[SLUG] MS Linux gets closer
Whilst not directly releasing its own distribution Microsoft may use its recent deal with Corel to "ease itself into the open source community" according this article by the National Post Online http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20001012/426367.html Kind regards Kevin Waterson -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer
My concern here is that M$ might use its clout to challenge the GPL and try to distribute its own "no source code" version. -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whilst not directly releasing its own distribution Microsoft may use its recent deal with Corel to "ease itself into the open source community" according this article by the National Post Online http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20001012/426367.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer
A "no source code" version of linux or of the ".NET" applications? Doesn't products like Vmware already do this? All I've ever seen on the Vmware site is binaries. Correct me if I'm wrong (cos I've never actually read the GPL, just got the general jist of it) doesn't the GPL only apply if you have used source code from a GPL program in your own program that you are then obliged to release your program under the GPL as well? So long as VMware hasn't used a single line of GPL code (and alternately Corel when they port the m$ .NET crud) then they are ok to give you just binaries, aren't they? Or is one of the .NET programs going to be a MS Linux? My understanding of the article was that they were going to port MS applications to linux, not redesign linux such that it works with the applications (Although that would probably be SOP for MS.) Paul Howard Lowndes wrote: My concern here is that M$ might use its clout to challenge the GPL and try to distribute its own "no source code" version. -- Howard. __ LANNet Computing Associates http://www.lannet.com.au On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whilst not directly releasing its own distribution Microsoft may use its recent deal with Corel to "ease itself into the open source community" according this article by the National Post Online http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20001012/426367.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer
My concern here is that M$ might use its clout to challenge the GPL and try to distribute its own "no source code" version. -- Howard. ...and thus undermine the whole basis of the open source free software movement. Make no mistake, it is the GPL that poses the greatest threat to Microsoft and its business model, not Linux per se. They will stop at nothing to try to pervert it. -- David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Ich fuhle, Luft von anderen Planeten" Note: No Microsoft programs were used in the creation or distribution of this message. If you are using a Microsoft program to view this message, be forewarned that I am not responsible for any harm you may encounter as a result. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer
The way I see this is, that MS is testing the GPL water with a relatively small investment (at least small for MS). Naturally they will want to get MS products running on Linux. Even though that will get people upset I think it is a good thing, because we then get an opportunity to offer Linux as a desktop operating system alternative to WIN, because most people do not give a hoot about what OS they are running as long as it has a GUI and Linux has no shortage of that (as we all know) and as along as it runs the generally accepted Office packages, which (unfortunately) are mostly WORD and EXCEL. I also would prefer them running none-MS products. However one needs be realistic, that most decision makers in businesses are affected by the MS hipe and therefore perceive MS to be the "better" solution and often choose MS products over others against the better advise of their computing specialists, even though other (incl. desktop) applications are better in relality. However on the other hand it gives us the opportunity to directly compare MS with other products on the same platform. I see that as a advantage as long as those other products actually are able to compete in function and reliablity. So my suggestion to the other Linux office suite developers (if there's any listening) is: Pullup your socks. Now is the time to market your product. And it needs to be marketed as a total solution including the OS (Linux) and it needs to be able to easily handle (open and close and create MS .doc and .xls files). Pricewise there is a lot of scope for a good package, because you will be competing with MS not only with the other Linux office suite developers. Bernhard Luder ICQ 26070583 P.S. Now shoot me down in flames. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2000 07:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer Whilst not directly releasing its own distribution Microsoft may use its recent deal with Corel to "ease itself into the open source community" according this article by the National Post Online http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20001012/426367.htm l Kind regards Kevin Waterson -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MS Linux gets closer
[MS buying a stake in Corel, and what it means, esp. viz. .net] I saw a recent discussion of this on slashdot recently. Contained there are a number of interesting posts, basically along the lines of 'looking at chicken entrails'. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/1454212mode=thread An interesting view of some of the things purported to be in .net, (also got this from slashdot) is at http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/research/mercury/information/dotnet/mercury_and_dotnet.html This is from the mercury language group at Monash uni. (Mercury is a functional language.) Also, I found this, might be of use: http://www.objectwatch.com/issue_29.htm My take? Well, sometimes the chicken entrails tell me it looks like an attack on Sun's Java. Perhaps a reaction to Star Office (source recently released as GPL)? Star Office does an excellent job of handling those legacy spreadsheet and document formats. Or maybe it's an attempt to project the idea that MS has some fantastic new technology, so stop looking at that Linux stuff, look over here at us. The cross platform server systems must be a worry to MS. The top end servers doesn't look good for MS. And game consoles, well that's a worry too. Hence Xbox. Where does the future lie? The crystal ball fogs up. One little device, but still too expensive, is intriguing. http://www.egnite.de/ethernut/ I'm convinced we will see a plethora of 'tiny devices', interconnected. Jamie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
