Re: [SLUG] Linux and Apache limits on number of files in a directory

2012-04-04 Thread Marghanita da Cruz

When I downloaded the players in a single directory on my computer after 
download the directory management took it toll on my application,  following 
the same directory structure had a massive improvement on performance,  a 
simple divide gave me the directory.


It would be worth noting, that caching would make the situation slightly 
different on a webserver.


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Re: [SLUG] Linux and Apache limits on number of files in a directory

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Fox
Subsequent access yes, but the first access no. In addition, I still think
having 1000 directories (each with so many files under each of those
directories) is vastly better compared to 1 million files in a single
directory.

Very easy choice for managing using the first example.. web proxy or not :)

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Marghanita da Cruz
marghan...@ramin.com.auwrote:

 When I downloaded the players in a single directory on my computer after
 download the directory management took it toll on my application,
  following the same directory structure had a massive improvement on
 performance,  a simple divide gave me the directory.


 It would be worth noting, that caching would make the situation slightly
 different on a webserver.

 Marghanita
 --
 Marghanita da Cruz
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 Website: http://ramin.com.au
 Phone:(+612) 0414-869202


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Re: [SLUG] Linux and Apache limits on number of files in a directory

2012-04-04 Thread Marghanita da Cruz

Michael Fox wrote:
Subsequent access yes, but the first access no. In addition, I still 
think having 1000 directories (each with so many files under each of 
those directories) is vastly better compared to 1 million files in a 
single directory.




Good point, I just checked I am at 1406 files in the directory, so probably
time to start spreading files across multiple directories. The ftp ls was
slow and it probably also slows writing (uploading replacing files).

At some time in the past, there was a suggestion about keeping files of
particular types together in separate directories. Does anyone have any
comments on this?


Very easy choice for managing using the first example.. web proxy or not :)

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Marghanita da Cruz 
marghan...@ramin.com.au mailto:marghan...@ramin.com.au wrote:


When I downloaded the players in a single directory on my
computer after download the directory management took it toll on
my application,  following the same directory structure had a
massive improvement on performance,  a simple divide gave me the
directory.


It would be worth noting, that caching would make the situation
slightly different on a webserver.

Marghanita
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Ramin Communications (Sydney)
Website: http://ramin.com.au
Phone:(+612) 0414-869202


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Re: [SLUG] Linux and Apache limits on number of files in a directory

2012-04-04 Thread Jake Anderson
I wouldn't expect 1500 files in a dir to be slow (from the file system 
POV, the ftp server is doing who knows what).
slow would probably start to kick in ~10-30k files (and in general that 
should still be fairly quick, opening the file would probably take on 
the order of half a second).


Look at all the maildir based email systems out there, with 60k+ emails 
in a folder.


On 04/05/2012 12:50 PM, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:

Michael Fox wrote:
Subsequent access yes, but the first access no. In addition, I still 
think having 1000 directories (each with so many files under each of 
those directories) is vastly better compared to 1 million files in a 
single directory.




Good point, I just checked I am at 1406 files in the directory, so 
probably

time to start spreading files across multiple directories. The ftp ls was
slow and it probably also slows writing (uploading replacing files).

At some time in the past, there was a suggestion about keeping files of
particular types together in separate directories. Does anyone have any
comments on this?

Very easy choice for managing using the first example.. web proxy or 
not :)


On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Marghanita da Cruz 
marghan...@ramin.com.au mailto:marghan...@ramin.com.au wrote:


When I downloaded the players in a single directory on my
computer after download the directory management took it toll on
my application,  following the same directory structure had a
massive improvement on performance,  a simple divide gave me the
directory.


It would be worth noting, that caching would make the situation
slightly different on a webserver.

Marghanita
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Ramin Communications (Sydney)
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Phone:(+612) 0414-869202


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Re: [SLUG] Linux and Apache limits on number of files in a directory

2012-04-04 Thread David Lyon
imho if you have so many files, it might be worth looking at a CMS
where a record can be created for each item and rendered on demand.

On 4/5/12, Jake Anderson ya...@vapourforge.com wrote:
 I wouldn't expect 1500 files in a dir to be slow (from the file system
 POV, the ftp server is doing who knows what).
 slow would probably start to kick in ~10-30k files (and in general that
 should still be fairly quick, opening the file would probably take on
 the order of half a second).

 Look at all the maildir based email systems out there, with 60k+ emails
 in a folder.

 On 04/05/2012 12:50 PM, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
 Michael Fox wrote:
 Subsequent access yes, but the first access no. In addition, I still
 think having 1000 directories (each with so many files under each of
 those directories) is vastly better compared to 1 million files in a
 single directory.


 Good point, I just checked I am at 1406 files in the directory, so
 probably
 time to start spreading files across multiple directories. The ftp ls was
 slow and it probably also slows writing (uploading replacing files).

 At some time in the past, there was a suggestion about keeping files of
 particular types together in separate directories. Does anyone have any
 comments on this?

 Very easy choice for managing using the first example.. web proxy or
 not :)

 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Marghanita da Cruz
 marghan...@ramin.com.au mailto:marghan...@ramin.com.au wrote:

 When I downloaded the players in a single directory on my
 computer after download the directory management took it toll on
 my application,  following the same directory structure had a
 massive improvement on performance,  a simple divide gave me the
 directory.


 It would be worth noting, that caching would make the situation
 slightly different on a webserver.

 Marghanita
 -- Marghanita da Cruz
 Ramin Communications (Sydney)
 Website: http://ramin.com.au
 Phone:(+612) 0414-869202


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