Re: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations

2001-06-23 Thread Ben Donohue

Actually it is a joke but it has a more sinister twist for those SLUG members who are 
easily led. It is primarliy there to make people laugh at religion. Whether you are 
religious or not, it's aim is to do something rediculous under the supposed banner of 
religion. Then when you see how rediculous their claim is, you associate that 
rediculousness with religion.

You could imagine a similar situation where Microsoft covertly puts out a stupid claim 
about something under the banner of Linux and its devotees. They then send this claim 
to corporate decision makers who might be making a decision about whether to use Linux 
or not. However because they recieved this rediculous information they assume that 
using Linux is on a
par with stupidity. They don't want to look stupid and so they don't use Linux. See 
the logic? It's the association of one with the other.

It's actually almost boring that they can't come up with something more ingenious 
against religion. Yawn. And I'm sure that I don't need to reinforce it any further 
with SLUG members. Treat it with the contempt it deserves and throw it in the SPAM bin 
- /dev/nul.

Ben Donohue




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Re: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations

2001-06-23 Thread Tom Massey

On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 10:09:29PM +1000, Ben Donohue wrote:
 Actually it is a joke but it has a more sinister twist for those
 SLUG members who are easily led. 

I'm sure such a beast does not exist. You ever tried leading a penguin?
'Tis more difficult than herding cats. (And look it up in the Jargon file,
cats are most definitely more hackerly than any other domesticated animal). 

 It is primarliy there to make 
 people laugh at religion. Whether you are religious or not, it's 
 aim is to do something rediculous under the supposed banner of religion. 

No. It's aim as I see it is to show the ridiculous nature of one group of
rather fundamentalist Christians deciding what will be acceptable on the
Web. This site in no way makes fun of people who follow Christ's teachings;
it shows the arrogant absurdity of those who seek to impose their own version
of Christianity/morality on the rest of the Web.

 Then when you see how rediculous their claim is, you associate that
 rediculousness with religion.

'Tis a cheap shot I know, but please use a spell checker. Unless your aim
is to ridicule Red Symons (you do have to be from Melbourne to qualify for
that I hope you realise) I believe he has a trademark on 'rediculous'. It
appears he will also crash Mozilla free of charge. A great Aussie icon
indeed. So long as you don't click on him. :-)

 You could imagine a similar situation where Microsoft covertly puts out
 a stupid claim about something under the banner of Linux and its devotees. 

Do you really think this would have much effect? Five minutes after such a 
thing was posted, you'd get 500 posts to various news sites declaiming the
desperate straits MS was in if they did this sort of thing. Hell, in five
minutes, Slashdot would have released five stories/updates describing the
dastardly tactics of MS. And then where would they be? MS would be back to
herding penguins I expect.
 
 They don't want to look stupid and so they don't use Linux. See the logic?
 It's the association of one with the other.

I think your problem with this site is that you think that it's saying that
religion==stupid. I don't see this at all. I think the basic message here is
that if you let any one group take control over the net, then you will be
eaten by a grue. Because your lamp will have gone out, and you'll be groping
forwards into blackness not even realising that Pitr has a box of matches
and is standing right next to you. (Pitr gallantly standing in for any
opinions that differ in any degree from your own). (And has anybody actually
completed a successful kernel config using ESRs CML2 make advent? Damn I 
hate grues at this point in time. I shall beat this game soon... :-).

 It's actually almost boring that they can't come up with something more
 ingenious against religion. 

Seriously, it's only against the worst aspects of religion, if anything. I'm
kind of sorry for you if you can't see that, you must have a very narrow view
of religion.

 Treat it with the contempt it deserves and throw it in the SPAM bin - /dev/nul

Dang, I wish I wasn't such a basically nice guy and could laugh at the missing
'l' there.

Further_discussion-/dev/slug-chat
Flames-/dev/me 

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Re: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations

2001-06-23 Thread Steve Kowalik

On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 10:09:29PM +1000, Ben Donohue uttered:
 It's actually almost boring that they can't come up with something more ingenious 
against religion. Yawn. And I'm sure that I don't need to reinforce it any further 
with SLUG members. Treat it with the contempt it deserves and throw it in the SPAM 
bin - /dev/nul.
 
Of course, that's supposed to be '/dev/null'

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Re: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations

2001-06-23 Thread Jon Carnes

On Saturday 23 June 2001 00:07, Andrew Bennetts wrote:
 Very cute.  I wonder who sent it.  See:

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/19878.html

 -Andrew.

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[SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations

2001-06-22 Thread Net Authority Investigations

Dear slug,

It has recently been brought to our attention that you are, or have been, in violation 
of the Net Authority Acceptable Internet Usage Guidelines. It has been reported that 
you distribute offensive materials over the Internet.

Net Authority has investigated these claims and verified that they are true.

As a result, your personal information has been added to one or more Net Authority 
Internet offender databases. Your information will be stored in the databases until 
enough evidence has been gathered against you to warrant further actions. To help 
avoid such a situation, it is strongly recommended that you cease your immoral actions 
on the Internet at once.

You have been added to the following databases:
 - Hate Literature Offenders
 - General Blasphemy Offenders

If you would like more information about Net Authority or the Net Authority Acceptable 
Internet Usage Guidelines, you may read the details at http://www.netauthority.org/. 
It is imperative that you fully understand the guidelines if you wish to avoid further 
prosecution.

May God be with you as you struggle to overcome these evil impulses. You will be in 
our prayers at night.

God speed,

Net Authority Investigations Department
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.netauthority.org/

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Re: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations

2001-06-22 Thread Dean Hamstead

Is this a joke???


Dean

Net Authority Investigations wrote:

 Dear slug,
 
 It has recently been brought to our attention that you are, or have been, in 
violation of the Net Authority Acceptable Internet Usage Guidelines. It has been 
reported that you distribute offensive materials over the Internet.
 
 Net Authority has investigated these claims and verified that they are true.
 
 As a result, your personal information has been added to one or more Net Authority 
Internet offender databases. Your information will be stored in the databases until 
enough evidence has been gathered against you to warrant further actions. To help 
avoid such a situation, it is strongly recommended that you cease your immoral 
actions on the Internet at once.
 
 You have been added to the following databases:
  - Hate Literature Offenders
  - General Blasphemy Offenders
 
 If you would like more information about Net Authority or the Net Authority 
Acceptable Internet Usage Guidelines, you may read the details at 
http://www.netauthority.org/. It is imperative that you fully understand the 
guidelines if you wish to avoid further prosecution.
 
 May God be with you as you struggle to overcome these evil impulses. You will be in 
our prayers at night.
 
 God speed,
 
 Net Authority Investigations Department
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.netauthority.org/
 
 



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Re: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations

2001-06-22 Thread Matthew Moor

Oh Geez. This is classic. :)

From their FAQ:

Do people ever get wrongfully added to your databases?
One complaint that people often have with us is that they were added to our
databases in error. We have come to the conclusion that this is rarely the
case.
People often claim that they were added by their friends as a practical
joke. Now, consider this scenario. A young man, let's call him Ray, notices
that his friend, let's call her Jody, has been acting a little strange. She
is much more aloof around family and friends, and she has been spending a
lot more time at the computer. These are clear, tell-tale signs that Jody is
exploring illegal pornography on the Internet. Out of fear for the safety of
both Jody, and the Internet as a whole, Ray reports Jody as an offender and
she is added to our database.
Imagine now that Jody discovers that Ray has added her. She confronts him,
and what does he say? Out of the fear that she may get angry, and possibly
violent with him, he says he added her as a practical joke. You see? Even
though Ray added Jody to the database out of genuine concern for the
Internet, Jody has been led to believe it was simply a practical joke.

From About Net Authority:

The Net Authority is a group of individuals who have taken it upon
themselves to govern the Internet. We have waited patiently and in vain for
the World's governments to put their resources together and develop a
standard set of guildelines for what material should be permitted on the
Internet, and what should not. We have prayed without answer for a
centralized agency with the power and the means to stop crimes against
humanity on the Internet. The time for waiting has ended. Clearly we, the
people, must take matters into our own hands. Net Authority writes those
guidelines. Net Authority is that agency.

- Original Message -
From: Net Authority Investigations [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: slug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations


: Dear slug,
:
: It has recently been brought to our attention that you are, or have been,
in violation of the Net Authority Acceptable Internet Usage Guidelines. It
has been reported that you distribute offensive materials over the Internet.
:
: Net Authority has investigated these claims and verified that they are
true.
:
: As a result, your personal information has been added to one or more Net
Authority Internet offender databases. Your information will be stored in
the databases until enough evidence has been gathered against you to warrant
further actions. To help avoid such a situation, it is strongly recommended
that you cease your immoral actions on the Internet at once.
:
: You have been added to the following databases:
:  - Hate Literature Offenders
:  - General Blasphemy Offenders
:
: If you would like more information about Net Authority or the Net
Authority Acceptable Internet Usage Guidelines, you may read the details at
http://www.netauthority.org/. It is imperative that you fully understand the
guidelines if you wish to avoid further prosecution.
:
: May God be with you as you struggle to overcome these evil impulses. You
will be in our prayers at night.
:
: God speed,
:
: Net Authority Investigations Department
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: http://www.netauthority.org/
:
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Re: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations

2001-06-22 Thread Andrew Bennetts

Very cute.  I wonder who sent it.  See:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/19878.html

-Andrew.

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Re: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations

2001-06-22 Thread enterfornone

 You have been added to the following databases:
  - Hate Literature Offenders
  - General Blasphemy Offenders

Well hate literature I can understand, but in what religion is flaming
Microsoft considered blasphemy?

Well Gates did buy evil from Satan, so I guess he is a diety of sorts.


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Re: [SLUG] Notification of Internet Violations

2001-06-22 Thread Paul Robinson

From reading their definition of hate literature offenders (ie that one 
groups views are superior to another) they are in breach of their own 
guidelines :)

(it won't let you add their own email address to the database 
unfortunately...)

Paul

On Saturday 23 June 2001 15:16, Dean Hamstead mumbled something about:
 Is this a joke???


 Dean

 Net Authority Investigations wrote:
  Dear slug,


remove crud

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