Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:14:35 AM gonzo01 wrote: I'm using Linux Mint 10.0 64 bit with a Billion ADSL 2+ modem/router on a gigabit network ( modem/router has Gigabit ports). Recently my ISP upgraded my plan from 1500/256 to 8000/354. My download speed has gone from around 150 KiBs to around 250 KiBs. the Modem stats show Upstream 384 Downstream 2368 SNR upstream 6.0 SNR Downstream 5.9 Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Ping ( according to Optus Speedtest) = 45 ms Are these figures reasonable? 2368 downstream is around a 60% increase but is at the bottom end of the range according to Optus Speedtest. Is there anything I can check/do to increase downstream speed? Havent found anything usefull by Googling. I'm aware that distance from exchange and quality of line isimportant. Thanks hi Gonzo01 My spped is also 8000 down and 384 up, but I get 1000-1200Kbyes a sec d/l You may need to upgrade your router bios. Gerald 0 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
Silicon Chip mag this month suggests some ADSL routers are line-polarity sensitive. Try swapping around the incoming phone wires to see. Kevin On 10/05/2011 3:27 PM, GeraldCC gcsgcatl...@bigpond.com wrote: On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:14:35 AM gonzo01 wrote: I'm using Linux Mint 10.0 64 bit with a Billion ADSL 2+ modem/router on a gigabit network ( modem/router has Gigabit ports). Recently my ISP upgraded my plan from 1500/256 to 8000/354. My download speed has gone from around 150 KiBs to around 250 KiBs. the Modem stats show Upstream 384 Downstream 2368 SNR upstream 6.0 SNR Downstream 5.9 Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Ping ( according to Optus Speedtest) = 45 ms Are these figures reasonable? 2368 downstream is around a 60% increase but is at the bottom end of the range according to Optus Speedtest. Is there anything I can check/do to increase downstream speed? Havent found anything usefull by Googling. I'm aware that distance from exchange and quality of line isimportant. Thanks hi Gonzo01 My spped is also 8000 down and 384 up, but I get 1000-1200Kbyes a sec d/l You may need to upgrade your router bios. Gerald 0 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:14:35 AM gonzo01 wrote: I'm using Linux Mint 10.0 64 bit with a Billion ADSL 2+ modem/router on a gigabit network ( modem/router has Gigabit ports). Recently my ISP upgraded my plan from 1500/256 to 8000/354. My download speed has gone from around 150 KiBs to around 250 KiBs. the Modem stats show Upstream 384 Downstream 2368 SNR upstream 6.0 SNR Downstream 5.9 Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Ping ( according to Optus Speedtest) = 45 ms Are these figures reasonable? 2368 downstream is around a 60% increase but is at the bottom end of the range according to Optus Speedtest. It's worth checking out http://www.tpg.com.au/maps/ TPG have provided a Google maps mashup which has data from their customers. Gives you a pretty good idea of what sort of speeds you can expect in your area compared to what TPG customers are getting. Cheers, John -- John Blog http://www.inodes.org LCA2012 http://lcaunderthestars.org.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
Hey mate, gonzo01 said: Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Are these figures reasonable? They may be reasonable for your distance from the exchange. Either way, 44 dB attenuation is not my idea of fun whether it’s able to be improved or not. Havent found anything usefull by Googling. I generally find the Whirlpool community to be most knowledgeable and helpful regarding ADSL. In particular this Whirlpool wiki page has some good links to get you educated: http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/dslam_speeds Is there anything I can check/do to increase downstream speed? Apart from moving closer to the exchange? Standard rules apply: make sure the phone line going from the modem to the wall is as short as possible. If you have a fax machine, try temporarily disconnecting that. If you use an ADSL splitter, try bypassing that to see if it’s lowering your sync. Apart from that, there’s not a lot you can do. In extreme cases, the only solution is physically shortening the line — i.e. getting connected to a RIM. [0] Although that’s not suitable for all cases. [1][2] The other thing is to check for crackling on the phone line. If you don’t hear anything, call someone else and ask if they can hear anything (from experience, it can sometimes be heard only one way). Do you get dropouts at all? Most modems will show you how long the line has been connected for. If you leave your modem switched on for 24 hours, and you check the stats but the Internet has only been on for 30 minutes (and the “always on” setting is ticked), then you’re experiencing dropouts and that should definitely be followed up as a fault with your ISP. Cheers, Jeremy. -- [0] A RIM is basically a mini exchange that is usually closer to your house than the exchange. [1] If you are using an ISP that has connected you directly to their exchange, then moving to a RIM may NOT be what you want to do, as they would charge you more for the service by needing to go via Telstra Wholesale. [2] I work for an ISP that mainly services an area where only Telstra Wholesale ADSL is available, so moving to RIMs is not a problem for my customers. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
On Wed, May 11, 2011 2:00 am, Jeremy Visser wrote: gonzo01 said: Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Are these figures reasonable? Bigpond ADSL, I'm just outside the 1.5k exchange inner band TPG page says: Line of sight: 1630m. Possible cable dist.: 2295m. I get: DSL Connection Details DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair) Protocol: G.DMT2 Annex A Downstream Rate:5630 kbps Upstream Rate: 747 kbps Channel:Interleaved Current Noise Margin: 12.5 dB (Downstream) 16.5 dB (Upstream) Current Attenuation:40.7 dB (Downstream) 22.3 dB (Upstream) Current Output Power: 19.3 dBm (Downstream) 11.9 dBm (Upstream) does that look reasonable ? it all seems to work OK, no real problems Question: I use a 5 metre extension cord from wall subsocket to ADSL, and, the phone sockets is perhaps 15 metres from Telstra 'sub' MDF I've been tempted to hook up a (parallel) phone wire off the MDF to a dedicated wall socket for ADSL so, replace existing 15? meteres old wiring + 3 meters to subsocket off original T socket+ 5 metre extension with 4 meter dedicate ADSL socket from MDF is it worth the effort, will I see real improvement? (or just a warm fuzzy feeling that's it's done properly?) -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
Yes your lead from socket to Adam is a huge problem. Removing a lead like that made a huge difference for me Ken Foskey On 11/05/2011, at 7:13 AM, Voytek Eymont li...@sbt.net.au wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 2:00 am, Jeremy Visser wrote: gonzo01 said: Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Are these figures reasonable? Bigpond ADSL, I'm just outside the 1.5k exchange inner band TPG page says: Line of sight: 1630m. Possible cable dist.: 2295m. I get: DSL Connection Details DSL Line (Wire Pair):Line 1 (inner pair) Protocol:G.DMT2 Annex A Downstream Rate:5630 kbps Upstream Rate:747 kbps Channel:Interleaved Current Noise Margin:12.5 dB (Downstream) 16.5 dB (Upstream) Current Attenuation:40.7 dB (Downstream) 22.3 dB (Upstream) Current Output Power:19.3 dBm (Downstream) 11.9 dBm (Upstream) does that look reasonable ? it all seems to work OK, no real problems Question: I use a 5 metre extension cord from wall subsocket to ADSL, and, the phone sockets is perhaps 15 metres from Telstra 'sub' MDF I've been tempted to hook up a (parallel) phone wire off the MDF to a dedicated wall socket for ADSL so, replace existing 15? meteres old wiring + 3 meters to subsocket off original T socket+ 5 metre extension with 4 meter dedicate ADSL socket from MDF is it worth the effort, will I see real improvement? (or just a warm fuzzy feeling that's it's done properly?) -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
On Wed, May 11, 2011 8:59 am, Ken Foskey wrote: Yes your lead from socket to Adam is a huge problem. Removing a lead like that made a huge difference for me Ken, I'll proceed with that as soon as I can find few metres of Telstra wire OK, another dumb Q: I have like streetMDF-subMDFTsocket wiring is maybe 30/40 years old recently we had a brand new 25 pair added between the MDFs, there is now two cables: MDF==25metres===subMDF is it worth the effort to transfer my line between MDF to subMDF from 'old' cable to a pair on the brand new 25 pair cable ? (things people will do...) -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
I'm using Linux Mint 10.0 64 bit with a Billion ADSL 2+ modem/router on a gigabit network ( modem/router has Gigabit ports). Recently my ISP upgraded my plan from 1500/256 to 8000/354. My download speed has gone from around 150 KiBs to around 250 KiBs. the Modem stats show Upstream 384 Downstream 2368 SNR upstream 6.0 SNR Downstream 5.9 Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Ping ( according to Optus Speedtest) = 45 ms Are these figures reasonable? 2368 downstream is around a 60% increase but is at the bottom end of the range according to Optus Speedtest. Is there anything I can check/do to increase downstream speed? Havent found anything usefull by Googling. I'm aware that distance from exchange and quality of line isimportant. Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:14 AM, gonzo01 gonz...@fastmail.fm wrote: I'm using Linux Mint 10.0 64 bit with a Billion ADSL 2+ modem/router on a gigabit network ( modem/router has Gigabit ports). Recently my ISP upgraded my plan from 1500/256 to 8000/354. My download speed has gone from around 150 KiBs to around 250 KiBs. the Modem stats show Upstream 384 Downstream 2368 SNR upstream 6.0 SNR Downstream 5.9 Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Ping ( according to Optus Speedtest) = 45 ms Are these figures reasonable? 2368 downstream is around a 60% increase but is at the bottom end of the range according to Optus Speedtest. Is there anything I can check/do to increase downstream speed? Havent found anything usefull by Googling. I'm aware that distance from exchange and quality of line isimportant. Depends how far you are from the exchange, as you've said. Hit the following web site http://www.adsl2exchanges.com.au and type your address into the Address lookup box on the left of the screen. I've found the estimates provided by this site to be reasonably accurate (plus or minus about 10%). If the suggested rate varies more than that from what you're seeing, you can try the following. 1) Remove ALL extension cables from your phone socket to your modem - get the line connection from your modem on as short a piece of cable as you can before it plugs into the actual modem. 2) Pay someone to re-terminate your phone socket from the boundary point - usually in the street - with new cable and socket. 3) Make sure your modem has the latest possible working firmware on it. 4) Call your ISP and see if they can help. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Glen Turner wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 17:43 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: Pete, who measures his traffic in gross nybbles to reduce confusion. Is that 4-bit IBM nybbles or 6-bit DEC nybbles? he he he 6-bit DEC nybbles? never. cheers rickw -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services || Internet Driving Instructor A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but can't afford an air force. -- William Blum -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 05:43:56PM +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: I call shenanigans! On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 16:22 +1100, Matthew Hannigan wrote: Don't stop there! You probably mean bits not b(ytes) and mebi not mega, so it's 108 Mibit/s 1) It's mibi not mebi. I don't think so Mister! Your url disagrees with you! So there and also: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html 2) The same standard that defines mibi- as a prefix (IEEE 1541 [1]) specifies that b is the symbol for bits, and B should be used for bytes. In practical use, though, I tend to see either bits or B. -- Pete, who measures his traffic in gross nybbles to reduce confusion. per ..? fortnight? Who actually uses these prefixes in real actual speech? Not me, I'd feel a right wally. [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too I have avoided D-Link hardware for about five years now. My experiences back then included failure-prone products, long telephone tech support queues (4 hours plus, I kid you not!), IE-only Web interfaces, and a tonne of other things that I can't think of at this time of night. I have no idea of how they are now, but they would have had to have improved immensely to be even half-decent in my book. -- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Try TP-Link ADSL 2+ Modem http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=111 It's cheap but you need to use an atheros superG cards on the client side to use the proprietary 108mb wifi but it's compatible with B and G and works like a charm in firefox and has bridging On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 08:43:44AM +1100, Morgan Storey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. I do not think that the dsl-502T is made for more then the simple stuff, i.e. as a bridge, however for this its rock solid! I am away from the exchange about 3.5Km and the downloads are about 720kb/s(steady). I had to turn it off yesterday morning as I did some phone cable re-routing, but this is what the modem reports just now (yes this is 1.3 GB since 14.00 yesterday) Rx PDU's 1019840 Rx Total Bytes 1358496516 Rx Total Error Counts 1727 AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest Oh yes: [root ~] #telnet XX.XX.XX.XX Trying XX.XX.XX.XX... Connected to XX.XX.XX.XX Escape character is '^]'. BusyBox on (none) login: XX Password: BusyBox v0.61.pre (2007.11.02-05:10+) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. # firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. I have no problem running firefox (we do not use IE, its blocked at the firewall) This modem has another cool feature. It is impossible to get to any modem in bridge mode without having a second interface, this one has an ethernet AND usb port, so what I did as my setup is (on the LINUX router): eth2: USB based virtual network card that is connected to the USB port of the DSL-502T eth1: INTERNAL LAN facing network eth0: BRIDGE based nework card used for ppp that is connected to the eth port of the dsl-502T ppp0: my WAN based IP address. I do not need a fancy modem, as the linux router does what I need much better/faster although I have to admit that because of the busy box on the 502T its getting close. But on the router I have some fancy cpus ... Jobst On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk. | |0| | Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], General Manager | | |0| Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L |0|0|0| +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 09:52:21AM +1100, xorprime ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Try TP-Link ADSL 2+ Modem http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=111 It's cheap but you need to use an atheros superG cards on the client side to use the proprietary 108mb wifi but it's compatible with B and G and works like a charm in firefox and has bridging So it isn't cheap anymore, isnt it? When I look around through my spare parts I have so many nice/good 100mb ethernet cards lying around and thats enough for all ADSL connections I know of. Jobst On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn lies, and statistics. - Disraeli | |0| | Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], General Manager | | |0| Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L |0|0|0| +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:52 +1100, xorprime wrote: 108mb wifi units-pedant-mode Wow, 0.108 bits per second, isn't that a bit slow? I thought only military submarines used that? Perhaps you meant 108Mb/s. /units-pedant-mode Regards Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\/\*http://miller.emu.id.au/pmiller/ PGP public key ID: 1024D/D0EDB64D fingerprint = AD0A C5DF C426 4F03 5D53 2BDB 18D8 A4E2 D0ED B64D See http://www.keyserver.net or any PGP keyserver for public key. Real Programmers' programs never work right the first time. But if you throw them on the machine they can be patched into working in 'only a few' 30-hour debugging sessions. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Oh well, make it Mb/s then ;-) On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:52 +1100, xorprime wrote: 108mb wifi units-pedant-mode Wow, 0.108 bits per second, isn't that a bit slow? I thought only military submarines used that? Perhaps you meant 108Mb/s. /units-pedant-mode -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Don't stop there! You probably mean bits not b(ytes) and mebi not mega, so it's 108 Mibit/s See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 12:50:54PM +1100, xorprime wrote: Oh well, make it Mb/s then ;-) On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:52 +1100, xorprime wrote: 108mb wifi units-pedant-mode Wow, 0.108 bits per second, isn't that a bit slow? I thought only military submarines used that? Perhaps you meant 108Mb/s. /units-pedant-mode -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 09:42 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. I use one of those, in bridging mode. Happy apart from no Annex M support (for increased uplink speeds). -- Glen Turner http://www.gdt.id.au/~gdt/ 0416 295 857 or +61 416 295 857 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
I call shenanigans! On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 16:22 +1100, Matthew Hannigan wrote: Don't stop there! You probably mean bits not b(ytes) and mebi not mega, so it's 108 Mibit/s 1) It's mibi not mebi. 2) The same standard that defines mibi- as a prefix (IEEE 1541 [1]) specifies that b is the symbol for bits, and B should be used for bytes. In practical use, though, I tend to see either bits or B. -- Pete, who measures his traffic in gross nybbles to reduce confusion. [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Hi all, I've been banging my head against my adsl modem and I wondering if it might not just be easier/cheaper to replace it with something better. Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. Cheers, Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Fifty years of programming language research, and we end up with C++ ??? --Richard A. O'Keefe -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On 28/02/2008, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been banging my head against my adsl modem and I wondering if it might not just be easier/cheaper to replace it with something better. Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I've been using a Thompson SpeedTouch 536 in straight bridge mode in front of a WRT54GL (OpenWrt) with the WRT handling the pppoe dialing but your modem should handle it in bridge mode OK. When you switch to bridge mode you usually lose administrative access to the modem. I haven't played with half bridging so not much help there. This is with Bigpong and it needs the pppoe username and password. You could try seeing if it works in gateway? mode before switching to bridge? With this modem in gateway mode it has a fairly good CLI. Tony -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL modem and half bridge mode
Hi all, I'm trying to set up my adsl modem in half bridge mode and its almost working. The problem is that when it comes up it doesn't set the default route. I have successfully set it manually, but I can't figure out how to make if automatic. Anyone have any clues? Cheers, Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - The very definition of hell is having to maintain someone else's Perl code. -- Anonymous -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem and half bridge mode
Is this the Linksys AM300? I found it a big buggy in this mode. Not sure what the problem is, but it doesn't work every time for some reason. Make sure you have the latest firmware. We have given up on half-bridge mode with many of these modems. dave Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to set up my adsl modem in half bridge mode and its almost working. The problem is that when it comes up it doesn't set the default route. I have successfully set it manually, but I can't figure out how to make if automatic. Anyone have any clues? Cheers, Erik -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem and half bridge mode
Excerpts from Erik de Castro Lopo's message of Thu Feb 28 00:13:17 +1100 2008: Hi all, I'm trying to set up my adsl modem in half bridge mode and its almost working. The problem is that when it comes up it doesn't set the default route. I have successfully set it manually, but I can't figure out how to make if automatic. Firmware upgrade. rgh Anyone have any clues? Cheers, Erik -- You're worried criminals will continue to penetrate into cyberspace, and I'm worried complexity, poor design and mismanagement will be there to meet them - Marcus Ranum !DSPAM:47c5dbb6117611990117984! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ADSL - UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD
I'm looking for one unlimited and unshaped ADSL plan, and I found these: Unlimited and unshaped -- you're dreaming. I think ADSL2+ is cheaper than ADSL because the ISPs opt to install their own DSLAM on top of Telstra stuff. 1. http://oznet.net.au/oznet/dsl/adsl.home.htm and thenADSL Home Price 2. http://www.shiftreload.com.au/internet-access-pricing.asp the best option would be ADSL 512-UL They are very uncompetitive plans. I don't know how they can do business at those rates. Must be some guy doing it as a hobby. I wonder if these companies, which are very cheap compared to the mainstream as Telstra, offer a reliable service. The mainstream ISPs I'm aware of are TPG, Telstra Bigpond, Optus Cable and iinet. IMO stick with mainstream. They're cheaper. Could anyone tell me something more (bad and good experiences) than what is on their webpages? I use TPG ADSL2+. I'm about 5-8 kms from a DSLAM, so I get about 2 mbits out of the theoretical 20 mbit speed. For $59.99 you get 50 gigs (30 gb peak, 20 gb offpeak). No game servers, no mirrors. Shaped to 64 kbits. For $69.99 you get 150 gigs (40 gb peak, 110 gb offpeak). I'm on an old plan ($59.99, 30 gb, shaped 128 kbits). I prefer staying on this as I need faster shaped speeds. And all my internet usage is during peak hours anyway. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL - UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD
On Nov 2, 2007 11:19 AM, Antonio Cosimo Costantino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody! My Australian (digital) life is in danger... I have to change ISP!!! ahah!!! I'm looking for one unlimited and unshaped ADSL plan, and I found these: 1. http://oznet.net.au/oznet/dsl/adsl.home.htm and thenADSL Home Price 2. http://www.shiftreload.com.au/internet-access-pricing.asp the best option would be ADSL 512-UL I wouldn't trust any company offering truly unlimited plans - except Internode, who offer Business 256, 512 and 1.5Mbps plans with unrestricted download and capped excess charges - but you're not going to want to pay that much. If you want cheap and lots of data, TPG is probably worth a shot. If you're on an iiNet exchange they're reasonably good value. Depending on what you're downloading, iiNet and Internode both have large mirrors of free content. Internode has the largest free content mirror I know of. I use iiNet on the 40Gpeak/40G off peak ADSL2+ plan and I synch at about 14Mbps so I can download my quota in 2 days :-( As has been suggested, Whirlpool is the place to go for information. You may find the results of the most recent yearly survey interesting: http://whirlpool.net.au/survey/2006/ Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL - UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD
On 11/2/07, Antonio Cosimo Costantino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody! My Australian (digital) life is in danger... I have to change ISP!!! ahah!!! I'm looking for one unlimited and unshaped ADSL plan, and I found these: 1. http://oznet.net.au/oznet/dsl/adsl.home.htm and thenADSL Home Price 2. http://www.shiftreload.com.au/internet-access-pricing.asp the best option would be ADSL 512-UL I wonder if these companies, which are very cheap compared to the mainstream as Telstra, offer a reliable service. Could anyone tell me something more (bad and good experiences) than what is on their webpages? You won't find an unlimited and unshaped DSL plan anywhere in Australia. You'll either get one or the other. As for the two you've highlighted above - I have two words for you - rip and off. $65 a month for a 500 meg download allowance at 256/64 from one, and $34 a month for 1 gig a month at 256/64 from the other? I pay $70 a month for 60 gig a month of download allowance at ADSL2+ speeds. I suggest you head here http://bc.whirlpool.net.au Type in your phone number, and search plans from there. You can get way better deals than either of the places you've quoted - both faster *and* cheaper. If you're lucky enough to be on an ADSL2+ enabled exchange, you can get *much* faster. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL - UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD
Hi everybody! My Australian (digital) life is in danger... I have to change ISP!!! ahah!!! I'm looking for one unlimited and unshaped ADSL plan, and I found these: 1. http://oznet.net.au/oznet/dsl/adsl.home.htm and thenADSL Home Price 2. http://www.shiftreload.com.au/internet-access-pricing.asp the best option would be ADSL 512-UL I wonder if these companies, which are very cheap compared to the mainstream as Telstra, offer a reliable service. Could anyone tell me something more (bad and good experiences) than what is on their webpages? ciao ciao Antonio -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL - UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD
check out whirlpool.net.au for those sort of questions Dean On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:19:11 +1100, Antonio Cosimo Costantino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody! My Australian (digital) life is in danger... I have to change ISP!!! ahah!!! I'm looking for one unlimited and unshaped ADSL plan, and I found these: 1. http://oznet.net.au/oznet/dsl/adsl.home.htm and thenADSL Home Price 2. http://www.shiftreload.com.au/internet-access-pricing.asp the best option would be ADSL 512-UL I wonder if these companies, which are very cheap compared to the mainstream as Telstra, offer a reliable service. Could anyone tell me something more (bad and good experiences) than what is on their webpages? ciao ciao Antonio -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL Migration from layer 3 to layer 2 with subnet
Hey Guys, Internode will be shortly migrating our adsl from layer 3 to layer 2 pppoe. I've done pppoe before, so thats not a problem, but we have a 5 ip subnet. I'm curious to how I configure the server. (Internode have said we get a new ip address for pppoe, but keep the subnet assigned, and will be framed-relay through) As far as I know, I could modify the adsl modem to pppoe, and bridge it for the other servers, but I'd prefer the linux server to handle the pppoe. We have 2 machines, and an adsl modem connected to a DMZ, both assigned IP's the internode gave us (except the modem of course). On the main server, is it possible to keep eth0 as its existing ip, and configure pppoe through eth0 as well? If so, how do I configure the routing on the server? also, what do I need to get it to do to get the second server to work? (I assume we don't need to modify the second server, but do I need to setup some routing or proxyarp on the main server?) I've googled, but can't find any useful information. TIA, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Migration from layer 3 to layer 2 with subnet
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 05:53:13PM +1000, Scott Ragen wrote: Hey Guys, Internode will be shortly migrating our adsl from layer 3 to layer 2 pppoe. I've done pppoe before, so thats not a problem, but we have a 5 ip subnet. I'm curious to how I configure the server. (Internode have said we get a new ip address for pppoe, but keep the subnet assigned, and will be framed-relay through) As far as I know, I could modify the adsl modem to pppoe, and bridge it for the other servers, but I'd prefer the linux server to handle the pppoe. We have 2 machines, and an adsl modem connected to a DMZ, both assigned IP's the internode gave us (except the modem of course). On the main server, is it possible to keep eth0 as its existing ip, and configure pppoe through eth0 as well? If so, how do I configure the routing on the server? also, what do I need to get it to do to get the second server to work? (I assume we don't need to modify the second server, but do I need to setup some routing or proxyarp on the main server?) I am guessing they are just going to route you subnet via the new ip address I am not sure if it is a good idea to have pppoe and a normal lan on the same segment ? I've googled, but can't find any useful information. TIA, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL ISP hosts
Sluggers, Can anyone recommend a really good Linux hosted ISP for ADSL [2 is not available] at a reasonable cost. At the moment I am on dial up with up to 100 calls per month and a data xfer rate of 350mb down at max, that would change as speed becomes available [drivers, software, etc] TIA, Nick Tomlin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL ISP hosts
I use and resell Internode. Their prices just went up massively, but the lower end has not been affected. Internode have a very good reputation quality wise, but my new connection will be with iiNet, as they have 2+ in my area. Internode has an excellent Linux mirror and iiNet has quite a good one. Not sure what you mean by Linux hosted. Any ISP will work with Linux. On 6/4/07, Nicholas Tomlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sluggers, Can anyone recommend a really good Linux hosted ISP for ADSL [2 is not available] at a reasonable cost. At the moment I am on dial up with up to 100 calls per month and a data xfer rate of 350mb down at max, that would change as speed becomes available [drivers, software, etc] TIA, Nick Tomlin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL ISP hosts
On 6/4/07, Nicholas Tomlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sluggers, Can anyone recommend a really good Linux hosted ISP for ADSL [2 is not available] at a reasonable cost. I think the term Linux hosted ISP is somewhat of a misnomer these days. With almost nobody offering shell access of any kind, and the xDSL hardware mostly resold from Telstra (unless you happen to be on an exchange which has a third-party ADSL2+ DSLAM installed), what does it matter what the backend machines run on? FWIW, iiNet runs Apache on its webservers - I strongly suspect they're mostly Linux boxes, since making Apache behave well on a 'Doze machine is problematical at best - but does it really matter? At the moment I am on dial up with up to 100 calls per month and a data xfer rate of 350mb down at max, that would change as speed becomes available [drivers, software, etc] Depending how you define reasonable cost, you can get a decent DSL plan with a much bigger download allowance for not a whole lot of money - hell, even the dreaded Telstra offers a 400 meg plan for something like $20 - but I wouldn't even think about recommending that. Head to http://bc.whirlpool.net.au , plug in your phone number and search for plans that suit you. There are literally hundreds of them. It also pays to surf the forums a bit to see if there is a lot of bad blood for a given ISP - Internode, for example, has just had a run of bad press because it's put in place price increases - in some cases massive increases - contrary to its previously stated policies and actions. Most ISP's offer mirrors or peering to mirrors whereby you can get Linux ISO's or repositories for low or no cost (in download allowance terms). DO a little research, and you will find the backend doesn't really matter. Personally, I would recommend avoiding Telstra and Optus like the plague, but that's my opinion only, and you are by no means bound to listen to it! DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL ISP hosts
DaZZa wrote: Head to http://bc.whirlpool.net.au , plug in your phone number and search for plans that suit you. There are literally hundreds of them. It also pays to surf the forums a bit to see if there is a lot of bad blood for a given ISP - Internode, for example, has just had a run of bad press because it's put in place price increases - in some cases massive increases - contrary to its previously stated policies and actions. http://adsl2exchanges.com.au/ this site also might help to find out who has what in your area This page is designed to help you find out what broadband options are available to you. * The ADSL2+ providers in your exchange * Automatic updates of each providers status * A map of where your nearest exchange is located. dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL ISP hosts
On 6/4/07, DaZZa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, iiNet runs Apache on its webservers - I strongly suspect they're mostly Linux boxes, since making Apache behave well on a 'Doze machine is problematical at best - but does it really matter? Last I heard (which is from a few years ago), iiNet use Debian for most of their servers. They also do have a community-run shell server, although it's use is rather restricted by resource limits. http://shell.iinet.net.au/ Internode has used/is using Gentoo and FreeBSD. Not sure. None of this really matters in choosing an ISP though. :) -Chris. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL modem/firewall /etc/hosts
Hi recent discussion was about /etc/hosts to have the name for a local machine rather than the complexity of DNS views. [IE a local machine reffering to a www page 'virtual-hosted' to a local machine gets the modem setup page, not the intended page] If you do not use views then EVERY machine has to have suitable /etc/hosts and if it is a mobile machine and if it is used outside the ADSL/Modem/Firewall circle then the /etc/hosts entries wreck havoc. So in this case /etc/hosts is useful in a very limited context. Just for the record, in case you, like me. act faster than you think :-) James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
If it exists in your area, the best you can hope for is cable. This is pretty fast down, pretty slow up. But if you aren't running a home webserver or doing a lot of bittorrenting, it should be just fine. At least _I_ think it's just fine... compared to the 100Mb-ethernet-to-the-bedroom I had at university (the perk of being the network sysadmin at the college) all this stuff is slow anyway. Personally I don't find the difference between cable and ADSL very large, and the cable is MUCH MUCH MUCH more reliable. As in I've only ever heard of one person that has ever had trouble reliable. And I can get 1Mb a second to my server in the US, so that's everything I need ok :) Adam K Sonia Hamilton wrote: (slightly OT...) Is there a way of getting ADSL at home without paying for a landline? I use my mobile for everything, and don't use the landline but am paying for it to run ADSL on. I know there's things like wireless from http://www.unwired.com.au/, but to get decent downloads the costs would work out the same. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
(slightly OT...) Is there a way of getting ADSL at home without paying for a landline? I use my mobile for everything, and don't use the landline but am paying for it to run ADSL on. I know there's things like wireless from http://www.unwired.com.au/, but to get decent downloads the costs would work out the same. -- Sonia Hamilton. GPG key A8B77238. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There's a vull... (Vacant ull), but there's a snowball's chance of hell in getting one - you used to be able to get them to hook it up to them, but it's not strictly legit, so it's frowned upon these days. Sonia Hamilton wrote: (slightly OT...) Is there a way of getting ADSL at home without paying for a landline? I use my mobile for everything, and don't use the landline but am paying for it to run ADSL on. I know there's things like wireless from http://www.unwired.com.au/, but to get decent downloads the costs would work out the same. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfiWyQ5jkR4oZBYcRApBmAJ0cVRQzZ2HbXVK11C+BZg6XDuujoQCfcThO +UYk8dA8gPtxc91NSMwcgXs= =/tWp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
Some ISPs (I'm thinking of Exetel here, but I know others do the same) let you bundle the line rental with the DSL and give you a discount, and then let you use VoIP to reduce the cost of calls. Wouldn't work well for me - I don't remember the last time I made a landline call On 12/12/06, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked at the possibility of using VoIP on your ADSL connection to mitigate your mobile call charges, thus justifying the cost of you line rental. Sonia Hamilton wrote: (slightly OT...) Is there a way of getting ADSL at home without paying for a landline? I use my mobile for everything, and don't use the landline but am paying for it to run ADSL on. I know there's things like wireless from http://www.unwired.com.au/, but to get decent downloads the costs would work out the same. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; abolish the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
This one time, at band camp, Sonia Hamilton wrote: Is there a way of getting ADSL at home without paying for a landline? I use my mobile for everything, and don't use the landline but am paying for it to run ADSL on. Nope. Welcome to Australia, where we subsidize privately owned corporations whether we like it or not. Think yourself lucky you can at least get decent ADSL. My line is connected via a RIM (little mini exchange in the street) so I can't get ADSL2+ connected and instead have to connect via a Telstra port, so I'm once again subsidizing Telstra. My line rental is the same, despite getting a diminished service. My only recourse is to keep getting paper bills and to pay by credit card. This at least costs the bastards money. I know there's things like wireless from http://www.unwired.com.au/, but to get decent downloads the costs would work out the same. I'm currently using Unwired while waiting for my ADSL to get connected. The service is appalling. At best I get dialup speeds, with higher latency. The software to monitor the Unwired modem, while written in Java, doesn't work. It's got this weirdo install script and I don't know enough about Java to get it going. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich by promising to protect each from the other. - Politicians and Other Scoundrels by Ferdinand Lundberg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
On 12/12/06, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked at the possibility of using VoIP on your ADSL connection to mitigate your mobile call charges, thus justifying the cost of you line rental. How is that? Once you have an IP hart beat you don't need the POTS line. I'm currently connected through iiNet ADSL2 and use their (almost free) VoIP service for outgoing calls, so I get to enjoy paying for an POTS line rental I never use (while still managed to cut down my call costs by about 90%, ex. line rental). I though that what Sonia is asking for is what ULL was made for, wasn't there some movement in legislation to force Telstra to allow this? Anyway, whirlpool.net.au is probably the best resource to find about the options, isn't it? --P -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
This one time, at band camp, Penedo wrote: I though that what Sonia is asking for is what ULL was made for, wasn't there some movement in legislation to force Telstra to allow this? I'm sure Telstra would happily supply the copper for ADSL without a POTS line. It's just the price will be $19.95/month. You'll need to wait until after the next election and the finalization of the T3 process before any government will have the balls to force real competition on the monopoly. Even then it's doubtful, going on past performance. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
Rev Simon Rumble wrote: This one time, at band camp, Sonia Hamilton wrote: Is there a way of getting ADSL at home without paying for a landline? I use my mobile for everything, and don't use the landline but am paying for it to run ADSL on. Nope. Welcome to Australia, where we subsidize privately owned corporations whether we like it or not. Think yourself lucky you can at least get decent ADSL. My line is connected via a RIM (little mini exchange in the street) so I can't get ADSL2+ connected and instead have to connect via a Telstra port, so I'm once again subsidizing Telstra. My line rental is the same, despite getting a diminished service. My only recourse is to keep getting paper bills and to pay by credit card. This at least costs the bastards money. And the end user too, more and more these days. There are at least a couple of bills each month I have to pay where it costs me extra if I want a paper bill, or if I don't set up automatic debit for payment. Oliver -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
This one time, at band camp, David Lloyd wrote: Very, very doubtful; real competition might make Telstra appear to be losing money in the short term thus devaluing shares, thus annoying all the Aussie Battlers [oh PLEASE] who bought shares when the share's value drops. I used to own this company. Then a government I didn't vote for sold it. Also, if I were a Government I wouldn't want the country's largest, private telecommunications provider to be off-side during an election. Like I said, wait until AFTER the election. It might change. But I wouldn't hold my breath. If Labor are smart, they'll make rural broadband an election issue. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net A lifetime of listening to disco music is a high price to pay for one's sexual preference - Quentin Crisp -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
Like I said, wait until AFTER the election. It might change. But I wouldn't hold my breath. If Labor are smart, they'll make rural broadband an election issue. the drought will dominate everything but thats slug-chat material Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
This one time, at band camp, Howard Lowndes wrote: exchange in the street) so I can't get ADSL2+ connected and instead have to connect via a Telstra port, so I'm once again subsidizing Telstra. Not where you can't get ADSL2+ You still have to pay Telstra for line rental, even if you using LUL. It might be billed by your LUL supplier, but there's still money going to Telstra. Not so. Hel$tra charge you a fee if you pay by CC. Ahhh, didn't notice the fine print there. Love the Confusopoly*. [*]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusopoly -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves. - Henry Kissinger on Chile prior to the overthrow and violent death of Salvador Allende. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
* On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 02:42:35PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: Have you looked at the possibility of using VoIP on your ADSL connection to mitigate your mobile call charges, thus justifying the cost of you line rental. * On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 02:45:51PM +1100, Zhasper wrote: Some ISPs (I'm thinking of Exetel here, but I know others do the same) let you bundle the line rental with the DSL and give you a discount, and then let you use VoIP to reduce the cost of calls. Thanks for all the replies! After the last SLUG talk, I'm now using VoIP (sipme) - works well. It's actually motivating me to get rid of my landline, as any long distance calls I make I now do over VoIP. As for my mobile, I use it almost entirely for SMS, not voice calls. I've thought (and posted about) using Asterisk + some sort of SMS gateway to do away with that too, but then realised I like the convenience of being able to SMS whilst out about :-) I'll check out Exetel's bundling - could be the go. Hel$tra is dead! Long live Hel$tra! -- Sonia Hamilton. GPG key A8B77238. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL without paying for a phone line?
Simon, [I hope you don't mind me addressing you informally] You'll need to wait until after the next election and the finalization of the T3 process before any government will have the balls to force real competition on the monopoly. Even then it's doubtful, going on past performance. Very, very doubtful; real competition might make Telstra appear to be losing money in the short term thus devaluing shares, thus annoying all the Aussie Battlers [oh PLEASE] who bought shares when the share's value drops. Also, if I were a Government I wouldn't want the country's largest, private telecommunications provider to be off-side during an election. Especially if I had no control over them... DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Query
On Sat, February 25, 2006 12:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 25 February 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno about ISOs. Have you checked TPGs standard ADSL deals? My current one is $50 per month, 1.5Mb down (I get an average of 1.2) and 20G per month. I'm not sure if they've discontinued the deal to new ADSL members...(?) I just got an AAPT offer in the mail: 512, 12GB capped, $39/month, no fixed contract lenght -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Query
At 02:09 PM 24/02/2006, Rajnish wrote: After looking at the broadbandchoice website for some weeks now, I've figured that I'd ask the sluggers. What are your suggestions for a modest $50/month commitment, minimum 512Kbps plan from an ISP that does not shy away from Linux (slackware, fedora) ? With the market the way it is, the more it seems that you get with your $50, the more restrictions there can be on the service. BBChoice is a good place to start, bearing in mind that most of the comments you will see on whingepool, are complaints :) Linux-supporting ISP's ar few and far between, simply because of the breadth of experience of their helpdesk staff. I'd guess that most users use a router which does the NATing for their LAN, as you would most likely be doing with your setup. And one other question: to avoid having long wires running across the length of the house (phone's in one corner, my computer's in another), I was considering a wireless router (?). What are the draw backs of this ? And also is it likely to interfere with a baby monitor ? Wireless routers are good, use a separate access point myself, simply because I have a cisco 1700 router As for the interference - most likely not baby monitors are usually 433 or in the 900 MHz range, Wireless ethernet is 2.4GHz Cheers, Rob -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Query
On Saturday 25 February 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rajnish, Dunno about ISOs. Have you checked TPGs standard ADSL deals? My current one is $50 per month, 1.5Mb down (I get an average of 1.2) and 20G per month. I'm not sure if they've discontinued the deal to new ADSL members...(?) www.Whirlpool.net.au is a good place to check out what is available. I have a friend with iinet and he's very happy. TPG - Linux. I've stopped mentioning it to them :):) It just creates a problem where they think it's me and not them. I've had very few problems in the last four/five years or so and all but one was at their end... which they fixed. iinet are ultra arrogant, do it our way or Piss Off (literal exact words) They were making a foray 'overeast', don't know ... http://powerdsl.com.au For $59/month: 1.5M Fixed IP No restriction on server-services 20 or 30G linux friendly me 3 others I've pointed at them very happy James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Query
I'm very happy with Internode. Their CEO is a Mac user and is very sympathetic
towards users of alternative OSs. I haven't tested out their Support yet, but
the company claims that they will try to help you no matter what OS you run.
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL Query
I haven't had any problems with iinet myself. They don't seem to mind Linux. But then I have an Ethernet modem; also I have dual boot XP/FC, so I just get their technical support to fix the XP side, and then translate to FC. On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 09:22 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 25 February 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rajnish, Dunno about ISOs. Have you checked TPGs standard ADSL deals? My current one is $50 per month, 1.5Mb down (I get an average of 1.2) and 20G per month. I'm not sure if they've discontinued the deal to new ADSL members...(?) www.Whirlpool.net.au is a good place to check out what is available. I have a friend with iinet and he's very happy. TPG - Linux. I've stopped mentioning it to them :):) It just creates a problem where they think it's me and not them. I've had very few problems in the last four/five years or so and all but one was at their end... which they fixed. iinet are ultra arrogant, do it our way or Piss Off (literal exact words) They were making a foray 'overeast', don't know ... http://powerdsl.com.au For $59/month: 1.5M Fixed IP No restriction on server-services 20 or 30G linux friendly me 3 others I've pointed at them very happy James -- Regards, Martin mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage: http://thereisnoend.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Query
On 25/02/2006, at 5:40 PM, Martin Ellison wrote: I haven't had any problems with iinet myself. They don't seem to mind Linux. But then I have an Ethernet modem; also I have dual boot XP/FC, so I just get their technical support to fix the XP side, and then translate to FC. I've got nothing but good things to say about iiNet. I've been with the for a few years (both dial up and ADSL). Their tech support is great (once you get through some of the dodgy first line support guys). They offered help with Debian, OSX and Airports - none of which they officially support. Their plans are pretty good too. I've got 1500kbps/80GB/month for a fairly reasonable $90 - if only I was on an iiNet DSLAM! -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL Query
All, Finally, I am jumping onto the broad-band-wagon. I am currently with TPG dialup and am generally satisfied with their service quality. After looking at the broadbandchoice website for some weeks now, I've figured that I'd ask the sluggers. What are your suggestions for a modest $50/month commitment, minimum 512Kbps plan from an ISP that does not shy away from Linux (slackware, fedora) ? My typical useage will be: remote desktop to work (will use windoze for this), general webbrowsing (news, wikipedia, cricket). I also intend to download linux distros (for experimentation - in the early days at least), some internet radio etc etc ... with bandwidth to burn ... who know what more I might end up doing. (Any ISP that mirrors the distros and don't count them in ones download limits ?) And one other question: to avoid having long wires running across the length of the house (phone's in one corner, my computer's in another), I was considering a wireless router (?). What are the draw backs of this ? And also is it likely to interfere with a baby monitor ? As always, any suggestions/recommendation/thoughts will be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Rajnish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Query
Internode offer all you want and then some. ISO's are unmetered from their server. Very happy with them, been with them for over 3 years now on ADSL. http://internode.on.net/ On 2/24/06, Rajnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Finally, I am jumping onto the broad-band-wagon. I am currently with TPG dialup and am generally satisfied with their service quality. After looking at the broadbandchoice website for some weeks now, I've figured that I'd ask the sluggers. What are your suggestions for a modest $50/month commitment, minimum 512Kbps plan from an ISP that does not shy away from Linux (slackware, fedora) ? My typical useage will be: remote desktop to work (will use windoze for this), general webbrowsing (news, wikipedia, cricket). I also intend to download linux distros (for experimentation - in the early days at least), some internet radio etc etc ... with bandwidth to burn ... who know what more I might end up doing. (Any ISP that mirrors the distros and don't count them in ones download limits ?) And one other question: to avoid having long wires running across the length of the house (phone's in one corner, my computer's in another), I was considering a wireless router (?). What are the draw backs of this ? And also is it likely to interfere with a baby monitor ? As always, any suggestions/recommendation/thoughts will be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Rajnish -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Menno Schaaf aka ginji irc.austnet.org #gentoo #linux-help -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Query
check out http://www.netspace.net.au free downloads off their peers (ie mirror.pacific.net.au) ppc, amd64 (probably i386) debian updates all free data! Dean Rajnish wrote: All, Finally, I am jumping onto the broad-band-wagon. I am currently with TPG dialup and am generally satisfied with their service quality. After looking at the broadbandchoice website for some weeks now, I've figured that I'd ask the sluggers. What are your suggestions for a modest $50/month commitment, minimum 512Kbps plan from an ISP that does not shy away from Linux (slackware, fedora) ? My typical useage will be: remote desktop to work (will use windoze for this), general webbrowsing (news, wikipedia, cricket). I also intend to download linux distros (for experimentation - in the early days at least), some internet radio etc etc ... with bandwidth to burn ... who know what more I might end up doing. (Any ISP that mirrors the distros and don't count them in ones download limits ?) And one other question: to avoid having long wires running across the length of the house (phone's in one corner, my computer's in another), I was considering a wireless router (?). What are the draw backs of this ? And also is it likely to interfere with a baby monitor ? As always, any suggestions/recommendation/thoughts will be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Query
On 2/24/06, Rajnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that I'd ask the sluggers. What are your suggestions for a modest $50/month commitment, minimum 512Kbps plan from an ISP that does not shy away from Linux (slackware, fedora) ? If you are willing to sign up your home phone with them and you are in an enabled area, you can get ADSL2+ through iinet, who offer quota free mirrors (ubuntu are there - probably other linux distros too) and gaming. If you dont transfer your home phone you get the same package on ADSL1. I pay $40 a month for 4Gb on- and 4Gb off-peak, and see 1 megabyte/sec to the iinet mirror :D Ten dollars more gets you 10Gb/10Gb http://www.iinet.com.au/ And one other question: to avoid having long wires running across the length of the house (phone's in one corner, my computer's in another), I was considering a wireless router (?). What are the draw backs of this ? And also is it likely to interfere with a baby monitor ? I use the iinet branded wireless router from Belkin, which works very well and has VOIP builtin. No help for you on the baby montor front though :D Cheers, Rob. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL connection advice
Hi All I have recently got a broadband connection with iprimus with an external modem/router (Netcomm NB5). I am running Ubuntu and have tried using some of the adsl configuration tools (pppoeconfig and roaroing penguin) this was unsucessfull (unable to find aggregator was the message - I think). I got it working; using DCHP the ethernet card gets a local IP address from the modem and I can ping outside IP adresses. logging into the modem/router and noting the assigned DNS servers and enter these in my resolve.conf file. I am able to get e-mail do web browsing etc. Is this a reasonable way to set it up? It seems too simple compared to what I've read. I assume the modem/router is doing all the connecting. I am concerned that this may be an insecure way to connect and I want to automatically connect when the computer turns on. Any advice or comments would be appreciated. Steven O'Reilly -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL connection advice
On 6/8/05, Steven O'Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All I have recently got a broadband connection with iprimus with an external modem/router (Netcomm NB5). Hi Steve, The modem handles the PPPoE side of things. Make sure you have your modems LAN address set as your default route. It's just like connecting to any vanilla network. Regards, Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL connection advice
Steven O'Reilly wrote: Hi All I have recently got a broadband connection with iprimus with an external modem/router (Netcomm NB5). I am running Ubuntu and have tried using some of the adsl configuration tools (pppoeconfig and roaroing penguin) this was unsucessfull (unable to find aggregator was the message - I think). I got it working; using DCHP the ethernet card gets a local IP address from the modem and I can ping outside IP adresses. logging into the modem/router and noting the assigned DNS servers and enter these in my resolve.conf file. I am able to get e-mail do web browsing etc. Is this a reasonable way to set it up? It seems too simple compared to what I've read. I assume the modem/router is doing all the connecting. I am concerned that this may be an insecure way to connect and I want to automatically connect when the computer turns on. Any advice or comments would be appreciated. Steven O'Reilly It boils down the what sort of firewall/protection the Netcomm has built it. It most likely has something, but may not be as secure as you want it. Scan your external IP address and see what is open/closed/filtered. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL/DNS/IPTables issue
Tony Green wrote: The issue is that when a desktop requests a DNS lookup, it times out before it comes back (5 seconds approx). You can immediately request the address again and everything works fine - a simple but annoying work around. strange, I had the same problem on a box that was querying warrane.connect.com.au. I could do a time host sol1.net and every single time it would be 10 secs delay before a response. I couldn't figure out what was wrong, and so just configure my local bind to not forward, hence look everything up via the root servers. Turns out that was faster then the 10sec delay off connect's name servers. Your upstream not forwarding off connect maybe? I am running shorewall as well. I wonder if for some strange reason, it drops the first and maybe second packets, and the 10sec delay is because of some shorewall bug? I just tried to duplicate the problem I had with warrane just now, and its not doing it - response is just fine now bugger. dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL/DNS/IPTables issue
Happy Friday Afternoon one and all, I've got a annoyance of a problem which, I thought, was limited to my home ADSL connection, but I was wrong. I upgraded my firewall at home to Debian Sarge (running 2.6 kernel) and quickly found some problems which didn't used to exist. I thought it was MSS clamping (which I had missed), but enabling that didn't fix everything. The issue is that when a desktop requests a DNS lookup, it times out before it comes back (5 seconds approx). You can immediately request the address again and everything works fine - a simple but annoying work around. I thought it was some weird setup thing with my ADSL (iiNet). I switched from PPPoE on the firewall to running that on the ADSL modem - still no good. I looked into MTU's, but nothing worked (went down to 1452). The firewall config is the same on the old and the new setups, port 53 tcp/udp is allowed through. I'm running bind9 on the firewall and the iptables is run through shorewall. Head scratching and googling hasn't yielded much more info and now I've replicated the problem on a brand new, but completely separate, machine (same packages but on Telstra ADSL). Concussion from a cluestick to the head is more than welcome. Greeno -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL and DNS
Michael Fox wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:29:04 +1000, Ben Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, Thanks for the quick reply. The ADSL modem is a modem router. It has a USB and four ethernet ports. My Linux firewall is connected to it via an ethernet cable and is on eth0. hence the 10.x range. Are you saying I've got to configure the ADSL modem router to be a dumb device and so it has to pass the public IP to the USB? interface on the Linux box? (if so i'll have to figure out how the make the ADSL modem do it... any clues here???) You need to tell your ADSL router to port forward the service you want through (and where to). ie. I run a webserver on the linux firewall and its ip is 10.0.0.8 I'd then tell my ADSL router in its port forwarding rules to allow TCP 80 through, and send itr to 10.0.0.8 That way when someone externally accesses our public ip on port 80 TCP it passes through the router as per the port forwarding rules. You could do this for DNS the same way. Thanks Also make sure for DNS you forward both TCP and UDP port 53. This cought me the first time. - Karl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL and DNS
Hi Slugs, I have what is probably an ADSL setup the same as a lot of people. --public IP--|ADSL|--10.x.x.x--|Linux firewall|--192.168.1.x to internal hosts I want to do my own primary DNS server which points to my domains. (will get it seconded externally) Can anyone point me to a HOWTO that tells how to do DNS on the firewall or internal hosts so that I can host domains that are publically visible to the outside world? As in I'm going from a permanent modem to an ADSL but the inside of the ADSL is a private IP range ie 10.x.x.x. I'm trying to figure out how to set up the DNS to that it acts like a normal DNS if you know what I mean, visible to the outside world. Is there some routing trick or NAT'ing that will do it or is the only way it's going to work is having a public address on the inside of the ADSL? Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL and DNS
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:54:02 +1000, Ben Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Slugs, I have what is probably an ADSL setup the same as a lot of people. --public IP--|ADSL|--10.x.x.x--|Linux firewall|--192.168.1.x to internal hosts If you are using pppoe on linux to authenticate, it would mean the 10.x.x.x address doesn't come into it. The reason being is that the public ip then gets passed to the interface the modem is connected too. At which point you'd just allow dns requests in on this interface on the linux firewall. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL and DNS
Hi Michael, Thanks for the quick reply. The ADSL modem is a modem router. It has a USB and four ethernet ports. My Linux firewall is connected to it via an ethernet cable and is on eth0. hence the 10.x range. Are you saying I've got to configure the ADSL modem router to be a dumb device and so it has to pass the public IP to the USB? interface on the Linux box? (if so i'll have to figure out how the make the ADSL modem do it... any clues here???) Ben Michael Fox wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:54:02 +1000, Ben Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Slugs, I have what is probably an ADSL setup the same as a lot of people. --public IP--|ADSL|--10.x.x.x--|Linux firewall|--192.168.1.x to internal hosts If you are using pppoe on linux to authenticate, it would mean the 10.x.x.x address doesn't come into it. The reason being is that the public ip then gets passed to the interface the modem is connected too. At which point you'd just allow dns requests in on this interface on the linux firewall. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL and DNS
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:29:04 +1000, Ben Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, Thanks for the quick reply. The ADSL modem is a modem router. It has a USB and four ethernet ports. My Linux firewall is connected to it via an ethernet cable and is on eth0. hence the 10.x range. Are you saying I've got to configure the ADSL modem router to be a dumb device and so it has to pass the public IP to the USB? interface on the Linux box? (if so i'll have to figure out how the make the ADSL modem do it... any clues here???) You need to tell your ADSL router to port forward the service you want through (and where to). ie. I run a webserver on the linux firewall and its ip is 10.0.0.8 I'd then tell my ADSL router in its port forwarding rules to allow TCP 80 through, and send itr to 10.0.0.8 That way when someone externally accesses our public ip on port 80 TCP it passes through the router as per the port forwarding rules. You could do this for DNS the same way. Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL link yoyoing
Any clues as to what is causing the problem. I had the same thing on redhat 9 I changed from the Redhat specfic rp-pppoe rpm to the standard one. IE from version 3.5-2 to version 3.5-1 Yes going back a version But fixed the problem! cheers Roger - Original Message - From: Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: UnknownMailList-SLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnknownMailList-MURLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: [SLUG] ADSL link yoyoing I have a bridged ADSL link using a Dynalink RT100+ together with rp-pppoe client that keeps recycling the link to the DSL provider between about 30 secs and about 4 mins. I had to change the config of the modem from routed to bridged and the pppoe-server-options file has lcp-echo-interval 10, and lcp-echo-failure 2. Any clues as to what is causing the problem. The specific error messages that I get from pppoe are: May 27 12:23:47 gw pppoe[12061]: Inactivity timeout... something wicked happened on session 3037 May 27 12:23:47 gw pppoe[12061]: Sent PADT after which pppd hangs up the modem and reconnects. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- Flatter government, not fatter government - Get rid of the Australian states. -- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. - Scott Granneman, SecurityFocus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL link yoyoing
I have a bridged ADSL link using a Dynalink RT100+ together with rp-pppoe client that keeps recycling the link to the DSL provider between about 30 secs and about 4 mins. I had to change the config of the modem from routed to bridged and the pppoe-server-options file has lcp-echo-interval 10, and lcp-echo-failure 2. Any clues as to what is causing the problem. The specific error messages that I get from pppoe are: May 27 12:23:47 gw pppoe[12061]: Inactivity timeout... something wicked happened on session 3037 May 27 12:23:47 gw pppoe[12061]: Sent PADT after which pppd hangs up the modem and reconnects. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- Flatter government, not fatter government - Get rid of the Australian states. -- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. - Scott Granneman, SecurityFocus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
This one time, at band camp, DaZZa wrote:
OK, so who, in your opinion, for which I will not hold you responsible if
I'm silly enough to listen to {:-)}, *is* a good place to do on-line orb
lookups?
We use the following list. Use spamcop at your own discretion, we have
had to disable it for various clients due to (mainly) bigpong getting
constantly listed.
relays.ordb.org, sbl.spamhaus.org, bl.spamcop.net, opm.blitzed.org,
list.dsbl.org, blackholes.easynet.nl, cbl.abuseat.org
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
Subject: Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations? Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 17:13:13 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chris Deigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote(Erik de Castro Lopo); I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? I have a D-Link DSL-300+ which works fairly well (besides bad internal security which is easily fixed with iptables) I've also heard good things about Billion (which are on the cheaper side) - Chris What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as part of their promos? For instance, i am about to install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... does anyone know what modem they provide? Then I can get cracking at researching if/how it works with Linux. Thanks, Kanwar Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as part of their promos? For instance, i am about to install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... does anyone know what modem they provide? Then I can get cracking at researching if/how it works with Linux. Alcatel don't they? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 09:23:32 +1100 (EST) Kanwar Plaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as part of their promos? Different ISPs provide different modems. For instance, i am about to install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... My experiences with Bigpond Cable broadband is the reason I am moving to ADSL with someone other than Bigpong. Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup I have so far spent over 5 hours on the phone to telstra suport bots (actually an insult to most functional bot programs) explaining to them that its their responsibility to get Telstra's mail servers out of the database. Meanwhile, I am getting legitimate email from me to people I know all over the world getting bounced back to me. Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ I would rather spend 10 hours reading someone else's source code than 10 minutes listening to Musak waiting for technical support which isn't. - Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. Unfortunately, so are SORBS. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ It's not just a song! It's a document of my life! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:21 am, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. Unfortunately, so are SORBS. - Jeff Hence the reason all the SORBS scores in every SpamAssassin installation I manage have scores of zero. Then you have customers who insist on using some weird-arse RBL that was never intended to be distributed (like this one - http:// www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php). Then you end up with you mail server being guilty by association (within the IP block assigned to $ISP)grrr. What sort of RBL blocks an ENTIRE B-class network?!?! James - -- Fortune cookies says: What one fool can do, another can. -- Ancient Simian Proverb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAQ8nwwBHpdJO7b9ERAt0rAKCXIcr1kq+JGPl3xpQVqNQKW1YHYgCgjBFw nSApyf3ZHBlGkR6YiDVJvWw= =lCIk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
Kanwar, I'm with telstra, they provided me with an Alcatel Speed Touch Pro, which I used windows and their supplied cd to setup. Then told linux it had a new gateway. 5 min including rebooting. I also have here the Netcom nb1300 and the Billion bipac-714 ge v2.0 I'd recommend the billion to anybody. Easy to setup, very configutrable and use. (The modem I currently use) My two pence worth anyway. Ashley What about the modem that ISPs provide by default as part of their promos? For instance, i am about to install ADSL broadband from Telstra ... does anyone know what modem they provide? Then I can get cracking at researching if/how it works with Linux. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup And not just the cable ones either - a good percentage of their mail servers that permanently connected business customers are supposed to use as relays, or if they can't set up their own mail server, are there as well. I keep catching hell at work because the RBL lookup matches, and blocks legitimate inbound mail. I remove the server, but as soon as another message comes through - BAM, right back in. And there is *no* consistancy as far as which server gets used - you can't say Client XX uses server YY for outbound mail all the time, and put in an exception for server YY. I have so far spent over 5 hours on the phone to telstra suport bots (actually an insult to most functional bot programs) explaining to them that its their responsibility to get Telstra's mail servers out of the database. You are flat out wasting your time. The only thing that got Telstra off their arse to fix their news servers was the threat of a UDP against them - and even then, they did it at the absolute last minute. Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. So do I, but unfortunately, you can't stop people sending you mail from a Telstra account. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Erik de Castro Lopo Telstra currently have a number of their mail servers listed in the SORBS database: https://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup Telstra are beyond clueless and I advise anyone to stay well away from them. Unfortunately, so are SORBS. Care to elaborate? If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a balanced argument as to WHY they're bad. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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quote who=DaZZa Unfortunately, so are SORBS. Care to elaborate? If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a balanced argument as to WHY they're bad. First off, their methods and policies for adding and keeping IP addresses (but usually whole blocks) are pretty shonky. Bodgy tests, insisting that a number of infractions lists you for a full year (and similar rules), and the worst is aggregating all of their lists - even the very suspect ones - into a single rbl (which is basically what all SORBS users use). Most removals are done manually, not via automated checks. Many of their lists are whacked enough by definition that they require manual checks. Insane. You really have to read their webpage (http://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/) to see just how crack they are. Additionally, to get off some of their lists, you must make a $50 donation to a suggested or chosen charity. That's just flat-out extortion - even though it sounds all very nice and dandy, and we should wring spammers necks, and yada yada yada, SORBS are so willy-nilly with their shotgun approach that they affect everyone. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ Gah. Out of coffee. Shall think whilst auto-caffeinating. - Telsa Gwynne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:35:05 +1100 (EST) DaZZa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Care to elaborate? If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a balanced argument as to WHY they're bad. OK, here is a bounce that I got: Connected to 208.137.128.6 but sender was rejected. Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 Mail from 144.140.70.20 refused by dnsbl dnsbl.sorbs.net Where 144.140.70.20 is one of the bigpond mail servers. Looking it up on SROBS: http://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=144.140.70.20 144.140.70.20 found in Database of servers sending to spamtrap addresses Address or Block 144.140.70.20 / 32 Description Subject: * failure notice Entry Created Wed Jan 21 11:40:09 2004 GMT Entry Last Seen Wed Jan 21 11:40:09 2004 GMT Spam Seen From 144.140.70.20 Now everyone will recognise that Subject line as a line from one of the latest windows virii. So what happened was that some bigpond user has a machine with a virus, and the virus sent an email to the SORBS spamtrap address. I have no problem with people who filter out virii. I can even live with the stupid fscking virus notification emails, but blacklisting a whole ISP because one of their users has a virus is a bit much. So I agree, SORBS is a least as fscked as bigpond. I can't do much about SORBS, but I will be leaving bigpond ASAP. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ He who writes the code gets to choose his license, and nobody else gets to complain -- Linus Torvalds -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=DaZZa
Unfortunately, so are SORBS.
Care to elaborate?
If sorbs are that bad, I'll stop using them if someone can give me a
balanced argument as to WHY they're bad.
First off, their methods and policies for adding and keeping IP addresses
(but usually whole blocks) are pretty shonky. Bodgy tests, insisting that a
number of infractions lists you for a full year (and similar rules), and the
worst is aggregating all of their lists - even the very suspect ones - into
a single rbl (which is basically what all SORBS users use). Most removals
are done manually, not via automated checks. Many of their lists are whacked
enough by definition that they require manual checks. Insane.
You really have to read their webpage (http://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/) to
see just how crack they are. Additionally, to get off some of their lists,
you must make a $50 donation to a suggested or chosen charity. That's just
flat-out extortion - even though it sounds all very nice and dandy, and we
should wring spammers necks, and yada yada yada, SORBS are so willy-nilly
with their shotgun approach that they affect everyone.
OK, so who, in your opinion, for which I will not hold you responsible if
I'm silly enough to listen to {:-)}, *is* a good place to do on-line orb
lookups?
DaZZa
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quote who=DaZZa
OK, so who, in your opinion, for which I will not hold you responsible if
I'm silly enough to listen to {:-)}, *is* a good place to do on-line orb
lookups?
Ah, now that's much harder. Your decision should be driven by your users
requirements and policies more than anything else. Go to openrbl.org and
check out the ones it uses, and choose between them based on your needs.
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=DaZZa
OK, so who, in your opinion, for which I will not hold you responsible if
I'm silly enough to listen to {:-)}, *is* a good place to do on-line orb
lookups?
Ah, now that's much harder. Your decision should be driven by your users
requirements and policies more than anything else. Go to openrbl.org and
check out the ones it uses, and choose between them based on your needs.
Have done, and made some changes.
Now, let's see if they work. :)
Thanks.
DaZZa
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[SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
HI all, I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? TIA, Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Windows NT : An evolutionary dead end. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
Dlink 504/604 firewall, 4 port hub, NAT, DHCP + more Depending on wireless or not. Just plug the cables in and off you go. Has web/telnet/serial connections for setup if needed and config. I have been using mine for about 8mths with no problems. If I have one complaint it has a noisy transformer. Darren On Mon, 01 Mar 2004, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: HI all, I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? TIA, Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Windows NT : An evolutionary dead end. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Darren Williams dsw AT gelato.unsw.edu.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gelato.unsw.edu.au -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
quote(Erik de Castro Lopo); I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? I have a D-Link DSL-300+ which works fairly well (besides bad internal security which is easily fixed with iptables) I've also heard good things about Billion (which are on the cheaper side) - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
I have a D-Link DSL-300+ which works fairly well (besides bad internal security which is easily fixed with iptables) I've also heard good things about Billion (which are on the cheaper side) I have a Billion and I must say it works great, as compared to the last 2 modems I had in the past. If I had to buy another modem, I would be buying a billion again. It all comes down to what you want, work out how you want to setup your network with the modem and then buy a modem that suits you. If wanted my linux machine to do all the routing and nat, then I'd probably buy a traverse pci adsl modem :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
Chris Deigan wrote: quote(Erik de Castro Lopo); I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? I have a D-Link DSL-300+ which works fairly well (besides bad internal security which is easily fixed with iptables) I've also heard good things about Billion (which are on the cheaper side) I am using the Single port Netgear router which can operate as a Modem or a router. I also have several of the larger Router's in use at customers house's and they are working very well. I have them running in several diferent ways from Modem on a E-Smith.org server to running in router mode. They are fairly easy to configure and in 7 months and running an Office of a Res-DSL Connection through Comindico have not had any problems at all. David - Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations?
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:56:23 +1100 Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI all, I'm about to move from cable broadband to ADSL and the ISP I have chosen allows me to choose my own modem instead of the one the supply (Netcomm NB1300). I've heard of some problems with the NB1300 so I'm looking at alternatives. Anyone have any recommendations? Thanks for all the replies people. Interesting thing is that I heard from two people who had the NB1300, upgraded the firmware and had no problems form there on. I think I'll probably just get the NB1300. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ #!/bin/sh unzip ; strip; touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; more ; umount ; sleep ; -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL connection Problems
Attached please find snippets of logs related with the present configuration of the ethernet connection as per request by Kevin Saenz that this be posted to slug. Their is no router. The ethernet modem is connected directly to a single computer. I have extracted some of the logs which I am sending herein as an attachment. Hope this assists Any help will be greatly appreciated -- Rgds. Edward Registered Linux User #224802 -- Rgds. Edward Registered Linux User #224802 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL
I'd say try configuring the router for the login password, they give instructions for setting up one under Windows XP and from this it looks like the router does it all for you. In other words DONT SETUP PPPOE/PPPOA on linux, rather just set it to use DHCP and configure the router. Now configuring the router might be a pain, might have to use their Windows software for that but you might find a web browser works too. On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Edward G. Howard wrote: Greetings, As founder of the AACC Australian Associated Computer Club Inc, in the Cebtral Coast (Gosford) I would appreciate if you would ask your members if there is any one using ethernet adsl with ozemail. One of our members is having difficulty in establishing the connection with tkpppoe. Using Mandrake 9.2 (release 2.4.22-10mdk) and KDE version 3.1.3 FYI when entering: pppoe-wrapper status ozemail we get: Link is down (can't read pppd PID file /var/run/adsl-ozemail.pid.pppd) Any assistance/suggetions will be greatly appreciated -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL
Greetings, As founder of the AACC Australian Associated Computer Club Inc, in the Cebtral Coast (Gosford) I would appreciate if you would ask your members if there is any one using ethernet adsl with ozemail. One of our members is having difficulty in establishing the connection with tkpppoe. Using Mandrake 9.2 (release 2.4.22-10mdk) and KDE version 3.1.3 FYI when entering: pppoe-wrapper status ozemail we get: Link is down (can't read pppd PID file /var/run/adsl-ozemail.pid.pppd) Any assistance/suggetions will be greatly appreciated -- Rgds. Edward Registered Linux User #224802 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL - FULL Bridge - HELP!! - Netcomm1300+4
Hi Sluggers. I am trying without much reliability to have a Netcomm 1300 + 4 ADSL modem running in full bridge mode with SwifDSL.com.au as the ISP. ISP is wonderfull, its the bloody modem or my setup I suspect. I can't run half bridge (which works wonderfully without problem for weeks) its simply I need full bridge so the Linux box with Apache+SSL certificate work with the assigned static IP address (SSL need it otherwise certificate porblems arise). I am using SuSE Pro 9.0 and every setups and runs without errors. Ifconfig looks follows: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BF:4E:1F:F9 inet addr:192.168.1.6 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::250:bfff:fe4e:1ff9/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5357 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4265 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:2 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:2475248 (2.3 Mb) TX bytes:528631 (516.2 Kb) Interrupt:5 Base address:0xd800 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:E8:13:83:9B inet addr:192.168.10.1 Bcast:192.168.10.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::200:e8ff:fe13:839b/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1195 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1610 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:143087 (139.7 Kb) TX bytes:1652323 (1.5 Mb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xd400 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:68 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:68 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:4360 (4.2 Kb) TX bytes:4360 (4.2 Kb) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:218.214.53.231 P-t-P:202.154.95.185 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1 RX packets:5260 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4163 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:2353044 (2.2 Mb) TX bytes:432752 (422.6 Kb) and routing is fine: Has anyone got a Netcomm 1300+4 running FULL BRIDGE mode ? Can you offer any suggestions on what I should look at? Thanks Grahame. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
