Re: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Nick Hayer

Hi Markus -

Markus Gufler wrote:


There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image)
this morning passing our filters.


I am catching these fairly easily -
a combo filter -
#combo-stockspammer-png.txt
SKIPIFWEIGHT26
TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
#
The body regex is this:
src=cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@

-Nick

 




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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Nick,

What is your false positive rate with that pattern?

_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:05:18 AM, you wrote:

 Hi Markus -

 Markus Gufler wrote:

There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image)
this morning passing our filters.

 I am catching these fairly easily -
 a combo filter -
 #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
 SKIPIFWEIGHT26
 TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
 BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
 #
 The body regex is this:
 src=cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@

 -Nick

  



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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Jonathan,

I urge caution from experience... png images are not entirely rare,
and the cid: tag format in the regex is also common.

I'd love to be wrong - but I recall false positives with similar
attempts in the past.

Is there more to this than the two elements I just described -
something I'm not seeing?

_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:19:36 AM, you wrote:

 Nick, very good method.  I have added that to my configuration as well now.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Nick Hayer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam


 Hi Markus -

 Markus Gufler wrote:

 There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png
 image)
 this morning passing our filters.
 
 I am catching these fairly easily -
 a combo filter -
 #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
 SKIPIFWEIGHT26
 TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
 BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
 #
 The body regex is this:
 src=cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@

 -Nick

 
 


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Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Nick Hayer




Pete McNeil wrote:

  Hello Nick,

What is your false positive rate with that pattern?
  

Hmm lets go to the MDLP for yesterday :)

   SS HH HS SH SA   
  SQ
REGEX.STOCK.BODY 331 0 0 66 0.667506  0.445565
COMBO.STOCK_PNG 16 0 0 1 0.882353 0.778547

The regex alone will fp; I score it with a 3 [hold on 10; delete on 24]
The png combo I just did it last night when I first saw the spam. So
far I have not see any fp. [ I combo it (the regex) with other tests as
well - which makes it much more reliable.]

-Nick



  
_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:05:18 AM, you wrote:

  
  
Hi Markus -

  
  
  
  
Markus Gufler wrote:

  
  
  
  

  There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image)
this morning passing our filters.

  

I am catching these fairly easily -
a combo filter -
#combo-stockspammer-png.txt
SKIPIFWEIGHT26
TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
#
The body regex is this:
src=""moz-txt-link-freetext" href="">cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@

  
  
  
  
-Nick

  
  
  
  

   

  

  
  

  
  
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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Nick,

Thanks.

That's all good then :-)

_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:46:55 AM, you wrote:


  Pete McNeil wrote: 
   
 Hello Nick,

 What is your false positive rate with that pattern? 
  
  Hmm lets go to the MDLP for yesterday  :)
  
                                             SS   HH  HS  SH   SA            SQ
  REGEX.STOCK.BODY    331    0    0    66    0.667506   0.445565
  COMBO.STOCK_PNG   16   0   0 1  0.882353  0.778547
  
  The regex alone will fp; I score it with a 3 [hold on 10; delete on 24]
  The png combo I just did it last night when I first saw the spam.
 So far I have not see any fp. [ I combo it (the regex) with other
 tests as well - which makes it much more reliable.]
  
  -Nick
  
  
  
   
 _M

 Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:05:18 AM, you wrote: 
   
   
 Hi Markus - 
   
   
  
   
   
 Markus Gufler wrote: 
   
   
  
   
   
   
 There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image)
 this morning passing our filters. 
   
   
 I am catching these fairly easily -
 a combo filter -
 #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
 SKIPIFWEIGHT26
 TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
 BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
 #
 The body regex is this:
 src=cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@ 
   
   
  
   
   
 -Nick 
   
   
  
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  
   
   
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Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Jonathan Hickman
Because a small amount of weight is added, it is still sufficient for
tilting the scales on more occurrences than other image types.

- Original Message - 
From: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock
spam


 Hello Jonathan,

 I urge caution from experience... png images are not entirely rare,
 and the cid: tag format in the regex is also common.

 I'd love to be wrong - but I recall false positives with similar
 attempts in the past.

 Is there more to this than the two elements I just described -
 something I'm not seeing?

 _M

 Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:19:36 AM, you wrote:

  Nick, very good method.  I have added that to my configuration as well
now.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Nick Hayer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam


  Hi Markus -
 
  Markus Gufler wrote:
 
  There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png
  image)
  this morning passing our filters.
  
  I am catching these fairly easily -
  a combo filter -
  #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
  SKIPIFWEIGHT26
  TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
  BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
  #
  The body regex is this:
  src=cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@
 
  -Nick
 
  
  
 
 
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