Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Ken Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 13:21 +1000, James Polley wrote: The WRT54G does support WPA. The WRT54GL (http://www.ht.com.au/N/0/keyword/wrt54gl/part/T6018/detail.hts) I can recommend these for wireless signal strength. It gets across the street fine, the Dlink would not get to the other end of the house. Using custom firmware, like DD-WRT, you can tweak your transmission and receive settings for optimal communication. By default, the WRT54GL transmits at 28mw, and this can usually be safely increased to about 70. For longer-distance communication, you might want to consider using a better set of antennae. -- Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everybody gets busy on the proof. - John Kenneth Galbraith pgps3Lf9YCAPr.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
On 28/09/2007, Jesus Jr M Salvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks ... so the consenses seems to be the WRT54GL. Looked around Harris, OfficeWorks, and a local computer shop ... no one has a WRT54GL, but they do have stocks of WRT54G. Did not buy one yet because I did not remember what hardware version of WRT54G had Linux vs. VxWorks. ( finally found out it was anything v5.x, preferrably v4 ) Have to go back again to see again what versions they have. John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
might need to order in the WRT54GL Ken Jesus Jr M Salvo wrote: On 28/09/2007, Jesus Jr M Salvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks ... so the consenses seems to be the WRT54GL. Looked around Harris, OfficeWorks, and a local computer shop ... no one has a WRT54GL, but they do have stocks of WRT54G. Did not buy one yet because I did not remember what hardware version of WRT54G had Linux vs. VxWorks. ( finally found out it was anything v5.x, preferrably v4 ) Have to go back again to see again what versions they have. John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Jesus Jr M Salvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looked around Harris, OfficeWorks, and a local computer shop ... no one has a WRT54GL, but they do have stocks of WRT54G. Did not buy one yet because I did not remember what hardware version of WRT54G had Linux vs. VxWorks. ( finally found out it was anything v5.x, preferrably v4 ) They are still available: http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?sourceid=Mozilla-searchq=wrt54gl -- Leading active members of today's economics profession, the generation presently in their 40s and 50s, have joined together into a kind of politburo for correct economic thinking. As a general rule - as one might expect from a gentleman's club - this has placed them on the wrong side of every important policy issue, and not just recently but for decades. - Economist James K. Galbraith, 2000-02-14 pgpjSzvnduVvP.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
On 29/09/2007, Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Jesus Jr M Salvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looked around Harris, OfficeWorks, and a local computer shop ... no one has a WRT54GL, but they do have stocks of WRT54G. Did not buy one yet because I did not remember what hardware version of WRT54G had Linux vs. VxWorks. ( finally found out it was anything v5.x, preferrably v4 ) They are still available: http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?sourceid=Mozilla-searchq=wrt54gl Thanks ... I'm trying to find a store in Sydney that I can walk into and see the actual package, so I can verify that I am ordering a WRT54GL v1.1 instead of a WRT54GL v1.2. Otherwise, I'd go to Harris Tech at Parramatta and buy the WRT54G v4. John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Jesus Jr M Salvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks ... I'm trying to find a store in Sydney that I can walk into and see the actual package, so I can verify that I am ordering a WRT54GL v1.1 instead of a WRT54GL v1.2. Otherwise, I'd go to Harris Tech at Parramatta and buy the WRT54G v4. Try Umart: http://umart.net/au/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=products_id=105071osCsid=b241d075247ac2c6632e175be3dd3ff3 Their main shop is in Enfield: http://umart.net/au/contact_us.php?osCsid=b241d075247ac2c6632e175be3dd3ff3 -- I just favour the whole concept of open source as being a way that companies can be not entrapped by proprietary software. And one thing we do find is that anytime you're using something that's proprietary, you do wind up being pretty trapped, as much as they can trap you. - Steve Wozniak, 2005-12-01 pgpr4UgQhuTb7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
quote who=Jesus Jr M Salvo Thanks ... I'm trying to find a store in Sydney that I can walk into and see the actual package, so I can verify that I am ordering a WRT54GL v1.1 instead of a WRT54GL v1.2. Otherwise, I'd go to Harris Tech at Parramatta and buy the WRT54G v4. All the shops in Capitol Square (on George Street, across from China Town) are pretty good. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2008: Melbourne, Australiahttp://lca2008.linux.org.au/ GIMP is the primary tool in my graphics work. It is my gcc and Emacs. - Tuomas Kuosmanen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
another good source is here http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware I have a asus Wl500Gp does all thats needed and comes with more flash. There is some problems with running 2.6, openwrt version 7.07 - 7.09 (just released), although 7.06 is stables. Also the broadcom drivers do not work properly in 2.6 so you will need a atheros card. Unless you use a 2.4 kernel Alex On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 01:32:41PM +1000, James Polley wrote: Yes - as of hardware version 5 of the WRT54G, they switched to VXWorks as an OS instead of linux. This enabled them to halve the amount of memory needed, and thus make the unit cheaper. However, they were sensible enough to know that most of the reason why the original WRT54G was popular was the linux support, so at the same time the rebadged the version 4 WRT54G as the WRT54GL and continued selling that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G#WRT54GL has some of the detail. On 27/09/2007, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What James said, with the addendum that my venerable old WRT54G also runs OpenWRT quite nicely. But it's gone through a few hardware revisions since I bought mine, and from memory the newer ones might have issues. It's probably worth checking the website before putting money in to it. -- Pete On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 13:21 +1000, James Polley wrote: The WRT54G does support WPA. The WRT54GL (http://www.ht.com.au/N/0/keyword/wrt54gl/part/T6018/detail.hts) will do everything you want, and also runs linux. If you feel like getting your (virtual) hands dirty, there's a slew of distros for it - http://openwrt.org, http://www.dd-wrt.com/, http://www.thibor.co.uk/, etc. These can give you fantastic features, like being able to set up a WDS, configuring multiple SSIDs, assigning all switch ports on different vlans, etc. Also, because it's running nice stock linux things, you can do stuff you'd do on any other linux firewall, like ssh in and twiddle iptables rules. Of course, you've only got 16Mb ram to play with, and the CPU is only 200Mhz... On 27/09/2007, Jesus Jr M Salvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have Optus cable at home, and have been simply plugging my laptop ( a Compaq Presario V6107AU ) running Fedora7 to the cable modem ( Motorola, forgot the exact model ) to get Internet access. Can anyone recommend a wireless router that I can use instead so that : 1) The wireless router connects to the cable modem. 2) The wireless router serves DHCP to wireless laptops. 3) Supports VPN passthrough 4) WEP / WPA-PSK / AES encyption 5) Allows a USB 2.0 printer to be connected so that it is shared among laptops ( optional ) ... and of course ... works with linux ? I have been looking at these: LinkSys WRT54GX: http://www.ht.com.au/N/-20+-43+-535/part/R8671/detail.hts LinkSys WRT54G: http://www.ht.com.au/N/-20+-43+-535/part/H9739/detail.hts The second one is cheaper, although it does not have WPA or AES. What do people here with Optus cable use ... and what's your feedback ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 13:21 +1000, James Polley wrote: The WRT54G does support WPA. The WRT54GL (http://www.ht.com.au/N/0/keyword/wrt54gl/part/T6018/detail.hts) I can recommend these for wireless signal strength. It gets across the street fine, the Dlink would not get to the other end of the house. -- Ken Foskey FOSS developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
On 27/09/2007, James Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The WRT54G does support WPA. The WRT54GL (http://www.ht.com.au/N/0/keyword/wrt54gl/part/T6018/detail.hts) will do everything you want, and also runs linux. If you feel like getting your (virtual) hands dirty, there's a slew of distros for it - http://openwrt.org, http://www.dd-wrt.com/, http://www.thibor.co.uk/, etc. These can give you fantastic features, like being able to set up a WDS, configuring multiple SSIDs, assigning all switch ports on different vlans, etc. Also, because it's running nice stock linux things, you can do stuff you'd do on any other linux firewall, like ssh in and twiddle iptables rules. Of course, you've only got 16Mb ram to play with, and the CPU is only 200Mhz... Hi, Thanks ... so the consenses seems to be the WRT54GL. I did not realise you can ssh to it can update the iptables internally. I presume you run the risk of not being able to use the wireless router if you mess things up ?? The only thing that I have to figure out is if it will work with my Broadcom wireless adaptor that is built-in my notebook. Here is the lspci output: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4310 UART (rev 01) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device 1361 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 19 Region 0: Memory at b320 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=2 PME- Capabilities: [58] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable- Address: Data: Capabilities: [d0] Express Legacy Endpoint IRQ 0 Device: Supported: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, ExtTag+ Device: Latency L0s 4us, L1 unlimited Device: AtnBtn- AtnInd- PwrInd- Device: Errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported- Device: RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop- Device: MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes Link: Supported Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s, Port 0 Link: Latency L0s 4us, L1 64us Link: ASPM Disabled RCB 64 bytes CommClk- ExtSynch- Link: Speed 2.5Gb/s, Width x1 Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting Capabilities: [13c] Virtual Channel According to the above, it is a broadcom 4310, but according to b43 kernel modue, it is a broadcom 4311: b43-phy0: Broadcom 4311 WLAN found The docs for this notebook is not clear either, as it does not specify the exact model of broadcom wireless adapter. Funny that a lot of ppl ( including myself ) have had trouble using a broadcom on a notebook but the wireless routers such as LinkSys all seems to work. John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Sorry to drop another name in late, but the AP that Freenet Antennas [sic - not antennae!] http://store.freenet-antennas.com/ sell is a linux box and comes in different tx power up to 200 mW, if this is an advantage to you (typically tx power of APs is 60-80 mW). This is legal so long as you match to an antenna that's not too high gain - the rubber duck is way short of being illegal. They are in WA not Sydney but I think couriers do the run east. I don't know anything about ssh'ing to them but you could contact the vendor. Kevin Shackleton. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
Hi, I have Optus cable at home, and have been simply plugging my laptop ( a Compaq Presario V6107AU ) running Fedora7 to the cable modem ( Motorola, forgot the exact model ) to get Internet access. Can anyone recommend a wireless router that I can use instead so that : 1) The wireless router connects to the cable modem. 2) The wireless router serves DHCP to wireless laptops. 3) Supports VPN passthrough 4) WEP / WPA-PSK / AES encyption 5) Allows a USB 2.0 printer to be connected so that it is shared among laptops ( optional ) ... and of course ... works with linux ? I have been looking at these: LinkSys WRT54GX: http://www.ht.com.au/N/-20+-43+-535/part/R8671/detail.hts LinkSys WRT54G: http://www.ht.com.au/N/-20+-43+-535/part/H9739/detail.hts The second one is cheaper, although it does not have WPA or AES. What do people here with Optus cable use ... and what's your feedback ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
The WRT54G does support WPA. The WRT54GL (http://www.ht.com.au/N/0/keyword/wrt54gl/part/T6018/detail.hts) will do everything you want, and also runs linux. If you feel like getting your (virtual) hands dirty, there's a slew of distros for it - http://openwrt.org, http://www.dd-wrt.com/, http://www.thibor.co.uk/, etc. These can give you fantastic features, like being able to set up a WDS, configuring multiple SSIDs, assigning all switch ports on different vlans, etc. Also, because it's running nice stock linux things, you can do stuff you'd do on any other linux firewall, like ssh in and twiddle iptables rules. Of course, you've only got 16Mb ram to play with, and the CPU is only 200Mhz... On 27/09/2007, Jesus Jr M Salvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have Optus cable at home, and have been simply plugging my laptop ( a Compaq Presario V6107AU ) running Fedora7 to the cable modem ( Motorola, forgot the exact model ) to get Internet access. Can anyone recommend a wireless router that I can use instead so that : 1) The wireless router connects to the cable modem. 2) The wireless router serves DHCP to wireless laptops. 3) Supports VPN passthrough 4) WEP / WPA-PSK / AES encyption 5) Allows a USB 2.0 printer to be connected so that it is shared among laptops ( optional ) ... and of course ... works with linux ? I have been looking at these: LinkSys WRT54GX: http://www.ht.com.au/N/-20+-43+-535/part/R8671/detail.hts LinkSys WRT54G: http://www.ht.com.au/N/-20+-43+-535/part/H9739/detail.hts The second one is cheaper, although it does not have WPA or AES. What do people here with Optus cable use ... and what's your feedback ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
What James said, with the addendum that my venerable old WRT54G also runs OpenWRT quite nicely. But it's gone through a few hardware revisions since I bought mine, and from memory the newer ones might have issues. It's probably worth checking the website before putting money in to it. -- Pete On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 13:21 +1000, James Polley wrote: The WRT54G does support WPA. The WRT54GL (http://www.ht.com.au/N/0/keyword/wrt54gl/part/T6018/detail.hts) will do everything you want, and also runs linux. If you feel like getting your (virtual) hands dirty, there's a slew of distros for it - http://openwrt.org, http://www.dd-wrt.com/, http://www.thibor.co.uk/, etc. These can give you fantastic features, like being able to set up a WDS, configuring multiple SSIDs, assigning all switch ports on different vlans, etc. Also, because it's running nice stock linux things, you can do stuff you'd do on any other linux firewall, like ssh in and twiddle iptables rules. Of course, you've only got 16Mb ram to play with, and the CPU is only 200Mhz... On 27/09/2007, Jesus Jr M Salvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have Optus cable at home, and have been simply plugging my laptop ( a Compaq Presario V6107AU ) running Fedora7 to the cable modem ( Motorola, forgot the exact model ) to get Internet access. Can anyone recommend a wireless router that I can use instead so that : 1) The wireless router connects to the cable modem. 2) The wireless router serves DHCP to wireless laptops. 3) Supports VPN passthrough 4) WEP / WPA-PSK / AES encyption 5) Allows a USB 2.0 printer to be connected so that it is shared among laptops ( optional ) ... and of course ... works with linux ? I have been looking at these: LinkSys WRT54GX: http://www.ht.com.au/N/-20+-43+-535/part/R8671/detail.hts LinkSys WRT54G: http://www.ht.com.au/N/-20+-43+-535/part/H9739/detail.hts The second one is cheaper, although it does not have WPA or AES. What do people here with Optus cable use ... and what's your feedback ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless router with Optus broadband cable
Yes - as of hardware version 5 of the WRT54G, they switched to VXWorks as an OS instead of linux. This enabled them to halve the amount of memory needed, and thus make the unit cheaper. However, they were sensible enough to know that most of the reason why the original WRT54G was popular was the linux support, so at the same time the rebadged the version 4 WRT54G as the WRT54GL and continued selling that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G#WRT54GL has some of the detail. On 27/09/2007, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What James said, with the addendum that my venerable old WRT54G also runs OpenWRT quite nicely. But it's gone through a few hardware revisions since I bought mine, and from memory the newer ones might have issues. It's probably worth checking the website before putting money in to it. -- Pete On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 13:21 +1000, James Polley wrote: The WRT54G does support WPA. The WRT54GL (http://www.ht.com.au/N/0/keyword/wrt54gl/part/T6018/detail.hts) will do everything you want, and also runs linux. If you feel like getting your (virtual) hands dirty, there's a slew of distros for it - http://openwrt.org, http://www.dd-wrt.com/, http://www.thibor.co.uk/, etc. These can give you fantastic features, like being able to set up a WDS, configuring multiple SSIDs, assigning all switch ports on different vlans, etc. Also, because it's running nice stock linux things, you can do stuff you'd do on any other linux firewall, like ssh in and twiddle iptables rules. Of course, you've only got 16Mb ram to play with, and the CPU is only 200Mhz... On 27/09/2007, Jesus Jr M Salvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have Optus cable at home, and have been simply plugging my laptop ( a Compaq Presario V6107AU ) running Fedora7 to the cable modem ( Motorola, forgot the exact model ) to get Internet access. Can anyone recommend a wireless router that I can use instead so that : 1) The wireless router connects to the cable modem. 2) The wireless router serves DHCP to wireless laptops. 3) Supports VPN passthrough 4) WEP / WPA-PSK / AES encyption 5) Allows a USB 2.0 printer to be connected so that it is shared among laptops ( optional ) ... and of course ... works with linux ? I have been looking at these: LinkSys WRT54GX: http://www.ht.com.au/N/-20+-43+-535/part/R8671/detail.hts LinkSys WRT54G: http://www.ht.com.au/N/-20+-43+-535/part/H9739/detail.hts The second one is cheaper, although it does not have WPA or AES. What do people here with Optus cable use ... and what's your feedback ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
