Re: [SLUG] Re: How do I mount an audio Cd ?
On Sun Mar 13, 2005 at 16:09:23 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 04:01:49PM +1100, Rod Butcher wrote: What I'm getting at is, it's what it means to the user that matters, not what's going on behind the scenes. MS grasped this brilliantly. You're not listening to what the people are telling you. There *is* magic in the relevant GUI applications to do what you want to do -- get a list of tracks on a CD as wav files. This is precisely what Windows gives you, as well. You appear to be annoyed because people are telling you that your suggested method isn't optimal. Yet you're saying it's [...] not what's going on behind the scenes that matters. I don't think Rod was annoyed, I think we were just having a discussion. And hell, I agree with him on some points, the user shouldn't have to care about whats going on behind the scenes. And as far as not being able to ls /cdrom and get a list of tracks, I'd suggest you try dir d: sometime and see how far you get. Mmm, I can do an ls /Volumes/Punk\ Bites\ 2 (which happens to be the name of the CD I'm currently listening to) on my other unix (MacOSX) and get a list of tracks. It even has a the correct names the names of the tracks. Neat! I can use the same tools I use to manipulate my other files, cool! This *is* good usability. And Rod is right, right now doing this, I don't care what it going on behind the scenes. Of course as a systems designer and probably a sysadmin I'd care if this functionality is implemented inside the kernel. Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: How do I mount an audio Cd ?
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 04:01:49PM +1100, Rod Butcher wrote: What I'm getting at is, it's what it means to the user that matters, not what's going on behind the scenes. MS grasped this brilliantly. You're not listening to what the people are telling you. There *is* magic in the relevant GUI applications to do what you want to do -- get a list of tracks on a CD as wav files. This is precisely what Windows gives you, as well. You appear to be annoyed because people are telling you that your suggested method isn't optimal. Yet you're saying it's [...] not what's going on behind the scenes that matters. And as far as not being able to ls /cdrom and get a list of tracks, I'd suggest you try dir d: sometime and see how far you get. - Matt -- New Yankee Workshop isn't a how to for home hobbyists, it's Baywatch for powertool fetishists. -- Geoff Kinnel, ASR signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: How do I mount an audio Cd ?
1. In what sense am I not listening to what people are telling me ? Who said anything about using standard guis like nautilus to display audio files ? The discussion to date was about whether the necessary functionality to directly read audio fioles should be in the kernel or user space, if I understand correctly, and various standalone utilities were recommended to access the audio cd contents as files. 2.I was not annoyed about anything until you piped up with your sarcasm. I didn't actually suggest any method.. I was exprssing my opinion that the typical user expected consistency despite the fact that behind the scenes different things may actually be happening. 3·Until now I wasn't aware of a dir command. I tried as you suggested dir d: and it returned dir: d\:: No such file or directory. man says dir lists directory contents. If I can't mount the cd as a directory how does the command list its contents ? So.. if you really want to help be constructive, otherwise keep quiet. I have no time for petty nitpicking. Rod On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 16:09 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 04:01:49PM +1100, Rod Butcher wrote: What I'm getting at is, it's what it means to the user that matters, not what's going on behind the scenes. MS grasped this brilliantly. You're not listening to what the people are telling you. There *is* magic in the relevant GUI applications to do what you want to do -- get a list of tracks on a CD as wav files. This is precisely what Windows gives you, as well. You appear to be annoyed because people are telling you that your suggested method isn't optimal. Yet you're saying it's [...] not what's going on behind the scenes that matters. And as far as not being able to ls /cdrom and get a list of tracks, I'd suggest you try dir d: sometime and see how far you get. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- --- Brought to you by a penguin, a gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
