Re: [SLUG] LaCie 2TB 2Big Dual + debian (LaCie SATA II PCI-Express eSATA cards)
david wrote: Every external firewire/usb drive i've used has ended up giving me hard drive failure, and in some cases heart failure. Other people whose opinion I respect have come to the same conclusion. I get the impression that the problem has to do with power supply on the external device, but I haven't figured that out for certain. I haven't used Lacies. Are they better? I've been using a LaCie 500 GB external for a few years now without a single hitch on Mac OS X. Firewire connection. I am impressed with LaCia products. Seem pretty solid. Since I am also backing up the files from the LaCie using a LaCie DVD burner, and then verifying all originals and backups using MD5 sums, both the HDD and burner/reader are getting a good workout. Both work flawlessly. Aside: I cannot say the same about the Mac internal superdrive, a MATSHITADVD-R UJ-835F. A google will show why it is crap. Utter crap. That is why the LaCia external DVD burner. cheers rickw -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services || Internet Driving Instructor "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." -- Henry Spencer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Intel Xeon 7350 and x86_64
Has anyone here encountered a problem with the Intel Quad Core Xeon X7350 chips not booting from x86_64 media? I'm trying to install RHEL4.5 on a brand new PowerEdge R900 and the x86_64 media wont boot, however the i386 media will.. I'm sure these are 64bit and the propaganda indicates that at least Suse 64Bit Enterprise 10 should work because Intel published benchmarks using it Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wanted: 64bit support for IBCS/sco binaries
Dave Kempe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Daniel Pittman wrote: >> Not only did RedHat drop the patches from their kernel quite some time >> ago due to stability issues, I can confirm from (my customers) practical >> experience that there are -- at least -- SMP issues with the project. > > yeah I have it running fine on 2.6.18 i think with SMP 32bit. > would prefer 64bit for memory reasons and cos I would prefer to use > OpenVZ (which may complicate things further.) It may. At least you have good taste in "virtual machine" technologies. (By good, in this case, I mean identical to mine. ;) > I fixed the SMP issues one afternoon with a few awesome hackers > (thanks Christian and Matt!) and some effort from someone else in > Melbourne I think. Really? That is impressive. At least y'all know the scope of what you are working with, which was the main point of my warning. Regards, Daniel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wanted: 64bit support for IBCS/sco binaries
Daniel Pittman wrote: Not only did RedHat drop the patches from their kernel quite some time ago due to stability issues, I can confirm from (my customers) practical experience that there are -- at least -- SMP issues with the project. yeah I have it running fine on 2.6.18 i think with SMP 32bit. would prefer 64bit for memory reasons and cos I would prefer to use OpenVZ (which may complicate things further.) I fixed the SMP issues one afternoon with a few awesome hackers (thanks Christian and Matt!) and some effort from someone else in Melbourne I think. I am not so worried about the license issues, I am sure the vendor would appreciate the work too. thanks dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] LaCie 2TB 2Big Dual + debian (LaCie SATA II PCI-Express eSATA cards)
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:51:07PM +1000, Dave Kempe wrote: > david wrote: >> Every external firewire/usb drive i've used has ended up giving me hard >> drive failure, and in some cases heart failure. Other people whose >> opinion I respect have come to the same conclusion. I get the impression >> that the problem has to do with power supply on the external device, but >> I haven't figured that out for certain. >> >> I haven't used Lacies. Are they better? >> >> > Lacies are better. Still fail after about 1 year though on average. > They are cheap enough to just buy more of them and rotate them. I use > backupninja with rdiff-backup and labelmounts to handle the magic. > Backupninja is just a tricky shell script which gives some uniformity to > backup scripts - worth checking out. just had another look at the site and they have a 4 drive external drive, that attached by esata. That looks cool as well, I am presuming it takes normal sata II drives so I expand in the future > > dave > > -- "There's Adam Clymer, major-league asshole from The New York Times." - George W. Bush 09/04/2000 Naperville, IL to Dick Cheney, thinking the mic was off signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wanted: 64bit support for IBCS/sco binaries
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:48:37PM +1000, Dave Kempe wrote: > Hi, > wondering if anyone has any pointers to people/companies/assembler gurus > who can assist me in getting 64bit support for the linux-abi project? > http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-abi/ > > I have a few clients that would like to run sco binaries on 64-bit linux > and may have some funding for such a project. > > Any comments on the difficult of running foreign binaries on 64-bit > linux would be much appreciated - is this a totally crazy idea or just > no one has bothered? any reason to not use qemu ? > > thanks > > Dave > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- When you're married to someone, they take you for granted ... when you're living with someone it's fantastic ... they're so frightened of losing you they've got to keep you satisfied all the time. -- Nell Dunn, "Poor Cow" signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wanted: 64bit support for IBCS/sco binaries
Dave Kempe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > wondering if anyone has any pointers to people/companies/assembler > gurus who can assist me in getting 64bit support for the linux-abi > project? http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-abi/ As a warning, 32-bit SCO binaries are *not* stable or reliable with the current Linux-ABI work. Not only did RedHat drop the patches from their kernel quite some time ago due to stability issues, I can confirm from (my customers) practical experience that there are -- at least -- SMP issues with the project. > I have a few clients that would like to run sco binaries on 64-bit > linux and may have some funding for such a project. You are looking at a potentially sizable body of work, since you would have to include getting the underlying system stable and functional first -- at least for the parts you care about. > Any comments on the difficult of running foreign binaries on 64-bit > linux would be much appreciated - is this a totally crazy idea or just > no one has bothered? Almost no one bothers, but it isn't /that/ hard, really. Your biggest issues are, as always, the proprietary libraries and their licenses, which may make it illegal to run the software in this fashion.[1] Outside that it wasn't terribly difficult back when the iBCS code was part of the kernel[2] and I was called on to get some SCO binaries running on Linux. Regards, Daniel Now I miss WordPerfect all over again, too. It was /so/ much nicer than the modern "improved" GUI junk. Where is show formatting codes when I want it? Footnotes: [1] It is usually, at best, like IE on Linux: not *explicitly* forbidden by the license, but the intention is probably clear that you are not supposed to use core parts of the OS on another platform, and certainly not without paying license fees for it. [2] back in the 2.0 days, when dinosaurs roamed the earth and SCO still had market share. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] LaCie 2TB 2Big Dual + debian (LaCie SATA II PCI-Express eSATA cards)
david wrote: Every external firewire/usb drive i've used has ended up giving me hard drive failure, and in some cases heart failure. Other people whose opinion I respect have come to the same conclusion. I get the impression that the problem has to do with power supply on the external device, but I haven't figured that out for certain. I haven't used Lacies. Are they better? Lacies are better. Still fail after about 1 year though on average. They are cheap enough to just buy more of them and rotate them. I use backupninja with rdiff-backup and labelmounts to handle the magic. Backupninja is just a tricky shell script which gives some uniformity to backup scripts - worth checking out. dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] wanted: 64bit support for IBCS/sco binaries
Hi, wondering if anyone has any pointers to people/companies/assembler gurus who can assist me in getting 64bit support for the linux-abi project? http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-abi/ I have a few clients that would like to run sco binaries on 64-bit linux and may have some funding for such a project. Any comments on the difficult of running foreign binaries on 64-bit linux would be much appreciated - is this a totally crazy idea or just no one has bothered? thanks Dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] LaCie 2TB 2Big Dual + debian (LaCie SATA II PCI-Express eSATA) continued..
I use my eSATA2 combo that my Gigabyte Motherboard GA-MA790FX-DQ6 equips. It is exactly --- note exactly, as per an internal drive because the drive PSU power is derived from the internal box PSU, and the drive support comes from on-board SATA2 controller. However, there are real issues of "possible short circuiting" or "problematic external drives" causing system problems unless your careful and remember that the drive is external (like don't have it dropping off the top of your box whist your doing backups for example). Thus it is excellent/easy to use and change over when required. My udev rules make all drive logical allocations via full drive ID- ing, so the designated mount point and fs type of the drive (as you want it to be) may require you to modify the udev/rules to suit flexibility of different drives. I don't particularly worry about this as the drive ID is mounted the particular mount point. Your milage may vary dependant on the flavour of your distribution and kernel tools. Generally, as I only usually use it for development of embedded systems, and the occasional backup (I change the drive, but I have additional drive ID data in /etc/fstab just for this reason. Hope this assist discussions. Grahame. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] LaCie 2TB 2Big Dual + debian (LaCie SATA II PCI-Express eSATA cards)
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:59:10AM +1000, david wrote: > On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 08:44 +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > Hi > > > > I am looking at expanding my disk space on my box. I have turned my eye > > to these little external boxes. > > > > I was wondering has any one else on the list used one of these. > > > > I was hoping to connect to it with esata (the reason for the lacie esata > > controller). A quick google brings me lots of adds to sell but no into > > on the controller and how I will see the drives. > > > > My initial thought is to have them in hardware raid1 ( I am going to > > raid them any way no need to flood the bus with twice the amount of > > traffic). If i use raid1 and esata will linux only see one drive and > > how do I tell if there is an error with the drive ? > > don't know about this particular unit, but my experience of external > drives generally has been appalling to the point that I've given up. > > Every external firewire/usb drive i've used has ended up giving me hard > drive failure, and in some cases heart failure. Other people whose > opinion I respect have come to the same conclusion. I get the impression > that the problem has to do with power supply on the external device, but > I haven't figured that out for certain. > > I haven't used Lacies. Are they better? i used to use one previously (about 4 years ago), last quite a long time, then I put all the drives into my machine. then I bought larger capacity drives, now I have a sff box and 2 drives and I need more space, so back to external drives (I had thought about building a file server but now looking at external drives) > > -- "The folks who conducted to act on our country on September 11th made a big mistake. They underestimated America. They underestimated our resolve, our determination, our love for freedom. They misunderestimated the fact that we love a neighbor in need." - George W. Bush 09/26/2001 Washington, DC signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
