Re: [SLUG] python in linux mint

2013-05-30 Thread Chris Barnes
Sounds like you want a basic Python IDE.

Never used Python myself. But a quick search looks like Eric for Linux Mint
might be a good one to try.

http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/



On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Ben Donohue donoh...@icafe.com.au wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm trying to get my kids into programming... (I'm not a programmer by the
 way)...

 anyway Linux Mint has Python installed.

 If I type python at the shell prompt I get a python 

 However I'd like something that they can type the program in and another
 window opens and displays their program running... or something like that.

 (Yes I'm a complete noob at this.)

 Is there such a beast or what is something that I can get the kids started
 on... python-wise...?

 Thanks,
 Ben

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Re: [SLUG] python in linux mint

2013-05-30 Thread Michael Chesterton
Have you looked at the raspberry pi? it's designed for the classroom to
teach kids about programming and computers.

The ipython shell is nicer than the plain python shell and I'm sure there
are other GUI apps that I'm not aware of that do what you want, so stay
tuned ;)

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On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Ben Donohue donoh...@icafe.com.au wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm trying to get my kids into programming... (I'm not a programmer by the
 way)...

 anyway Linux Mint has Python installed.

 If I type python at the shell prompt I get a python 

 However I'd like something that they can type the program in and another
 window opens and displays their program running... or something like that.

 (Yes I'm a complete noob at this.)

 Is there such a beast or what is something that I can get the kids started
 on... python-wise...?

 Thanks,
 Ben

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Re: [SLUG] python in linux mint

2013-05-30 Thread David Lyon
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Michael Chesterton che...@chesterton.id.au
 wrote:

 Have you looked at the raspberry pi? it's designed for the classroom to
 teach kids about programming and computers.


Semi-related to that, a rep at Element14 at cebit was saying that there are
approx. 10,000
Raspberry-Pi's being sold in Australia every month. That's a lot of Linux
machines hitting
the streets.



 The ipython shell is nicer than the plain python shell and I'm sure there
 are other GUI apps that I'm not aware of that do what you want, so stay
 tuned ;)


It's worth trying that.

Also, tomorrow night, I will be giving a talk on I2C and Linux. It's a
communications bus
that you may never have known that you had.

I pulled out my Soldering-Iron and spent some time doing this on a spare
VGA adaptor:

 - http://flipthatbit.net/2011/04/interfacing-i2c-the-easy-way/

 - http://www.paintyourdragon.com/?p=43

When I plugged it into my notebook It worked rather nicely, and I'll be
bringing it along tomorrow
night for the talk.

It sounds complicated, but it's not so bad. When it's connected to a few
LED's it's actually
rather fun.
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Re: [SLUG] python in linux mint

2013-05-30 Thread Ben Donohue

Thanks one and all... looks like I have somewhere to start.
Right now they are using scratch via a browser... and I did thing of the 
raspberry pi...

I'll start getting some stuff together and give some feedback when I can.
Ben

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Re: [SLUG] python in linux mint

2013-05-30 Thread Heracles
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On 05/30/2013 05:05 PM, Ben Donohue wrote:
 Thanks one and all... looks like I have somewhere to start.
 Right now they are using scratch via a browser... and I did thing of the
 raspberry pi...
 I'll start getting some stuff together and give some feedback when I can.
 Ben
 
 There are other things as well. Depending upon the age of the kids you
could look at Gambas3 which is rather like Visual Basic. Simple and fast
way to develop applications using a nice GUI.

Just a thought
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Re: [SLUG] python in linux mint

2013-05-30 Thread Jiří Baum
Hi,

Ben Donohue:
 If I type python at the shell prompt I get a python 

 However I'd like something that they can type the program in and another
 window opens and displays their program running... or something like that.

The ipython notebook can be nice. It's nicer to use than the prompt
(you can go back, change the code and run it again) and lets you save
what you're doing. However, it doesn't do the displays their program
running and there can be a lot of hidden state (what variable has what
value is not visible).

Depending on the age of the children and their strengths and interests,
something like Scratch may be a more gentle introduction.


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Re: [SLUG] python in linux mint

2013-05-30 Thread kfoskey
When coding in scripting languages generally they just run the code.  The 
IDE is separate.   So you pick a decent editor that makes sense to you and 
most of them will have a run option which will execute python underneath it.


So edit the stuff in any of the programmers editors,   such as emacs (or evn 
vi if you want to be mean to your kids) and they can then execute directly 
from there.



-Original Message- 
From: Ben Donohue

Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:58 PM
To: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: [SLUG] python in linux mint

Hi all,

I'm trying to get my kids into programming... (I'm not a programmer by
the way)...

anyway Linux Mint has Python installed.

If I type python at the shell prompt I get a python 

However I'd like something that they can type the program in and another
window opens and displays their program running... or something like that.

(Yes I'm a complete noob at this.)

Is there such a beast or what is something that I can get the kids
started on... python-wise...?

Thanks,
Ben

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[SLUG] SLUG May meeting - I2C Bus on Linux

2013-05-30 Thread committee

== May 2013 SLUG Meeting - TODAY 6pm - I2C Bus on Linux ==

Summary

 * Date: Friday, May 31, 2013, 6 p.m.
 * Start: Arrive at 6pm for a 6:30pm start
 * Format: TBA
 * RSVP: http://www.slug.org.au/event/265001
 * Suggest or sign up for a talk at http://www.slug.org.au/talks

 Details 

Our main talk will be I2C Bus on Linux by David Lyon.

- Many embedded Linux devices now carry the I2C bus. Here's a presentation  
on how to set up I2C on Linux and how to use it. Demonstration will be on  
the Raspberry-Pi, but the I2C bus also exists on many other systems, such  
as the BeagleBone and Chumby.


As usual, there will also be lightning talks on the night; if you have  
something you want to share, something you found or used or wrote for  
Linux, please do put your name up on the board toward the beginning of the  
meeting.


Location

  Google Sydney
  Level 5, Workplace 6
  48 Pirrama Road
  Pyrmont, NSW

 Map: http://signup.slug.org.au/map

-- Getting there --

The Google office is the big black building marked Accenture opposite
Star City Pirrama Road facade.

If using the trains, you can go either get off at;

 * Town Hall station, head towards Darling Harbour, walk across the Pyrmont
   footbridge and then follow Pirrama Road towards Star city.
 * Central station, then take the light rail to Star City.

If using the buses, the route 443 stops right out front of the building.

If using the light rail, get off at Star City station and walk across the
street.

If you drive, then you can look for parking on the suburban streets around
the office (or pay for parking at the Casino), and then walk from there.

=== Afterwards ===

We'll be aiming to finish by 8pm and will be heading to the Pyrmont Bridge
Hotel (PBH) afterwards to socalise and eat dinner. The PBH is marked on the
map.

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