[SLUG] Christmas Party for SLUG in December
Hi all, Quick e-mail. Can anyone who is interested in helping to organise our Christmas event please contact me so we can get some planning underway. Thanks, Patrick -- www.patrickological.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SLUG Meeting Friday 25 November.
Mark, 'Fraid I don't know your e-mail address so I'm sending this to the group. Can you please add you talk to the SLUG site so I can arrange the rest of the talks? Thanks, Patrick -- www.patrickological.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3
I think you've skipped a bit there, Glen. Glen Turner Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:00:02 +1030 As a little thought experiment, here's the mouseclicks to launch a word processor: > - MacOS - 3 - "Applications | LibreOffice | TextDocument" For my mother-in-law and others like her: You've missed the bit where they have to remind themselves of what the application is called that they rarely use or they've just tried installing and that they have to scan the dock (depending on how big it is) to find an icon which may or may not relate to the item they're looking for). SO: Scan a HUGE list of items trying to remember the name of the application you used ages ago and maybe can't recall. Click on possibility, application starts and you find it's the wrong one. Try again. > - Windows 7 - 3 - "Win | LibreOffice | Writer" You've missed the bit where they have to remind themselves of what the application is called that they rarely use or they've just tried installing and that they have to scan the applications list (depending on how big it is) to find an icon or name which may or may not relate to the item they're looking for). SO: Scan a HUGE list of items trying to remember the name of the application you used ages ago and maybe can't recall. Click on possibility, application starts and you find it's the wrong one. Try again. > - GNOME3 - 4 - "Activities | Applications | Office | LibreOffice Writer" Haven't used GNOME3 but in KDE you can find things stored under headings which relate to what the application does. Very nice and easy for people to navigate. Mind you, a mouse-over should be the primary option rather than a mouse-click. None of this is to argue the virtues of GNOME3 as I've not tried it, just to be more accurate in how many users experience their UI. :) Regards, Patrick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Clustering weirdness
On 14 November 2011 23:53, Steven Tucker wrote: > Hi all, > > got a problem with my cluster using OpenMPI + Torque+ Maui. > I don't think OpenMPI is so common that you'll find many people with experience in this forum. You might have better luck in OpenMPI or Torque or Maui specific forums, e.g. http://www.open-mpi.org/community/lists/users/ --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Clustering weirdness
Hi all, got a problem with my cluster using OpenMPI + Torque+ Maui. I can submit 50 different jobs (single process) and the batching system will run all 50 in parallel, but I cant get an MPI job to run on more that 1 node. I assumed it must be my pbs script, but I have tried just about every config I can find/think of and still no luck. pbsnodes -a produces the following, but all the way up to 16 nodes and the second half are quad cores, just showing the first 2 for brevity. tuxta@WPCluster:~$ pbsnodes -a WPCluster.workstation.griffith.edu.au state = free np = 4 ntype = cluster status = rectime=1321274238,varattr=,jobs=,state=free,netload=87819550163,gres=,loadave=0.00,ncpus=4,physmem=4047980kb,availmem=11466240kb,totmem=11860068kb,idletime=1574,nusers=1,nsessions=1,sessions=27627,uname=Linux WPCluster 2.6.32-34-server #77-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 13 20:54:38 UTC 2011 x86_64,opsys=linux node02 state = free np = 2 ntype = cluster status = rectime=1321274239,varattr=,jobs=,state=free,netload=191116409,gres=,loadave=0.00,ncpus=2,physmem=1021584kb,availmem=8642904kb,totmem=8832648kb,idletime=2258,nusers=0,nsessions=? 15201,sessions=? 15201,uname=Linux node02 2.6.32-34-server #77-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 13 20:54:38 UTC 2011 x86_64,opsys=linux The following file works fine when nodes=1, but when I make nodes=2 it never runs, just keeps a state of E rather than R #!/bin/bash #PBS -N Hello_Test #PBS -l nodes=2:ppn=4 cd $PBS_O_WORKDIR mpiexec -np 8 hello Not sure what other info is helpful so don't want to put heaps of stuff here, if any more info is needed just let me know. Does anyone have any ideas? Regards Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3
On 14/11/2011, at 16:30, Glen Turner wrote:
> - GNOME3 - 4 - "Activities | Applications | Office | LibreOffice Writer"
Activities doesn't count as a mouse click — it's a hot corner. Indeed, it's
*more* efficient than a mouse click, as you just thrust your mouse in the
general direction of the corner, and you get there. Much more efficient than
clicking buttons.
Also, I notice you listed the most inefficient way to launch the application.
That is fine if it's the first time you do it — e.g. are discovering what apps
are installed — but after that, there is a clearly labelled search box that can
launch apps.
So I can hit my Win key (or thrust my mouse to the top-left), type the first
few letters ('lib' will usually do), and it launches.
That's *more* efficient than any of your examples, and is easily discoverable.
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Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Cowie < and...@operationaldynamics.com> wrote: > > > What I find annoying about these conversations is that if you had gone > and bought an Apple with Mac OS X you would be perfectly reasonably > working through learning how to use a new Desktop and not complaining > about it at all. > > well... gnome is NOT apple/osx, apple/osx is a CLOSED system, designed to deliver one experience what was beneficial about gnome which had followed the philosophy of unix (and perl) that said, there's more than one right way to do it... it was about choice... if you are going to make personalisation too difficult, we might as well use osx... and dare i say, it's not windows people mostly moving to mac's, but linux desktop people! > But here we are admonishing the GNOME hackers had the temerity to do > something new and different. > kudos to them... but they made things less flexible... and that is the complaint... removing the left side bar now i have heard is near impossible... that to me is absolute rubbish! you going to force that type of UI stuff on me (not default it on me, which i have no issue with... but force it on me)... osx, here i come! (or better yet... for the moment, downgrade to gnome2... here i come). simran. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
