Re: [SLUG] Internet at 500m

2014-05-23 Thread Jeremy Visser

On 23/05/2014 02:57, Rick Welykochy wrote:

I have a friend living in near jungle conditions in a small town
in the Philipines that wishes to span about 400m - 500m from
an Internet connection to his house in the bush.


Buy a pair of Ubiquiti NanoStation M5 units.  Cheap as chips, easy 
web-based configuration, and software platform originates from a 
modified OpenWrt (source code available, but doubt you will find the 
need to recompile).


http://www.ubnt.com/airmax#nanostationm

Your friend will want to find a local reseller based in the Philippines. 
 Given that Ubiquiti thrives in that sort of market, you are unlikely 
to have any difficulty obtaining the hardware.


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[SLUG] Internet at 500m

2014-05-22 Thread Rick Welykochy

Hi Sluggers,

I have a friend living in near jungle conditions in a small town
in the Philipines that wishes to span about 400m - 500m from
an Internet connection to his house in the bush.

Ethernet seems limited to 100m.
Wifi seems limited to about 100m - 200m.
Any suggestions for bridging this gap?

thanks,
rickw


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Re: [SLUG] Internet at 500m

2014-05-22 Thread Jason Ball
The old Pringles\milo tin antenna/yagi may do the trick.I know people
had some interesting results, although unimpeded line of sight will be
needed.



On Friday, 23 May 2014, Rick Welykochy r...@vitendo.ca wrote:

 Hi Sluggers,

 I have a friend living in near jungle conditions in a small town
 in the Philipines that wishes to span about 400m - 500m from
 an Internet connection to his house in the bush.

 Ethernet seems limited to 100m.
 Wifi seems limited to about 100m - 200m.
 Any suggestions for bridging this gap?

 thanks,
 rickw


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Re: [SLUG] Internet at 500m

2014-05-22 Thread David Lyon
Have they seen products like this?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/150Mbps-high-power-outdoor-wi-fi-wireless-outdoor-wireless-access-point-cpe-equipment/1489776809.html



On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Rick Welykochy r...@vitendo.ca wrote:

 Hi Sluggers,

 I have a friend living in near jungle conditions in a small town
 in the Philipines that wishes to span about 400m - 500m from
 an Internet connection to his house in the bush.

 Ethernet seems limited to 100m.
 Wifi seems limited to about 100m - 200m.
 Any suggestions for bridging this gap?

 thanks,
 rickw


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Re: [SLUG] Internet at 500m

2014-05-22 Thread Ken Foskey
There is a reflector that uses tin foil and catdboard to focus the signal.  
Uses a hyperbola like head lights

  First thing is to get a good wireless first.  I had a wrt54g and it was 
excellent everything since has been rubbish and I did my research.

Sydney wireless was getting up to 2 klm for wireless but they were boosting 
signals and using specialist aerials

Use different channels to span multiple hops.

On 23 May 2014 2:57:44 AM AEST, Rick Welykochy r...@vitendo.ca wrote:
Hi Sluggers,

I have a friend living in near jungle conditions in a small town
in the Philipines that wishes to span about 400m - 500m from
an Internet connection to his house in the bush.

Ethernet seems limited to 100m.
Wifi seems limited to about 100m - 200m.
Any suggestions for bridging this gap?

thanks,
rickw


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Re: [SLUG] Internet at 500m

2014-05-22 Thread Jason Ball
The high gain antenna would work, just feed it with some decent coax so
there actually is some signal.   LMR400 or similar.

J.




On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Ken Foskey kfos...@tpg.com.au wrote:

 There is a reflector that uses tin foil and catdboard to focus the signal.
  Uses a hyperbola like head lights

   First thing is to get a good wireless first.  I had a wrt54g and it was
 excellent everything since has been rubbish and I did my research.

 Sydney wireless was getting up to 2 klm for wireless but they were
 boosting signals and using specialist aerials

 Use different channels to span multiple hops.

 On 23 May 2014 2:57:44 AM AEST, Rick Welykochy r...@vitendo.ca wrote:
 Hi Sluggers,
 
 I have a friend living in near jungle conditions in a small town
 in the Philipines that wishes to span about 400m - 500m from
 an Internet connection to his house in the bush.
 
 Ethernet seems limited to 100m.
 Wifi seems limited to about 100m - 200m.
 Any suggestions for bridging this gap?
 
 thanks,
 rickw
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Internet at 500m

2014-05-22 Thread Edwin Humphries (text)

Rick

Last time I checked (and I'm going from memory), there were high power 
access points that put out 20-25dBa, instead of the 8-12dBa that is 
standard (that's 500mW, instead of around 18mW).


There are also commercial directional antennas, such as Yagi and 
backfire antennas, with gains of up to 16dBi. But, as Jason said, there 
is a need for them to be line-of-sight. If that's not possible, you may 
need an antenna with circular polarisation - these are more expensive. 
But most are not suited for dual frequency signals (and in any event you 
probably won't get a 5MHz signal to propagate 500m).


Of course, you should plan on two matched antennas.

Regards
Edwin Humphries

On 23/05/14 02:57, Rick Welykochy wrote:

Hi Sluggers,

I have a friend living in near jungle conditions in a small town
in the Philipines that wishes to span about 400m - 500m from
an Internet connection to his house in the bush.

Ethernet seems limited to 100m.
Wifi seems limited to about 100m - 200m.
Any suggestions for bridging this gap?

thanks,
rickw



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Re: [SLUG] Internet at 500m

2014-05-22 Thread David

Hi...

I'm the proud possessor of a pair of  Ultrawap access points. They were 
used for years over a 200metre line of sight connection and worked 
perfectly. I believe you can attach yagi's to them to extend their range 
if the standard aerial isn't good enough.


They are now surplus to my requirements if you are interested.



On 23/05/14 02:57, Rick Welykochy wrote:

Hi Sluggers,

I have a friend living in near jungle conditions in a small town
in the Philipines that wishes to span about 400m - 500m from
an Internet connection to his house in the bush.

Ethernet seems limited to 100m.
Wifi seems limited to about 100m - 200m.
Any suggestions for bridging this gap?

thanks,
rickw




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Re: [SLUG] Internet at 500m

2014-05-22 Thread Rick Welykochy

Hey Penguinistas,

Thanks to all for loads of useful info on extending my friend
Andy's digital reach in the Philipine jungle. I will pass on all
replies to him.

He is a Linux developer. I've worked with him on a Python + Qt
project. So you are helping one of the converted.

cheers
rickw




Rick Welykochy wrote:

Hi Sluggers,

I have a friend living in near jungle conditions in a small town
in the Philipines that wishes to span about 400m - 500m from
an Internet connection to his house in the bush.

Ethernet seems limited to 100m.
Wifi seems limited to about 100m - 200m.
Any suggestions for bridging this gap?

thanks,
rickw





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