Re: [SLUG] Server licences
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Jim Donovan wrote: > A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She reports > that both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a suitable box insist > that "licences are required before the server can be connected to another > computer". Apparently different licences are needed for terminal servers, > whatever that may be, and virtualisation servers. In the case of HP, they're probably talking about ILO (Integrated Lights Out) licenses which aren't strictly necessary (despite HP telling you otherwise), and in the case of Dell it'll be OpenManage licenses which, again, aren't strictly necessary. Both are out of band management solutions which mean you can access the server even if the OS is fubar - but you don't *need* them - and, in HP's case, you get a "basic" license with the server anyway, which is good enough to get tot he O-O-B console and fix most problems. Your client needs, as other people have said, to clarify with the server vendor what these "licenses' are for. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Server licences
I think Dell sells RedHat licenses, RH probably needs extra licenses for VMs or terminal server mode. On 22 February 2011 09:50, Jim Donovan wrote: > A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She reports that > both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a suitable box insist that > "licences are required before the server can be connected to another > computer". Apparently different licences are needed for terminal servers, > whatever that may be, and virtualisation servers. > > Can anyone explain what these licences are about, please? > > Jim Donovan > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Server licences
Don't take this the wrong way, but what about asking HP and Dell directly yourself. Perhaps the client doesn't have the technical understanding to relay their requirements and based on what the vendor is saying, reconcile them both? On 22 February 2011 09:50, Jim Donovan wrote: > A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She reports > that both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a suitable box insist > that "licences are required before the server can be connected to another > computer". Apparently different licences are needed for terminal servers, > whatever that may be, and virtualisation servers. > > Can anyone explain what these licences are about, please? > > Jim Donovan > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Server licences
I believe Dell would be requiring a license for openmanage, and while I'm not sure about HP, I would think they had some similar "licensing" as well. As for putting it on the network, that doesn't require a license for it (as far as I know), but just the openmanage stuff. Chris- On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Jim Donovan wrote: > A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She reports that > both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a suitable box insist that > "licences are required before the server can be connected to another > computer". Apparently different licences are needed for terminal servers, > whatever that may be, and virtualisation servers. > > Can anyone explain what these licences are about, please? > > Jim Donovan > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Server licences
A client who needs a server on which to run a Linux system. She reports that both Dell and HP in their quotes for supplying a suitable box insist that "licences are required before the server can be connected to another computer". Apparently different licences are needed for terminal servers, whatever that may be, and virtualisation servers. Can anyone explain what these licences are about, please? Jim Donovan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SLUG Monthly Meeting: 25th February 2011
Location Google Sydney - 48 Pirrama Road, Pyrmont Summary * Date: Friday, 25th February 2011 * Start time: Arrive at 6pm for a 6:30pm start * Format: Lightning talks * == RSVP at [[http://slug.eventbrite.com]] == * Suggest or sign up for a talk on the wiki[1] Details This month we will only be having lightning talks[2]. We're looking for as many talks of a 5-7 minute duration as possible. If you are interested in talking, please sign up on the wiki[1]. [1] m...@elliott-brennan.id.auhttp://wiki.slug.org.au/january2011lightningtalks [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Talk Giving a lighting talk is a great way to show of the cool things you are doing! You don't have to create slides or even be well prepared, just come along and talks. Don't think you can give a talk, but have an idea for a talk you'd like to see? Add it to the **Talks I'd like to see** on the wiki page [1] === Afterwards === We'll be aiming to finish by 8 and will be heading to the Pyrmont Bridge Hotel afterwards. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] recommended Linux server training
Hi, my wife's birthday is coming up and I'd like to surprise her - and what could be more surprising than a Linux sever training. Yes, I'm serious! Could you suggest any of them please? Thanks, Miklos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [chat] Does a PoE switch need direct access to a PoE device?
Plugging a non-POE switch into a POE switch will work fine - but not forward on any "power". In simple terms, a POE switch will test, through various means, whether it is safe to apply the 48V power to the device that is connecting to it. So your non-POE switch will not receive any useful power from the POE switch as it won't meet those prerequisites. It also does not have capability to pass on "power" to devices down stream. (Obviously all Ethernet devices need to provide power when they transmit, but only at signal levels, not able to power devices in the POE sense.) Regards, Martin martinvisse...@gmail.com On 21 February 2011 18:15, Simon Males wrote: > Hi Slug chatters > > I'm wearing a network engineers hat as of hat and I'm tempted to > install a PoE switch as we expand to power PoE supported phones. > > Some phones will have direct access to the PoE switch. But others will > be connected via other intermediary switches. > > Will an intermediary non PoE switch blow up/block/pass on the power > from the 'master' PoE switch? > > If the former, I guess daisy chaining PoE switches is relatively safe? > > -- > Simon Males > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
