Re: [SLUG] removing samba
Hi, I know I'm late for the party but I don't see anyone mentioning aptitude's amazing mark for auto remove flag (set by pressing M). By marking packages you know you don't care about with this flag you automatically get them removed when nothing you care about depends on them. Also to get this flag set automatically when you install packages just use aptitude instead of apt-get, e.g. Replace any mention of apt-get install ... with aptitude install Cheers, -Amos On 2/19/10, meryl gnu...@aromagardens.com.au wrote: Thank you Ken, Erik, James Mike for your replies. You are a wealth of information! non-dependent Samba pkgs removed, restarted and I'm very happy! thanks again cheers, Meryl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] removing samba
Hi, I know I'm late for the party but I don't see anyone mentioning aptitude's amazing mark for auto remove flag (set by pressing M). By marking packages you know you don't care about with this flag you automatically get them removed when nothing you care about depends on them. Also to get this flag set automatically when you install packages just use aptitude instead of apt-get, e.g. Replace any mention of apt-get install ... with aptitude install Cheers, -Amos Hi Amos, yes iirc I saw that same orphan management tool in an apt-get vs aptitude article once but I'd since forgotten all about it... thanks for the reminder, much appreciated! cheers, Meryl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] removing samba
I needed to do some file sharing recently and now that the task is finished so I want to remove the Samba service. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10. in Synaptic search: samba shows that the following items are installed; samba samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient libpam-smbpass libsmbclient libwbclient0 nautilus-share python-smbc When I mark samba for removal no other files on this list are marked. So is just marking samba for removal sufficient to stop this service from starting at boot... and I don't want to keep files that only rely on samba alone as they'll be superfluous. But when I select samba-common to be removed, Synaptic notifies me of a list of other files that it will also remove with samba-common - one of them being ubuntu-desktop. I'm not so sure that I want ubuntu-desktop removed! advice/suggestions/help are welcome :) thanks... Meryl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] removing samba
If baffles me as to why it's so difficult to stop a service on boot in ubuntu but read this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1341947 I also don't see why it's been made hard to pull samba out, maybe someone more ubuntu friendly can explain how to remove the program it's self but for now if the service is off it shouldn't bother you. You could also just try removing entries in /etc/samba/smb.conf if u can't stop the service On 19/02/2010, at 8:11, meryl gnu...@aromagardens.com.au wrote: I needed to do some file sharing recently and now that the task is finished so I want to remove the Samba service. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10. in Synaptic search: samba shows that the following items are installed; samba samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient libpam-smbpass libsmbclient libwbclient0 nautilus-share python-smbc When I mark samba for removal no other files on this list are marked. So is just marking samba for removal sufficient to stop this service from starting at boot... and I don't want to keep files that only rely on samba alone as they'll be superfluous. But when I select samba-common to be removed, Synaptic notifies me of a list of other files that it will also remove with samba-common - one of them being ubuntu-desktop. I'm not so sure that I want ubuntu-desktop removed! advice/suggestions/help are welcome :) thanks... Meryl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] removing samba
- Original Message - From: meryl Sent: Friday, 19 February, 2010 8:11:53 AM I needed to do some file sharing recently and now that the task is finished so I want to remove the Samba service. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10. in Synaptic search: samba shows that the following items are installed; samba samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient libpam-smbpass libsmbclient libwbclient0 nautilus-share python-smbc Hi Meryl, If you jump on the command line and type apt-cache show samba then scroll down you'll see this (this was on a Ubuntu 8.04 system - YMMV): Currently, the Samba Debian packages consist of the following: . samba - LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. samba-common - Samba common files used by both the server and the client. smbclient - LanManager-like simple client for Unix. swat - Samba Web Administration Tool samba-doc - Samba documentation. samba-doc-pdf - Samba documentation in PDF format. smbfs - Mount and umount commands for the smbfs (kernels 2.2.x and above). libpam-smbpass - pluggable authentication module for SMB/CIFS password database libsmbclient - Shared library that allows applications to talk to SMB/CIFS servers libsmbclient-dev - libsmbclient shared libraries winbind - Service to resolve user and group information from Windows NT servers . It is possible to install a subset of these packages depending on your particular needs. For example, to access other SMB/CIFS servers you should only need the smbclient and samba-common packages. So with the exception of the nautilus/python bindings Synaptic seems to correspond to the list. Notice that last line? ;) Read on... When I mark samba for removal no other files on this list are marked. So is just marking samba for removal sufficient to stop this service from starting at boot... and I don't want to keep files that only rely on samba alone as they'll be superfluous. Keep in mind there are 2 halves to the Samaba packages: server components and client components (see the description next to samba-common?) with some common bits they both share. You probably only want to get rid of the server components. But when I select samba-common to be removed, Synaptic notifies me of a list of other files that it will also remove with samba-common - one of them being ubuntu-desktop. I'm not so sure that I want ubuntu-desktop removed! Don't sweat the ubuntu-desktop package. It's not a real package, it's a meta-package which depends on all the components for an interactive desktop etc. If you go to the command line (again...sorry) and type apt-cache show ubunut-desktop you'll notice in the Depends section it relies on smbclient. So if you remove the smbclient package the package manager must remove the ubuntu-desktop meta-package to maintain dependancies. HOWEVER, removing a meta-package DOES NOT remove the packages it depends on :) So it's safe. Getting back to your original query, you should be able to remove: samba swat samba-doc samba-doc-pdf libpam-smbpass winbind Just leave the smbclient package and ubuntu-desktop should be fine. Worst case scenario, hose ALL the samba stuff (which will take out ubuntu-desktop as colateral) then simply re-install ubuntu-desktop. This will ensure you only get the bits of samba required to satisfy ubuntu-desktop when you re-install it. Not perfect, but it is simple. Have fun! -- James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] removing samba
meryl wrote: I needed to do some file sharing recently and now that the task is finished so I want to remove the Samba service. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10. in Synaptic search: samba shows that the following items are installed; samba samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient libpam-smbpass libsmbclient libwbclient0 nautilus-share python-smbc When I mark samba for removal no other files on this list are marked. Samba is the samba server. Thats the one you want to remove. Samba-common and samba-common-bin contain files and programs used by both the samba server and samba client programs. You probably don't want to remove these. But when I select samba-common to be removed, Synaptic notifies me of a list of other files that it will also remove with samba-common - one of them being ubuntu-desktop. I'm not so sure that I want ubuntu-desktop removed! Ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, a package that contains no files itself, but depends on a bunch of other things that would be useful to have if you are running an ubuntu desktop machine. However, unless you really know what you are doing, you should probably keep ubuntu-desktop installed. Erik (who always uses the command line dpkg and apt-* tools) -- -- Erik de Castro Lopo http://www.mega-nerd.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] removing samba
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 08:11 +1100, meryl wrote: I needed to do some file sharing recently and now that the task is finished so I want to remove the Samba service. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10. ... When I mark samba for removal no other files on this list are marked. So is just marking samba for removal sufficient to stop this service from starting at boot... and I don't want to keep files that only rely on samba alone as they'll be superfluous. At the command line: sudo apt-get autoremove The clean up 'mostly' just works but sometimes dependent libraries will be left lying around. Also in synaptic, check for a section 'Not Installed (residual config). If you want you can flag these for complete removal, cleaning up more package information. But when I select samba-common to be removed, Synaptic notifies me of a list of other files that it will also remove with samba-common - one of them being ubuntu-desktop. ubuntu provides a method for connecting to Windows shares as a client, this is part of desktop. I would not recommend removing it because upgrades become harder. Ta Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] removing samba
Thank you Ken, Erik, James Mike for your replies. You are a wealth of information! non-dependent Samba pkgs removed, restarted and I'm very happy! thanks again cheers, Meryl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] removing samba
On Friday 19 February 2010 06:42:22 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: From: meryl Sent: Friday, 19 February, 2010 8:11:53 AM I needed to do some file sharing recently and now that the task is finished so I want to remove the Samba service. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10. in Synaptic search: samba shows that the following items are installed; samba samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient libpam-smbpass libsmbclient libwbclient0 nautilus-share python-smbc Meryl to quote ShazBaz you are talking a fart in a fan factory. I've spent *weeks* trying to reduce the distro size for an embedded video recording system. You are up for a Gig or two no matter what hoops you jump through. Me, after ages in which I gor some 500M as the base distro just gave up and took an extra 2G of flash from video storage for the distro. I built, from scratch, a 40M distro, if you are cynical about it it was worth 10 or 20 K$, Cheaper to buy bigger flash :-) James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
