Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:14:35 AM gonzo01 wrote: I'm using Linux Mint 10.0 64 bit with a Billion ADSL 2+ modem/router on a gigabit network ( modem/router has Gigabit ports). Recently my ISP upgraded my plan from 1500/256 to 8000/354. My download speed has gone from around 150 KiBs to around 250 KiBs. the Modem stats show Upstream 384 Downstream 2368 SNR upstream 6.0 SNR Downstream 5.9 Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Ping ( according to Optus Speedtest) = 45 ms Are these figures reasonable? 2368 downstream is around a 60% increase but is at the bottom end of the range according to Optus Speedtest. Is there anything I can check/do to increase downstream speed? Havent found anything usefull by Googling. I'm aware that distance from exchange and quality of line isimportant. Thanks hi Gonzo01 My spped is also 8000 down and 384 up, but I get 1000-1200Kbyes a sec d/l You may need to upgrade your router bios. Gerald 0 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
Silicon Chip mag this month suggests some ADSL routers are line-polarity sensitive. Try swapping around the incoming phone wires to see. Kevin On 10/05/2011 3:27 PM, GeraldCC gcsgcatl...@bigpond.com wrote: On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:14:35 AM gonzo01 wrote: I'm using Linux Mint 10.0 64 bit with a Billion ADSL 2+ modem/router on a gigabit network ( modem/router has Gigabit ports). Recently my ISP upgraded my plan from 1500/256 to 8000/354. My download speed has gone from around 150 KiBs to around 250 KiBs. the Modem stats show Upstream 384 Downstream 2368 SNR upstream 6.0 SNR Downstream 5.9 Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Ping ( according to Optus Speedtest) = 45 ms Are these figures reasonable? 2368 downstream is around a 60% increase but is at the bottom end of the range according to Optus Speedtest. Is there anything I can check/do to increase downstream speed? Havent found anything usefull by Googling. I'm aware that distance from exchange and quality of line isimportant. Thanks hi Gonzo01 My spped is also 8000 down and 384 up, but I get 1000-1200Kbyes a sec d/l You may need to upgrade your router bios. Gerald 0 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:14:35 AM gonzo01 wrote: I'm using Linux Mint 10.0 64 bit with a Billion ADSL 2+ modem/router on a gigabit network ( modem/router has Gigabit ports). Recently my ISP upgraded my plan from 1500/256 to 8000/354. My download speed has gone from around 150 KiBs to around 250 KiBs. the Modem stats show Upstream 384 Downstream 2368 SNR upstream 6.0 SNR Downstream 5.9 Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Ping ( according to Optus Speedtest) = 45 ms Are these figures reasonable? 2368 downstream is around a 60% increase but is at the bottom end of the range according to Optus Speedtest. It's worth checking out http://www.tpg.com.au/maps/ TPG have provided a Google maps mashup which has data from their customers. Gives you a pretty good idea of what sort of speeds you can expect in your area compared to what TPG customers are getting. Cheers, John -- John Blog http://www.inodes.org LCA2012 http://lcaunderthestars.org.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
Hey mate, gonzo01 said: Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Are these figures reasonable? They may be reasonable for your distance from the exchange. Either way, 44 dB attenuation is not my idea of fun whether it’s able to be improved or not. Havent found anything usefull by Googling. I generally find the Whirlpool community to be most knowledgeable and helpful regarding ADSL. In particular this Whirlpool wiki page has some good links to get you educated: http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/dslam_speeds Is there anything I can check/do to increase downstream speed? Apart from moving closer to the exchange? Standard rules apply: make sure the phone line going from the modem to the wall is as short as possible. If you have a fax machine, try temporarily disconnecting that. If you use an ADSL splitter, try bypassing that to see if it’s lowering your sync. Apart from that, there’s not a lot you can do. In extreme cases, the only solution is physically shortening the line — i.e. getting connected to a RIM. [0] Although that’s not suitable for all cases. [1][2] The other thing is to check for crackling on the phone line. If you don’t hear anything, call someone else and ask if they can hear anything (from experience, it can sometimes be heard only one way). Do you get dropouts at all? Most modems will show you how long the line has been connected for. If you leave your modem switched on for 24 hours, and you check the stats but the Internet has only been on for 30 minutes (and the “always on” setting is ticked), then you’re experiencing dropouts and that should definitely be followed up as a fault with your ISP. Cheers, Jeremy. -- [0] A RIM is basically a mini exchange that is usually closer to your house than the exchange. [1] If you are using an ISP that has connected you directly to their exchange, then moving to a RIM may NOT be what you want to do, as they would charge you more for the service by needing to go via Telstra Wholesale. [2] I work for an ISP that mainly services an area where only Telstra Wholesale ADSL is available, so moving to RIMs is not a problem for my customers. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
On Wed, May 11, 2011 2:00 am, Jeremy Visser wrote: gonzo01 said: Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Are these figures reasonable? Bigpond ADSL, I'm just outside the 1.5k exchange inner band TPG page says: Line of sight: 1630m. Possible cable dist.: 2295m. I get: DSL Connection Details DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair) Protocol: G.DMT2 Annex A Downstream Rate:5630 kbps Upstream Rate: 747 kbps Channel:Interleaved Current Noise Margin: 12.5 dB (Downstream) 16.5 dB (Upstream) Current Attenuation:40.7 dB (Downstream) 22.3 dB (Upstream) Current Output Power: 19.3 dBm (Downstream) 11.9 dBm (Upstream) does that look reasonable ? it all seems to work OK, no real problems Question: I use a 5 metre extension cord from wall subsocket to ADSL, and, the phone sockets is perhaps 15 metres from Telstra 'sub' MDF I've been tempted to hook up a (parallel) phone wire off the MDF to a dedicated wall socket for ADSL so, replace existing 15? meteres old wiring + 3 meters to subsocket off original T socket+ 5 metre extension with 4 meter dedicate ADSL socket from MDF is it worth the effort, will I see real improvement? (or just a warm fuzzy feeling that's it's done properly?) -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
Yes your lead from socket to Adam is a huge problem. Removing a lead like that made a huge difference for me Ken Foskey On 11/05/2011, at 7:13 AM, Voytek Eymont li...@sbt.net.au wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 2:00 am, Jeremy Visser wrote: gonzo01 said: Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Are these figures reasonable? Bigpond ADSL, I'm just outside the 1.5k exchange inner band TPG page says: Line of sight: 1630m. Possible cable dist.: 2295m. I get: DSL Connection Details DSL Line (Wire Pair):Line 1 (inner pair) Protocol:G.DMT2 Annex A Downstream Rate:5630 kbps Upstream Rate:747 kbps Channel:Interleaved Current Noise Margin:12.5 dB (Downstream) 16.5 dB (Upstream) Current Attenuation:40.7 dB (Downstream) 22.3 dB (Upstream) Current Output Power:19.3 dBm (Downstream) 11.9 dBm (Upstream) does that look reasonable ? it all seems to work OK, no real problems Question: I use a 5 metre extension cord from wall subsocket to ADSL, and, the phone sockets is perhaps 15 metres from Telstra 'sub' MDF I've been tempted to hook up a (parallel) phone wire off the MDF to a dedicated wall socket for ADSL so, replace existing 15? meteres old wiring + 3 meters to subsocket off original T socket+ 5 metre extension with 4 meter dedicate ADSL socket from MDF is it worth the effort, will I see real improvement? (or just a warm fuzzy feeling that's it's done properly?) -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
On Wed, May 11, 2011 8:59 am, Ken Foskey wrote: Yes your lead from socket to Adam is a huge problem. Removing a lead like that made a huge difference for me Ken, I'll proceed with that as soon as I can find few metres of Telstra wire OK, another dumb Q: I have like streetMDF-subMDFTsocket wiring is maybe 30/40 years old recently we had a brand new 25 pair added between the MDFs, there is now two cables: MDF==25metres===subMDF is it worth the effort to transfer my line between MDF to subMDF from 'old' cable to a pair on the brand new 25 pair cable ? (things people will do...) -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
I'm using Linux Mint 10.0 64 bit with a Billion ADSL 2+ modem/router on a gigabit network ( modem/router has Gigabit ports). Recently my ISP upgraded my plan from 1500/256 to 8000/354. My download speed has gone from around 150 KiBs to around 250 KiBs. the Modem stats show Upstream 384 Downstream 2368 SNR upstream 6.0 SNR Downstream 5.9 Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Ping ( according to Optus Speedtest) = 45 ms Are these figures reasonable? 2368 downstream is around a 60% increase but is at the bottom end of the range according to Optus Speedtest. Is there anything I can check/do to increase downstream speed? Havent found anything usefull by Googling. I'm aware that distance from exchange and quality of line isimportant. Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL download speed/settings.
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:14 AM, gonzo01 gonz...@fastmail.fm wrote: I'm using Linux Mint 10.0 64 bit with a Billion ADSL 2+ modem/router on a gigabit network ( modem/router has Gigabit ports). Recently my ISP upgraded my plan from 1500/256 to 8000/354. My download speed has gone from around 150 KiBs to around 250 KiBs. the Modem stats show Upstream 384 Downstream 2368 SNR upstream 6.0 SNR Downstream 5.9 Line Attentuation Upstream 31.5 Line Attenuation Downstream 44.0 Ping ( according to Optus Speedtest) = 45 ms Are these figures reasonable? 2368 downstream is around a 60% increase but is at the bottom end of the range according to Optus Speedtest. Is there anything I can check/do to increase downstream speed? Havent found anything usefull by Googling. I'm aware that distance from exchange and quality of line isimportant. Depends how far you are from the exchange, as you've said. Hit the following web site http://www.adsl2exchanges.com.au and type your address into the Address lookup box on the left of the screen. I've found the estimates provided by this site to be reasonably accurate (plus or minus about 10%). If the suggested rate varies more than that from what you're seeing, you can try the following. 1) Remove ALL extension cables from your phone socket to your modem - get the line connection from your modem on as short a piece of cable as you can before it plugs into the actual modem. 2) Pay someone to re-terminate your phone socket from the boundary point - usually in the street - with new cable and socket. 3) Make sure your modem has the latest possible working firmware on it. 4) Call your ISP and see if they can help. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html