Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 14:22, Andre Pang wrote: heard of Win4Lin. It runs Windows 9x (95/98/ME) very well, and there are extremely few hiccups with it. Compatibility is extremely high since you're running Windows inside a virtual machine -- but the VM is _much_ faster than VMware. What apps are you running? I see on their page that you can run Palm Desktop which interests me. Evolution support for Palm is not bad but I would be interested in running the guaranteed compatible one (okay, if I ever get good enough I could work on gpilotd/evolution etc). Have you/anyone tried running something similar that needs to talk to com/Ir ports? Office-ish stuff and Windows applications, it's by far the best thing out there. It's fast, it's stable, and it just works. Sounds useful. I bought a copy, I'm going to buy another one soon, and I have no idea how I'd live without it. www.win4lin.com for details. They've mentioned that version 4 is going to be released quite soon, too (within the next few weeks). Is there any way to get an evaluation version? It seems you have top patch your kernel as well which seems extreme. Was it easy? -- * * Simon Wong* * * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 10:10, Peter Hardy wrote: http://crossover.codeweavers.com It's wine, with funky extensions. It was written to let you use win32 plugins in linux-based browsers, but also lets you run the installed programs from the commandline. The newest version, in addition to QuickTime, Word/Excel/PowerPoint viewers, and shockwave, supports WMP. Peter, have you tried out this software? Will it let you run applications too? Is it stable enough to use reliably (not including the instability of the software being run by it ;-)? I have a licensed copy of M$ Office and I might be tempted to make use of this for my wife (okay, maybe me too, but only occasionally). -- ** * Simon Wong * ** signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
P.S. I was impressed that Codeweavers WINE ran Quickbooks error free first time. Other WINE's have had trouble with Quickbooks and MYOB. No more Windows! Yeah! This is good news. Thanks for that. dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
Simon Wong wrote: On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 10:10, Peter Hardy wrote: http://crossover.codeweavers.com It's wine, with funky extensions. It was written to let you use win32 plugins in linux-based browsers, but also lets you run the installed programs from the commandline. The newest version, in addition to QuickTime, Word/Excel/PowerPoint viewers, and shockwave, supports WMP. Peter, have you tried out this software? Will it let you run applications too? Is it stable enough to use reliably (not including the instability of the software being run by it ;-)? I have a licensed copy of M$ Office and I might be tempted to make use of this for my wife (okay, maybe me too, but only occasionally). Re: Office. See the following press release: http://codeweavers.com/about/press_releases/?id=20020327 CodeWeavers CrossOver Office Enables Linux® Users To Run Microsoft Office Lotus Notes® Without Windows® Easy-to-Install Software Eliminates Microsoft OS Licensing Fees; Solution Targets Enterprise Linux Desktop Environments Re: Codeweavers: I'll add to Peter's comments with this: Codeweavers rox! I was quite impressed with their efforts. They remain open source, and charge a small fee for Crossover. (Their excellent WINE is free). And the small fees you do pay are being ploughed back into o/source :) -rickw P.S. I was impressed that Codeweavers WINE ran Quickbooks error free first time. Other WINE's have had trouble with Quickbooks and MYOB. No more Windows! Yeah! -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited *Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime...*, Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 09:14:54AM +1000, Simon Wong wrote: I have a licensed copy of M$ Office and I might be tempted to make use of this for my wife (okay, maybe me too, but only occasionally). [ re: Crossover Office ] Not to take anything away from the work that CodeWeavers have done, but I'm still surprised at the number of people who haven't heard of Win4Lin. It runs Windows 9x (95/98/ME) very well, and there are extremely few hiccups with it. Compatibility is extremely high since you're running Windows inside a virtual machine -- but the VM is _much_ faster than VMware. Its downsides are (a) no support for Windows 2000, and (b) basically no DirectX support. However, if you simply want to run Office-ish stuff and Windows applications, it's by far the best thing out there. It's fast, it's stable, and it just works. I bought a copy, I'm going to buy another one soon, and I have no idea how I'd live without it. www.win4lin.com for details. They've mentioned that version 4 is going to be released quite soon, too (within the next few weeks). -- #ozone/algorithm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - trust.in.love.to.save -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
Bill Bennett wrote: I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? When editing with it don't step on my blue suade shoes :-) Mike -- Michael Lake University of Technology, Sydney Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER = This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. = -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 17:28, Bill Bennett wrote: I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? gvim rocks It seems to have the most updates happening to it. Runs great on the other operating system as well. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
Give me my Windows Notepad any day. kicking my self what newsgroup was this again? /kicking my self I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
heh notepad is ok, but it all comes down to preference I probably use too many editors, joe and sometimes jed on console (or vi as a last resort), nedit and bluefish in X and textpad in winblows. -- Karl Clements Everyone is stupid, its just the degree that varies reply who=Karl Bowden date=Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:27:30 +1100 Give me my Windows Notepad any day. kicking my self what newsgroup was this again? /kicking my self I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
wine /mnt/windows/windows/notepad.exe if you must... Chris On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:38:16 +1100 Karl Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh notepad is ok, but it all comes down to preference I probably use too many editors, joe and sometimes jed on console (or vi as a last resort), nedit and bluefish in X and textpad in winblows. -- Karl Clements Everyone is stupid, its just the degree that varies reply who=Karl Bowden date=Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:27:30 +1100 Give me my Windows Notepad any day. kicking my self what newsgroup was this again? /kicking my self I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
joe is great problem with using vim, is that if you go to a generic Solaris box, or telnet to it and try to edit something. You'll pull your hair out... or maybe it's just me, but for basic text editing joe is my fave. I like pico too Chris On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:38:16 +1100 Karl Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh notepad is ok, but it all comes down to preference I probably use too many editors, joe and sometimes jed on console (or vi as a last resort), nedit and bluefish in X and textpad in winblows. -- Karl Clements Everyone is stupid, its just the degree that varies reply who=Karl Bowden date=Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:27:30 +1100 Give me my Windows Notepad any day. kicking my self what newsgroup was this again? /kicking my self I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
elvis is definitively the one this vi clone simply Rocks !!! On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 12:29:24AM +1100, Ken Foskey wrote: On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 17:28, Bill Bennett wrote: I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? gvim rocks It seems to have the most updates happening to it. Runs great on the other operating system as well. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- - Jean-Francois Dive -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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wine /mnt/windows/windows/notepad.exe Anyone successful in installing Windows Media Player 7.1? I tried and it said it needed an IE version installed, so I tried to install IE5.5 only to get an error on installing IE that it could not connect to the internet. Success anyone? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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quote who=Jean-Francois Dive elvis is definitively the one this vi clone simply Rocks !!! Rather like banging two of them together. Rocks, I mean. :-) - Jeff -- The plural of lego is legouch, from when you tread on those plural on the floor in bare feet. - Telsa Gwynne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
quote who=Peter Hardy Commercial software, but well worth the price, and the money gets poured back in to wine development. Proprietary! We use Free commercial software *every* day. - Jeff -- Odd is good by the way. I knew normal in high school and normal hates me. - Mary Gardiner -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: wine (Was: Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.)
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 10:39, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Peter Hardy Commercial software, but well worth the price, and the money gets poured back in to wine development. Proprietary! We use Free commercial software *every* day. Pedant! :-) Free software, with some proprietary commercial glue, then? -- Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] AaaaAAAaaaAAA - hngh, hngh -- The Librarian (A mon^H^H^Horangutan) (Terry Pratchett, Moving Pictures) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Opinions, please.
I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.
quote who=Bill Bennett I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? I use vim. It has lots of stuff that vi purists chastise me for, which is fine by me. :-) - Jeff -- Toothpaste is the most important meal of the day. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
