Re: [SLUG] Overheating
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 14:24 +1100, Mark Walkom wrote: Well the grease is needed as it facilitates a higher efficiency of heat transfer from the chip to the heatsink. Is this a laptop or a desktop PC? What are the CPU and GPU chips? Desktop. The CPU fan has been removed and replaced twice. Under load it jumps from 30 to 40 and with a hot ambient (no aircon at all) climbs to 80 and stops. Right now sitting on 29 and 26. The Nvidia card has a lot of cowling around the fans so I wonder how clogged it will be. Previously I had carpet and was in Campsie which was bad for dust. In summary: - I will try and clean the heatsink on the Nvidia without removing it and no worry too much. - I will clean off grey goo on CPU and replace it with a thermal paste. Thanks Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] IE on Ubunto
I have Ubuntu 9.10 installed and use Firefox for browsing the web. Every so often some one tells me You must look at this but this is coded for IE only. I am not inclined to buy another PC just to look at the occasional web site in IE Is there a simple solution (cheap) to this dilemma? Chris Allen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IE on Ubunto
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Chris Allen ch.al...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I have Ubuntu 9.10 installed and use Firefox for browsing the web. Every so often some one tells me You must look at this but this is coded for IE only. I am not inclined to buy another PC just to look at the occasional web site in IE Is there a simple solution (cheap) to this dilemma? Chris Allen Grab the latest copy of wine from http://www.winehq.org/download/ and follow the instructions at http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=versioniId=4195 -- Harrison Conlin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IE on Ubunto
On 02/02/10 21:13, Chris Allen wrote: Every so often some one tells me You must look at this but this is coded for IE only. I am not inclined to buy another PC just to look at the occasional web site in IE Is there a simple solution (cheap) to this dilemma? You can either dual-boot Windows natively, install Windows in a virtual machine that runs inside Linux, or you can emulate IE in Linux using Wine. To do *any* of those options legally, you must have a valid Windows licence. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Overheating
I disagree - though I don't have hard data to demonstrate :-(. The thermal-conductive paste on middle-aged machines is often very dry. Any time I service a machine (dust blow-out, more RAM etc) I check the CPU paste and usually renew it. You can buy the stuff from electronics places. Beware - the white stuff is supposed to be carcinogenic, keep it off your hands. Use silver stuff by preference. Kevin. On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 14:35 +1100, Jake Anderson wrote: you only need the grease if you have taken the heatsink off. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] fstab and removable drives
Jeremy Visser wrote: On 30/01/10 16:42, David wrote: The second on-board drive now mounts, but as well as mounting at the point indicated, I also get a hard drive icon - in other words the drive is duplicated on the Desktop - once in the folder called 500mb and once in an icon with the label of drive. It's not very tidy. When I start using the removable drives, I will want a second user to be able to log in remotely and use his drives, which he will manually switch as required. I don't want all his drives showing up on my Desktop as icons. Can anyone point me at the correct way to set up fstab? Answering my own question for the archive: The problem went away when I used a non-Desktop mount point, thus: UUID=728e30cd-3074-4cd6-b38f-22d0bf916391 /mnt/PHOTOS ext3 defaults 0 0 instead of: UUID=728e30cd-3074-4cd6-b38f-22d0bf916391 /home/david/Desktop/PHOTOS ext3 defaults 0 0 To get my PHOTOS onto the Desktop I just used a link. Too easy. This problem lies in the interaction between Nautilus and HAL, not in fstab. Nautilus asks HAL to be notified of mounted volumes, and so creates icons for it if it thinks they are special. In gconf-editor, you can disable the option /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible. However, that will also have the effect of not making USB flash drives visible on the desktop (and will not remove them from the side page of Nautilus browser windows). You've reached the extent of my knowledge in this matter. Sorry I don't have a better answer. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: IE on Ubunto
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 10:13:01 Chris Allen wrote: Is there a simple solution (cheap) to this dilemma? http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page -- Richard www.sheflug.org.uk -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: IE on Ubunto
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Richard Ibbotson richard.ibbot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 02 February 2010 10:13:01 Chris Allen wrote: Is there a simple solution (cheap) to this dilemma? http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page Supports IE 5, 5.5 and 6. Last updated 6th Feb 2008. It worked for me last time I needed this, but that would have been some time in 2007 when IE6 was state-of-the-art. -- Richard www.sheflug.org.uk -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: IE on Ubunto
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 10:46:18 James Polley wrote: On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Richard Ibbotson richard.ibbot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 02 February 2010 10:13:01 Chris Allen wrote: Is there a simple solution (cheap) to this dilemma? http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page Supports IE 5, 5.5 and 6. Last updated 6th Feb 2008. It worked for me last time I needed this, but that would have been some time in 2007 when IE6 was state-of-the-art. Yes. I'm afraid I'm biased in the direction of the GNU/Linux desktop. I'm not ignorant of the latest software but can't think why I would want to use grot (winduhs) on my desktop :) I know that the latest version of Internet Exploder is said to be more standards compliant but I can't think of a use for it on my own desktop. I suppose Chris will use whatever he wants to use as do most people. -- Richard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Overheating
Have you noticed a difference when you run or don't run certain programs? I had big overheating problems, which I finally solved by installing Flashblock on Firefox. It was a case of too many tabs plus flash not running well in Linux. Before I discovered Flashblock, I took to stopping whatever applications were using the most CPU% according to my task manager, which was usually Firefox (in the task manager, right click - stop, so I could easily restart again the same way). The temperature would drop very quickly. Chris On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 20:31, Ken Foskey kfos...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 14:24 +1100, Mark Walkom wrote: Well the grease is needed as it facilitates a higher efficiency of heat transfer from the chip to the heatsink. Is this a laptop or a desktop PC? What are the CPU and GPU chips? Desktop. The CPU fan has been removed and replaced twice. Under load it jumps from 30 to 40 and with a hot ambient (no aircon at all) climbs to 80 and stops. Right now sitting on 29 and 26. The Nvidia card has a lot of cowling around the fans so I wonder how clogged it will be. Previously I had carpet and was in Campsie which was bad for dust. In summary: - I will try and clean the heatsink on the Nvidia without removing it and no worry too much. - I will clean off grey goo on CPU and replace it with a thermal paste. Thanks Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. blogs.appropedia.org community.livejournal.com/appropedia identi.ca/appropedia twitter.com/appropedia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] fstab and simultaneous mount points
Scenario: Removable SATA drives in a caddy, used for back up. I have two backup disks - one to be kept on the machine, the other off-site and I cycle them weekly. I've written a script to rsync the system onto the backups. Obviously the two drives have unique UUID's. Does fstab allow for two UUID's having the same mount point thus: UUID=2e7c5578-933a-4b09-a89d-14b6be718fe5 /mnt/BACKUP ext4 defaults 0 0 UUID=b007bc41-0280-48d5-b958-9160092e3d44 /mnt/BACKUP ext4 defaults 0 0 Especially given that this machine has three caddies on board, so it's theoretically possible for me to accidentally mount both backup drives simultaneously! Would I be so silly? it's at least possible. Does anyone know what happens if they both successfully mount? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] shopping carts?
Rodolfo MartÃnez wrote: Hi, Have you tried osCommerce? http://www.oscommerce.com/ Anyone who has looked inside the PHP code for either would have to agree with me in strongly recommending OpenFreeway over osCommerce. The rest of this discussion can be taken off-list if anyone's interested. Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] shopping carts?
Del wrote: Rodolfo MartÃnez wrote: Hi, Have you tried osCommerce? http://www.oscommerce.com/ Anyone who has looked inside the PHP code for either would have to agree with me in strongly recommending OpenFreeway over osCommerce. The rest of this discussion can be taken off-list if anyone's interested. Why take it off list? It doesn't have to be a flame war. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] fstab and simultaneous mount points
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 22:07 +1100, david wrote: Does fstab allow for two UUID's having the same mount point thus: UUID=2e7c5578-933a-4b09-a89d-14b6be718fe5 /mnt/BACKUP ext4 defaults 0 0 UUID=b007bc41-0280-48d5-b958-9160092e3d44 /mnt/BACKUP ext4 defaults 0 0 Yes. Have you tried it yet? :-) Especially given that this machine has three caddies on board, so it's theoretically possible for me to accidentally mount both backup drives simultaneously! Would I be so silly? it's at least possible. Does anyone know what happens if they both successfully mount? Anecdote time! One of the sites I look after runs a large proprietary application server, and the customer's installed SOE uses a /tmp partition far too small for the installation / upgrade process utilised by said application server. The installer also has this wonderful bug wherein it ignores all attempts to define a new temporary file location. My process for applying hotfixes to the app server includes: Create a large empty file under /var/tmp . Create a filesystem in this file. Mount it over the existing /tmp using the loopback driver. Run the upgrade. Unmount the temporary /tmp . Say you have the first filesystem mounted on /mnt/BACKUP , and some processes have open file handles on that first filesystem. Mounting a second filesystem over /mnt/BACKUP will not interrupt those open file handles - all reading and writing using those handles will still use the first filesystem. I *think* that new file handles opened by those old processes will use the second filesystem (including readdir() calls and the like), but I haven't tested this too thoroughly. New processes attempting to read from /mnt/BACKUP will only see the second filesystem mounted there. Listing the mounted filesystems with the mount command will show two filesystems mounted on /mnt/BACKUP . I have no idea what will happen when you just run umount /mnt/BACKUP, and would suggest being more explicit about which filesystem you want to unmount. Bottom line, though, is that you won't break anything by experimenting with this. If you're nervous, make sure you have a backup of the filesystems you're playing with, or create a couple of loopback ones to test with. Also, I can't wait until the end of this month, when those app servers are retired... -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IE on Ubunto
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 18:34:34 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: I have Ubuntu 9.10 installed and use Firefox for browsing the web. Every so often some one tells me You must look at this but this is coded for IE only. I am not inclined to buy another PC just to look at the occasional web site in IE Is there a simple solution (cheap) to this dilemma? Wunz upon a tyme ANZ would accept IE for internet banking and they told me that their app worked with IE only. Fiddling with about:config I had firefox (or whatever it used to be) ID as IE on Winders. And the app worked. When confronted by this ANZ relented and accepted other browsers. So I'm sure that if you spelunk enough about:config will allow you to set your ID and OS James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] RE: IE on Ubuntu 9.10
Install Wine-Doors. Among the programs it will allow you to install is IE -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IE on Ubunto
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 22:17 +0800, james wrote: Wunz upon a tyme ANZ would accept IE for internet banking and they told me that their app worked with IE only. Fiddling with about:config I had firefox (or whatever it used to be) ID as IE on Winders. And the app worked. When confronted by this ANZ relented and accepted other browsers. So I'm sure that if you spelunk enough about:config will allow you to set your ID and OS User Agent Switcher http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] On making a hotkey.
I'm running Karmic Koala on a Fujitsu laptop. Is it possible to make a shortcut key (hotkey?) to speed up repetitive tasks? For example--- Go into external hard drive, open a new file = F3 Feeble example, I know, but I'm backing up the CD collection and anything's a help. I'm told it can't be done. William Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] shopping carts?
http://www.oscommerce.org/ On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 21:53 -0800, Dini wrote: Hi, I'm going to run a shopping cart on my web site. Is there an Open Source Shopping Cart that is idoit friendly and is ok for Au banks? thanks. D Your manuscript is both good and original; but the part that is good is not original and the part that is original is not good - Samuel Johnson. desinQ __ Yahoo!7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legally, and for free at PLUS7. www.tv.yahoo.com.au/plus7 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] no speaker sound
Hi had the same problem ... until last night. Number of things to try first: You could check whether the audio works in the headphone jack You could kill pulseaudio (use ps, then kill) run alsa-mixer and check whether speaker isnt muted yum install pavucontrol (more powerful mixer) Then you could do what a lot of people do ... do it the windows way ;-( remove and install again. This is what I did (I just post the content of the YUM log) Dec 02 05:02:42 Installed: pavucontrol-0.9.10-1.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:19:47 Erased: alsa-plugins-pulseaudio Dec 02 05:19:48 Erased: bluez Dec 02 05:19:49 Erased: alsa-plugins-pulseaudio Dec 02 05:19:49 Erased: pulseaudio-module-x11 Dec 02 05:19:54 Erased: gnome-bluetooth Dec 02 05:20:05 Erased: pulseaudio Dec 02 05:20:06 Erased: pulseaudio-module-bluetooth Dec 02 05:20:07 Erased: kde-settings-pulseaudio Dec 02 05:31:08 Installed: pulseaudio-0.9.21-4.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:31:12 Installed: blueman-1.21-2.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:31:12 Installed: pulseaudio-libs-zeroconf-0.9.21-4.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:31:14 Installed: bluez-4.58-1.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:31:15 Installed: alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.21-2.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:31:15 Installed: pulseaudio-esound-compat-0.9.21-4.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:31:16 Installed: paman-0.9.4-4.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:31:17 Installed: pulseaudio-module-zeroconf-0.9.21-4.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:31:17 Installed: padevchooser-0.9.4-0.10.svn20070925.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:33:41 Installed: gconfmm26-2.28.0-1.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:33:42 Installed: pulseaudio-module-gconf-0.9.21-4.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:33:43 Installed: paprefs-0.9.9-5.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:33:43 Installed: pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.21-4.fc12.x86_64 Dec 02 05:33:44 Installed: pavumeter-0.9.3-4.fc12.x86_64 On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 02:14 +1100, Daryl Thompson wrote: I brought a Compaq Presario CQ61-214TU and install Fedora 12. I have no Speaker Sound, i do have sound when i plug in a head set or external speaker. I have not tested the HDMI output yet as i don't have access to a DH TV with HDMI. I would like to use the internal speakers. Can any one help me please, the Google searches all relate to ubuntu and not much help on Fedora Thanks in advance Daryl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
