[SLUG] MX problem ?

2008-06-09 Thread Voytek Eymont
one of my users received a reject from an attempted inbound mail as below,
I'm a bit perplexed as to where from is remote mail server looking for
host autopack.com.au ?

domain's mx is 'bilby.sbt.net.au', and, there is no probs that I can see,
any thoughts ?

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 BELOW IS THE REJECT INFO RECEIVED ON MY LAST JUNE 4th EMAIL.


 -Mensaje original-
 De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviado el: MiƩrcoles, 04 de Junio de 2008 02:27 p.m.
 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: failure notice


 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at
 smtpauth19.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to
 deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent
 error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
 Sorry, I couldn't find any host named autopack.com.au?. (#5.1.2)


 --- Below this line is a copy of the message.


 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: (qmail 26989 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2008 19:26:39 -
 Received: from unknown (189.136.82.223)
 by smtpauth19.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.30) with ESMTP; 04
 Jun 2008 19:26:35 -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:26:32 -0500
 Message-ID:
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Re: [SLUG] MX problem ?

2008-06-09 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008, Voytek Eymont wrote:
 one of my users received a reject from an attempted inbound mail as below,
 I'm a bit perplexed as to where from is remote mail server looking for
 host autopack.com.au ?
 
 domain's mx is 'bilby.sbt.net.au', and, there is no probs that I can see,
 any thoughts ?

Likely a spammer forging your user's address in the Envelope-From. The
sequence goes something like this:

 - spamming server connects to recipient server and claims to be sending
   mail from your user[1]
 - recipient server realises that the recipient address doesn't exist
   and rejects it
 - if this rejection cannot be passed live back to the sending server, a
   bounce mail is generated and sent to the *claimed* sender

This is particularly common with qmail, I understand, because (at least
when I last used it) it does not reject mail during a live SMTP
transaction with the sending server, but rather accepts mail and then
sends out bounces in a second transaction.

It's possible with other mail programs if there were several servers in
the sending sequence, the last of them gets the live reject but does not
still have a connection to the server that sent to it, so it generates a
bounce.

Anyway, there's not a lot you can do about it as neither the spamming
server nor the recipient server are under your control, except subject
bounce messages to spam filtering.

-Mary

[1] By default, this is totally acceptable in SMTP, any server can
send mail claiming to be from any person.
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Re: [SLUG] MX problem ?

2008-06-09 Thread Mick Pollard
Hi all,

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:44:45 +1000 (EST)
Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 one of my users received a reject from an attempted inbound mail as below,
 I'm a bit perplexed as to where from is remote mail server looking for
 host autopack.com.au ?
 
 domain's mx is 'bilby.sbt.net.au', and, there is no probs that I can see,
 any thoughts ?
 
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  BELOW IS THE REJECT INFO RECEIVED ON MY LAST JUNE 4th EMAIL.
 
 
  -Mensaje original-
  De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Enviado el: MiƩrcoles, 04 de Junio de 2008 02:27 p.m.
  Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Asunto: failure notice
 
 
  Hi. This is the qmail-send program at
  smtpauth19.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to
  deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent
  error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  Sorry, I couldn't find any host named autopack.com.au?. (#5.1.2)
 
One thing I can see here is the space at the end of the address, which then 
ends up looking like autopack.com.au?
Notice the ? 
This may be the problem.


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Re: [SLUG] MX problem ?

2008-06-09 Thread Voytek Eymont
Mick, 

thanks, I think you spotted something, I'll check that
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.. Original Message ...
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:17:02 +1000 

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  Sorry, I couldn't find any host named autopack.com.au?. (#5.1.2)
 
One thing I can see here is the space at the end of the address, which 
then ends up looking like autopack.com.au?
Notice the ? 
This may be the problem.

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[SLUG] MX problem with sendmail

2001-01-14 Thread Howard Lowndes

Can someone remind me what the fix is for the following sendmail error:
553 some.domain.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)

I know it is in the bat book somewhere, but I just cannot find it.

Howard.

LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com
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Re: [SLUG] MX problem with sendmail

2001-01-14 Thread John Clarke

On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:15:18PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote:

 Can someone remind me what the fix is for the following sendmail error:
 553 some.domain.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)

http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section4.html#4.5

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] MX problem with sendmail

2001-01-14 Thread Marty

 Can someone remind me what the fix is for the following sendmail error:
 553 some.domain.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
 
 I know it is in the bat book somewhere, but I just cannot find it.

google search: "mail loops back to me" site:sendmail.org

http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section4.html#4.5

 
I'm getting these error messages:

553 MX list for domain.net points back to relay.domain.net
554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Local configuration error

How can I solve this problem?  You have asked mail to a domain (e.g.,
domain.net) to be forwarded to a specific host (in this case,
relay.domain.net) by using an MX record, but the relay machine doesn't
recognize itself as domain.net. Add domain.net to
/etc/mail/local-host-names [known as /etc/sendmail.cw prior to version
8.10] (if you are using FEATURE(`use_cw_file')) or add "Cw domain.net" to
your configuration file. 

There are a couple of additional cases where you don't actually want local
delivery, and thus adding domain.net to class w is not the right fix:

1) When relay.domain.net should just be acting as a forwarder, e.g. a
firewall/gateway box. The proper fix could be to set up a mailertable
entry for domain.net.  

2) When relay.domain.net is a secondary (etc.) MX, and the MX mistakenly
points to a CNAME or other "non-canonical" name [this gives "config error: 
mail loops back to me (MX problem?)"]. The proper fix is to point the MX
at the actual name, a "work-around" to add the MX target to class w. 


hth
marty



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Re: [SLUG] MX problem with sendmail

2001-01-14 Thread Howard Lowndes

Tks for the reponses.  It was in /etc/sendmail.cw and has now moves to
/etc/mail/local-host-name.

Quoting Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Can someone remind me what the fix is for the following sendmail error:
 553 some.domain.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
 
 I know it is in the bat book somewhere, but I just cannot find it.
 
 Howard.
 
 LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com
"...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!"
 
 
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