[SoaS] FW: Crazy SoaS Idea
Hi All, Semi-techie teacher here (me) has a crazy idea. Mel asked me to send it along for further discussion on the SoaS list. I was hoping to have this be something I could use at a tech fair for teachers next month, but better later than never if it is possible. Caryl DVD costs more, but would work. Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:45:06 -0400 From: m...@melchua.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@sugarlabs.org; sdaly...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Crazy SoaS Idea Hi, Caryl - would you mind forwarding this convo to the soas list? Thomas Gilliard has been having a few similar ideas and perhaps there's a chance to work together here. The biggest problem I see with this is that the files needed to do it wouldn't fit on a CD - but maybe it could be done on a DVD. If so, that would definitely make a nice project for someone to pick up. --Mel On 03/26/2010 01:29 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Mel, Sebastian and Sean, Here is a crazy mindstorm for you... Is it possible to create a single CD that has the SoaS file download that could be transferred to a computer that could then make the USB version... and at the same time (same CD) have the live CD version that could be bootable on PCs? Could these files be downloaded on a Mac, put into a Burn folder, and burned on a CD that would work on a PC even if it didn't play on a Mac? In other words something like this: Regular Live CD to boot... but with a separate file folder on the CD with the SoaS image that could be accessed to create the SoaS USB stick??? A dual purpose CD? This would make it possible to distribute a CD that folks could try as a live CD and also give them a file they could use to make their own USB stick??? So there would be 2 files... One with the SoaS files for the creation of the USB stick and the other to play as a live CD. Am I crazy or what??? Caryl ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] FW: Crazy SoaS Idea Another way to distribute sugar USB's
Caryl; I am uploading a 2GB USB img file - ETA about 2 hrs http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-i386-20100324-tests.tar.gz if you expand this file you will find soas-i386-20100324-liveusb-creator.img Burn this to a 2Gb or larger USB/SD dd if=soas-i386-20100324-liveusb-creator.img of=/dev/sd(*) *( your device name for USB, sda/sdb/sdc/.) This USB when booted will have liveusb-creator (with extra command --reset-mbr ) as a sugar application ( large O ) on f3 ring. (or command line in sugar terminal) This can be used to make live USB sticks: use 3 USB sticks: 1 soas-i386-20100324-liveusb-creator Boot stick 2 USB or CD/DVD, Containing strawberry , Blueberry or other .iso files 3 Target USB to write to ALSO Note: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLO-xo.tar.gz Contains 111.xo activities; that can be , expanded, and transferred to 1GB or larger USB for sneakernet off web installs of activity.xo by drag and drop in sugar from inserted USB to Journal in sugar frame. Tom Gilliard --Tests on this USB Booted-- =test of soas-i386-20100324.21.iso= Nightly Composes (f13 rawhide) written to 2 GB lexar firefly USB stick (OS=Ubuntu 9.04) In Terminal: su -c ./livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 800 soas-i386-20100324.21.iso /dev/sdg ==Test Activities== Booted USB in EeePC900 +=Started and stopped correctly *** (-) Broken and will not start IRC.5=+ (yum remove XoIRC.activity, then DL IRC.xo from ASLO in Browse) Browse.114+ Etoys.113+ (no color on icon after use) Visual Match.21+ ***Speak.14(-) Pulses, no pop up to stop. Vu.lux.olpc.speak.log blank inlog application Calculate.30+ Turtle Art.83+ Finance+ Typing Turtle.26+ Log.23+ Memorize.33+ implode.9+ Connect.22+ Image Viewer.14+ Chat.66+ Get IA Books.3+ ***write.68(-) top bar turns white and cannot access buttons Clock.5+ Talks Infoslicer.6+ Jukebox.18+ PlayGo.5+ Physics.4+ Terminal.31+ FlipSticks.2+ ***Maze.6 (popup to stop) pippy+ analyze.8+ *** all four of TAM TAM apps failed (popup to stop) ver 51 and 52 record.64+ Video and audio OK (took picture) Read.78+ liveusb-creator.1+ Sugarized In F3 Circle Field as large O icon Notes on how to sugarize applications: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Category:Live_USB#Fedora_Notes_on_How_to_Create_a_Live_USB_from_a_LiveCD ( works fine, made strawberry 2GB USB with it using 3 sticks) 1 Boot stick 2 Contains strawberry.iso 3 Target to write ==copy to img file for archiving and Duplication==: sudo su password dd if=/dev/sdg of=soas-i386-20100324-liveusb-creator.img 3915776+0 records in 3915776+0 records out 2004877312 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 91.129 s, 22.0 MB/s Peter Robinson wrote: Hi Caryl, I think that might be possible, I vaguely seem to remember that it might already be able to do this in Fedora. As Mel has said it wouldn't currently fit on a standard CD as the SoaS image is currently around 500Mb so the combined pair would be over a gig. Can you file a ticket against SoaS so it can be tracked? Regards, Peter On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All, Semi-techie teacher here (me) has a crazy idea. Mel asked me to send it along for further discussion on the SoaS list. I was hoping to have this be something I could use at a tech fair for teachers next month, but better later than never if it is possible. Caryl DVD costs more, but would work. Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:45:06 -0400 From: m...@melchua.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@sugarlabs.org; sdaly...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Crazy SoaS Idea Hi, Caryl - would you mind forwarding this convo to the soas list? Thomas Gilliard has been having a few similar ideas and perhaps there's a chance to work together here. The biggest problem I see with this is that the files needed to do it wouldn't fit on a CD - but maybe it could be done on a DVD. If so, that would definitely make a nice project for someone to pick up. --Mel On 03/26/2010 01:29 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Mel, Sebastian and Sean, Here is a crazy mindstorm for you... Is it possible to create a single CD that has the SoaS file download that could be transferred to a computer that could then make the USB version... and at the same time (same CD) have the live CD version that could be bootable on PCs? Could these files be downloaded on a Mac, put into a Burn folder, and burned on a CD that would work on a PC even if it didn't play on a Mac? In other words something like this: Regular Live CD to boot... but with a separate file folder on the CD with the SoaS image that could be accessed to create the SoaS USB stick??? A dual purpose CD? This would make it possible to distribute a CD that folks could try as a live CD and also give them a file they could use to make their own USB stick??? So there would be 2 files... One with the SoaS files for the creation of the USB stick and the other to play as a live CD. Am I crazy or
Re: [SoaS] FW: Crazy SoaS Idea Possible DVD Kit-
I can try to put together the required files on a DVD and then make a .iso of it to upload to Tgillard. So there would be 2 files... One with the SoaS files for the creation of the USB stick and the other to play as a live CD. Am I crazy or what??? I think you would have to burn the sugar.iso files copied from the DVD or dd write the .img files to get a bootable sugar entity. I do not see how to make this a live DVD at this time SUGGESTIONS? ==Exactly what should be included on this DVD?== Possible choices; *-http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/soas-3-20100319.iso 454m ( sdz Stable f13 spin with minimal number of applications) *-http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-3-20100319-2GBUSB-Corrected.img.bz2 440mb (Bernie's stable USB img file for Blueberry with ext3 file structure) *-http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLO-xo.tar.gz 566m (111application.xo files for drag drop into sugar journal to install them to Sugar) *-http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-i386-20100324-tests.tar.gz 462m (img file of f13 Nightly composes with liveusb-creator) *-http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-blueberry.iso 380m *-http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-1-strawberry.iso 380m *-http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh 21.k ( Plus instructions on how to use script) *-http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-1-boot.iso 8.4m *-http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-boot.iso 14m *-http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/image-writer-mac 6.8k *-http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/image-writer 7.9k This is a first cut of things to include. Please comment on this.. Maybe a copy of Floss Manual? Tom Gilliard satellit Peter Robinson wrote: Hi Caryl, I think that might be possible, I vaguely seem to remember that it might already be able to do this in Fedora. As Mel has said it wouldn't currently fit on a standard CD as the SoaS image is currently around 500Mb so the combined pair would be over a gig. Can you file a ticket against SoaS so it can be tracked? Regards, Peter On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All, Semi-techie teacher here (me) has a crazy idea. Mel asked me to send it along for further discussion on the SoaS list. I was hoping to have this be something I could use at a tech fair for teachers next month, but better later than never if it is possible. Caryl DVD costs more, but would work. Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:45:06 -0400 From: m...@melchua.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@sugarlabs.org; sdaly...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Crazy SoaS Idea Hi, Caryl - would you mind forwarding this convo to the soas list? Thomas Gilliard has been having a few similar ideas and perhaps there's a chance to work together here. The biggest problem I see with this is that the files needed to do it wouldn't fit on a CD - but maybe it could be done on a DVD. If so, that would definitely make a nice project for someone to pick up. --Mel On 03/26/2010 01:29 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Mel, Sebastian and Sean, Here is a crazy mindstorm for you... Is it possible to create a single CD that has the SoaS file download that could be transferred to a computer that could then make the USB version... and at the same time (same CD) have the live CD version that could be bootable on PCs? Could these files be downloaded on a Mac, put into a Burn folder, and burned on a CD that would work on a PC even if it didn't play on a Mac? In other words something like this: Regular Live CD to boot... but with a separate file folder on the CD with the SoaS image that could be accessed to create the SoaS USB stick??? A dual purpose CD? This would make it possible to distribute a CD that folks could try as a live CD and also give them a file they could use to make their own USB stick??? So there would be 2 files... One with the SoaS files for the creation of the USB stick and the other to play as a live CD. Am I crazy or what??? Caryl ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] FW: Crazy SoaS Idea Another way to distribute sugar USB's
Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com writes: Caryl; I am uploading a 2GB USB img file - ETA about 2 hrs http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-i386-20100324-tests.tar.gz if you expand this file you will find soas-i386-20100324-liveusb-creator.img Burn this to a 2Gb or larger USB/SD dd if=soas-i386-20100324-liveusb-creator.img of=/dev/sd(*) *( your device name for USB, sda/sdb/sdc/.) Yeay! Now that's something I can use to install SoaS! I posted a message here a while ago, asking how to install SoaS without Windows. I am glad someone whipped up a way to do this. This USB when booted will have liveusb-creator (with extra command --reset-mbr ) as a sugar application ( large O ) on f3 ring. (or command line in sugar terminal) With the first SoaS stick installed, I should be able to use that to install to second and subsequent sticks. Thanks. Great work! ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
