[RCSE] Radio choices- JR XP-642 or X-347
Currently I have a sanwa 7 chanel RC that only has basic flap mixing. I feel its time to get a new radio with all the mixing hoopla that is needed for modern gliders. I have an opertunity to buy a secondhand JR x-347 or should I buy a new JR x-642? Can someone tell me how the two radios compare features wise? I really would appreciate peoples opinions. Obviously the x-347 will be cheaper but then again it is getting on in years and perhaps is no longer up to date? Or...should I "saves me money" and buy a JR X-388? My other half is going to kill me if she finds out! Thanks Michael RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Dynamic Soaring at Sky Harbour in Fresno
Hello People, Well, it's official, Sky Harbour goes Dynamic. I flew my new Mickey Crowley Hollow Molded Velocity yesterday at Sky Harbour and really had it moving. It was making that wicked sound that says "Hey, I'm hauling some serious butt." I didn't try any lead because the wind was only blowing about 8 knots. I had concerns that the lift on the front side wouldn't support ballast. The ride was very rough back there. The turbulence would occasionally flip the airplane inverted in the blink of an eye. It was quite scary The question I have is; Can I expect ballast to smooth the airplane's ride thru the turbulance? I know that higher wing loadings provide a smoother ride in full scale airplanes and am wondering if carrying lead in my DS ship will help to make the airplane more controllable in turbulence. What do you DS guru's think? What dynamics are involved in adding lead during ballast? Timothy E. Cone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.NightOps.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Re: This might be insane, but....
I think this is great, actually. It opens up a whole line of thought on aircraft interface design. Bravo. I might have to try it. Ambitexterous Lift, Scobie in Seattle. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] 5 minute epoxy
Cliff Lindgren writes: I'm curious to know if there is any difference in the quality (strength) of 5 minute epoxies..Please give me reasons for your choice in this matter. Cliff, I buy the stuff from an epoxy supplier (mostly to the boatbuilding trade) here in Seattle called SYSTEM THREE EPOXY. They make all the standard cure speeds. I like supporting a local company, but mostly I buy it because of the packaging. 5min epoxy, to me, is all about convenience. System Three sells their 5min in a pair of 6oz squeezable bottles (bigger too, if you're really gonna go through the stuff) with nice spouts that don't leak, and caps that are color coded to their bottles and super easy to get on and off. I can have a batch of 5min mixed up faster, cleaner, and neater with these bottles than any others I've tried. And I trust the brand, having had much good epoxy experience at several of their different cure speeds, though mostly not on model airplane projects. One project I did is almost 10years old, full outdoor exposure, and holding up really well. I don't know exactly how they stack up price wise, but I gotta assume they're competitive or better with anything else worth buying. Don't know how good their mail order service or shipping rates are, as I just pick up the stuff I need at their shipping office which doubles as a direct retail outlet. Can get you a number for System Three if you're interested. BTW they also make a two part expanding foam product that is pretty impressive. Makes polyurethane foam at 2lbs/sq foot, when fully expanded. Don't know if it really has any uses in model building, but Yee Hah, does that stuff expand! Lift, Scobie in Seattle. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Pontification on the topic of Soaring
Yea Ron, I agree with you on that, but I have a question for you. How do you get that feeling back after a year of getting beat up at the field, loosing your best planes your confidence in the sport all together? It's me 3rd year, started out as my best, but something happened it turned out to be my worst. It leaves me wondering if I was really meant to be in the sport. Somehow it hasn't been very fun lately. I am scared to put up another plane period, I just can't stand to see another of my planes go in. I have only put my plane up once since the ANTS, that time I felt like I was lucky to get it down in 1 piece. Just a question, If I don't figure it out I'm afraid that I'm all done in this sport, I love the sort very much. Thanks Thermals to you, Steve Abbruzzese Ron wrote: Soapbox please! As I sat in my lawnchair at the sod farm today enjoying a cool cup of water and going over the day's thermals, something occured to me that I want to share. I feel sorry for those work-a-day people who have no outlet like ours. I'm sure those duffers and fishers et al have their moments, but, how can those activities compare to the marrage of eye-hand coordination with the grand dance with mother nature in that sport/hobby we know as TD soaring? I'm sure each and every one of us could add our 2 cents worth, but let's not dilute the moment. I just wanted to share and say thanks. I'll be quiet now :) -- Ron Richardson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Birmingham, AL, USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] AMA Nats/not really a contest
that means if i am an excellent pilot and i do come out on top, i'm still dirt poor (can't afford the air fares) and have a job that doesn't allow time out for championship competition, the competition generated will be those who don't have restraints on their lives. dave -- From: Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring listserver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] AMA Nats/not really a contest Date: Sat, Aug 21, 1999, 1:52 PM Sorry, but I couldn't be quiet on this one. I understood and agree with the author's logic. The point I took home was, since there was no system of qualifications like you might find in a baseball tourney, the nats hardly rate as a overall national championship. This is not to say that it is not a great achievement to do well in a contest with so many entrants. But, it is not as great an achievement as it could be if there were local and regional qualifiers from around the counrty. In 1976, I won the Std class B group at the nats simply because I was the only one to enter. An extreme example I admit, yet it illustrates the point. Again, the point as I understood it, A true national championship contest should be the culmination of a number of local and regional events. The winners of these events would then meet to duke it out for the title of national champ. There should be more required to enter than just time money. Somebody kick this soapbox from under me before I hurt myself :) -- Ron Richardson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Birmingham, AL, USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Pontification on the topic of Soaring
In a message dated 08/21/1999 7:05:14 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It doesn't matter what you do, but that you do something. Ride free, fly quiet, BINGO! I have friends who hunt, fish, build furniture, anything that trips your trigger. I happen to like R/C. Mostly soaring, but some power too. I also ride motorcycles, and drive Semi's. that is my profession, but also fun. I also like Bible Study. You have to find what works for YOU! More trouble has been caused by people deciding what other people need to do to keep them "healthy/moral/good" whatever that means. Old story! In Jerusulem about 2000 years ago. A man approaches a Rabbi and says, "If you can tell me the whole of Jewish philosophy in the time I can stand on one leg, I will become a jew." The Rabbi nodded and motioned for the man to procede. He picked up a foot and balanced. The Rabbi cleared his throat and said, "Treat everyone the way you would like to be treated. the rest is just commentary." Maybe if EVERYONE did this, we would have a LOT LESS TROUBLE! mark RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] micro HLGers
I've been flying the Dragonette from Daves Aircraft works . . . .it flies great! Any of you guys care to share what micros you fly and where (slope, etc). I haven't managed to thermal the dragonette yet but its great on the slope!!! Can any body recommend a more high performance micro (rudder elevator only--no mixing)--perhaps one with greater light lift potential---these things are s much fun. I am flying a Noseeum now and like it pretty well--much better after I got a tape induced warp out of a wing but I am a bit heavy at 3.8 oz using a pair of Li-Ion Duracell DLCR2's for power. I think it would have to be 2.8 oz for 1.5 oz /sq ft wing loading which is what the outdoor free flight hand launch folks work towards I am told. This is with 32" wing span--just over Mosquito legal. My guess at dead air time would be 15 seconds on a good toss. What are you getting with the Dragonette? No big thermals for me yet either but I am an new flyer, but I bet the noseeum would be really fun on a slope. I think it flys better than my Zagi THL. I must say that tossing around such a small plane makes me feel like a kid. Its almost like throwing paper airplanes. Mosquito Hawk is almost done, PITCHERONS for controls!!. That ought to add something to my urban flying experience... If you don't mind 'two-sticking it', you can avoid mixing by using ch 2 and 3, elev/throttle to control the elvons on a flying wing--might be counter intuitive on a v-tail. On order: Red Herring and a Nymph. Nymph looks to be high performance but prissy and fragile, Red Herring is open question for me. In any case, in about a month I will have 4 mosquito or near mosquito class HLGs to compare. Gone and got myself all excited, gonna go flying now. breck --Jonathan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "u nsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] long: Quest delam/crash, lithium stuff
Rich; There are the Tadiran rechargable lithium cells too. They are AA size with a capacity of 750 mAH and weigh .6 oz each. Two of them makes a 6v pack that weighs 1.2 oz. They have a max rated discharge rate of 2A - plenty for a three channel 2 meter plane or a full house HLG. As I understand, the slow fly guys are using these to regularly get 30 minute to 1 hour flights. Wes-Technic has some custom made Tadiran cells 2/3 AA size. These are 430 mAH capacity and weigh .4 oz each. These would be excellent for HLG - I intend to get some one of these days soon - like when I get around to working on my DJ Aerotech Wizard Lite. Should be an excellent match for that plane. I am curious about the solid polymer Lithiums. As I understand, they have good capacity and are very light. Good sky; J.P. Rich Hollyday wrote: [snip] Lil Bird is 1/2way done, and it IS easy to build, and super light, super strong. Shears all the way to the tips, and D tube too. It will build a bit faster now with the Quest dead. Ordered HS50's from local hobby shop today. Had my local battery plus store weld me a pair of 2/3A (K123LA) lithiums to make a 1.3 ounce 6v pack good for 1300mAh. Scobie turned me on to this, thanks. I will write my experience with it. I have found a battery holder that allows quick replacement of the "223" type double lithium cells, 6v battery pack. These are rated 1300mAh, and available for 11 bucks everywhere. This holder lets you click the battery cartridge in place, and replace the dead battery easily when (if?) that happens. No need to solder cells or clip off the connectors everytime. Look for this on my website in a month or two. I don't know about weight, material, etc yet. My wife has a Canon 35mm camera that uses this battery. She has replaced it 4 times in 10 years. One lasted a whole 3 month photo trip to Europe. A brand named "GP" makes these lithium packs considerably cheaper than the energizer, duracell and sanyo versions, like $7. Anyone had experience with his brand? You usually get what you pay for, except that the battery bunny gets 40 million a year, and GP has no bunny, in fact I've never heard of them, maybe they need a bunny. I'm still looking for lighter alternatives (smaller capacity) on the lithiums, but no high power cells are any smaller than the CR2, two of which make a 750mAh pack, 6v, still 0.9 oz. The smaller N sized cells that Scobie was thinking about in an ancient post of his are low power, max discharge is only 80 ma. But they are the perfect size, same as 50 mAh nicad cell. One possibility is the new solid polymer lithiums out now. They are 1mm thick, flat squares and can bend to fit in anywhere, can discharge up to 5C, charge at 1C (1 hour). They are rechargeable, but need a custom charger to do it. I'll chase it and see where it leads. Mark Mech brought these to our attention a while back. Enough, Rich Hollyday -- \|_/ Ya shoulda seen the one that got away - --O-- It was THIS big :-)) J.P. Morere The AeroNuts Haven - http://members.home.net/aeronut/index.htm RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] HLG Question
I have been in a discussion of AR's of HLG's. In general, what is the wing chord at the root, the general tip width, and general area of the high performance stuff?? TIA Chris http://www.scrollsander.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 5 minute epoxy
Hi Most 5 min epoxies don't have as much strength as 30 60 min epoxies. But most of the epoxies from the Hobby Shops are for general purpose applications. I like to use Hysol Adhesives they have epoxies for specific use. But their are other ones that are good too. R. S. Hughes http://www.rshughes.com/ Has stores all over the USA and carry several brands. Howard Rudy Salt Lake City, Ut. Dexter Corp., Hysol and Frekote Products http://www.dextor.com/ Dexter Adhesive Systems http://www.dexteraero.com 2850 Willow Pass Road, P.O. Box 312 Bay Point, CA 94565-0031 Tel: 1-925-458-8000, Fax: 1-925-458-8030 Loctite http://www.loctite.com/ 1-800-562-8483 1001 Trout Brook Crossing Rocky Hill, CT 06067-3910 Phone: 1-860-571-5100 Fax: 1-860-571-5465 Devconhttp://www.devcon.com/ ITW Devcon (U.S.A.) phone: 1-800-933-8266 fax: 1-800-765-4329 System Tree http://www.systemthree.com/ 1-800-333-5514 PO Box 70436 Seattle, Wa. 98107 West System http://www.westsystem.com/ Gougeon Brothers, Inc. 100 Patterson Ave. P.O. Box 908 Bay City, MI 48707-0908 Orders: 1-517-684-6881 fax 1-517-684-1374 Tech: 1-517-684-7286 fax 1-517-684-1287 Here is a list of some of Hysol's products Fast Cure Epoxies 608: Fast cure, low viscosity, clear epoxy. 609: Fast cure, low viscosity, ultra-clear epoxy. 615: Fast cure, gap filling blue paste epoxy. High Performance Epoxies 9460: General Purpose, high performance, non-sag gray paste. 9460F: Faster cure version of 9460. 9430: High strength, ultra high peal, light paste epoxy. 9433: High strength and peel, self-leveling paste epoxy. General Purpose Epoxies 1C: General purpose, gap filling non-sag white paste. 1C-LV: A lower viscosity version of 1C, tan color. 6C: General purpose, non-sag gray paste. 0151: General purpose, clean epoxy. 9462: Lower viscosity 9460. Beige color. 143: Impact resistant, non-sag cream epoxy paste. High Temperature Epoxies 9437: High temperature and chemical resistance. Gray paste. 9432NA: One part, high temperature resistant, non-sag epoxy paste. Potting Epoxies 9411 Black: Low viscosity black potting epoxy. 9412: Low viscosity, high peel epoxy. Pink color. 9412 Black: Black version of 9412. Polyurethanes 610: High peel polyurethane adhesive with superior low temperature performance. Methacrylates H300: High strength, non-sag methacrylate. Brown color. H320: Ultra high strength, non-sag methacrylate. Amber color. H440: High performance, self-leveling methacrylate. Cyanoacrylates Superdrop I (1EC-5/IEC-90/IEC-1500/IEC-2500): rapid curing cyanoacrylate adhesives. Available in 5, 90, 1500 or 2500 centipoise formulations. Superdrop II (2C-5C/2C-100/2C-500): cyanoacrylate adhesives insensitive to difficult substrates. Available in 5, 100 or 500 centipoise formulations. Superdrop III (3C1-100/3C1-1000): cyanoacrylate adhesives that offer high impact resistance. Available in either 100 or 1000 centipoise formulations. Superdrop III (3ST-5/3ST-100): cyanoacrylate adhesives that offer high temperature resistance. Available in either 5 or 1000 centipoise formulations. EVA ADHESIVES Hysol 1X: Hysol 1X is a medium fast setting EVA based adhesive recommended for porous substrates, such as, paper, wood, fabric, non-wovens, and foam. Hysol 232: Hysol 232 is a medium setting EVA based adhesive exhibiting high viscosity and film elongation and is recommended where clear, tough, flexible hot melt is needed. Hysol 740: Hysol 740 is a fast setting EVA based adhesive recommended for packaging applications. Hysol 1942: Hysol 1942 is a medium setting EVA adhesive used extensively in general purpose applications. It exhibits excellent adhesion to wood and many plastics, such as nylon, polycarbonate, PVC, polystyrene, ABS, and acrylic. POLYAMIDE ADHESIVES Hysol 7802: 7802 is a tough, flexible, high performance polyamide hot melt with excellent adhesion to many difficult to bond substrates. It shows excellent performance over a broad temperature range. Hysol 7804: 7804 is a tough, elastomeric, high performance polyamide hot melt with excellent impact resistance at low temperatures. It is recommended for demanding applications where substrates may be exposed to temperature extremes. 7804 bonds to many difficult substrates including: metals, plastics, wood, leather, fabric, non-woven fabric, films, and foils. Hysol 7804FRM-HV: 7804FRM-HV is a tough, elastomeric, high performance polyamide hot melt with excellent impact resistance at low temperatures that has been modified with fire retardant materials. It is recommended for demanding applications were substrates may be exposed to temperature extremes. 7804FRM-HV
[RCSE] buzzard slope soaring and other things
Hello Everybody, today I went to lake hodges to fly my new patton 60"focke wolf ta152 slope racer. what a sweet plane you need to get one if you don't have one. To get on with the story as I am making the hike up the hill I see these buzzards slope soaring really low one made a turn at my eye level and 15 feet in front of me. so when I got to the bench at the top of the hill I just sat there and let them have there fun.and watched and took photos of these great birds slope soaring they would make low passes and high passes and some really tight turns for about 5 minutes . then a thermal came thur the lake and in 2 passes they had speced out. So it was my turn to fly they did come back and made 2 high passes and took off if they would have stayed longer I would have landed to watch the king of the sky again slope again. later, Terry Trimble [EMAIL PROTECTED] SOARING TOOLS FOAMIE INFO SITE http://www.geocities.com/~soaringtools/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dynamic Soaring at Sky Harbour in Fresno
yes very much so Timothy E. Cone wrote: Hello People, Well, it's official, Sky Harbour goes Dynamic. I flew my new Mickey Crowley Hollow Molded Velocity yesterday at Sky Harbour and really had it moving. It was making that wicked sound that says "Hey, I'm hauling some serious butt." I didn't try any lead because the wind was only blowing about 8 knots. I had concerns that the lift on the front side wouldn't support ballast. The ride was very rough back there. The turbulence would occasionally flip the airplane inverted in the blink of an eye. It was quite scary The question I have is; Can I expect ballast to smooth the airplane's ride thru the turbulance? I know that higher wing loadings provide a smoother ride in full scale airplanes and am wondering if carrying lead in my DS ship will help to make the airplane more controllable in turbulence. What do you DS guru's think? What dynamics are involved in adding lead during ballast? Timothy E. Cone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.NightOps.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] AMA Nats/not really a contest -- BS!
In a message dated 8/21/99 1:54:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I understood and agree with the author's logic. The point I took home was, since there was no system of qualifications...the nats hardly rate as a overall national championship. Ron: I have to disagree. First of all, the only National Soaring Championship that AMA awards is to the one pilot who has the best combined scores from the Two-Meter and Open Class competition at the NATS. To win the National Championship (the plaque reads "1999 National Category Champion" and then "RC Soaring") involves four days of flying (two for each event) and usually 15-20 rounds of man-on-man competition against 100 +/- pilots from across the country and virtually every state. The winners of the individual competitions are awarded plaques that reads "Fist Place - Open (Junior or Senior) Class" and then the event title such as "F3J," "Thermal Soaring Two-Meter" or "Thermal Soaring Unlimited." I fly in a number of the major "contests" around the country so I think I know what I am talking about when I say that there is no other contest that even comes close to being the Championship quality of the NATS, and I am from California where we have a fair share of the soaring talent and contests in the U.S. Your source, Matthew Orme, says that winning at either Visalia or Pasadena's two day contest has more prestige. While Visalia is a great event (300 pilots), no one who knows anything about it considers it a championship caliber event. The list of entries reads like the Who's Who of soaring and, as such, being on the "first page" (top 40) is the dream of most who attend. But as a contest it does not come close to that of the NATS. Visalia is 7 rounds with tasks of 3, 5, 7, 8, 5, and 8 minutes respectively. Flight order is determined by your pilot number and you fly when you are called up. There is no man-on-man, so if you are called up during a down cycle...tough. And then there is the downwind launch , downwind landing over the berm that is unique to Visalia in October. If ever there was a Fun-Fly with scoring, Visalia is it. And by the way, I go to Visalia every year and love it...for what it is. Compare that to a total of 15 to 20 rounds of man-on-man found at the NATS with the shortest task being 6 minutes and most tasks being 10 to 12 minutes. No comparison. So why are there 300 pilots that go to Visalia and only 100+/- that compete at the NATS in Two-meter and Unlimited)? Easy. Visalia is in California and it's on a weekend! If the NATS were held in California you would have 100 pilots from California alone. Let's face it, you could have all the qualifiers you wanted and it wouldn't make a hill of beans difference. There are only so many people (10 or less this year) who will take the time, trouble and expense to leave California (not to mention, Texas, Washington, the East Coast, etc.) and travel to Muncie in late July to compete in a week long contest. I don't care if it was the World Championships. Joe Wurts and Daryl Perkins, both multiple National and World Soaring Champions, as well as any other National Champion, will tell you there is plenty of quality competition at the NATS to spur anyone who is interested enough to compete for the National Championship to attend. Is all the talent there? Hell, no! Most of it is not. But I don't think that a series of qualifiers will do a bit of good and, in my opinion, will in fact be harmful. The National Championship should remain an open event. By doing so, the creme de la creme of soaring talent, who care to compete for the Championship, will fight it out and the best man for those four days will, and should be, the National Champion. For the rest of us, it gives us the opportunity to compete in the finest contest, with the most complete agenda of soaring tasks, available anywhere. Just my opinion. Ron Scharck La Jolla, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dynamic Soaring at Sky Harbour in Fresno
In a message dated 08/22/1999 10:06:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To see Micas speed demon the (Velocity) or if you want to show something of your own you have to sell contact me and I will post it for free with the information you want posted. I will continue this as long as I can keep up with demand and I accept no liability for planes which may be misrepresented by the seller. I already have something similar to this on my web site at http://soaring.freeservers.com. Look under "New Products". Anyone wanting to sell their used bird or announce their new product is free to send me any picture and/or info for posting on the site. Free of charge, of course. Thermals, Eric Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Pivo Giveaway, at USA F3B practice
Once again Bozo has gotten himself in hot water with the exchange, but I can help! There WILL BE a giveaway at the last F3B practice being held this saturday at Taft, and while there are no Diamonds available to be handed out, there will be at least one- perhaps more- PIVO for each helper. These are beautifully crafted in the Czech republic, and imported in thier own carrying case! This is not a joke, I'll be bringing them myself! John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Pivo Giveaway, at USA F3B practice (Slovenian Volcab)
I think John is asking us to brush up on our Slovenian. Most everyone at F3B practice knows at least one foreign language(German). The team members are very nice guys. However you will need to know some of the most common words and expressions that may help you to establish communication. ZIVJO (hi, hello)--very basic DOBRO JUTRO (good morning)--being polite when you arrive. PROSIM (please)--when they ask you to shag lines. ZABAVA (party)--just like at SULA. with beer kegs and Dancers VLAK (train)--what I will have to use to get there! LETALO (plane)--they fly these SLAB (bad)--to describe the air at Sula last practice DOBER (good)--if there air is "good" then... LJUBIM TE (I love you)--don't say this at practice... KAJ DELAS NOCOJ(what are you doing tonight)-- self explanitory ZEJEN (thirsty)--this is what those kegs are for MRZLO PIVO (large cold beer)--in the kegs VINO (wine)--uh, no... KAVA (coffee)--you will need this to wake up SMETANA (cream)--John doesn't like this in his coffee SLADKOR (sugar)--if you need some energy quick. well, that all I know. Does anyone know the Slovenian phases for: Steve Air ? Turn, Daryl ? CUT ? too low ? for dwayne Sam Girardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
