[SLUG] SyPy Mar 4th: Starting with python and XMPP - David Banes
** RSVP via http://anyvite.com/slh5fwpa6m ** 6:15: Arrive and enjoy munchies provided by Google Australia 6:30: Five minute lightning talks (open to all) 6:45: Main Talk - Starting with python and XMPP 8:00: Social networking and beers and dinner upstairs at theHarlequin Inn. Starting with python and XMPP: An overview of libraries, servers and bot building in python for the open messaging protocol XMPP. Jabber, GTalk, Facebook chat and Google Wave are all built on XMPP. David Banes: Twenty years experience in the software security industry asHead of Product Management for Dr Solomon's(McAfee) UK,Regional Manager for Symantec Security Australia Response and Technical Director at MessageLabs. Most recently setting up Cleartext (2005), to focus on SaaS in email, IM, Web security, and application hosting in the collaboration and social networking area. Further Details: We will also have slots for 5 minute lightning talks. If you think its interesting and you're a pythonista then chances are we will too. Put together a few slides and bring it along. *RSVP: Please RSVP on Anyvite[1] to get your name on the door* Getting There: It's a 10min walk from Town Hall station over the pyrmont bridge (directions http://tinyurl.com/nedz98) or catch the light rail to the casino station. Go to level 5 or if the doors are locked wait outside and look for smiley happy google people to let you in. Free free to join us at the pub instead. Upstairs at theHarlequin Inn152-156 Harris St, Pyrmont(http://bit.ly/81rLtH). The Harly has thai/burgers available for dinner. If have any problems call Dylan Jay on 0421477460 [1] http://anyvite.com/slh5fwpa6m --- Dylan Jay Plone Solutions Manager. www.pretaweb.com P +612 80819071 M +61421477460 skype - dylan_jaytwitter - djay75 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] System admin graphing tools
We all know we should do it. Provide a monitoring system to see how our system loads are going. I have a couple of links that look interesting: http://flapjack-project.com/ It is local so goes first :-) Flapjack is a scalable and distributed monitoring system. It natively talks the Nagios plugin format. http://www.cacti.net/ (Language PHP) Cacti is a complete network graphing solution... http://munin.projects.linpro.no/ (Language Perl) Munin is a networked resource monitoring tool that can help analyze resource trends and what just happened to kill our performance? problems. It is designed to be very plug and play. A default installation provides a lot of graphs with almost no work. http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/ The Multi Router Traffic Grapher http://support.nagios.com/knowledgebase Cannot find a simple 'what is nagios' on website. 'Nagios is a host and service monitor designed to inform you of network problems.' From whitepaper. http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/ SmokePing keeps track of your network latency Any comments on the above and any others to add to the list? Other reading: http://wiki.nagios.org/index.php/White_Papers Implementation of Cacti, Smokeping, Nagios (2004) Based on a quick read, munin looks pretty good. Ta Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] System admin graphing tools
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Ken Foskey kfos...@tpg.com.au wrote: We all know we should do it. Provide a monitoring system to see how our system loads are going. I have a couple of links that look interesting: [...] Any comments on the above and any others to add to the list? JFFNMS is pretty good - I've used it in a couple of installations, and it'll do stuff cacti (my other default favourite) won't do, like alert on excessive link utilisation etc. Works with routers/switches (Cisco mainly) and servers with SNMP MIB's (disk, CPU etc). http://www.jffnms.org DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] System admin graphing tools
Have a look at zenoss It's nagios and munin in one. It does the alerting, threshholds, recovery actions and graphing all in one. Can monitor windo$e, vmware and talks nagios plugin format as well. Grant Ken Foskey wrote: We all know we should do it. Provide a monitoring system to see how our system loads are going. I have a couple of links that look interesting: http://flapjack-project.com/ It is local so goes first :-) Flapjack is a scalable and distributed monitoring system. It natively talks the Nagios plugin format. http://www.cacti.net/ (Language PHP) Cacti is a complete network graphing solution... http://munin.projects.linpro.no/ (Language Perl) Munin is a networked resource monitoring tool that can help analyze resource trends and what just happened to kill our performance? problems. It is designed to be very plug and play. A default installation provides a lot of graphs with almost no work. http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/ The Multi Router Traffic Grapher http://support.nagios.com/knowledgebase Cannot find a simple 'what is nagios' on website. 'Nagios is a host and service monitor designed to inform you of network problems.' From whitepaper. http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/ SmokePing keeps track of your network latency Any comments on the above and any others to add to the list? Other reading: http://wiki.nagios.org/index.php/White_Papers Implementation of Cacti, Smokeping, Nagios (2004) Based on a quick read, munin looks pretty good. Ta Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Testing glue records
My favorite tool (which has some limitations, but is usually a good start) is dnstracer. oll...@ppgnte-ubiq43:~$ dnstracer -s b.root-servers.net -o -4 www.smh.com.au Tracing to www.smh.com.au[a] via b.root-servers.net, maximum of 3 retries b.root-servers.net (192.228.79.201) |\___ UDNS1.AUSREGISTRY.NET.au [au] (156.154.100.18) | |\___ ns4.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.58.234.244) Got authoritative answer [received type is cname] [received type is cname] | |\___ ns2.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.5.59.241) Got authoritative answer [received type is cname] [received type is cname] | \___ ns1.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.26.177.241) Got authoritative answer [received type is cname] [received type is cname] |\___ NS2.AUDNS.NET.au [au] (58.65.249.73) | |\___ udns2.ausregistry.net.au [com.au] (156.154.101.18) | | |\___ ns1.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.26.177.241) (cached) | | |\___ ns4.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.58.234.244) (cached) | | \___ ns2.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.5.59.241) (cached) | |\___ udns1.ausregistry.net.au [com.au] (156.154.100.18) (cached) lots of cached results skipped ns1.fairfax.com.au (203.26.177.241) www.smh.com.au - dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net ns1.fairfax.com.au (203.26.177.241) dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net - a1040.b.akamai.net ns2.fairfax.com.au (203.5.59.241) www.smh.com.au - dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net ns2.fairfax.com.au (203.5.59.241) dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net - a1040.b.akamai.net ns4.fairfax.com.au (203.58.234.244) www.smh.com.au - dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net ns4.fairfax.com.au (203.58.234.244) dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net - a1040.b.akamai.net If you're having issues with glue, or one of your NSes is serving dodgy records, this will usually catch this - you'll see that ns1 returns one set of results while ns2 returns another; or you'll see that the .com.au servers are returning the wrong glue, etc. Which reminds me: poll...@ppgnte-ubiq43:~$ dnstracer -s b.root-servers.net -o -4 zhasper.com Tracing to zhasper.com[a] via b.root-servers.net, maximum of 3 retries b.root-servers.net (192.228.79.201) |\___ M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET [com] (192.55.83.30) | |\___ ns2.zilence.com.au [zhasper.com] (203.27.221.213) Refers backwards | \___ ns1.zilence.com.au [zhasper.com] (88.198.1.123) Got authoritative answer I really need to fix my own dns hosting. I should go back and read that other thread about secondary hosting.. On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:56 AM, John Ferlito jo...@inodes.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:12:44PM +1100, Ashley Glenday wrote: At the beginning of this saga I had a server in America that I called ns1.domain.com and ns2.domain.com. After this I decided to become patriotic (with the help of some sluggers suggestions) and moved to a host in Sydney, this server became ns3.domain.com and ns4.domain.com. My problem is that it's time to move yet again and I wanted to go back to ns1.domain.com and ns2.domain.com but this doesn't seem to work. My registrar assures me they've set the glue records up properly but I can't get it to resolve. The host has set the reverse DNS up as I can confirm that with host 123.123.123.123 which returns ns1.domain.com What I'm after is any known way to test the glue records are in fact set up properly and if they are, what else could I have missed? So for google If I wanted to check I would do jo...@zoot:~$ dig ns google.com ;; ANSWER SECTION: google.com. 296819 IN NS ns4.google.com. google.com. 296819 IN NS ns2.google.com. google.com. 296819 IN NS ns1.google.com. google.com. 296819 IN NS ns3.google.com. jo...@zoot:~$ dig soa com ;; ANSWER SECTION: com. 789 IN SOA a.gtld-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1266627161 1800 900 604800 86400 jo...@zoot:~$ dig a ns1.google.com. @a.gtld-servers.net. ;; ANSWER SECTION: ns1.google.com. 172800 IN A 216.239.32.10 If there is no glue record the ANSWER section will be empty and you'll get a WARNING about recusrion being disabled. Cheers, John -- John Blog http://www.inodes.org LCA2010 http://www.lca2010.org.nz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] System admin graphing tools
http://munin.projects.linpro.no/ (Language Perl) Munin is a networked resource monitoring tool that can help analyze resource trends and what just happened to kill our performance? problems. It is designed to be very plug and play. A default installation provides a lot of graphs with almost no work. I actively use munin and it is a great historical analysis tool. Great availability of plugins as well. -- Simon Males -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] System admin graphing tools
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Ken Foskey wrote: Hi, just did a deploy of NAGIOS/Munin/RRDtool and friends to Solaris 10 SPARC. This was for a company who will remain nameless who we outsourced monitoring to, who insisted on the above rather than using the shiny SunMC infrastructure we already had for the purpose. Porting this was a case of dependency, dependency.. Munin wants a lot of stuff - about 20 perl modules and then it wants RRDTool which in turn wants a whole bunch of obscure shared libraries such as cairo, pixman and pango, which is fine if you are a web 2.0 monkey, but in sysadmin world it is annoying. And then RRDtool wants you to have practically the latest of everything. And then it wants something called pkgconfig which is great if you are developer, but for sysadmin, very annoying.And then finally you can have the RRDtool perl module.. And then don't start me on some of the undocumented problems that caused gcc to break the compile because some stupid Linux hacker didn't understand POSIX compliance... So, in the end, I got the whole stack working.. My point. (oblinux) If you have an older, broken or improperly installed system, you will find Munin a pain to install. It wants practically the latest of everything, even touch libglib. If you have all your ducks in a row, it is still a pain but possible. Porting to Solaris 10 was easy for me, but if it had been a broken or older system, I doubt it would have got there. Munin looks OK, but it was obviously created by a bunch of anal-retentive module hackers with a mandate on making sure their install occcupies as much sysadmin brain power as possible. Approach only if you have a reasonably shiny system.. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. - Finagle's Law -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] System admin graphing tools
On 25 February 2010 17:55, Ken Foskey kfos...@tpg.com.au wrote: We all know we should do it. Provide a monitoring system to see how our system loads are going. I have a couple of links that look interesting: http://flapjack-project.com/ It is local so goes first :-) Flapjack is a scalable and distributed monitoring system. It natively talks the Nagios plugin format. Heh, thanks for the mention. :-) I wouldn't recommend using Flapjack right now unless you want to be testing bleeding edge stuff that is guaranteed to break, or you're a Ruby hacker with an inkling for sysadmin. I'd argue that you're conflating two types of software: statistic collectors (with graphs), and alerters/notifiers. For statistic collection, you cannot go past collectd[0]. collectd is very lightweight (it's written in C), has a plugin architecture (and a boatload of plugins to boot), and is network aware (you can collect stats from all your servers and aggregate them in one place). collectd has a few options for graphing: collection.cgi, collection3.cgi, and Visage[1]. collection*.cgi are CGI scripts (duh) that use RRDtool to generate graphs. Visage draws stats in the browser using JavaScript + SVG. collectd also has a Nagios bridge, so you can plug it into pretty much any alerting/notification system out there. Hope that helps! Lindsay [0] http://collectd.org [1] http://auxesis.github.com/visage (disclaimer: I wrote it) -- w: http://holmwood.id.au/~lindsay/ t: @auxesis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] editdns opinions?
david wrote: I'm thinking of using editdns.net for dns secondaries Does anyone have an opinion? I'm using editdns as primary dns for my domains. I'm happy with, have recommended them to plenty of other people and they've been equally happy. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] System admin graphing tools
I wouldn't bother wasting time on any of these tools. Perhaps http://www.zabbix.com might be universal monitoring solution. Regards, Dmitry. On 26 February 2010 09:55, Ken Foskey kfos...@tpg.com.au wrote: We all know we should do it. Provide a monitoring system to see how our system loads are going. I have a couple of links that look interesting: http://flapjack-project.com/ It is local so goes first :-) Flapjack is a scalable and distributed monitoring system. It natively talks the Nagios plugin format. http://www.cacti.net/ (Language PHP) Cacti is a complete network graphing solution... http://munin.projects.linpro.no/ (Language Perl) Munin is a networked resource monitoring tool that can help analyze resource trends and what just happened to kill our performance? problems. It is designed to be very plug and play. A default installation provides a lot of graphs with almost no work. http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/ The Multi Router Traffic Grapher http://support.nagios.com/knowledgebase Cannot find a simple 'what is nagios' on website. 'Nagios is a host and service monitor designed to inform you of network problems.' From whitepaper. http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/ SmokePing keeps track of your network latency Any comments on the above and any others to add to the list? Other reading: http://wiki.nagios.org/index.php/White_Papers Implementation of Cacti, Smokeping, Nagios (2004) Based on a quick read, munin looks pretty good. Ta Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Testing glue records
James, Thank you very much, that looks like exactly what I was after. I'll keep it in mind the next time this comes up. I ended up purchasing DNS hosting as my registrar didn't seem to be able to set the glue records up properly. Regards, Ashley Glenday * The time for my yearly haircut is coming around again (March 11th-13th). If anyone wants to sponsor me they can make a tax deductible donation at: http://my.imisfriendraising.com.au/personalPage.aspx?SID=91562 All money raised goes to the Leukemia Foundation. * ** I will be out of the country between 1st April and 20th April. During this time I can still be reached by email, but will be without mobile contact ** I am now offering after hours services. 7am-9am and 5pm-11pm Weekdays and all day Saturday and Sunday. The after hours number is: 02 4786 0736 New charges will apply Telephone support - $50 Remote support - $100 Onsite support - $200 p/h or part thereof On 26/02/10 10:20, James Polley wrote: My favorite tool (which has some limitations, but is usually a good start) is dnstracer. oll...@ppgnte-ubiq43:~$ dnstracer -s b.root-servers.net -o -4 www.smh.com.au Tracing to www.smh.com.au[a] via b.root-servers.net, maximum of 3 retries b.root-servers.net (192.228.79.201) |\___ UDNS1.AUSREGISTRY.NET.au [au] (156.154.100.18) | |\___ ns4.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.58.234.244) Got authoritative answer [received type is cname] [received type is cname] | |\___ ns2.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.5.59.241) Got authoritative answer [received type is cname] [received type is cname] | \___ ns1.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.26.177.241) Got authoritative answer [received type is cname] [received type is cname] |\___ NS2.AUDNS.NET.au [au] (58.65.249.73) | |\___ udns2.ausregistry.net.au [com.au] (156.154.101.18) | | |\___ ns1.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.26.177.241) (cached) | | |\___ ns4.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.58.234.244) (cached) | | \___ ns2.fairfax.com.au [smh.com.au] (203.5.59.241) (cached) | |\___ udns1.ausregistry.net.au [com.au] (156.154.100.18) (cached) lots of cached results skipped ns1.fairfax.com.au (203.26.177.241) www.smh.com.au - dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net ns1.fairfax.com.au (203.26.177.241) dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net - a1040.b.akamai.net ns2.fairfax.com.au (203.5.59.241) www.smh.com.au - dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net ns2.fairfax.com.au (203.5.59.241) dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net - a1040.b.akamai.net ns4.fairfax.com.au (203.58.234.244) www.smh.com.au - dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net ns4.fairfax.com.au (203.58.234.244) dsa.f2.com.au.edgesuite.net - a1040.b.akamai.net If you're having issues with glue, or one of your NSes is serving dodgy records, this will usually catch this - you'll see that ns1 returns one set of results while ns2 returns another; or you'll see that the .com.au servers are returning the wrong glue, etc. Which reminds me: poll...@ppgnte-ubiq43:~$ dnstracer -s b.root-servers.net -o -4 zhasper.com Tracing to zhasper.com[a] via b.root-servers.net, maximum of 3 retries b.root-servers.net (192.228.79.201) |\___ M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET [com] (192.55.83.30) | |\___ ns2.zilence.com.au [zhasper.com] (203.27.221.213) Refers backwards | \___ ns1.zilence.com.au [zhasper.com] (88.198.1.123) Got authoritative answer I really need to fix my own dns hosting. I should go back and read that other thread about secondary hosting.. On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:56 AM, John Ferlitojo...@inodes.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:12:44PM +1100, Ashley Glenday wrote: At the beginning of this saga I had a server in America that I called ns1.domain.com and ns2.domain.com. After this I decided to become patriotic (with the help of some sluggers suggestions) and moved to a host in Sydney, this server became ns3.domain.com and ns4.domain.com. My problem is that it's time to move yet again and I wanted to go back to ns1.domain.com and ns2.domain.com but this doesn't seem to work. My registrar assures me they've set the glue records up properly but I can't get it to resolve. The host has set the reverse DNS up as I can confirm that with host 123.123.123.123 which returns ns1.domain.com What I'm after is any known way to test the glue records are in fact set up properly and if they are, what else could I have missed? So for google If I wanted to check I would do jo...@zoot:~$ dig ns google.com ;; ANSWER SECTION: google.com. 296819 IN NS ns4.google.com. google.com. 296819 IN NS ns2.google.com. google.com. 296819 IN NS ns1.google.com. google.com. 296819 IN NS ns3.google.com. jo...@zoot:~$ dig soa com ;; ANSWER SECTION: com.789 IN SOA a.gtld-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1266627161 1800 900 604800 86400 jo...@zoot:~$ dig a ns1.google.com. @a.gtld-servers.net. ;; ANSWER SECTION: ns1.google.com. 172800 IN A 216.239.32.10 If there is no glue record the ANSWER
Re: [SLUG] System admin graphing tools
torrus is awesome www.torrus.org Dean Ken Foskey wrote: We all know we should do it. Provide a monitoring system to see how our system loads are going. I have a couple of links that look interesting: http://flapjack-project.com/ It is local so goes first :-) Flapjack is a scalable and distributed monitoring system. It natively talks the Nagios plugin format. http://www.cacti.net/ (Language PHP) Cacti is a complete network graphing solution... http://munin.projects.linpro.no/ (Language Perl) Munin is a networked resource monitoring tool that can help analyze resource trends and what just happened to kill our performance? problems. It is designed to be very plug and play. A default installation provides a lot of graphs with almost no work. http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/ The Multi Router Traffic Grapher http://support.nagios.com/knowledgebase Cannot find a simple 'what is nagios' on website. 'Nagios is a host and service monitor designed to inform you of network problems.' From whitepaper. http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/ SmokePing keeps track of your network latency Any comments on the above and any others to add to the list? Other reading: http://wiki.nagios.org/index.php/White_Papers Implementation of Cacti, Smokeping, Nagios (2004) Based on a quick read, munin looks pretty good. Ta Ken -- http://fragfest.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] System admin graphing tools
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 09:55 +1100, Ken Foskey wrote: http://www.cacti.net/ (Language PHP) Cacti is a complete network graphing solution... I found cacti to have a surprisingly steep learning curve, figuring out how the data sources and input methods and queries work. But it's a very very capable tool, and the interface is getting very nice and Web 2.0 in recent versions. Extending what you're graphing with cacti requires a reasonable understanding of SNMP and how net-snmpd works. But once you've overcome that you can monitor anything you can write a script for. It's pretty neat. http://munin.projects.linpro.no/ (Language Perl) Munin is a networked resource monitoring tool that can help analyze resource trends and what just happened to kill our performance? problems. It is designed to be very plug and play. A default installation provides a lot of graphs with almost no work. The plugin architecture for munin is very flexible - spend half an hour going through the tutorial and it's very easy to start churning out graphs for anything you can think of. The fact that it relies on agent software running on the monitored device is a bit of a pain. I'm still having stability issues with the Windows agent, and pulling stats from devices that can't run an agent is a pain - munin's SNMP support is very weak. I've managed to get it to poll one of my ciscos, but it was a battle. Maybe I just haven't spent enough time working with it, but the web interface for munin is very sparse compared to the features available in cacti. http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/ The Multi Router Traffic Grapher Are people still using MRTG in new installations? I had the feeling it was kind of supplanted by other tools mentioned above. http://support.nagios.com/knowledgebase Cannot find a simple 'what is nagios' on website. 'Nagios is a host and service monitor designed to inform you of network problems.' From whitepaper. Everything else you've mentioned covers service performance. Nagios handles service availability and notifications only, and I consider it best-of-breed for this. http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/ SmokePing keeps track of your network latency Also a big fan of this one. Does one thing only, and does it incredibly well. Based on a quick read, munin looks pretty good. I would have serious reservations about deploying munin if you have more than a couple of SNMP-only devices, or more than a couple of critical Windows boxes. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: [activities] SLUG FebruaryMonthly Meeting - Python Game Programming *Tutorial*
On 25/02/2010, at 11:01 AM, Robert Collins wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 11:31 +1100, Tim 'mithro' Ansell wrote: Hello everyone! Don't forget to do your homework (Install Python, Pyglet and Rabbyt) before this tutorial. The set-up page has been updated with instructions for a number of other Linux distros. You can find it at http://wiki.slug.org.au/pythonprogrammingsetup Those docs suggest easy_install; run arbitrary from the internet. Yay! run code written by the authors of the software. I suggest apt-get install python-pyglet python-rabbyt digitally signed packages \o/. which locks you into a certain operating system. Not very pythonic. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
