Re: [SLUG] Re: DNS - Xen - Virtual server hosting

2006-02-16 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 04:51:52PM +0100, Ben Buxton wrote:
> Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered the following thing:
> > I know about BIND views, in fact I use them, but I don't think they will 
> > work here.
> > 
> > What I need is for lannet.com.au, thisdomain.tld and thatdomain.tld to 
> > all resolve to the same public w.x.y.z externally, but be DNAT'd to 
> > different private 192.168.y.z addresses internally.
> 
> You want to use something called 'pound'. I use it to do exactly what
> you ask.
> 
> http://www.apsis.ch/pound/
> 
> One binary, one configuration file. Piece of cake.

Looks great, but it's equivalent to my suggestion to
use Apache with name virtual hosts and mod_proxy.

Howard wants something for all (?) protocols, which is
impossible in principle because you don't know which
name they want in general -- all the server gets is
the ip.

Matt

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[SLUG] Re: DNS - Xen - Virtual server hosting

2006-02-16 Thread Ben Buxton
Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered the following thing:
> I know about BIND views, in fact I use them, but I don't think they will 
> work here.
> 
> What I need is for lannet.com.au, thisdomain.tld and thatdomain.tld to 
> all resolve to the same public w.x.y.z externally, but be DNAT'd to 
> different private 192.168.y.z addresses internally.

You want to use something called 'pound'. I use it to do exactly what
you ask.

http://www.apsis.ch/pound/

One binary, one configuration file. Piece of cake.

BB

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[SLUG] Re: DNS - Xen - Virtual server hosting

2006-02-14 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 10:21:58AM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> 
> 
> Ben Donohue wrote:
> >A little off the original question here but on the subject of virtual 
> >hosting did you know that VMware are giving away GSX server now for free?
> >It used to be over AUD$2000 but they are feeling the heat from Xen and 
> >MS virtual software as well as others in the market.
> 
> They shouldn't be feeling the heat from Xen yet because Xen will not run 
> Windows until the new Intel chips ship.

You've got your tenses wrong.  The first VT-enabled chips shipped about a
month ago, and it's now available in a number of laptop, desktop, and
rack-mount server units.  AMD's Pacifica, on the other hand, doesn't look to
be out and about for a few months yet.

> I have a problem with VMware after 2.6.13 kernel - it won't compile on 
> 2.6.24 and later, which is why I am looking at Xen.

Not surprising it doesn't compile -- guessing kernel ABIs 9 versions in
advance would be a neat trick.  

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[SLUG] Re: DNS - Xen - Virtual server hosting

2006-02-14 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 09:12:14PM +1100, Ben Donohue wrote:
> A little off the original question here but on the subject of virtual 
> hosting did you know that VMware are giving away GSX server now for free?
> It used to be over AUD$2000 but they are feeling the heat from Xen and 
> MS virtual software as well as others in the market.
> So their Linux version you can freely download and it works very well.

Oh my god, Ben's a corporate shill!

http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/evil/did-nvidia-hire-online-actors-to-promote-their-products-152874.php



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[SLUG] Re: DNS - Xen - Virtual server hosting

2006-02-13 Thread Joel Heenan
I think you want a split horizon DNS server that serves different
responses inside and outside.

I'm assuming that both hosts are on the internal network and that you
are running your own DNS inside this network. Are you running SSL
services or is there some reason that the hostnames have to match what
the server thinks its called? How were you planning on routing to the
correct machine from the outside anyway if they have the one IP address,
using virtualhosts?

Joel

>
> It's possible that I might be overlooking something very basic here,
> so bear with me pse.
>
> I've been playing with Xen and  can see it's potential for hosting
> virtual servers, each having a defined internal IP address and a
> defined internal MAC address bridged to the host.
>
> What my problem is: how do I set up DNS so that externally
> thisdomain.tld and thatdomain.tld both point to the same external IP
> address, but internally they point to different internal IP addresses.
>
> There might be some way of doing a selective DNAT in iptables using
> the MAC addresses, but that is escaping me at the moment.
>
> It would be simpler to use a block of external IP addresses, but that
> is not an option just at the moment.
>
> Clue sticks welcomed...


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