Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 17:43 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: Pete, who measures his traffic in gross nybbles to reduce confusion. Is that 4-bit IBM nybbles or 6-bit DEC nybbles? he he he -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Glen Turner wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 17:43 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: Pete, who measures his traffic in gross nybbles to reduce confusion. Is that 4-bit IBM nybbles or 6-bit DEC nybbles? he he he 6-bit DEC nybbles? never. cheers rickw -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services || Internet Driving Instructor A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but can't afford an air force. -- William Blum -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 05:43:56PM +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: I call shenanigans! On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 16:22 +1100, Matthew Hannigan wrote: Don't stop there! You probably mean bits not b(ytes) and mebi not mega, so it's 108 Mibit/s 1) It's mibi not mebi. I don't think so Mister! Your url disagrees with you! So there and also: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html 2) The same standard that defines mibi- as a prefix (IEEE 1541 [1]) specifies that b is the symbol for bits, and B should be used for bytes. In practical use, though, I tend to see either bits or B. -- Pete, who measures his traffic in gross nybbles to reduce confusion. per ..? fortnight? Who actually uses these prefixes in real actual speech? Not me, I'd feel a right wally. [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too I have avoided D-Link hardware for about five years now. My experiences back then included failure-prone products, long telephone tech support queues (4 hours plus, I kid you not!), IE-only Web interfaces, and a tonne of other things that I can't think of at this time of night. I have no idea of how they are now, but they would have had to have improved immensely to be even half-decent in my book. -- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Try TP-Link ADSL 2+ Modem http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=111 It's cheap but you need to use an atheros superG cards on the client side to use the proprietary 108mb wifi but it's compatible with B and G and works like a charm in firefox and has bridging On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 08:43:44AM +1100, Morgan Storey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. I do not think that the dsl-502T is made for more then the simple stuff, i.e. as a bridge, however for this its rock solid! I am away from the exchange about 3.5Km and the downloads are about 720kb/s(steady). I had to turn it off yesterday morning as I did some phone cable re-routing, but this is what the modem reports just now (yes this is 1.3 GB since 14.00 yesterday) Rx PDU's 1019840 Rx Total Bytes 1358496516 Rx Total Error Counts 1727 AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest Oh yes: [root ~] #telnet XX.XX.XX.XX Trying XX.XX.XX.XX... Connected to XX.XX.XX.XX Escape character is '^]'. BusyBox on (none) login: XX Password: BusyBox v0.61.pre (2007.11.02-05:10+) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. # firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. I have no problem running firefox (we do not use IE, its blocked at the firewall) This modem has another cool feature. It is impossible to get to any modem in bridge mode without having a second interface, this one has an ethernet AND usb port, so what I did as my setup is (on the LINUX router): eth2: USB based virtual network card that is connected to the USB port of the DSL-502T eth1: INTERNAL LAN facing network eth0: BRIDGE based nework card used for ppp that is connected to the eth port of the dsl-502T ppp0: my WAN based IP address. I do not need a fancy modem, as the linux router does what I need much better/faster although I have to admit that because of the busy box on the 502T its getting close. But on the router I have some fancy cpus ... Jobst On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk. | |0| | Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], General Manager | | |0| Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L |0|0|0| +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 09:52:21AM +1100, xorprime ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Try TP-Link ADSL 2+ Modem http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=111 It's cheap but you need to use an atheros superG cards on the client side to use the proprietary 108mb wifi but it's compatible with B and G and works like a charm in firefox and has bridging So it isn't cheap anymore, isnt it? When I look around through my spare parts I have so many nice/good 100mb ethernet cards lying around and thats enough for all ADSL connections I know of. Jobst On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DSL-502T that I am just running as the router too, it is only about 6 months old, it works fine with all the linux clients in my place too. It isn't doing dhcp or DNS though as these are handled elsewhere. AFAIK the DSL-502T is running linux. I have had some issues with the latest firmware as some of the config pages don't render in firefox, which is majorly annoying, it used to be the other way around that they didn't render in IE on my solitary windows box. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- -- Regards Morgan Storey Senior Network and Security Consultant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn lies, and statistics. - Disraeli | |0| | Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], General Manager | | |0| Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L |0|0|0| +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:52 +1100, xorprime wrote: 108mb wifi units-pedant-mode Wow, 0.108 bits per second, isn't that a bit slow? I thought only military submarines used that? Perhaps you meant 108Mb/s. /units-pedant-mode Regards Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\/\*http://miller.emu.id.au/pmiller/ PGP public key ID: 1024D/D0EDB64D fingerprint = AD0A C5DF C426 4F03 5D53 2BDB 18D8 A4E2 D0ED B64D See http://www.keyserver.net or any PGP keyserver for public key. Real Programmers' programs never work right the first time. But if you throw them on the machine they can be patched into working in 'only a few' 30-hour debugging sessions. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Oh well, make it Mb/s then ;-) On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:52 +1100, xorprime wrote: 108mb wifi units-pedant-mode Wow, 0.108 bits per second, isn't that a bit slow? I thought only military submarines used that? Perhaps you meant 108Mb/s. /units-pedant-mode -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Don't stop there! You probably mean bits not b(ytes) and mebi not mega, so it's 108 Mibit/s See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 12:50:54PM +1100, xorprime wrote: Oh well, make it Mb/s then ;-) On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:52 +1100, xorprime wrote: 108mb wifi units-pedant-mode Wow, 0.108 bits per second, isn't that a bit slow? I thought only military submarines used that? Perhaps you meant 108Mb/s. /units-pedant-mode -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 09:42 +1100, Peter Hardy wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. I use one of those, in bridging mode. Happy apart from no Annex M support (for increased uplink speeds). -- Glen Turner http://www.gdt.id.au/~gdt/ 0416 295 857 or +61 416 295 857 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
I call shenanigans! On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 16:22 +1100, Matthew Hannigan wrote: Don't stop there! You probably mean bits not b(ytes) and mebi not mega, so it's 108 Mibit/s 1) It's mibi not mebi. 2) The same standard that defines mibi- as a prefix (IEEE 1541 [1]) specifies that b is the symbol for bits, and B should be used for bytes. In practical use, though, I tend to see either bits or B. -- Pete, who measures his traffic in gross nybbles to reduce confusion. [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Hi all, I've been banging my head against my adsl modem and I wondering if it might not just be easier/cheaper to replace it with something better. Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. Cheers, Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Fifty years of programming language research, and we end up with C++ ??? --Richard A. O'Keefe -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
On 28/02/2008, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been banging my head against my adsl modem and I wondering if it might not just be easier/cheaper to replace it with something better. Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I've been using a Thompson SpeedTouch 536 in straight bridge mode in front of a WRT54GL (OpenWrt) with the WRT handling the pppoe dialing but your modem should handle it in bridge mode OK. When you switch to bridge mode you usually lose administrative access to the modem. I haven't played with half bridging so not much help there. This is with Bigpong and it needs the pppoe username and password. You could try seeing if it works in gateway? mode before switching to bridge? With this modem in gateway mode it has a fairly good CLI. Tony -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADSL modem recommendations (with bridging)
Hey hey. On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:11 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anybody recommend an ADSL modem that does up to an including ADSL2+, is Linux friendly and easy to set up in bridging or half bridging mode? It would also be nice if the adminstrative functions were still accessible when it is in bridging mode. I have a D-Link DSL-502T, which is a couple of years old by now. It had a lot of problems with Linux clients when it was running as a gateway - the Linux resolver just didn't play nicely with its name service. But I'm using it in full bridge mode now in front of a WRT-54G and have no complaints. Don't think they do half-bridging. But flipping it into full bridging mode is a snap, and the internal interface keeps the address that was assigned to it, so the admin interface is still accessible. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
