[SLUG] Open source groupware solutions

2007-05-08 Thread Peter Hardy
Hey hey.

Because it's been about a year since this last came up on the SLUG list,
and because I have a need for something like this soon, I'd be
interested to hear what people are using for groupware these days.

I'd like something that can share contacts / calendars / tasks across a
fairly mixed environment - evolution, thunderbird and sunbird/lightning
on Windows and Linux, and Outlook 2k3.

We initially considered just exporting calendars to a WebDAV share. This
seems to be a workable solution, but I have my doubts about how well
a .htaccess scheme to allow access would scale to an office of around 40
users.
On a similar note, CalDAV or GroupDAV look like attractive solutions to
drop in to an existing environment as well. But from some brief
googling, it seems that Outlook support for either of these protocols
are limited at best. Has anybody had any success syncing Outlook with
one of these servers?

I've also looked at Scalix in the best, and like what I see. My only
issue with it so far is that I'd prefer to keep my existing mail
infrastructure. Is it possible for it to co-exist with an existing IMAP
service?

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Re: [SLUG] Open source groupware solutions

2007-05-08 Thread Craige McWhirter
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 16:24 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:

 I've also looked at Scalix in the best, and like what I see. My only
 issue with it so far is that I'd prefer to keep my existing mail
 infrastructure. Is it possible for it to co-exist with an existing IMAP
 service?

Is this for you personally or for a professional office deployment? The
answer for IMAP co-existence will be markedly different depending on
how the deployment is going to be used.

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Re: [SLUG] Open source groupware solutions

2007-05-08 Thread Joseph Goncalves
On Tue, 8 May 2007, Peter Hardy wrote:
 Hey hey.

 I'd like something that can share contacts / calendars / tasks across
 a fairly mixed environment - evolution, thunderbird and
 sunbird/lightning on Windows and Linux, and Outlook 2k3.

 We initially considered just exporting calendars to a WebDAV share.
 This seems to be a workable solution, but I have my doubts about how
 well a .htaccess scheme to allow access would scale to an office of
 around 40 users.
 On a similar note, CalDAV or GroupDAV look like attractive solutions
 to drop in to an existing environment as well. But from some brief
 googling, it seems that Outlook support for either of these protocols
 are limited at best. Has anybody had any success syncing Outlook with
 one of these servers?

Have you considered using a hosted service like Google calendar? Google 
calendar can be synchronised with your desktop applications using 
GSyncDaemon which is a java application that works well with Windows 
and Linux. It has a Windows installer, but I have mine working with 
Gentoo Linux, but I had to install the app without a Gentoo package. I 
don't know if there are any packages for other distros. 

I use GooSync hosted service to sync my Google calendar with my phone 
using SyncML protocol.

I would say Google calendar is good for small to medium size companies 
and I don't know if Google calendar scale well within an organisational 
so you may consider hosting something yourself using eGroupware or 
phpGroupware. It seems that eGroupware has better support and 
eGroupware allows you to sync calendar to mobile phones and pda through 
SyncML protocol. I have done preliminary research on these applications 
so I don't know how well they work.


 I've also looked at Scalix in the best, and like what I see. My only
 issue with it so far is that I'd prefer to keep my existing mail
 infrastructure. Is it possible for it to co-exist with an existing
 IMAP service?

I'm not sure how phpGroupware or eGroupware works with existing IMAP 
infrastructure. 

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Re: [SLUG] Open source groupware solutions

2007-05-08 Thread Steven Tucker
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 16:24 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:

 I'd like something that can share contacts / calendars / tasks across a
 fairly mixed environment - evolution, thunderbird and sunbird/lightning
 on Windows and Linux, and Outlook 2k3.

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 Pete
I ve used and loved Zimbra, I often try out Scalix when I see some
propaganda, but keep going back to Zimbra. From what you have said, I
think it would be a good fit

Tuxta

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Re: [SLUG] Open source groupware solutions

2007-05-08 Thread Zhasper

On 08/05/07, Joseph Goncalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Have you considered using a hosted service like Google calendar? Google
calendar can be synchronised with your desktop applications using
GSyncDaemon which is a java application that works well with Windows
and Linux. It has a Windows installer, but I have mine working with
Gentoo Linux, but I had to install the app without a Gentoo package. I
don't know if there are any packages for other distros.



Google isn't the only choice; there's also zoho.com, and there are a few
other players as well.

I use Spanning Sync(.com) with my Mac; it nicely pushes the data into iSync
and thus into the standard apps. It also then pushes everything nicely to my
phone, and also takes everything the other way.

You didn't mention any macs though, only windows and linux, so my babblings
will stop now. If you've got a windows environment, you should be able to
sync the Google Calendar with Outlook and then use your phone's sync
software to sync that with your phone.

I would say Google calendar is good for small to medium size companies

and I don't know if Google calendar scale well within an organisational
so you may consider hosting something yourself using eGroupware or
phpGroupware. It seems that eGroupware has better support and
eGroupware allows you to sync calendar to mobile phones and pda through
SyncML protocol. I have done preliminary research on these applications
so I don't know how well they work.




Google Calendar also has some nice features re: sharing calendars and
free/busy information with other people in your organisation, and also makes
shared/team/joint calendars easy, as well as calendars for resources such as
meeting rooms, projectors, etc.

But, you do have to keep in mind that you're shipping what could be your
highly confidential internal information off to Google's servers, and you
may or may not think that's acceptable.


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Re: [SLUG] Open source groupware solutions

2007-05-08 Thread Peter Hardy
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 17:36 +1000, Craige McWhirter wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 16:24 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:
 
  I've also looked at Scalix in the best, and like what I see. My only
  issue with it so far is that I'd prefer to keep my existing mail
  infrastructure. Is it possible for it to co-exist with an existing IMAP
  service?
 
 Is this for you personally or for a professional office deployment? The
 answer for IMAP co-existence will be markedly different depending on
 how the deployment is going to be used.

Professional office deployment.

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Re: [SLUG] Open source groupware solutions

2007-05-08 Thread Peter Hardy
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 21:21 +1000, Steven Tucker wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 16:24 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:
 
  I'd like something that can share contacts / calendars / tasks across a
  fairly mixed environment - evolution, thunderbird and sunbird/lightning
  on Windows and Linux, and Outlook 2k3.
 
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  Pete
 I ve used and loved Zimbra, I often try out Scalix when I see some
 propaganda, but keep going back to Zimbra. From what you have said, I
 think it would be a good fit

Thanks, Zimbra hasn't really been on my radar at all. I'll check it out.

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Re: [SLUG] Open source groupware solutions

2007-05-08 Thread Craige McWhirter
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 10:23 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote:

 Professional office deployment.

IMAP co-existence will really, really, really bug people.

Scalix supports IMAP and it works fine but I would strongly recommending
accessing Scalix via the Scalix plugins for Outlook or Evolution. To
co-exist with an IMAP account confuses people.

I do use the IMAP connection for services such as Blackberry's.

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