Re: [SLUG] Re: Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer

2003-07-28 Thread Stuart Guthrie
Thanks to all who replied.

xnview was great but only for viewing (no print option!!!)

This live below worked a treat and the clues were provided by Angus, 
Jeff and Anand:

convert {1}.tif {1}.ps ; gv {1}.ps

I also tried the above with pdf/xpdf but it broke and also took forever.

ps rocks! So does convert! Also gv! I'm getting carried away here again 
aren't I. Ahem.

Now to turn the above into a script and add it as a mime type so that 
evolution will add it to open with...

The mission here is to replace Outlook/windows viewer functionality and 
thus consign it to the dustpit of time.

Stu

Angus Lees wrote:

At Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:20:09 , Voytek Eymont wrote:
 

I'd say, for higher quality, there is no subsitute for TIFF, as far as bit
mapped images go.
   

tiff is a "container" format, so what format you really have inside a
.tiff is really what determines the image's characteristics.
in pretty much all cases you can strip off the tiff header and use the
contents in its "native" format (bmp, jpeg, g3, etc) - there is of
course no different in image quality.
even if you were converting between lossless image formats (pretty
much anything except jpeg), you shouldn't see any difference (they're
lossless after all).
 



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Re: [SLUG] Re: Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer

2003-07-26 Thread Angus Lees
At Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:20:09 , Voytek Eymont wrote:
> I'd say, for higher quality, there is no subsitute for TIFF, as far as bit
> mapped images go.

tiff is a "container" format, so what format you really have inside a
.tiff is really what determines the image's characteristics.

in pretty much all cases you can strip off the tiff header and use the
contents in its "native" format (bmp, jpeg, g3, etc) - there is of
course no different in image quality.

even if you were converting between lossless image formats (pretty
much anything except jpeg), you shouldn't see any difference (they're
lossless after all).

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer

2003-07-26 Thread Jeff Waugh


> yes, THOUGH, last time I tried it, whilst the resulting PDF was smaller,
> the quality was significantly lower in PDF than the TIFF...
> 
> I'd say, for higher quality, there is no subsitute for TIFF, as far as bit
> mapped images go.

If you use lossy compression, you have to expect lossy quality. "So don't do
that." :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer

2003-07-26 Thread Voytek Eymont
** Reply to note from Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:07:23 +1000


> Converting TIFF to PDF is pretty straight forward, compressable, and cross- 
> platform friendly. Most of the PDF viewer user interfaces are far more 
> sensible and familiar than the TIFF ones, too. People understand PDF.

yes, THOUGH, last time I tried it, whilst the resulting PDF was smaller,
the quality was significantly lower in PDF than the TIFF...

I'd say, for higher quality, there is no subsitute for TIFF, as far as bit
mapped images go.

on windoze, the Kodak (nee Wang) Imaging is a pretty good viewer for m-page
TIFFs (TIFF-F)



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Re: [SLUG] Re: Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer

2003-07-26 Thread Jeff Waugh


> jfax is converting them to TIFFs so it is out of my control. I've found a
> reasonable java tiff viewer but its interface is early java and a bit
> clunky. Not sure I'd recommend it to the list.

Converting TIFF to PDF is pretty straight forward, compressable, and cross-
platform friendly. Most of the PDF viewer user interfaces are far more
sensible and familiar than the TIFF ones, too. People understand PDF.

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Re: [SLUG] Re: Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer

2003-07-25 Thread Stuart Guthrie
Anand Kumria wrote:

Presumably something is converting those Faxes into TIFFs?
 

jfax is converting them to TIFFs so it is out of my control. I've found 
a reasonable java tiff viewer but its interface is early java and a bit 
clunky. Not sure I'd recommend it to the list.

While Hylafax seems to encourage people to use TIFFs it can also readily
generate PostScript and PDF files. There are plenty of good viewers of
both in Linux.
Perhaps it'd be better to have the fax conversion program use those
instead of TIFF?
Anand

 



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[SLUG] Re: Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer

2003-07-24 Thread Anand Kumria
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:32:20 +1000, Stuart Guthrie wrote:

> Hi there
> 
> Just wondering who might recommend a good multi-page tiff viewer. Has
> anyone tried to get this going on a Linux desktop (one of my clients is
> now rolled over to Linux Desktops with Win4Lin).
> 
> Multi-page tiffs seem to be a common standard for faxes. It's currently
> a trouble getting them viewable quickly and smickly on Linux.

Presumably something is converting those Faxes into TIFFs?

While Hylafax seems to encourage people to use TIFFs it can also readily
generate PostScript and PDF files. There are plenty of good viewers of
both in Linux.

Perhaps it'd be better to have the fax conversion program use those
instead of TIFF?

Anand

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