Re: [SoaS] Fedora-15-Nightly-20110412.22-i686-Live-soas.iso TESTING

2011-04-15 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 04/15/2011 09:29 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

On 15.04.2011, at 13:52, Peter Robinson wrote:


Etoys have some kind of Problem after startup but run.


Yes, known issue. I think I have a workaround that I should be able to
put in place on the weekend. I just wish they'd release a version that
doesn't use the presence service.


I looked into this last week.

It will take me some time to make it work, because there is no documentation at 
all on how to transition from presence service to mission control.

Note I'm not complaining, I just need to reverse-engineer what Sugar is actually doing 
nowadays, just like I had to do when doing the initial Etoys port (which resulted in my 
Low-level Activity API document).

Perhaps someone will help me do that at the Sugar code sprint in Uruguay 3 
weeks from now. But for this SoaS release that might be too late. Deploying the 
presence service package for a while longer is the official workaround. After 
all, that's why Simon and Tomeu spent the time of reimplementing it as a 
compatibility fallback.


I am happy to transfer the knowledge I have been gaining during the 
summit, would be great to advance on that end. I have a few more smaller 
Etoys related issues [1] I would like to pester you about and maybe 
upstream has moved on [2] by then :)


Looking forward to meting you there,
   Simon

[1] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10759
[2] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10743
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[SoaS] Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [comment] xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14

2010-10-28 Thread Simon Schampijer

Hi,

I wonder why this has been moved to stable despite the unreached karma 
points. The broken Browse activity was similar last time. I know about a 
timeout system, but if a package that showed an error is moved to stable 
then the karma points seem unused then to me, me is confused :/


Regards,
   Simon


 Original Message 
Subject: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [comment] 
xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14

Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 06:04:06 +
From: upda...@fedoraproject.org
To: erikos

The following comment has been added to the 
xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14 update:


bodhi - 2010-10-28 06:04:05 (karma: 0)
This update has been pushed to stable

To reply to this comment, please visit the URL at the bottom of this mail


 xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14

  Update ID: FEDORA-2010-14164
Release: Fedora 14
 Status: stable
   Type: bugfix
  Karma: 2
   Bugs: 628440 - X + geode doesn't survive VT switch
  Notes: Update version, fixes VT switching.
  Submitter: dsd
  Submitted: 2010-09-07 00:17:20
   Comments: bodhi - 2010-09-07 00:17:32 (karma 0)
 This update has been submitted for testing by dsd.

 bodhi - 2010-09-07 06:46:15 (karma 0)
 This update has been pushed to testing

 mrunge (proventesters) - 2010-09-17 10:59:43 (karma 0)
 installs fine, no hardware to test, no regression
 noted.

 masami (proventesters) - 2010-09-18 12:56:50 (karma 0)
 not tested.

 bernie - 2010-10-05 13:19:06 (karma 1)
 erikos - 2010-10-05 13:59:57 (karma 1)
 The VT switch does work fine for me with this package.

 greenfeld - 2010-10-19 18:31:50 (karma 1)
 The VT switch, XVideo overlay, and all other basic
 functionality seems to work fine for me with an XO 1.

 erikos - 2010-10-22 09:48:21 (karma 0)
 I think Peter had issues with it on a non-xo. I will
 ping him to comment here his findings.

 pbrobinson (proventesters) - 2010-10-22 10:09:13 (karma -1)
 Crashes on a Fit-PC

 bodhi - 2010-10-28 06:04:05 (karma 0)
 This update has been pushed to stable

  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14


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Re: [SoaS] Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [comment] xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14

2010-10-28 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 10/28/2010 11:04 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de  wrote:

Hi,

I wonder why this has been moved to stable despite the unreached karma
points. The broken Browse activity was similar last time. I know about a
timeout system, but if a package that showed an error is moved to stable
then the karma points seem unused then to me, me is confused :/


Because it reached 3 positive which kicks the auto push due to karma,
and then I added a negative after the fact which puts it back to 2 but
doesn't revoke the push.

Peter


Ahh, ok, this sounds like an undesired behavior to me, hmm. Thanks for 
the explanation.


Simon
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Re: [SoaS] the final sprint to SoaS 4

2010-10-14 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 10/14/2010 10:03 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

Hi All,

We're on the final sprint to SoaS v4

Adam Williamson has created some testing guidelines for Fedora QA for
Sugar desktop testing. You can find details here [1] and feedback
would be greatly appreciated so we can improve this for the Fedora 15
/ SoaS v5 cycle.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Final_TC1_Desktop


From the discussion (that I remember) that Simon, Thomas and I had the

other night these were the issues we had:
- Terminal issues - fixed with vte 0.26.1 release that will be in
stable tomorrow
- Physics issues - New version here please test
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sugar-physics-7-1.fc14
- gnome-keyring issue. Not fixed yet. Helped wanted. I'm going to try
and get time to look at this further today.
- Read issue - Going to look at it today

Looking through the rest of the list here [2] I'm not sure if there's
anything else that's not specific to the XO hardware other than issues
with Paint and Colors which I'm not sure what the status is.

If there's anything else please speak up NOW!.


I would like to add the following two issues:

a) Input fields in sugar-browse are not correct
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=642941

b) latest physics does abort when closing 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=642937


There is as well the issue with tabbing between activities. More info at 
[1].


Regards,
   Simon

[1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-October/027574.html
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] New upstream releases of telepathy-salut and telepathy-gabble

2010-10-13 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 10/13/2010 01:40 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

These are in updates-testing but need some more karma ;-)

Peter


Awesome - Thanks to Brian! (if he can hear us :)

/me did his verification testing as well.

Regards,
   Simon
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[SoaS] Meeting today?

2010-10-11 Thread Simon Schampijer

Hey,

as the Final Change Deadline [1] is approaching quickly we maybe should 
meet today. I think there is a bank holiday in the US, though...


What do others think?

Regards,
   Simon

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/14/Schedule
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Re: [SoaS] Meeting today?

2010-10-11 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 10/11/2010 03:26 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de  wrote:

Hey,

as the Final Change Deadline [1] is approaching quickly we maybe should meet
today. I think there is a bank holiday in the US, though...


Columbus Day!!



What do others think?


I can join if we meet sooner than later...


I can but it will need to be between 18:00 and 20:00 UK BST as I'm
working either side of those and time is very tight today.

Peter


Basically, I wanted to sync up on the blocker items left to do. I am 
around now in IRC for the next hour, otherwise we can do it asynchronously.


Regards,
   Simon
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Read Activity on Fedora 14 / SoaS v4

2010-10-09 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 09/25/2010 04:01 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

Hi All,

With this update below I've now fixed Read on Fedora 14.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-python2-desktop-2.31.1-7.fc14

I've only given it a cursory test so if others could please do so and
add Karma (remember you need to be logged into bodhi for your karma to
actually have a + effect) so we can get this into the nightly builds.

Cheers,


This seem to have been broken again with the latest gnome-python2-* 
packages: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=198219


- sugar-read-79-2
- gnome-python2-desktop and gnome-python2-evince: 2.32.0-1

Logs at: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2427

I verified by a downgrad to 2.31.1-7.

Regards,
   Simon
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[SoaS] Sugar: Browse has no busy indication when loading pages

2010-10-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,

I did file that ticket [1] (previously a request from F11) since I think 
it is worth an inclusion.

I patched the F11 rpm today and the experience is so much better, just 
the expected user feedback.

If anyone has means of nagging the right people ... please do so :)

Regards,
Simon

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=640581
[2] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10383
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[SoaS] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.90 Final Release

2010-10-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar community,

Sucrose 0.90 is the latest version of the Sugar learning platform: Sugar 
promotes collaborative learning through Sugar Activities that encourage 
critical thinking, the heart of a quality education. Designed from the 
ground up especially for children, Sugar offers an alternative to 
traditional “office-desktop” software. Furthermore it provides a 
flexible and powerful platform for activity developers.

Sugar is Free and Open Source Software and consists of Glucose, the base 
system environment; and Fructose, a set of demonstration activities. 
This new release contains many new features, performance and code 
improvements, bug fixes, and translations.

Full release notes can be found at:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Notes

Thanks everyone for your great contributions!

On behalf of the Sugar community,
 Your Release Team

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Re: [SoaS] Update Karma points for Sugar 0.90 --- Current Summary

2010-10-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
There is a new update that does need your karma points:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sugar-calculator-34-1.fc14,sugar-0.90.1-1.fc14?_csrf_token=c54ba3e24726013d673f640c64f01fa249a5dc6f

Btw, you can use as well Easy Karma to report your findings: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Easy_Karma

Regards,
Simon
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[SoaS] dist-f14-updates-candidate --- dist-f14-updates-testing

2010-10-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,

the packages below are in the status: dist-f14-updates-candidate. Do 
they need to get tagged in order to get into dist-f14-updates-testing? 
Who/Where can this be done? Or is it because we are in Freeze or for 
another reason?

Sugar 0.90.1 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=198419

Sugar Calculate 34: 
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=198416

Thanks for bringing light into this,
Simon
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[SoaS] Update Karma points for Sugar 0.90 --- Current Summary

2010-10-01 Thread Simon Schampijer
Disclaimer:  I am asking for help. And I am sharing my experiences:

Hi,

Sugar 0.90 has been packaged thanks to Peter in no time. Currently the 
packages are in updates-testing. They need three Karma points to get 
into the stable branch and hence can be included in the nightly builds.

Only three points, I hear you say? Sounds easy enough. And actually here 
are the good news, it is easy enough!

You can do the following:


=== Install latest Soas and install the 0.90 rpms ===

- grab the latest build from 
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/soas/ and put it 
on a stick

- when you booted successfully open a terminal et root:
su

- then you can install the latest packages with:
yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing [package-name]
example: yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing sugar

- What should update you all the packages is the following command:
yum groupinstall --enablerepo=updates-testing sugar-desktop

- then it is good to enable the sugar logs before restarting sugar, in a 
terminal edit .sugar/debug and un-comment the last line (use your editor 
of choice here)

- you now need to restart sugar and start you testing

- Tip-of-the-day: if you want to see the current version of an installed 
package you can use the following command in the terminal (no need to be 
root)
rpm -q [package-name]
example: rpm -q sugar


=== Give the Karma points ===

After all the hard work of testing you will want to share your results. 
You can update the karma points at: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/login?_csrf_token=22e572c58d9f8900afdd5092448f24e6c27d327c

Yes you need to have an account for that, but it is easy to do. The 
packages below needs updating - and as you see I have done my job as well :)

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sugar-browse-118-1.fc14,sugar-imageviewer-15-1.fc14,sugar-write-71-1.fc14

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/etoys-4.1.2388-1.fc14,sugar-chat-68-1.fc14,sugar-datastore-0.90.0-1.fc14,sugar-base-0.90.1-1.fc14,sugar-toolkit-0.90.0-1.fc14,sugar-artwork-0.90.0-1.fc14,sugar-0.90.0-1.fc14
 


https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sugar-turtleart-98-1.fc14,etoys-4.1.2387-1.fc14

Of course you can as well ask questions here, if you are unsure if 
something is a bug or not or if you just want to congratulate the team 
for their work - please drop us a line.


=== Known Issues ===
Here is a list of current Issues in the F14 Soas builds I have found so far:

- Gnome keyring pops up at first start: 
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2339
--- At least a new behavior, if not fixable it should be documented 
what to do.

- Physics crashes: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2363
--- We had a similar issue in Sugar, the same fix can be applied here.

- Calculate does not start: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2245
--- Version 34 fixes it, has to be packaged

- Terminal: Can not scroll when using less: Warning Terminal is not 
fully functional. On the XO builds I could not edit files with Vi 
neither which works here ok. There was a new version of VTE in 
updates-testing (0.26.0-1) but that one did not fix that issue. 
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2394
--- Maybe someone could test the gnome-terminal if that functions.

- Activity icon not disappearing from the neighborhood view 
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2389
--- Tomeu has a fix in Gabble and is verifying now if that happens 
on Salut as well.

- Sharing button not updated when resuming a previously-shared activity 
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2390
 --- Tomeu is on that one as well.


What started as a five minutes project turned out to take me a few 
minutes more :) - I hope you enjoyed the reading and we will see 
positive Karma points spreading all around.

Cheers,
Simon
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Re: [SoaS] Missing gettext dependency needed for localised activities

2010-09-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/21/2010 07:22 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
 Hi Simon,

 On 20 Sep 2010, at 11:30, Simon Schampijer wrote:

 On 09/18/2010 04:01 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
 On 18 Sep 2010, at 10:52, pbrobin...@gmail.compbrobin...@gmail.com   
 wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Gary C Martin
 garycmar...@googlemail.com   wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 Just wanted to email this ticket out and make sure the gettext package 
 makes it into the Soas and Dextrose distros. Without it none of the 
 activity po files will be built at bundle install time, thus failing to 
 create the locale directory binary .mo files. Without this, activity 
 translations will not work. This appears to be a break going back to at 
 least Soas Mirabelle.

 Yep, it was dropped in Mirabelle because it pulled in horrific
 dependencies and when I asked about it I was told it was historical
 and that all the Activities should be pre-generating the translations
 and that they shouldn't generated on local install.

 Ouch, that is news to me, no wonder activity localization is broken. Can 
 you point me to the thread/ticket/wiki with that discussion? Including the 
 binary .mo locale files in the source and/or .xo bundles is, to the best of 
 my knowledge, not the usual workflow for activity releases.

 When you use the sugar tools it should just work fine:
 ./setup.py dist_source will create a tarball with just the *.po files.

 Oooh, so it does, learn't something new today, thanks :)

Excellent :)

 ./setup.py dist_xo will create the bundle with a locales folder that 
 contains the .mo for the activity.

 Hmmm, now the question is does dist_xo build the locale folder and then make 
 the bundle with it in, or do you have to manually build first before dist_xo?

 I've just looked through a mix of past .xo releases of mine, some have locale 
 directories and some don't (aargh!). I'm pretty sure I alway use ./setup.py 
 dist_xo on an XO-1 running an official OLPC 0.82 or 0.84 to build my official 
 .xo bundle releases.

The code should do the right thing [1]. And from my testing it works 
fine as well. Not sure what might have went wrong on your end :/ Can you 
retry?

Regards,
Simon

[1] 
http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-toolkit/repos/mainline/blobs/sucrose-0.84/src/sugar/activity/bundlebuilder.py#line283
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Fedora and Sugar on a Stick QA Processes Announcement

2010-09-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Peter,

these are just excellent news indeed!

On 09/22/2010 10:50 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
 Hi All,

 As some of you know I was at FUDCon Zurich last weekend. I took the
 opportunity to sit down with Adam Williamson who is in charge of the
 Fedora QA team and process to discuss how we could incorporate Sugar
 and SoaS testing into the QA process.

Congratulations!

 Adam agreed that we would be able to incorporate Sugar into the
 Desktop QA which will expand our testing massively as Fedora has a
 great QA team. It will also have the ability to allow us to block a
 release if there is things broken. That is a double edged sword as if
 its broken we'll also need to pull out all stops to ensure it is fixed
 as well, but overall I believe that is positive!

Of course visibility does demand responsibility as well. But I agree, 
this is positive.

 In the short term this won't affect this release too much but I will
 be spending some time to define the criteria for Alpha, Beta and Final
 releases. It will also mean we have official spins for each of the
 Alpha, Beta as well as the usual Final releases. While we will see the
 start of the benefits for the home run this will really start to kick
 in for the SoaSv5 release process.

I would be interested in these criteria too. I want to draft a new 
schedule for 0.92 in the next days. Knowing when the downstreams are 
expecting delivery will help there.

 Overall I think this is a massively positive opportunity for Sugar as
 it opens it out more to the wider Fedora community and allows us to
 get involved in the Fedora QA more and define what is important for us
 for our releases and allows us to ride on the coattails and gain the
 benefit of the awesome work that Adam and his team are doing upstream.

It will be interesting to see how we can share the QA resources (testing 
plans). I think there are basic tests the upstream and each downstream 
is interested in. I hope the interested people will sit together and 
find good ways of working together on this.

I think we need someone at Sugar Labs that coordinates the QA efforts. 
 From a release management point of view we really lack that. If there 
is someone that wants to spend a few hours per month on working on this 
- now might be a good moment to speak up.

Regards,
Simon



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Re: [SoaS] Missing gettext dependency needed for localised activities

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/18/2010 04:01 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
 On 18 Sep 2010, at 10:52, pbrobin...@gmail.compbrobin...@gmail.com  wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Gary C Martin
 garycmar...@googlemail.com  wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 Just wanted to email this ticket out and make sure the gettext package 
 makes it into the Soas and Dextrose distros. Without it none of the 
 activity po files will be built at bundle install time, thus failing to 
 create the locale directory binary .mo files. Without this, activity 
 translations will not work. This appears to be a break going back to at 
 least Soas Mirabelle.

 Yep, it was dropped in Mirabelle because it pulled in horrific
 dependencies and when I asked about it I was told it was historical
 and that all the Activities should be pre-generating the translations
 and that they shouldn't generated on local install.

 Ouch, that is news to me, no wonder activity localization is broken. Can you 
 point me to the thread/ticket/wiki with that discussion? Including the binary 
 .mo locale files in the source and/or .xo bundles is, to the best of my 
 knowledge, not the usual workflow for activity releases.

When you use the sugar tools it should just work fine:
./setup.py dist_source will create a tarball with just the *.po files.

./setup.py dist_xo will create the bundle with a locales folder that 
contains the .mo for the activity.

Or do I miss something?

Regards,
Simon
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Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/15/2010 01:58 AM, Gary Martin wrote:
 On 14 Sep 2010, at 15:14, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de  wrote:

 Thanks David and Walter for the feedback,

 On 09/14/2010 04:09 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:05 AM, David Farningdfarn...@gmail.com   wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de   
 wrote:
 Hi,

 what is the current status for activity releases in order to include
 them in distributions like Soas*? Do you guys need tarballs or did you
 switch over to construct the rpms from the .xo? For example the latest
 Paint rpm uses the .xo AFAIK (build even the binaries from the
 non-python sources in the bundle).

 And is the email from ASLO enough for packagers to know about new
 releases? Any other notification that packagers need?

 In the .deb side of the universe, we prefer tarballs but we can work
 directly from the git repository.

 We should not go from the git repository. Either use the .xo or a tarball.

 Is it not still the practice to put tarballs on download.sl.o ???

 -walter

 Well, the latest mails I have seen about activity releases (besides
 Chat) does come from ASLO and only state the .xo. If there are tarballs
 at d.sl.o they have not been announced ;D

 I've been uploading me since Bernie kindly un blocked my shell account, 
 though I totally understand why others might not manage this workflow, 
 there's already many hoops to jump though for a casual activity developer to 
 do for a release.

 Are all the ASLO emails not enough? I'm getting three separate emails from 
 the system for every release already!

 Regards,
 --Gary

Hi Gary,

for me having one email from ASLO is fine. But the tarball if it exist 
should be referenced in the mail.

Regards,
Simon

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Re: [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
Thanks David and Walter for the feedback,

On 09/14/2010 04:09 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:05 AM, David Farningdfarn...@gmail.com  wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de  
 wrote:
 Hi,

 what is the current status for activity releases in order to include
 them in distributions like Soas*? Do you guys need tarballs or did you
 switch over to construct the rpms from the .xo? For example the latest
 Paint rpm uses the .xo AFAIK (build even the binaries from the
 non-python sources in the bundle).

 And is the email from ASLO enough for packagers to know about new
 releases? Any other notification that packagers need?

 In the .deb side of the universe, we prefer tarballs but we can work
 directly from the git repository.

We should not go from the git repository. Either use the .xo or a tarball.

 Is it not still the practice to put tarballs on download.sl.o ???

 -walter

Well, the latest mails I have seen about activity releases (besides 
Chat) does come from ASLO and only state the .xo. If there are tarballs 
at d.sl.o they have not been announced ;D

Regards,
Simon
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Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick builds are broken. boots thru firstboot; then starts x ends up with blank screen with X cursor no gdm or sugar login ---been that way over 10 days....

2010-08-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/30/2010 02:43 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, Its a know problem that I'm actually looking at now. There's been
 alot of changes in Fedora 14 over the last couple of weeks with
 various major upstream changes which has caused some major churn. I
 hope to have it fixed in the next couple of days but I can't promise
 anything as work is extremely busy at the moment.

 Peter

Fwiw, the logs do point to an SELinux issue. Peter, is there a bug 
already filed?

In the meantime, to test sugar, you can go back to an old version and 
update just the sugar packages:

yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing sugar sugar-toolkit 
sugar-datastore sugar-presence-service sugar-artwork telepathy-salut 
telpathy-gabble

Regards,
Simon
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Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick builds are broken. boots thru firstboot; then starts x ends up with blank screen with X cursor no gdm or sugar login ---been that way over 10 days....

2010-08-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/30/2010 04:38 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 On 08/30/2010 02:43 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, Its a know problem that I'm actually looking at now. There's been
 alot of changes in Fedora 14 over the last couple of weeks with
 various major upstream changes which has caused some major churn. I
 hope to have it fixed in the next couple of days but I can't promise
 anything as work is extremely busy at the moment.

 Peter

 Fwiw, the logs do point to an SELinux issue. Peter, is there a bug
 already filed?

 In the meantime, to test sugar, you can go back to an old version and
 update just the sugar packages:

Damn, just seen that there are no older builds in the repo...

Simon

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Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick builds are broken. boots thru firstboot; then starts x ends up with blank screen with X cursor no gdm or sugar login ---been that way over 10 days....

2010-08-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/30/2010 04:45 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 On 08/30/2010 04:38 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 On 08/30/2010 02:43 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, Its a know problem that I'm actually looking at now. There's been
 alot of changes in Fedora 14 over the last couple of weeks with
 various major upstream changes which has caused some major churn. I
 hope to have it fixed in the next couple of days but I can't promise
 anything as work is extremely busy at the moment.

 Peter

 Fwiw, the logs do point to an SELinux issue. Peter, is there a bug
 already filed?

 In the meantime, to test sugar, you can go back to an old version and
 update just the sugar packages:

 Damn, just seen that there are no older builds in the repo...

 Simon

Sorry for the noise: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/test/

Simon
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[SoaS] Help testing new sugar packages in F14

2010-08-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,

to get the new Sugar release 0.90 [1] into shape and make it a stable 
release we want people to test the nightly Soas snapshots [2]. In order 
to get the new packaged tarballs into those builds they have to meet 
certain criteria first [3], hence we need people testing them.

You can simply do this by getting the rpms from koji and install them 
into your latest soas snapshot and restart Sugar. What I do in short is:

- open the Browse activity and go to http://koji.fedoraproject.org
- search for the package (sugar, sugar-toolkit...)
- click on the latest F14 version and then right-click on the download 
option of the 'noarch' rpm and choose 'copy link' from the palette (if 
you download directly it is stored in the Journal)
- then open the terminal activity log in as root and you can copy in the 
address here using ctrl+shift+v or the edit tab in the toolbar
- the command for updating the rpm is: 'rpm -U [name of rpm]'

Once you tested the package you can comment on bodhi [4] about your 
findings and give karma points. If you have not done so yet, you should 
create a Fedora account [5], so your comments have a higher value.

Why not start today? Here are some packages that would need your testing 
[6] [7]. Btw, there will be a Fedora testing day [8] this Thursday and 
we want to give a go on Sugar, too. More info to come.

If you have questions please feel free to ask. I am as well on irc 
#sugar most of the day.

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Roadmap#Schedule
[2] http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/soas/
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_acceptance_criteria
[4] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
[5] 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new?_csrf_token=88fb044408f6ad820284d0a7f38dc7731efb1808
[6] 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sugar-artwork-0.89.3-1.fc14,sugar-toolkit-0.89.3-1.fc14?_csrf_token=88fb044408f6ad820284d0a7f38dc7731efb1808
[7] 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sugar-toolkit-0.89.2-1.fc14,sugar-presence-service-0.90.0-1.fc14,sugar-0.89.3-1.fc14,sugar-base-0.90.0-1.fc14?_csrf_token=88fb044408f6ad820284d0a7f38dc7731efb1808
[8] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/108
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Re: [SoaS] Help testing new sugar packages in F14

2010-08-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/18/2010 11:52 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 Hi,

 to get the new Sugar release 0.90 [1] into shape and make it a stable
 release we want people to test the nightly Soas snapshots [2]. In order
 to get the new packaged tarballs into those builds they have to meet
 certain criteria first [3], hence we need people testing them.

 You can simply do this by getting the rpms from koji and install them
 into your latest soas snapshot and restart Sugar. What I do in short is:

 - open the Browse activity and go to http://koji.fedoraproject.org
 - search for the package (sugar, sugar-toolkit...)
 - click on the latest F14 version and then right-click on the download
 option of the 'noarch' rpm and choose 'copy link' from the palette (if
 you download directly it is stored in the Journal)
 - then open the terminal activity log in as root and you can copy in the
 address here using ctrl+shift+v or the edit tab in the toolbar
 - the command for updating the rpm is: 'rpm -U [name of rpm]'

 Once you tested the package you can comment on bodhi [4] about your
 findings and give karma points. If you have not done so yet, you should
 create a Fedora account [5], so your comments have a higher value.

 Why not start today? Here are some packages that would need your testing
 [6] [7]. Btw, there will be a Fedora testing day [8] this Thursday and
 we want to give a go on Sugar, too. More info to come.

 If you have questions please feel free to ask. I am as well on irc
 #sugar most of the day.

 Regards,
  Simon

 [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Roadmap#Schedule
 [2] http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/soas/
 [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_acceptance_criteria
 [4] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
 [5]
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new?_csrf_token=88fb044408f6ad820284d0a7f38dc7731efb1808
 [6]
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sugar-artwork-0.89.3-1.fc14,sugar-toolkit-0.89.3-1.fc14?_csrf_token=88fb044408f6ad820284d0a7f38dc7731efb1808
 [7]
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sugar-toolkit-0.89.2-1.fc14,sugar-presence-service-0.90.0-1.fc14,sugar-0.89.3-1.fc14,sugar-base-0.90.0-1.fc14?_csrf_token=88fb044408f6ad820284d0a7f38dc7731efb1808
 [8] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/108

Actually, you can use as well the updates testing repository to test new 
rpms. Completely forgot about that.

yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update sugar sugar-toolkit...

And Bernie pointed out that fedora-easy-karma [1] can be used for people 
who do not like to use web interfaces.

Gary pointed out that he has issues running the latest snapshot under 
virtualization (Virtual Box) does not work for him (black screen). If 
anybody has an idea...

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Easy_Karma
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