Re: [SLUG] Lappies with preinstalled Linux (was Partitioning software)
quote(Jeff Waugh); The only thing I like with Linspire is that it comes with legal codecs like the ability to play DVDs legally. Unlike the other distros. Ah, but you can't share it with your friends. Unlike the other distros. :-) o/~ but they can not help their neighbours... o/~ -chris. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lappies with preinstalled Linux (was Partitioning software)
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 03:55:45PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: oh well just thought i would reply on my ibook running only debian linux connected via aiport card. *shrug* You, like myself, probably hit the sweet spot with Apple laptops where we have the Ornico wireless (just Airport, rather than Extreme), a Radeon chip with decent support and working suspend to RAM. These days it's all Broadcom wireless, NVidia chips (no drivers for PowerPC) and only software suspend to disk, which seems to cause as many problems as it solves. That and if BenH ever got hit by a bus (touch wood) I really wonder who else would step in to keep Linux support even where it's at. As Erik has noticed strange things can start to happen and you haven't really any clues on how to start fixing it. I certainly couldn't recommend the current crop of Apple laptops to anyone wanting to run Linux on them. -i signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lappies with preinstalled Linux (was Partitioning software)
Dean Hamstead wrote: oh well just thought i would reply on my ibook running only debian linux I used to recommend the ibook as a linux machine myself. connected via aiport card. Yep, mine is an older machine with airport instead of airport extreme (broadcom chip). Standard airport works fine. Like Ian points out, the ibooks used to be a good option. They very definitely are not so now. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo +---+ The main confusion about C++ is that its practitioners think it is simultaneously a high and low level language when in reality it is good at neither. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lappies with preinstalled Linux (was Partitioning software)
quote who=Kevin Saenz The only thing I like with Linspire is that it comes with legal codecs like the ability to play DVDs legally. Unlike the other distros. Ah, but you can't share it with your friends. Unlike the other distros. :-) - Jeff -- UbuntuBelowZero http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero What do you get when you cross a web server and a hen? Apoache. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lappies with preinstalled Linux (was Partitioning software)
Kevin Saenz wrote: The only thing I like with Linspire is that it comes with legal codecs like the ability to play DVDs legally. Unlike the other distros. I don't really care so much about that, what I like is that this makes it possible to buy a laptop without paying he microsoft tax and knowing that linux has a damn good chance of running all the hardware. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo +---+ C++ : An octopus made by nailing extra legs onto a dog. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lappies with preinstalled Linux (was Partitioning software)
just buy an ibook. http://www.yellowdoglinux.com Dean Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Kevin Saenz wrote: The only thing I like with Linspire is that it comes with legal codecs like the ability to play DVDs legally. Unlike the other distros. I don't really care so much about that, what I like is that this makes it possible to buy a laptop without paying he microsoft tax and knowing that linux has a damn good chance of running all the hardware. Erik -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lappies with preinstalled Linux (was Partitioning software)
Dean Hamstead wrote: just buy an ibook. Sorry, IMO that is not good advice. I have had an iBook for three years and until recently it worked very well. However, about 6 weeks ago I installed patches under OSX and since then the machine has refused to wake up after sleep under Linux. I have tried about a dozen different kernel versions, about 5 different versions of pbbuttondsd and associated tools, booted into t openfirmware and did a firmware reset and the machine still doesn't work the way it should. Under OSX things are still OK, but I find OSX a PITA. I also have had fiends buy current model powerbooks intending to run Linux on them and then have to wait 6 months for the Linux drivers to be stable enough to run Linux on it. Finally, I think all current Apple laptops have wireless using the broadcom chip for which no driver exists under Linux. I won't be buying an iBook or a powerbook any time in the near future. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo +---+ I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you. -- Vance Petree -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lappies with preinstalled Linux (was Partitioning software)
oh well just thought i would reply on my ibook running only debian linux connected via aiport card. *shrug* Dean Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Dean Hamstead wrote: just buy an ibook. Sorry, IMO that is not good advice. I have had an iBook for three years and until recently it worked very well. However, about 6 weeks ago I installed patches under OSX and since then the machine has refused to wake up after sleep under Linux. I have tried about a dozen different kernel versions, about 5 different versions of pbbuttondsd and associated tools, booted into t openfirmware and did a firmware reset and the machine still doesn't work the way it should. Under OSX things are still OK, but I find OSX a PITA. I also have had fiends buy current model powerbooks intending to run Linux on them and then have to wait 6 months for the Linux drivers to be stable enough to run Linux on it. Finally, I think all current Apple laptops have wireless using the broadcom chip for which no driver exists under Linux. I won't be buying an iBook or a powerbook any time in the near future. Erik -- WWW: http://dean.bong.com.au LAN: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
