Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, and Houdini

2008-05-01 Thread Hobby Club
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, and Houdini









  Friends in Soaring,
  As you know I flew Airtronics systems for years and years. I 
  remember when I got my first Stylus in the early90's,it was and 
  is, aclassic Radio. However radio design did not stop in 1991.I 
  was involved in discussions for at least 3 new radio designs for Sanwa, that 
  werealways canceled. It took 4 years to get the 94761 Servo in to our 
  hands, this drove Ron nuts because he knew We all had JR servos in our 
  Gliders. I can remember many meetings with Sanwa Engineers where they 
  patiently listened to what We wanted, and nodded in agreement. Then 6 
  months down the road, it was like We had never had the discussion. We were 
  crying for a new Glider Card, but it wasn't possible. Did you ever stop to 
  wonder Why there is not Stylus replacement from Sanwa? The truth is the Stylus 
  was designed here in America as a project for Airtronics. I think it was by 
  the same Team that did the software for the Vision.Sanwa has never 
  designed a radio with all the features of the Stylus. I am not saying they 
  can't do it, I'm just looking back at my experience with Sanwa,where 
  they chose not to do it.If you guys are waiting for Sanwa to come up 
  with your Stylus replacement, you might get tired of waiting, I knowI 
  did. I jumped to JR and have never been happier. They have a full line 
  ofcutting edge Radiogear, Great Service, Incredible Support for 
  Soaring,and more important, People willing to listen to us. Team Red is 
  growing, while youare waiting, We'll be flying. 
  Larry Jolly Air-Heli JR Team

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Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, and Houdini

2008-04-30 Thread Anker Berg-Sonne

Uncluded is a new word for me. I hope it isn't the opposite of included. :-)

Anker

David Webb wrote:
If you subscribe to the airtronics forum they will tell you that a 10 
channel 2.4 radio with a lot of bells and whistles is due out FEb 2009 
but this is not a replacement for the Stylus either. This 10 channel 
is supposed to have enough features for the masses, glider pilots 
uncluded. No one has definitively stated when the stylus will be 
replaced with a 2.4 model. 
 
Look ont he bright side. As more and more users switch to the JR, 
Futaba and maybe extreme 2.4Ghz solutions, 72 MHZ gets less populated 
and the potential for conflicts may be reduced :)
 
I am personally switching over next flying season myself. I would LOVE 
to stick with my stylus but my local flying flield is too close to 
another club so 2.4 is a must and soon.  
 
David Webb
 
  

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I dropped by the Airtronics booth at Toledo hoping to find out
if the spread spectrum module for the Stylus would be available
for THIS flying season.  My questions were answered with We're
not sure but have you looked at the new RD 8000?  I was reminded
that Houdini claimed that the secret to his success as an
illusionist was distraction.
  Still patiently waiting for my Stylus SS module,
  Jim Deck
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Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, and Houdini

2008-04-30 Thread David Webb
Yes its one of those new technical terms like ping  lag and whackadoo
:) But the context was used inappropriately.

Seriously they way I type out a message and typically fail to hit spellcheck
I would be surprised if there are not more errors than this. This is also
slightly ironic because although Sanwa/ Airtronics has created arguably the
most amazing glider oriented product to date for a TX for the last several
years soaring specialists have been largely uncluded in any new
developments.

That being said the Stylus has stood the test of time in part due to its
feature rich offering that is only just now being matched by JR and Futaba.






On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Anker Berg-Sonne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Uncluded is a new word for me. I hope it isn't the opposite of included.
 :-)

 Anker

 David Webb wrote:

  If you subscribe to the airtronics forum they will tell you that a 10
  channel 2.4 radio with a lot of bells and whistles is due out FEb 2009 but
  this is not a replacement for the Stylus either. This 10 channel is supposed
  to have enough features for the masses, glider pilots uncluded. No one has
  definitively stated when the stylus will be replaced with a 2.4 model.  Look
  ont he bright side. As more and more users switch to the JR, Futaba and
  maybe extreme 2.4Ghz solutions, 72 MHZ gets less populated and the potential
  for conflicts may be reduced :)
   I am personally switching over next flying season myself. I would LOVE
  to stick with my stylus but my local flying flield is too close to another
  club so 2.4 is a must and soon.   David Webb
 
  On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I dropped by the Airtronics booth at Toledo hoping to find out
 if the spread spectrum module for the Stylus would be available
 for THIS flying season.  My questions were answered with We're
 not sure but have you looked at the new RD 8000?  I was reminded
 that Houdini claimed that the secret to his success as an
 illusionist was distraction.
   Still patiently waiting for my Stylus SS module,
   Jim Deck
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Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, and Houdini

2008-04-30 Thread LJolly
 


Friends in Soaring,
 As you know I flew Airtronics systems for years and years. I  remember when 
I got my first Stylus in the early 90's, it was and  is, a classic Radio. 
However radio design did not stop in 1991. I  was involved in discussions for 
at 
least 3 new radio designs for Sanwa, that  were always canceled. It took 4 
years to get the 94761 Servo in to our  hands, this drove Ron nuts because he 
knew 
We all had JR servos in our  Gliders. I can remember many meetings with Sanwa 
Engineers where they  patiently listened to what We wanted, and nodded in 
agreement.  Then 6  months down the road, it was like We had never had the 
discussion. We were  crying for a new Glider Card, but it wasn't possible. Did 
you 
ever stop to  wonder Why there is not Stylus replacement from Sanwa? The truth 
is the Stylus  was designed here in America as a project for Airtronics. I 
think it was by  the same Team that did the software for the Vision. Sanwa has 
never  designed a radio with all the features of the Stylus. I am not saying 
they  can't do it, I'm just looking back at my experience with Sanwa, where  
they 
chose not to do it. If you guys are waiting for Sanwa to come up  with your 
Stylus replacement, you might get tired of waiting, I know I  did. I jumped to 
JR and have never been happier. They have a full line  of cutting edge Radio 
gear, Great Service, Incredible Support for  Soaring, and more important, 
People willing to listen to us. Team Red is  growing, while you are waiting, 
We'll 
be flying. 
Larry Jolly Air-Heli  JR Team









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[RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, and Houdini

2008-04-29 Thread Jim Deck
   I dropped by the Airtronics booth at Toledo hoping to find out if the 
spread spectrum module for the Stylus would be available for THIS flying 
season.  My questions were answered with We're not sure but have you looked 
at the new RD 8000?  I was reminded that Houdini claimed that the secret to 
his success as an illusionist was distraction.

   Still patiently waiting for my Stylus SS module,
   Jim Deck 


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Re: [RCSE] The Stylus, Airtronics, and Houdini

2008-04-29 Thread David Webb
If you subscribe to the airtronics forum they will tell you that a 10
channel 2.4 radio with a lot of bells and whistles is due out FEb 2009 but
this is not a replacement for the Stylus either. This 10 channel is supposed
to have enough features for the masses, glider pilots uncluded. No one has
definitively stated when the stylus will be replaced with a 2.4 model.

Look ont he bright side. As more and more users switch to the JR, Futaba and
maybe extreme 2.4Ghz solutions, 72 MHZ gets less populated and the potential
for conflicts may be reduced :)

I am personally switching over next flying season myself. I would LOVE to
stick with my stylus but my local flying flield is too close to another club
so 2.4 is a must and soon.

David Webb



On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I dropped by the Airtronics booth at Toledo hoping to find out if the
 spread spectrum module for the Stylus would be available for THIS flying
 season.  My questions were answered with We're not sure but have you looked
 at the new RD 8000?  I was reminded that Houdini claimed that the secret to
 his success as an illusionist was distraction.
   Still patiently waiting for my Stylus SS module,
   Jim Deck
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