv file but unless
 there is a trailing comma each line worth of data will be 'off by 1'

Ah, an interesting thought, but no, it's more of a blunt instrument than
that. ;-)

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Visser
 perl -e 'while(){$a+=s/[,]//g};print $a\n' input.txt

Do I win??

On Dec 18, 2007 4:09 PM, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this task? :-)

   sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m

 Tuesday afternoon shell optimisation party!

 Thanks,

 - Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Scott Ragen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/12/2007 04:09:15 PM:

 Hi all,
 
 Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this task? 
:-)
 
   sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
 

Not the most graceful, but the following seems to work:
grep -o ',' input.txt |wc -l

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 18/12/07 16:32:03, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 That's part of the challenge.
 
   sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m

Something like the following might be close:

awk 'BEGIN{FS=,}{$0~,$:i=i+NF?i=i+NF-1}END{print(i)}' input.txt

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Lindsay Holmwood
On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  perl -e 'while(){$a+=s/[,]//g};print $a\n' input.txt

 Do I win??

No. Ironically, your solution is 3 characters longer. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Martin Visser

  perl -e 'while(){$a+=s/[,]//g};print $a\n' input.txt
 
 Do I win??

Oddly, perl very rarely wins these. ;-)

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread James Gray


On 18/12/2007, at 4:42 PM, Scott Ragen wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/12/2007 04:09:15 PM:


Hi all,

Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this  
task?

:-)


 sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m



Not the most graceful, but the following seems to work:
   grep -o ',' input.txt |wc -l


Assuming we're using GNU grep we can leave the pipe off:
grep -c -o ',' input.txt

The '-c' will count the number of matching lines thus negating the  
need for |wc -l.  Similar to the whole 'cat file | grep' argument.


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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Scott Ragen

 grep -o ',' input.txt |wc -l

Oh nice, grep -o! Clever! :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Robert Thorsby

sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
 
 Something like the following might be close:
 
 awk 'BEGIN{FS=,}{$0~,$:i=i+NF?i=i+NF-1}END{print(i)}' input.txt

Close in what sense, the syntax error, the length, or the output? ;-)

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 18/12/07 16:45:18, Robert Thorsby wrote:
 Something like the following might be close:
 
 awk 'BEGIN{FS=,}{$0~,$:i=i+NF?i=i+NF-1}END{print(i)}' input.txt

Oops, I transposed the : and the ? in the conditional. Just shows 
what you can do when fingers outpace brain.

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=James Gray

 Not the most graceful, but the following seems to work:
grep -o ',' input.txt |wc -l

 Assuming we're using GNU grep we can leave the pipe off:
 grep -c -o ',' input.txt

Hmm, unfortunately the -c misinterprets the count due to a weird interaction
between -c and -o. I wonder if this should be regarded as a bug in GNU grep?

$ grep -o ',' input.txt | wc -l
19

$ grep -c -o ',' input.txt 
10

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Lindsay Holmwood
On Dec 18, 2007 4:53 PM, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 quote who=James Gray

  Not the most graceful, but the following seems to work:
 grep -o ',' input.txt |wc -l
 
  Assuming we're using GNU grep we can leave the pipe off:
  grep -c -o ',' input.txt

 Hmm, unfortunately the -c misinterprets the count due to a weird interaction
 between -c and -o. I wonder if this should be regarded as a bug in GNU grep?


Not a bug at all! grep -c only counts the number of matching lines,
not the number of occurances of a pattern in a line.

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 18/12/07 16:50:17, Jeff Waugh wrote:
  Something like the following might be close:
  awk 'BEGIN{FS=,}{$0~,$:i=i+NF?i=i+NF-1}END{print(i)}' input.txt
 
 Close in what sense, the syntax error, the length, or the output? ;-)
 
 - Jeff

Syntax error granted -- just keeping you on your toes :-) But, at 
least, it only uses one process (what ain't perl).

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Lindsay Holmwood

 Not a bug at all! grep -c only counts the number of matching lines, not
 the number of occurances of a pattern in a line.

But when you stick -o in there... Hrrrmmm... I even switched their position
on the command line to see if that changed the output. Total cargo cult and
voodoo, but anyway. ;-)

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RE: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Roger Barnes
 Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform 
 this task? :-)
 
   sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m

For starters, remount the partition containing input.txt with the
noatime option and disable trackerd. :)

Then, change the '*' to a '\+' in your regex.  This saved about 30% CPU
time on a 2Mb sample.

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Peter Hardy
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 16:09 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform this task? :-)
 
   sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
 
 Tuesday afternoon shell optimisation party!

How do you want it optimised?

grep -o is the most readable. But the fastest I've found so far is

cat input.txt | tr -d '\n' | tr ',' '\n' | wc -l

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Lindsay Holmwood
On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  perl -e 'while(){$a+=s/[,]//g};print $a\n' input.txt


Ruby version:

ruby -e p IO.read('input.txt').count(',')

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Scott Ragen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/12/2007 05:21:35 PM:

 On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 16:09 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
  Here's a starting point. What's a more optimal way to perform 
thistask? :-)
  
sed 's#[^,]*##g' input.txt | tr -d '\n' | wc -m
  
  Tuesday afternoon shell optimisation party!
 
 How do you want it optimised?
 
 grep -o is the most readable. But the fastest I've found so far is
 
 cat input.txt | tr -d '\n' | tr ',' '\n' | wc -l
 

This seems to work too:
cat input.txt |tr -dC ',' |wc -c

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Peter Hardy
On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 17:05 +1100, Lindsay Holmwood wrote:
 On Dec 18, 2007 4:35 PM, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   perl -e 'while(){$a+=s/[,]//g};print $a\n' input.txt
 
 
 Ruby version:

I've got a sixpack of beer for a working PostScript variant. :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Peter Hardy

 How do you want it optimised?

It doesn't matter either way -- almost all claims in these threads are
educational in some form or another! :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 18/12/07 17:33:25, Scott Ragen wrote:
 This seems to work too:
 cat input.txt |tr -dC ',' |wc -c

Use redirection to eliminate cat
tr -dC ','  input.txt | wc -c

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Re: [SLUG] Tuesday afternoon shell command optimisation party!

2007-12-17 Thread Peter Chubb

tr -dc ',' input.txt | wc -c

will count the number of commas in the input file.

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