Re: [SLUG] Debian question

2008-04-09 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:51:48PM +1000, DaZZa wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Jaime Tarrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  >  2 & 3) Another script that might be useful to automatically install
> >  > proprietary ATI video drivers is here:
> >  >  http://techpatterns.com/forums/about933.html
> >  >  I have used it successfully on Debian machines with NVidia and ATI cards
> >  > running Lenny or Unstable branches, although I haven't tested it with 
> > Etch.
> >  > Still, if you have had no luck so far maybe it is worth a shot.
> >  >  TIP: You can only run the script from the console however (not from 
> > within
> >  > X).
> >
> >  Another possible option which I used when I felt particularly lazy or
> >  out of time to do it "properly" is to boot a live Ubuntu disk on the
> >  machine and copy the X config file from it to merge with the Debian
> >  one.
> 
> Not an option on these boxes.
> 
> No floppy disk. No CD. Solid-state HD.
> 
> Suggestions have been received and are being looked into. As far as I
> know, we've updates the distribution with the latest patches using
> apt-get distro upgrade without success (once we removed the poxy HP
> repository from the sources list and actually GOT some upgrades), and
> are now trying to find/apply the latest ATI drivers to the video card.
> 
> Damn thing is still refusing to do widescreen modes. :-( Won't even do
> 1600x1050 now.
something I noticed on my deb leny (amd64) box is that when the monitor
was off whilst rebooting X defaulted to 800x600 (couldn't get eddid info
) , this was for an nvidia, but the ati might do the same thing

> 
> Thanks to all for suggestions.
> 
> DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Debian question

2008-04-09 Thread DaZZa
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Jaime Tarrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  2 & 3) Another script that might be useful to automatically install
>  > proprietary ATI video drivers is here:
>  >  http://techpatterns.com/forums/about933.html
>  >  I have used it successfully on Debian machines with NVidia and ATI cards
>  > running Lenny or Unstable branches, although I haven't tested it with Etch.
>  > Still, if you have had no luck so far maybe it is worth a shot.
>  >  TIP: You can only run the script from the console however (not from within
>  > X).
>
>  Another possible option which I used when I felt particularly lazy or
>  out of time to do it "properly" is to boot a live Ubuntu disk on the
>  machine and copy the X config file from it to merge with the Debian
>  one.

Not an option on these boxes.

No floppy disk. No CD. Solid-state HD.

Suggestions have been received and are being looked into. As far as I
know, we've updates the distribution with the latest patches using
apt-get distro upgrade without success (once we removed the poxy HP
repository from the sources list and actually GOT some upgrades), and
are now trying to find/apply the latest ATI drivers to the video card.

Damn thing is still refusing to do widescreen modes. :-( Won't even do
1600x1050 now.

Thanks to all for suggestions.

DaZZa
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Re: [SLUG] Debian question

2008-04-09 Thread Amos Shapira
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Jaime Tarrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  2 & 3) Another script that might be useful to automatically install
> proprietary ATI video drivers is here:
>
>  http://techpatterns.com/forums/about933.html
>
>  I have used it successfully on Debian machines with NVidia and ATI cards
> running Lenny or Unstable branches, although I haven't tested it with Etch.
> Still, if you have had no luck so far maybe it is worth a shot.
>
>  TIP: You can only run the script from the console however (not from within
> X).

Another possible option which I used when I felt particularly lazy or
out of time to do it "properly" is to boot a live Ubuntu disk on the
machine and copy the X config file from it to merge with the Debian
one.

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Re: [SLUG] Debian question

2008-04-09 Thread Jaime Tarrant

DaZZa wrote:

No, I'm not being converted (shaddup David!)

I've been, erm, "asked" to work on a little embedded box that $POE is
trialling for a POS graphical display terminal.

Said device runs Debian - and has issues with running a graphics mode
higher than 1024x768.

Naturally, $POE want it at 1280x720 (widescreen 16:9 ratio)

It's running a bastardised/modified Debian Etch, as far as I can tell.

Now, for all you Debian lovers out there.

1) Is Etch recent, or behind the times? The box is from HP - model
available if required. it runs an ATI embedded card - shared video
graphics RAM with the motherboard, I believe
2) Is this mode even valid?
3) Anyone know the magic to get this working?

TIA.

DaZZa



1) Etch focuses on stability and security - thus its a modern system, 
but not necessarily bleeding edge (where most bugs and security 
vulnerabilities are). Etch is an excellent choice for requirements 
demanding a stable, secure and well performing system.


2 & 3) Another script that might be useful to automatically install 
proprietary ATI video drivers is here:


http://techpatterns.com/forums/about933.html

I have used it successfully on Debian machines with NVidia and ATI cards 
running Lenny or Unstable branches, although I haven't tested it with 
Etch. Still, if you have had no luck so far maybe it is worth a shot.


TIP: You can only run the script from the console however (not from 
within X).


HTH
Jaime
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[SLUG] Looking for speakers

2008-04-09 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Hello SLUGgers!

We are in need of speaking talent for our SLUG meetings. Our next meeting is 
on May 2 (announcement below), but we don't yet have anyone to present. If 
you have something that you'd like to talk about, let us know.

This goes for any meeting, not just for the next one. You can generally assume 
that our meetings are on the last Friday of each month (barring December).

For more information on speaking at SLUG, please see these resources:
* http://www.slug.org.au/cfp.html
* http://www.slug.org.au/meetings/guide.html


Thanks!
Sridhar


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Subject: SLUG Monthly Meeting, Friday 2 May
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:30
From: Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: SLUG Announcements <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Our last announcement contained an error in the subject line. Please accept 
our apologies.


== April SLUG Monthly Meeting ==

You can read the full version of this announcement on the Web at 
http://www.slug.org.au/node/97


When:
   18.30 - 20.30, Friday, 2 May, 2008

NOTE: Due to a clash with ANZAC Day, the April SLUG meeting has been deferred 
by one week to 2 May. The official May meeting will not be affected.

We start at 18:30 but we ask that people arrive 15 minutes early so we can all 
get into the building and start on time. Please do not arrive before 18:00, 
as it may hinder business activities for our host!

Appropriate signage and directions will be posted on the building.


Where:
   Atlassian[0], 173-185 Sussex Street, Sydney
   (corner of Sussex and Market Street)

Entry is via the rear on Slip Street. There are stairs going down along the 
outside of building from Sussex St to near the entrance. A map of the area 
and directions can be found here[1].


= Talks =

General Talk: TBA
In-Depth Talk: TBA

We will release another announcement after we confirm our speakers.


= Meeting Schedule =

See here[2] for an explanation of the segments.

* 18:15 : Open Doors
* 18:30 : Announcements, News, Introductions
* 18:45 : General Talk (see above)
* 19:30 : Intermission
* 19:45 : Split into two groups for
* In-depth Talk (see above)
* SLUGlets: Linux Q&A and other miscellany
* 20:30 : Dinner

Dinner is at Golden Harbour Restaurant, in Chinatown. We will be having the 
$24 Banquet[3], but we will be collecting $25 per head for ease of accounting 
and to cover a tip. We will be taking numbers during the break to confirm the 
reservation size. If you have any particular dietary requirements (e.g. 
vegetarian), or if you would prefer to order separately, let us know 
beforehand. Dinner is a great way to socialise and learn in a relaxed 
atmosphere :)

We hope to see you there!


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[2] http://www.slug.org.au/meetings/meetingformat
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