RE: [sniffer] Integrating Sniffer with new Imail Collaboration Suite
Take a look at Mdaemon from altn.com instead of Imail? Great product, great support, great attitude. Oh and works very well with le sniffer :) Matt D MaxNett Ltd t.08701 624 898 f.08701 624 889 www.maxnett.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Matuska Sent: 27 October 2004 16:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [sniffer] Integrating Sniffer with new Imail Collaboration Suite Importance: High Is there a way to integrate message sniffer directly with the new Imail Collaboration Suite. We are currently using it with Imail via declude, but that may change soon due to this latest Imail fiasco. If we decide to migrate to the new Collaboration suite I need to know if we can use message sniffer directly or if we would need to use a 3rd party add in still such as declude (if a version is released that will work with the collaboration suite). Any thoughts? Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech II CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html Scanned for Spam and Viruses by GetNoSpam.net http://www.getnospam.net This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
Re: [sniffer] Integrating Sniffer with new Imail Collaboration Suite
Matt Day wrote: Take a look at Mdaemon from altn.com instead of Imail? Great product, great support, great attitude. Oh and works very well with le sniffer :) I agree. But to answer the original question, I had the notion that ICS is the same IMail with other bundled software/services and just a change in name. So perhaps the infrastructure is the same, and everything should work the same... -- Jorge Asch Revilla CONEXION DCR www.conexion.co.cr 800-CONEXION This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
Re: [sniffer] Integrating Sniffer with new Imail Collaboration Suite
On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 11:30:27 AM, Jim wrote: JM Is there a way to integrate message sniffer directly with the new Imail JM Collaboration Suite. We are currently using it with Imail via declude, but JM that may change soon due to this latest Imail fiasco. If we decide to JM migrate to the new Collaboration suite I need to know if we can use message JM sniffer directly or if we would need to use a 3rd party add in still such as JM declude (if a version is released that will work with the collaboration JM suite). Any thoughts? Sniffer won't be making a direct connection to IMail because it won't be necessary. It is my understanding the Declude and mxGuard will continue to function with ICS just as they have. There is no good reason for us to duplicate that effort when such a fine job has already been done. _M This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] Integrating Sniffer with new Imail Collaboration Suite
Well, to play devil's advocate ... A poor man's way to run IMail and Message Sniffer without Declude could certainly be done without a massive re-write. I'm not going to claim that it would be *reliable* or *flexible* but you could certainly mimic what Declude does and change one registry key to have IMail call a batch file. Then have your batch file call Message Sniffer, run through multiple if errorlevel statements, and take whatever action you deem appropriate, like moving the two message files to a quarantine or just deleting them. If a message passes, you call IMail's original executable (from the original registry entry) to deliver the message. Sure, saying it is easier than doing it, but it is do-able. As for me, I prefer to use Declude Sniffer. A weighted system rocks. Andrew 8) p.s. Now, if SpamAssassin has a way to shell out to call Sniffer ... hm ... -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:52 AM To: Jim Matuska Subject: Re: [sniffer] Integrating Sniffer with new Imail Collaboration Suite On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 11:30:27 AM, Jim wrote: JM Is there a way to integrate message sniffer directly with the new JM Imail Collaboration Suite. We are currently using it with Imail via JM declude, but that may change soon due to this latest Imail fiasco. JM If we decide to migrate to the new Collaboration suite I need to JM know if we can use message sniffer directly or if we would need to JM use a 3rd party add in still such as declude (if a version is JM released that will work with the collaboration suite). Any JM thoughts? Sniffer won't be making a direct connection to IMail because it won't be necessary. It is my understanding the Declude and mxGuard will continue to function with ICS just as they have. There is no good reason for us to duplicate that effort when such a fine job has already been done. _M This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
Re: [sniffer] Integrating Sniffer with new Imail Collaboration Suite
Andrew, You would also need to lock the file so that the queue didn't steal it. You might be able to just simply rename the Q* file to get the same effect. Pete's being a good friend of Declude by not suggesting a modification, but also a good friend of the user to recommend a much better solution that also brings with it the benefit of weighting, RBL's and other scoreable hits. If you already own Declude and are sticking with IMail, there is absolutely no reason to abandon it. IMO, Ipswitch is about to change their tune on the matter of bundling after signs that they recognize the miscalculation in the response. A miscalculation of this magnitude however points to a more systematic problem, and their claim that service agreements are money losers for them is preposterous, and then to place the burden on the customer when your product is already premium priced is an indication of an organization in total disarray. Matt Colbeck, Andrew wrote: Well, to play devil's advocate ... A poor man's way to run IMail and Message Sniffer without Declude could certainly be done without a massive re-write. I'm not going to claim that it would be *reliable* or *flexible* but you could certainly mimic what Declude does and change one registry key to have IMail call a batch file. Then have your batch file call Message Sniffer, run through multiple if errorlevel statements, and take whatever action you deem appropriate, like moving the two message files to a quarantine or just deleting them. If a message passes, you call IMail's original executable (from the original registry entry) to deliver the message. Sure, saying it is easier than doing it, but it is do-able. As for me, I prefer to use Declude Sniffer. A weighted system rocks. Andrew 8) p.s. Now, if SpamAssassin has a way to shell out to call Sniffer ... hm ... -Original Message- From: Pete McNeil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:52 AM To: Jim Matuska Subject: Re: [sniffer] Integrating Sniffer with new Imail Collaboration Suite On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 11:30:27 AM, Jim wrote: JM Is there a way to integrate message sniffer directly with the new JM Imail Collaboration Suite. We are currently using it with Imail via JM declude, but that may change soon due to this latest Imail fiasco. JM If we decide to migrate to the new Collaboration suite I need to JM know if we can use message sniffer directly or if we would need to JM use a 3rd party add in still such as declude (if a version is JM released that will work with the collaboration suite). Any JM thoughts? Sniffer won't be making a direct connection to IMail because it won't be necessary. It is my understanding the Declude and mxGuard will continue to function with ICS just as they have. There is no good reason for us to duplicate that effort when such a fine job has already been done. _M This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ = This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
