Re: [SLUG] Enlightenment
On Thu, 9 May 2013, David Lyon wrote: I've had a similar experience. My Enlightenment (Bodhi Linux) notebook has O/S imploded with two weeks of continuous use. After changing themes, the file manager doesn't display anything (rendering problem?) making copying files from the SD card easily, not easy. Back to shell. Then, git for some reason has stopped being able to 'push'. Which is really frustrating considering that the only 'typing' and web-browsing, are the only function left to me that now work. I found the last time I used Enlightenment, many years ago, the best way was to compile it myself, from source. Never had problems with it then and was able to modify the components I found annoying and to optimise it for my particular platform. I even managed to get it to run on Solaris at one point. I doubt it would work that way these days - portable UNIX only applies to Linux flavours these days, not to the OS realm as a whole :/ rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The more an answer costs, the more respect it carries. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux midi interface
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013, Ben Donohue wrote: Hi thanks, Thanks to one slugger I've ordered a 4 port midi off deals extreme... now waiting as they don't have it in stock MidiBox 4-in/4-out USB 2.0 64-MIDI Interface Thru/Merge Box These will work OK provided you don't rely too heavily on clock sync - you may only be able to allocate one port to transmit/receive clock sync with any stability. rachel Ben On 18/02/13 16:19, Martin Visser wrote: I have a Tascam US-122 that works great in Linux (it does MIDI as well as audio). I think this is discontinued now - I imagine the newer version have probably gained support in Linux as well. (Google is your friend) Regards, Martin martinvisse...@gmail.com mailto:martinvisse...@gmail.com On 8 February 2013 21:12, Ben Donohue donoh...@icafe.com.au mailto:donoh...@icafe.com.au wrote: Hi all, I'm after a USB to MIDI interface that works with Linux. I'd prefer Linux Mint as I'm getting used to this distro but in any case I'm after buying one that works with Linux... as in has drivers etc. End goal is to have the keyboard connected to a laptop running a flavour of Linux and run music learning / composing / sequencing / etc software on it. Anyone care to add some thoughts / experience on what works. Thanks, Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The more an answer costs, the more respect it carries. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] script to analyse syslog in realtime
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Chris Barnes wrote: any suggestions? SPLUNK?! -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The more an answer costs, the more respect it carries. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Tuning Systems and Energy Use (Sys Admin Roles and Responsibilities)
Not many people are aware, but I was surprised, after discussing with some engineers a few years ago, that the physical vibrations of equipment in their racks can actually cause power increases and performance issues purely as a result of the vibrations interfering with disk seek times and so on. The sympathetic vibrations of the disk and media is actually perceptible when tests are run. As the vibrations are constant, this will affect the way the heads on the disk access the data. When the vibrations were suppressed, disk seeks improved commensurately and a noted decrease in power consumption and response time was noted. Multiply these factors when taking large SAN based media stores into consideration and then it is clear that careful setup of servers and storage in their racks can actually improve performance and reduce power loads a lot mre than you would expect And, so I do not appear to be coming from this angle as a Jonesian fact maker, here is some research to back it up! http://www.dbms2.com/2010/05/08/disk-vibration-data-warehouse-performance-problem/ It is just as amazing to me, as when an engineer demonstrated SCSI reflections by bending a cable beyond a certain limit, whereupon all data transmission ceased. Â The waveform of the electonic stream had a period that meant it could not bend around the pathway made by the cable and the data just stopped moving. Â Â Â I find things like this amazing because it is like observing some kinds of weird quantum behaviour you would not expect, manifesting in the physical world. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. - Finagle's Law-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] System admin graphing tools
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Ken Foskey wrote: Hi, just did a deploy of NAGIOS/Munin/RRDtool and friends to Solaris 10 SPARC. This was for a company who will remain nameless who we outsourced monitoring to, who insisted on the above rather than using the shiny SunMC infrastructure we already had for the purpose. Porting this was a case of dependency, dependency.. Munin wants a lot of stuff - about 20 perl modules and then it wants RRDTool which in turn wants a whole bunch of obscure shared libraries such as cairo, pixman and pango, which is fine if you are a web 2.0 monkey, but in sysadmin world it is annoying. And then RRDtool wants you to have practically the latest of everything. And then it wants something called pkgconfig which is great if you are developer, but for sysadmin, very annoying.And then finally you can have the RRDtool perl module.. And then don't start me on some of the undocumented problems that caused gcc to break the compile because some stupid Linux hacker didn't understand POSIX compliance... So, in the end, I got the whole stack working.. My point. (oblinux) If you have an older, broken or improperly installed system, you will find Munin a pain to install. It wants practically the latest of everything, even touch libglib. If you have all your ducks in a row, it is still a pain but possible. Porting to Solaris 10 was easy for me, but if it had been a broken or older system, I doubt it would have got there. Munin looks OK, but it was obviously created by a bunch of anal-retentive module hackers with a mandate on making sure their install occcupies as much sysadmin brain power as possible. Approach only if you have a reasonably shiny system.. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. - Finagle's Law -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] LAMP - researching setup for hosting on multiple servers
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, justin randell wrote: hi 2009/12/17 Daniel Pittman dan...@rimspace.net: Use session affinity in your load balancer. ?No, really, with PHP it will almost certainly hurt less. ?Sorry. i'm interested in the war-wounds that made you write that ;-) having setup share-nothing php-heads writing session data to a database on several load-balanced architectures without any issues (directly related to that technique, of course), that response seems a bit blanket. I doubt you will find anything much more exciting that the above, but I don't actually have much useful reference material on hand at the moment. i threatened to do a slug presentation on this some time ago, but never came through with it. /me hangs his head in shame... Hi, I am doing N+1 horizontal scaling on Solaris blades. It is the same principle. We use it as a webfarm to serve vhosts via a single instance of apache stack installed onto a NAS and shared across all the blades. All the blades share the same configuration and data from the NAS. The logs are written to locally on each blade. This lowers admin overhead as the AMP stack can be locked away read only and a vhosts.conf setup on the writable portions of the NAS to edited and maintained. We use PHP session caching and PHP acceleration to assist in content handling. The concept is simple. Use the Content Switch to supply Virtual IPs for each farm. Then add CNAMES to each VIP that you have. The CNAME represents an Apache Name Virtual Host and is addressed as such. There is no limit practically to how many VIP and CNAME clusters you can serve this way. Limitation is SSL, so we do termination on the Content switch - no SSL required on the blades but you need to have a VIP per SSL instance. This can also run shibbolised environments, tomcats, java stacks, mod_perl, PHP etc. -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. - Finagle's Law-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux Saves Aussie Electrical Grid
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, CaT wrote: On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:33:00PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: However, considering that they were using Windows as X terminals for Solaris servers, one wonders why they weren't using Linux. I guess windows desktops are cheaper than solaris workstations. :) They could use a Sunray network and have all thin clients with a console locked down to the critical applications. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. - Finagle's Law -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 40 Years of Unix
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Jake Anderson wrote: On 31/08/09 13:04, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: AFAIK no *NIX based computer would run without one ... as soon as the kernel spawns init from there on its all shells So demise, ahh, no. jobst There is no reason init needs to be a (textual) shell. Except you'd wish it was at 4am when the server won't boot and you need to fix a file etc. But yeah, you'd at least expect it to be able to fork() some kind of sub process. Is not a shell defined by this exact ability (ie fork())? rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. - Finagle's Law -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 40 Years of Unix
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Daniel Pittman wrote: The word shell sometimes refers to any kind of parent or launcher process, so that's where you might hear people refer to GNOME, KDE, progman.exe (on Windows) or dosshell.exe (aptly named) as shells. *nod* The final complexity, to which I referred elsewhere in this thread, is that shells are used to tie together other components in a simple programming system, either interactively or in a batch mode. Even the Solaris svc registry that is the next wave of starting and stopping services or boot run control levels in the end runs all its methods as a collection of shell scripts. The shell will never die - it will just become more extensible. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. - Finagle's Law -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] BBC News: 40 Years of Unix
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Rick Phillips wrote: BBC News is running a front page story about how Unix turns 40 this month. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8205976.stm I think it's pretty amazing to see the 40th birthday of Unix get such high-profile exposure... So do I. Mainly because no one knows what it is or cares, so long as they have the Gates Virus. At 40, UNIX is just getting better, stronger, cheaper, faster, but no one likes to be uncool. If Windows makes 40, it would be a good indication of why the world is in the situation it is today. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. - Finagle's Law -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] BBC News: 40 Years of Unix
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, bill wrote: Speaking of Windows - did anybody watch ABC1's Web Warriors last night? Should be required viewing for the average PC (ie Windows) user. Should be supplied as the default tutorial CD shipped with the products. A warning similar to cigarette advertising should me on the front of every shipped box. The company should be garnished by the the US govt for the damages costs invoked by running MSW. A ban on the products should be enforced by all govt agencies. rachel On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Rick Phillips wrote: BBC News is running a front page story about how Unix turns 40 this month. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8205976.stm I think it's pretty amazing to see the 40th birthday of Unix get such high-profile exposure... So do I. Mainly because no one knows what it is or cares, so long as they have the Gates Virus. At 40, UNIX is just getting better, stronger, cheaper, faster, but no one likes to be uncool. If Windows makes 40, it would be a good indication of why the world is in the situation it is today. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. - Finagle's Law -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Extracting string from a file - shell script
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Peter Chubb wrote: Why use cat? Why not file perl ... The extra process plus pipe just wastes resources. You've been reading too much Randal Schwartz.. ;) http://sial.org/howto/shell/useless-cat/ rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum. - Finagle's Law -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Indexing under Linux
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Jon wrote: I have been asked by the editor of The Indexer -- the academic journal of indexers worldwide -- to write a brief non-technical piece about indexing under Linux; and by 'indexing' here I mean creating the A-Z indexes found at the backs of books and journals. My impression is that there is currently no specific Linux indexing software and no projects going on to create any, but because of the many meanings of 'index' it's hard to search the Web for this conclusively. Does anyone have any information they would like to share on book indexing software projects specifically for Linux, either free or commercial? Respond directly to me if you don't think others will be interested. I will take silence to mean 'No'. Doesn't LaTeX have an indexing routine in it? rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html We are buried beneath the weight of information, which is being confused with knowledge; quantity is being confused with abundance and wealth with happiness. - Tom Waits -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Defining Mainsteam
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Daniel Pittman wrote: quote who=Lindsay Holmwood For all its faults, Linux distros still kick the crap out any other OS when it comes to distributing and applying updates. Now we just have to kick the crap out of the software developers who package binaries linked to specific shared object instances resulting in a package update dependency spiral of doom instead of allowing minor version releases to use existing codebases. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The price of greatness is responsibility. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Any Active Directory LDAP gurus?
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Grant Parnell wrote: I've not really dealt with LDAP much but for the application I'm writing it will need to act as an Active Directory Server at some stage in the future. We have our own database of people and when we set login='Yes' we need to create the user account and apparently a heap of other stuff such that people using Windows workstations can now login to the domain, email, proxy, ... etc with those credentials. I have it already doing the standard unix login with no LDAP. ie /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow. I appreciate that this is a LOT of stuff and there is the possibility of payment to get this done. Haven't run it by the boss yet but from a time perspective it would take me far too long. What I really need to know sooner rather than later is what data I need to store in our postgresql database. IE what the LDAP schema is. We can work out the other bits later. I have done a little research and am now more confused than ever.. Like, I started here... http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms675085(VS.85).aspx Also would be interested in finding other products (open or not) that do this running on Ubuntu Hardy preferably. OpenLDAP Sun JES5 OpenDirectory Are all products that will run on Linux that will do LDAP v3 better than AD ever could.The AD schemas are pretty much setup for MS systems, so you need to ensure that whatever product you install/deploy that it contains the right schemas ie in the case of AD, you would want to extend the schema to include posix objectclass and attributes or you would not be able to store UNIX passwd information properly. Also, if you want to do LDAP-like authentication, perhaps you could use Mysql/Postgres in combination with PAM to create a backend that will provision users for your applications. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The price of greatness is responsibility. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PHP5 and OCI8
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, Mark Walkom wrote: Hi All, Can anyone confirm if the below, taken from phpinfo, is equal to installing this - http://www.oestby.com/doc/php5_oci8.php - by its self? *PDO* PDO supportenabled PDO drivers oci, mysql *PDO_OCI* PDO Driver for OCI 8 and laterenabled It was added by using the php-db package. I'm being told by our developers that they require a specific OCI8 section for their framework (CodeIgniter) to work. OCI8 will be using an Oracle shared object somewhere, to talk to an Oracle Database. So OCI8 will only work if the foundation Oracle shared objects and config files exist, so the pdo module can link to them. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia gr...@zeta.org.auhttp://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The price of greatness is responsibility. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Steve Ballmer live rally Sydney November 6
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008, Gerard Kelly wrote: Make a note in your diary now and be watching at the dawn of a new age of freedom. may I be the first to say ROFLMAO. None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The price of greatness is responsibility. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Keeping wife on linux
Robert Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My wife and I have a shared computer at home, however, I seem to be facing a loosing battle for her experiences with linux to remain pleasant. I am running fedora core 9 with additional packages from the Livna repository Get a Mac. Then either just use OSX for UNIX services and if possible wean her off evilware with dual booting MSW and for yourself, Linux of some stripe or another. Also, set the Mac up with the text/shell based boot sequence, which makes it look more UNIX-y. Then when she is conditioned to the environment, do the bait and switch. Linux is good, but there is no need to ever go near MSW. A Mac is a good middle step. It might be Apple's UNIX, but at least it's UNIX. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The price of greatness is responsibility. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] DST in debain
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008, Simon Males wrote: Make sure your /etc/timezone is actually set to Australia/Sydney. One of my machines did the wrong thing because it was set to 'User defined' -- perhaps the result of an errant upgrade? I've certainly not set it myself. Anyway, that might be the problem... sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata Same happened to me this morning on my Debian Lenny desktop. On boot I sync with time.optusnet.com.au, which brought me back an hour. Then I used GNOME's gui magic time zone selecter to actually set Australia/Sydney. Whatever happened to doing: ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/ Getting the latest tzdata file and running zic/zdump on it?! Guess that is what UNIX admins do. -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The price of greatness is responsibility. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [LINK] Is SLUG down?
Hi everyone, Some of the root nameservers in the US were the victims of some sort of attack the past 48 hours. This is causing several DNS caches around the world to become polluted and all sorts of name/addr problems are arising as a result. For example some well known DNS names are not visible at my workplace (via AARNET) but are perfectly visible via my ISP. I suspect some people are getting the names and others are not. The Internet is a wonderful, fickle and fragile thing. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Perl BerkeleyDB install probs
: make NO -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Apache2 authconfig help, please?
Hi sluggers, apologies for asking such a question here, but I cannot find an answer online. I am tweaking the authorisation/access to a set of directories on an apache2 server: Assuming I have an Apache Directory: Directory /path/to/app/myapp Satisfy Any AllowOverride AuthConfig Order deny,allow Deny From all Allow from my.com.au (LDAP stuff goes here) /Directory Now the above works fine with the Satisfy Any directive and I get the result I want. But now I want to have a Second directory under the first, that I want to reset all the directives for: Directory /path/to/app/myapp/others AllowOverride AuthConfig /Directory And there is a .htaccess .htpasswd file in this second sub directory. When we take the Satisify directive out of the first Dir, the second then presents with the passwd popup as required. Can anyone please explain how to reset the directives for a sub directory. I know all the options get inherited, but there must be a way to also uninherit? Anyone? Thanks heaps. -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fwd: Club history
On Mon, 29 May 2006, Terry Collins wrote: I had the impression that it had been going for a year or so beforehand. Aps to anyone I don't remember. I've been a SLUG member since about late 1994 or early 1995. That is to say, I have been on the original mailing list since that time but don't go in for the organised comittees and all that guff. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Who looks after your stack?
Hi, Please help me with a debate Who looks after your stack of software - such as in a typical LAMP environment? I propose that in most cases, it's been the UNIX admins who put together the systems then install and basically configure the apps that make up the suite of apps that can be called an Information System such as a httpd, php/perl plus SSL/TLS and a databases such as Mysql or Postgres. Of course there are also support shared objects and so on to consider as well. They maintain all this when there is an upgrade required or if a new feature needs to be added. How are you all doing this? Do you build the system and give it away to the web developers so they can download nasty binaries that may or may not integrate well together, or do they get a system that has the httpd and so on locally compiled with site specific options? Or do you give the Oracle DBA's your Postgres or Mysql to install, grant and deploy apps in, with the web devs only doing PHP scripts and similar? Or have you got a UNIX systems programmer who designs the archictecture, build standard and methods to compile the binaries and localise them and looks after periodic code refreshes each time PHP gets another cross-site vulnerability or if mod_auth_ldap needs the mem cache option and so on? Where do you draw the line? - Who looks after the httpd.conf and who looks after the httpd and who looks after it's compilation? Who looks after your stack? Inquiring minds want to know. Discuss. -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: [LINK] Re: Heads Up - troubles with time zones
All our Solaris boxes at work updated fine, after installing the appropriate patches and rebooting. The Solaris 2.6 an earlier systems needed the tzdata downloaded from elsie, with zic run against them. My Mac at home didn't update properly - stupid Apple didn't even attempt to make a patch in spite of a few security updates last few months. I had to download the tzdata from elsie and run zic - but although UNIX date command shows the correct time, the stupid desktop clock still runs like Daylight Saving time has already ended. I use a local timeserver for my Mac, but it makes no difference. Even Microsoft addressed this problem except I think you have to update the tz again after next week I am so annoyed at the whole Daylight Saving thing in any case. It is a pointless exercise and it doesn't save anything and just causes chaos for people like myself with carefully fine tuned circadian rhythms ;) rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
I struggle with the notion that so many people who theoretically have such great intellect fail miserably in understanding the notion of sarcasm or hyperbole. For a bunch of smart people, you sure are pretty stupid. So keen to twist issues based upon gender or maturity, you seem to lack any common sense. Perhaps its not comments like mine (which are wholly indicative of exactly what sort of person I am, of course) which necessitate groups like LC. Perhaps its an excessive inferiority complex. Do you even remember what you are so incensed about? Did I offend your sensibilities as a woman? I apologise. This was never my intent. Do I regret my childish and immature comments? Not for a second. Maybe, just maybe, it's not me who needs to grow up. Hey, I don't care one way or the other. I've seen/heard things that would even make the most hedonistic or free thinking type shudder. I was just making an observation based on experience working in mostly male environments. In general these things don't really worry me at all mostly because I *don't* have an inferiority complex. I, too, have quite a sense of humour and can identify true sarcasm, irony and wit very quickly, some things your post was lacking. rachel - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Restaurant Suggestion
quote who=Tony Green I'd be happy to visit there and (as I know the owners quite well) I'm sure I could work something out for a trial visit post SLUG one month - if I can get some firm numbers. Can we do it for this month? :) (I just had to buy into this as I love Indian food ;) If I can ever get to another SLUG meeting, I'd go there too! Mind you, Indian food is VERY fattening (especially if you go for butter chicken) in the meat dishes but that said, it's also VERY delicious ;) rachel (cooking up a chicken Jalferazi for dinner tonight and all) - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] (OT) M$ Dirt
Hi All, Yesterday I had a friend really get stuck into me regarding Linux v Microsoft. I am curious does anyone know of a web page or web pages which spell out some of the questionable practices of Micosoft over the years. I have already seen www.mslinux.com , but I need something a little more factual. Netaction is the place I direct people to. http://www.netaction.org/msoft/ and more recently... http://www.netaction.org/msoft/winfish2.html rachel - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Help with RHL-6.2 IBM x340 eserver
Hi Sluggers, I am trying to install an IBM eserver x330/x340 with the ServerRAID driver. I am having problems putting together a driver disk for Redhat 6.2, in spite of having support for the machine. I built a kickstart floppy but I do not have the drivers installed correctly (I think). The problem is, I followed some guides on the net, to modify the boot floppy initrd.img file. I added the drivers I needed, edited modinfo and pcitable and repacked the .img file. When I boot off this floppy, the ramdisk loads Ok, but I cannot seem to get the drivers to load - I get a message: trying to insmod ips.o (Path is NULL) or similar. I suspect it is something to do with the way I have recreated the ramdisk image. What I am asking is: 1) can someone please point me to the correct way to build a boot floppy/initrd.img file? Yes, I read the kickstart Howto, and pursued the cpio commands but I think there's something wrong with my cpio image. 2) can someone just send me a 6.2 Ramdisk initrd.img file that already has the ips.o and module for the Intel etherexpress pro 10/100 NIC? 3) a 6.2 boot floppy that will work with an x330/x340 server? - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Help with RHL-6.2 IBM x340 eserver
Hi Sluggers, I am trying to install an IBM eserver x330/x340 with the ServerRAID driver. I am having problems putting together a driver disk for Redhat 6.2, in spite of having support for the machine. I built a kickstart floppy but I do not have the drivers installed correctly (I think). The problem is, I followed some guides on the net, to modify the boot floppy initrd.img file. I added the drivers I needed, edited modinfo and pcitable and repacked the .img file. When I boot off this floppy, the ramdisk loads Ok, but I cannot seem to get the drivers to load - I get a message: trying to insmod ips.o (Path is NULL) or similar. I suspect it is something to do with the way I have recreated the ramdisk image. What I am asking is: 1) can someone please point me to the correct way to build a boot floppy/initrd.img file? Yes, I read the kickstart Howto, and pursued the cpio commands but I think there's something wrong with my cpio image. 2) can someone just send me a 6.2 Ramdisk initrd.img file that already has the ips.o and module for the Intel etherexpress pro 10/100 NIC? 3) a 6.2 boot floppy that will work with an x330/x340 server? thanks! rachel - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Hardware Theft
Take a look at http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/23664.html - OK, it's the UK, but makes you wonder how many of OUR Government computers have suffered the same fate ? I know of one machine that was taken, the theif reaching in through an OPEN WINDOW, from Mascot Police Station, that contained a database of known criminals (and I *don't* mean Windows users !!) in the area. Hey, YOU voted for them !!! The Federal Liberal is just as bad.. I heard on the radio this morning that over 500 laptops went missing from the ATO, the Defense Dept, Health and and DFAT. No one knows what was on the disks or if it is readable. Darryl Williams (AG) said that the laptops had a password encryption feature. I guess it was probably the windoze user passwd rachel - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: just like the old days ...
It would be much more appropriate to use the M$ BSOD as a screen saver. I think that one comes standard with some Linux distros. Then that would really freak out the M$ account manager - Do they really have so many BSODs? Should I make a comment or not? Back when I worked at UWS, we (the UNIX admins) installed a BSOD screen saver on an NT file server as a joke. The NT admin spotted it (after about a week) and panicked - he rebooted the machine at least twice before realising what was going on. I also used to run the BSOD on my Sun there too, which used to confuse the hell out of the windoze weenies as well. There is absolutely no way that an MS marketing organism would ever find it's way into my data centre, BTW. The fact that they would even anticipate having access is a little odious too. We didn't even let the Sun bods in there half the time without constant supervision. I would certainly not leave an MS one alone in there - they'd be pulling the cables out of everything/rebooting and then blaming it on the competition rachel - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
