Re: [SLUG] allowing controlled access from dynamic IP

2008-06-12 Thread Michael Chesterton


On 12/06/2008, at 7:11 AM, Voytek Eymont wrote:


but, 'http://localhost:' opens the 'real' host's default 'this is
apache' page, (and, '/cacti/' won't work from there); howe can I  
get to

vhost page where '/cacti/' is setup ?

I've tried using real.host: and v.host: so far with no siccess



There's a few ways, already mentioned, edit /etc/hosts. or use  
iptables to
redirect cacti.host port 80 to localhost port , but i think the  
best option

is to edit apache to put cacti on the hosts default apache.

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[SLUG] Re:LaCie 2TB 2Big Dual + debian (LaCie SATA II PCI-Express eSATA cards)

2008-06-12 Thread bill
I had an ESata card with cables ( bought in Japan) that let me attach a 
caseless SATA hd directly to the PC. Worked fine under Kubuntu 6.06 
until the mobo went up in smoke.


On another note, I'm currently running Kubuntu Hardy and cant get it to 
recognise HDs correctly when I have both IDE and SATA hds attached, so 
check that your hardware doesnt have similar problems. Another problem 
that has arisen  ( on another PC but identical mobo ) is an Error 15 
after clean install - from info on Forums, this may be due to same 
problem and install placing MBR on wrong HD


I posted re the IDE/SATA problem within the last couple of weeks.

Bill







Subject:
[SLUG] LaCie 2TB 2Big Dual + debian (LaCie SATA II PCI-Express eSATA 
cards)

From:
Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:44:02 +1000
To:
Slug 

To:
Slug 


Hi

I am looking at expanding my disk space on my box. I have turned my eye
to these little external boxes.

I was wondering has any one else on the list used one of these.

I was hoping to connect to it with esata (the reason for the lacie esata
controller). A quick google brings me lots of adds to sell but no into
on the controller and how I will see the drives.

My initial thought is to have them in hardware raid1 ( I am going to
raid them any way no need to flood the bus with twice the amount of
traffic).  If i use raid1 and esata will linux only see one drive  and
how do I tell if there is an error with the drive ?

Thanks





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[SLUG] Article on Linux journaling file systems

2008-06-12 Thread Graham Smith
This article on journaling file systems maybe of interest.

Anatomy of Linux journaling file systems
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-journaling-filesystems/index.html
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Re: [SLUG] LaCie 2TB 2Big Dual + debian (LaCie SATA II PCI-Express eSATA cards)

2008-06-12 Thread david
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 08:44 +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am looking at expanding my disk space on my box. I have turned my eye
> to these little external boxes.
> 
> I was wondering has any one else on the list used one of these.
> 
> I was hoping to connect to it with esata (the reason for the lacie esata
> controller). A quick google brings me lots of adds to sell but no into
> on the controller and how I will see the drives.
> 
> My initial thought is to have them in hardware raid1 ( I am going to
> raid them any way no need to flood the bus with twice the amount of
> traffic).  If i use raid1 and esata will linux only see one drive  and
> how do I tell if there is an error with the drive ?

don't know about this particular unit, but my experience of external
drives generally has been appalling to the point that I've given up.

Every external firewire/usb drive i've used has ended up giving me hard
drive failure, and in some cases heart failure. Other people whose
opinion I respect have come to the same conclusion. I get the impression
that the problem has to do with power supply on the external device, but
I haven't figured that out for certain.

I haven't used Lacies. Are they better?

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[SLUG] CFP: Foundations of Open Media Software Workshop 2009

2008-06-12 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Call for Participation


Foundations of Open Media Software (FOMS)
Developer Workshop
Thursday 15 - Friday 16 January 2009
Hobart (Tasmania), Australia
http://www.annodex.org/events/foms2009/

Important Dates:

 Submissions open: 11th June 2008
 Submissions close: 15th August 2008
 Notification: 30th September  2008


What is FOMS:

Foundations of Open Media Software (FOMS) is a developer workshop to
widen cooperation and interoperability among open source media
projects. Meet and discuss your plans for the next 12 months and forge
relationships with other developers to unwind the kinks, making open
media kick ever more ass.

This is a call for participation in the third FOMS meeting, which will
be held in Hobart, Australia over two days in January leading up to
linux.conf.au 2009.

The FOMS meeting is organised by developers for developers.

FOMS caters for developers with topics of interest in and related to:

  * open audio & video codecs
  * open audio & media frameworks
  * audio infrastructure
  * web video (HTML5 audio/video) and crossover with open source
  * mobile video
  * open audio & video applications
  * open metadata
  * open media standards

The proximity to linux.conf.au allows us also to discuss audio- and
video-related issues with the developers of Open Source kernel,
networking and desktop systems.


How to attend / submit:

FOMS attendees will be developers of open media software from the
community as well as professional delegates from companies with a
background and interest in this space. The attendance fee for
professional delegates is A$420 - community participation is free.
Attendees are expected to have a background in open media software.

If you would like to attend, please contact
foms-committee(at)lists.annodex.net and tell us why you should be
there. Also mention if you require travel assistance.


Coincident Conferences:

Since FOMS2009 is happening the week before linux.conf.au, in the same
city, you may want to consider submitting a proposal for that
conference as well.


Travel Funding:

FOMS highly values it's developer attendees. FOMS has provided a
limited number of sponsorships for travel funding for the best
developers since it's beginning. Further travel sponsorship can be
achieved by being an accepted speaker to linux.conf.au. The Linux
Foundation also has travel sponsorships to important events like FOMS
and LCA.
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[SLUG] LaCie 2TB 2Big Dual + debian (LaCie SATA II PCI-Express eSATA cards)

2008-06-12 Thread Alex Samad
Hi

I am looking at expanding my disk space on my box. I have turned my eye
to these little external boxes.

I was wondering has any one else on the list used one of these.

I was hoping to connect to it with esata (the reason for the lacie esata
controller). A quick google brings me lots of adds to sell but no into
on the controller and how I will see the drives.

My initial thought is to have them in hardware raid1 ( I am going to
raid them any way no need to flood the bus with twice the amount of
traffic).  If i use raid1 and esata will linux only see one drive  and
how do I tell if there is an error with the drive ?

Thanks


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jump out of the foxholes before the first shot is fired."

- George W. Bush
09/08/2000
Westland, MI


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Re: [SLUG] : Increasing filesystem reliability (was : Filesystem which allows online fsck?)

2008-06-12 Thread Glen Turner

James Gray wrote:



mount ext3 with options:
 journal=data,barrier=1,noatime,user_xattr



Do you actually mean "data=journal"?


Yes I do, my apologies.
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[SLUG] Re: composite multiple images command in imagemagick

2008-06-12 Thread elliott-brennan

I just hope any beers don't come back out of Amos!

;))

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well that's the spirit...

Quoting elliott-brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


All Hail Amos :))

Looks like I owe you at least *a* beer! (note inference of more than
singular :))



Nice to hear that something good came out of the whole thing..

David




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[SLUG] Re: composite multiple images command in imagemagick

2008-06-12 Thread david . lyon


Well that's the spirit...

Quoting elliott-brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


All Hail Amos :))

Looks like I owe you at least *a* beer! (note inference of more than
singular :))



Nice to hear that something good came out of the whole thing..

David

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[SLUG] Re: composite multiple images command in imagemagick

2008-06-12 Thread elliott-brennan

David wrote:

> Elliott,
>
> What you are after is actually a programmer... 
who can write that sort

> of thing..

Well then

All Hail Amos :))

Looks like I owe you at least *a* beer! (note 
inference of more than singular :))


AND

Jeff's not wrong... I struggle with the thing, but 
it can be very handy.


Now I'm getting a few commands together, I can 
string bits together (I'm a copier, rather than a 
hacker) and create some quite nice effects outside 
of those available in the GUI-oriented editors.


Thanks again, Amos, mate, chum, pal, cobber :))

Regards,

Patrick


Re: [SLUG] composite multiple images command in imagemagick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:13:15 -0400
slug@slug.org.au

Elliott,

What you are after is actually a programmer... who can write that sort 
of thing..


Usually there are two ways - pay with beer or cheques or other sort of 
favours... :-)


I can't see any way past it...

you are in industrial-land... plenty of people out there who might want 
to help you...





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Re: [SLUG] composite multiple images command in imagemagick

2008-06-12 Thread Rick Welykochy

Daniel Pittman wrote:


That said, don't discount the risk that a programmer might wander in
here as well. :)


You're talking (?) to one. I enjoy the SLUG list since I have
programmed some largish systems on Linux for the enterprise
and when I'm at the coal face I need sys admin skills, as
rudimentary as they are.

SLUG is a great resource for all, not just sys admins. Witness
the requests we get from overseas for help!

It would be interesting to see a breakdown of SLUG membership
by area of IT expertise. My guess is 70% admins and 30% the rest.
There are a lot of Linux users on here, no?

cheers
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Re: [SLUG] composite multiple images command in imagemagick

2008-06-12 Thread Daniel Pittman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Quoting Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> I've always pondered where to draw the line between sys admin and
>> programmer /analyst.
>
> Well there's definitely a difference... but there are true sys-admins,
> true programmers and some who seem to be able to do both.

Like anything in our nice, immature, industry it is going to be hard for
a long while yet.  

>> Which raises the question: does it require a programmer to handle and
>> correctly execute complex command-line programs like convert, etc.
>> as found in Imagemagick?
>
> Definitely not. But it is painful for me seeing days of list debate
> for something that could be fixed (by a programmer) in an hour at the
> cost of a six-pack of german beer. :-)

You clearly know less expensive programmers than most, or you drink the
most expensive beer /I/ have ever heard of. ;)

That said, don't discount the risk that a programmer might wander in
here as well. :)

Regards,
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Digital Music and video editing

2008-06-12 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
David Andresen wrote:

> As a financial member of slug and a regular attendee at slug meetings Erik is 
> mistaken

What does you (or me, depending on how one parses that sentence) being
a financial member of SLUG have to do with any of this? Financial
membership does not give you the right to spam the list with off
topic posts.

> and I am supprised by the inappropriate and inaccurate response.

Rubbish. In your original message on this issue you had some sort of
loony tunes agenda to push:

 http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2008/06/msg00114.html

The second post, with the same link was a little more subtle, but
after the first, nowhere near subtle enough.

Spammer!

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Re: [SLUG] : Increasing filesystem reliability (was : Filesystem which allows online fsck?)

2008-06-12 Thread Michael Chesterton


On 12/06/2008, at 2:28 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:


Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:


Does anyone know of a Linux filesystem which allows online
fsck on a disk that is currently mounted read/write?


Rather than asking for a filesystem, maybe I should be asking for
better use of the one we're currently using, Ext3.


How about mounting everything yo can read only, then you should be
able to umount read write filesystems and fsck them.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Digital Music and video editing

2008-06-12 Thread David Andresen
Hello list and Erik,

As a financial member of slug and a regular attendee at slug meetings Erik is 
mistaken and I am supprised by the inappropriate and inaccurate response.

David Andresen 

On Thursday 12 June 2008 08:37:01 Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> David Andresen wrote:
> > Which opensource video editing programs would one use to create this
> > music video?
>
> The last time you posted that link to this list you were ignored
> because it was off topic and stupid.
>
> Now you're starting to look like a spammer.
>
> Erik
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Re: [SLUG] : Increasing filesystem reliability (was : Filesystem which allows online fsck?)

2008-06-12 Thread jam
On Thursday 12 June 2008 15:23:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Another option I'm looking into is the possibility of running
> > the sync command at known idle times which follow a activity
> > which results in disk writes.
> >
> >  
>
> that should help.
> how about just not loosing power? Ie, some sort of built-in UPS/battery
> etc? It might be possible to keep the machine alive with a built in battery
> long enough for sync to finish.
> I know its a work around, but this is a pretty tricky problem.

Would not it be better to (1) define the problem (2) define solution(s) (3) 
implement rather than jumping in with both feet and squarabling for a 
solution?

EG I've got video systems recording divers on an oil rig. Power, waves, power, 
power and power are grave issues. I boot RAM fs from RO squashfs image with 
write of video data to flash/disk. This works very well, but is very tailored 
to this specific need.

EG you could easily implement a battery-primary system that would never have a 
power outage and lead-acid batteries are marvelous sinks of noise. There are 
numerous ways to achieve this even normal power supplies that are 12v or 24v 
input. 

etc
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Re: [SLUG] composite multiple images command in imagemagick

2008-06-12 Thread david . lyon

Hi Rick,

Quoting Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I've always pondered where to draw the line between sys admin and
programmer /analyst.


Well there's definitely a difference... but there are true sys-admins,  
true programmers and some who seem to be able to do both.



Which raises the question: does it require a programmer to handle and
correctly execute complex command-line programs like convert, etc.
as found in Imagemagick?


Definitely not. But it is painful for me seeing days of list debate  
for something that could be fixed (by a programmer) in an hour at the  
cost of a six-pack of german beer. :-)




As an aside, my brain begins weeping when I have to do something novel
with iptables (another command-line monster) but I don't consider that
a programming job. I get the impression many Linux admins can configure
iptables in the dark without a keyboard and both hands preoccupied with
beer and pizza.


I'm sure they can... but only if they are running with four monitors  
and 3 keyboards


David

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Re: [SLUG] : Increasing filesystem reliability (was : Filesystem which allows online fsck?)

2008-06-12 Thread James Gray


On 12/06/2008, at 5:00 PM, Glen Turner wrote:


Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:


Does anyone have anything else to suggest?


mount ext3 with options:
 journal=data,barrier=1,noatime,user_xattr

Create the fs with a bigger journal than usual, this will
improve performance with journal=data.


Do you actually mean "data=journal"?  I only see "update" and "inum"  
as valid values (man mount) for the "journal" option.  Maybe I'm  
missing something...it's getting late and I missed lunch so I'm  
running on caffeine!!


Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] : Increasing filesystem reliability (was : Filesystem which allows online fsck?)

2008-06-12 Thread Glen Turner

Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:


Does anyone have anything else to suggest?


mount ext3 with options:
  journal=data,barrier=1,noatime,user_xattr

Create the fs with a bigger journal than usual, this will
improve performance with journal=data.

Our scientists often forgo filesystems entirely if the
application is simple (eg, data collection). For example,
they'll zero the partition at the start. To record an
observation they'll seek to a position based on the time
(or observation number reported by the data hardware)
and sync write the fixed-length observation with a checksum.

Note that Linux's performance with sync-ing is poor on a
multi-use machine (since all buffers are synced, not just
the application's buffers).

Note that barrier=1 won't work with LVM or DM, you need
a real partition.

You might want to consider a distro like OpenWrt which
minimises the amount of incidental disk I/O done by
the distribution and allows a definite split between
a read-only partition and a read-write partition. The
the amount of read-write disk to be recovered will be
smaller (since read-only partitions don't need recovery).
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