Re: [SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions

2008-05-29 Thread Peter Hardy

Hey hey.

Alex Samad wrote:

I am looking at putting together a file server for the house. looking
for a case that would support 4 (or 6) drives, the motherboard needs to
have 4-6 sata connectors (and maybe 2 esata connectors on the outside
and a gig eth (2 would be good), I am presuming a 400-500w power supply


Have you considered picking up a NAS appliance instead of trying to 
build up a PC? I've just added a D-Link DNS-323 to my network, which 
apart from only housing two drives meets most of your requirements. It's 
much smaller and more attractive than a PC case, and the only time I 
hear it is when it spins up the drives from idle.


There are four drive boxes around, and the vast majority of them run 
Linux under the hood and are moderately easy to hack around with.



The other requirement is has to be very quiet ( and no lights on the
case).


If you do end up building your own, who says you need to connect any of 
the LEDs? :-P


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Re: [SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions

2008-05-29 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 05:11:42PM +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:
 Hey hey.

 Alex Samad wrote:
 I am looking at putting together a file server for the house. looking
 for a case that would support 4 (or 6) drives, the motherboard needs to
 have 4-6 sata connectors (and maybe 2 esata connectors on the outside
 and a gig eth (2 would be good), I am presuming a 400-500w power supply

 Have you considered picking up a NAS appliance instead of trying to  
 build up a PC? I've just added a D-Link DNS-323 to my network, which  
 apart from only housing two drives meets most of your requirements. It's  
 much smaller and more attractive than a PC case, and the only time I  
 hear it is when it spins up the drives from idle.
I need space for 4 drives, my current server have space for 2 and 3
respectively

I was thinking of using my asus 500Gp with openwrt on it but I would
like to have a Gig eth port


 There are four drive boxes around, and the vast majority of them run  
 Linux under the hood and are moderately easy to hack around with.

Yeah I thought I could build one cheaper but maybe not


 The other requirement is has to be very quiet ( and no lights on the
 case).

 If you do end up building your own, who says you need to connect any of  
 the LEDs? :-P

true


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Re: [SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions

2008-05-29 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 09:08:10AM +0800, jam wrote:
 On Thursday 29 May 2008 08:38:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am looking at putting together a file server for the house. looking
  for a case that would support 4 (or 6) drives, the motherboard needs to
  have 4-6 sata connectors (and maybe 2 esata connectors on the outside
  and a gig eth (2 would be good), I am presuming a 400-500w power supply
 
  The other requirement is has to be very quiet ( and no lights on the
  case).
 
  I have been looking at fuildtek (http://fluidtek.com.au/) they have
  thermaltake rs wing case's, thinking of a cheap E2180 (down the page a
  bit), I don't need much grunt, all it will be doing it running nfs
 
 
  any thoughts ?
 
 Yes, you are deluded :-)
 
 6 disks are NOISY no matter what.
 I use an ELX mini ITX box with a single WD 750G drive. Dead quiet and nice.
 
 The Antec NSK 1380 is just about in-audible at 1 meter and can take 2 disks 
 if 
 you fiddle and a uATX motherboard. (I use an AMD BE2300) which has grunt but 
 is silent and cool (sustained about 35W for the whole system, Gigabyte + 2G 
 +160G, - on the meter per 24 hours. The single police-strobe-blue is 
 unpluggable, whereupon the box is dark.

I currently have a shuttle SN25P, with 3 drives (2x1T + 1x500g), I can't
really hear it, except when the cdrom drive is going or the ambient temp
is high

 
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[SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions

2008-05-28 Thread Alex Samad
Hi

I am looking at putting together a file server for the house. looking
for a case that would support 4 (or 6) drives, the motherboard needs to
have 4-6 sata connectors (and maybe 2 esata connectors on the outside
and a gig eth (2 would be good), I am presuming a 400-500w power supply

The other requirement is has to be very quiet ( and no lights on the
case).

I have been looking at fuildtek (http://fluidtek.com.au/) they have
thermaltake rs wing case's, thinking of a cheap E2180 (down the page a
bit), I don't need much grunt, all it will be doing it running nfs


any thoughts ?


Alex
its sort of OT, but I am guessing most people on the list have gone /
are going through this

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions

2008-05-28 Thread david
On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 20:14 +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am looking at putting together a file server for the house. looking
 for a case that would support 4 (or 6) drives, the motherboard needs to
 have 4-6 sata connectors (and maybe 2 esata connectors on the outside
 and a gig eth (2 would be good), I am presuming a 400-500w power supply
 
 The other requirement is has to be very quiet ( and no lights on the
 case).
 
 I have been looking at fuildtek (http://fluidtek.com.au/) they have
 thermaltake rs wing case's, thinking of a cheap E2180 (down the page a
 bit), I don't need much grunt, all it will be doing it running nfs
 
 
 any thoughts ?
 
 
 Alex
 its sort of OT, but I am guessing most people on the list have gone /
 are going through this

I'm going through exactly this process right now.. where silence is
really important.. at this point the case of choice is an Antec P182,
based on reviews. I'm interested to hear other people's thoughts too.

They aren't the cheapest.

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions

2008-05-28 Thread Amos Shapira
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:57 AM, david [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm going through exactly this process right now.. where silence is
 really important.. at this point the case of choice is an Antec P182,
 based on reviews. I'm interested to hear other people's thoughts too.

 They aren't the cheapest.


I have absolutely no practical experience in this area, but from what I
understood from overhearing conversations in that area I'd look at fanless
boxes first.
They might also be less power hungry.
Googling for fanless linux box seems to turn up relevant links.

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] fileserver suggestions

2008-05-28 Thread jam
On Thursday 29 May 2008 08:38:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am looking at putting together a file server for the house. looking
 for a case that would support 4 (or 6) drives, the motherboard needs to
 have 4-6 sata connectors (and maybe 2 esata connectors on the outside
 and a gig eth (2 would be good), I am presuming a 400-500w power supply

 The other requirement is has to be very quiet ( and no lights on the
 case).

 I have been looking at fuildtek (http://fluidtek.com.au/) they have
 thermaltake rs wing case's, thinking of a cheap E2180 (down the page a
 bit), I don't need much grunt, all it will be doing it running nfs


 any thoughts ?

Yes, you are deluded :-)

6 disks are NOISY no matter what.
I use an ELX mini ITX box with a single WD 750G drive. Dead quiet and nice.

The Antec NSK 1380 is just about in-audible at 1 meter and can take 2 disks if 
you fiddle and a uATX motherboard. (I use an AMD BE2300) which has grunt but 
is silent and cool (sustained about 35W for the whole system, Gigabyte + 2G 
+160G, - on the meter per 24 hours. The single police-strobe-blue is 
unpluggable, whereupon the box is dark.

James
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