Re: [Soekris] mSATA SSDs for a net 6501
We're using our 6501 in a 19'' rack with additional fans for 5 years and it still runs fine with the initial batch of dual 64 GB ADATA mSATA. We also use additional heatsinks on all visible chips for better heat transport. Machine also runs in a controlled temperatur and humidity environment. On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Freek Dijkstra wrote: > On 26-11-2016 01:24, Jeff Simmons wrote: > > > I've got a couple of net6501's running OpenBSD 6.0, and I'd like to > > replace the mSATA SSDs with something larger. The SSDs I have were > > purchased directly from Soekris, and looking around the market there's > > a lot of mSATA stuff that I'm not sure would work. Any limits as to > > size, SATA version, etc. that I should watch out for? Any specific > > recommendations? If I could get 60G I'd be a very happy camper. > > I think you should be fine with most disks. I never had any > compatibility or configuration problem, just some hardware bad luck. > > The only real recommendation I have is to buy two SSD of different > brands, and run them in mirror mode (with ZFS or RAID). As Eric > mentioned, be aware that the two Mini-PCI Express sockets are shared > with the mSATA sockets, so if you use two mSATA disks, you can't use the > Mini-PCI Express sockets. > > A quick summary of the problems I had: > - Bought my net6500 in december 2011. > - Original Transcend TS16GMSA300 (in mSATA slot J6) crashed in september > 2013 > - No mirror, had to get data from backup. Took me over a day. > - Replaced with two Intel SSD, SSDMCEAC030B3, mirror mode. > - Intel SSD #2 (in mSATA slot J6) crashed in october 2014 and september > 2015 > - Changed position of the SSDs in the mSATA slots > - Intel SSD #2 (now in mSATA slot J5) crashed in october 2015 > - Got replacement disk from Intel > - Intel SSD #3 (in mSATA slot J5) crashed in november 2015 > - Replaced with Kingston SMS200S330G SSD > - Running fine with an Intel SSD #1 + Kingston ever since. > > As one of my colleagues (and storage expert) mentioned: If you get two > equal disks of the same brand, type and batch, they are more likely to > fail at roughly the same time. Just get yourself two different brands of > disks. Less likely that you have a duplicate failure at the same time. > > Regards, > Freek > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] debian wheezy/jessie install on net5501-70 fails
I have not installed on a net5501 in years, but what you can do is install on an ordinary machine and then copy your installed OS back to the CF-Card. I often do this in a VM with an attached volume of the exact size of the card/disk (in my case a ZFS volume), then optimize everything including serial terminal (also virtualized) and copying it then to the card/disk. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 4:00 PM, deva seetharam wrote: > hello > when i try to install debian wheezy/jessie (using pxeboot), installer > fails while partitioning the disk with the following error message: > > 'The attempt to mount a file system with type ext4 in SCSI1 (0,0,0), > partition #1 (sda) at / failed.' > > some details: > CF card - it is a 8 GB sandisk card > device - net5501-70 > > i am using minicom running on a debian laptop to connect with the > aforementioned device. > i have tried 3 different CF cards and 2 different net5501 boxes. i am > getting the same error. > > any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated. > > best regards > David > > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Dying net6501 servers
Hi Scott, On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Scott Gustafson wrote: > ... > Can anyone on the list share which vendor, model, and OS to which they > have switched? ... > We switched to APU Boards http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm Not exactly the same NIC number (3 instead of 4), but they work very, very well and are much cheaper. We're using two of them as a HA firewall and DHCP/DNS Failover. PCengines announced the APU2 recently, with increased core count and possible ECC memory configuration. ( http://www.pcengines.ch/apu2b2.htm) Best, Andreas ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
Hi, I also found the net6801 very interesting and a good step forward. Recently, I replaced my two 5501 and 6501 with two apu's from pc engines. Not exactly the amount of nics (only 3) and no PCIe expansion, yet it serves my purpose and it is a good deal for a reasonable price. It's not ARM based, but yields good performance for that price. I use it as a virtualized high availability firewall appliance. Best, Andreas ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] VyOS (or Vyatta)
Hi Patrick, If I remember correctly, net5501 is not i586, isn't it? It's 'only' i486. At least it was in 2009 when I installed Debian Lenny on it. Maybe that's the problem. Best, Andreas On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Patrick Schless wrote: > Searching through the mailing list, I see a handful of references to people > getting vyatta (now VyOS) to work on various soekris models. I've been > trying several different ways now, and I haven't had much luck. Anyone know > if the net5501 can run vyos (or something similar)? I haven't been able to > find current docs on how to get this to work, but if anyone can direct me to > some I'd be very grateful. > > Thanks, > Patrick > > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Redundant Power Supply or battery backup for net6501
This mini-box.com is really a nice site - especially the how swap sharing controller which could be used to connect two different usv packed up power supplies to one soekris board. I have still some external power supplies for my old 5501 laying around ... On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Chris Boot wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > I haven't installed it in any of the Soekris cases, sorry - in fact I > haven't used it with Soekris gear at all yet, but there is no reason it > wouldn't work. > > HTH, > Chris > > On 04/08/14 16:06, Andreas Steinel wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > > > The OpenUPS2 looks really nice and has a 2,5'' mount option. Have you > > installed it in a rackmount case? Should fit, shouldn't it? > > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Chris Boot wrote: > >> On 01/08/2014 17:54, Andreas Steinel wrote: > >>> Hi Greg, > >>> Hi List, > >>> > >>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > >>>> I have a net5501, and measured that with a 2.5" disk (not ssd) it > draws > >>>> about 500 mA at 12V. I have it connected to several sealed lead-acid > >>>> batteries in parallel, typically a 12Ah and two 7Ah. These batteries > >>>> are on float charge to keep them at 13.5V when there is AC power from > >>>> the utility. When the utility power fails, the net5501 continues to > >>>> run, and should last for many hours. > >>> > >>> Thank you for sharing your solution. How is the (complete) schematic > >>> for your setup (I saw the fuses and bypass capacitor missing schematic > >>> of phk which uses a similar setup as yours)? Is there also a charge > >>> protecting circuit involved or is the battery charging restricted > >>> (e.g. delta-V)? > >> > >> Personally, I use Mini-Box OpenUPS devices: > >> > >> http://www.mini-box.com/OpenUPS > >> http://www.mini-box.com/OpenUPS2 > >> > >> They have proper charge controllers on board for all kinds of battery > >> chemistries, and work really nicely. > >> > >>> What is the current state of the onboard NiMH loader? > >> > >> Vaporware, fairy dust, rocking horse sh*t, unobtainium, etc... > >> > >> As far as this list is aware, nobody has ever seen it in working order. > >> > >> HTH, > >> Chris > >> > >> -- > >> Chris Boot > >> bo...@bootc.net > > -- > Chris Boot > bo...@bootc.net > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Redundant Power Supply or battery backup for net6501
Hi Chris, The OpenUPS2 looks really nice and has a 2,5'' mount option. Have you installed it in a rackmount case? Should fit, shouldn't it? On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Chris Boot wrote: > On 01/08/2014 17:54, Andreas Steinel wrote: >> Hi Greg, >> Hi List, >> >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: >>> I have a net5501, and measured that with a 2.5" disk (not ssd) it draws >>> about 500 mA at 12V. I have it connected to several sealed lead-acid >>> batteries in parallel, typically a 12Ah and two 7Ah. These batteries >>> are on float charge to keep them at 13.5V when there is AC power from >>> the utility. When the utility power fails, the net5501 continues to >>> run, and should last for many hours. >> >> Thank you for sharing your solution. How is the (complete) schematic >> for your setup (I saw the fuses and bypass capacitor missing schematic >> of phk which uses a similar setup as yours)? Is there also a charge >> protecting circuit involved or is the battery charging restricted >> (e.g. delta-V)? > > Personally, I use Mini-Box OpenUPS devices: > > http://www.mini-box.com/OpenUPS > http://www.mini-box.com/OpenUPS2 > > They have proper charge controllers on board for all kinds of battery > chemistries, and work really nicely. > >> What is the current state of the onboard NiMH loader? > > Vaporware, fairy dust, rocking horse sh*t, unobtainium, etc... > > As far as this list is aware, nobody has ever seen it in working order. > > HTH, > Chris > > -- > Chris Boot > bo...@bootc.net ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Redundant Power Supply or battery backup for net6501
Hi Greg, Hi List, On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > I have a net5501, and measured that with a 2.5" disk (not ssd) it draws > about 500 mA at 12V. I have it connected to several sealed lead-acid > batteries in parallel, typically a 12Ah and two 7Ah. These batteries > are on float charge to keep them at 13.5V when there is AC power from > the utility. When the utility power fails, the net5501 continues to > run, and should last for many hours. Thank you for sharing your solution. How is the (complete) schematic for your setup (I saw the fuses and bypass capacitor missing schematic of phk which uses a similar setup as yours)? Is there also a charge protecting circuit involved or is the battery charging restricted (e.g. delta-V)? And another important question: How can I get it to fit in the rackmount kit? What is the current state of the onboard NiMH loader? On the homepage and in the manual is stated, that a 'NiMH battery backup connector with charge and monitoring' exists, has this been tried yet? If so, does it work and with what NiMH battery type? Soren wrote in the aforementioned post about releasing something, would this be hardware or a software patch of the fpga or kind-a chip upgrade to implement this battery charging functionality? Best, Andreas ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] Redundant Power Supply or battery backup for net6501
Hi everyone, there exist older entries for a redundant power supply or battery backed up units, yet not so much up to date information about the beloved net6501. Recently, I had a UPS failure which took down my rack-mounted net6501. I'm interessted in either a redundant power supply or a battery backup unit, which Soren claimed to be "released shortly" in early 2013 (Any news Soren?). Best regards, Andreas ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Recommended mSATA SSD
I use 2 ADATA SX300 and they work also. I also benchmarked one of the disks in Debian Wheezy 3.9-0.bpo.1-amd64 with fio 2.0.8. 2184 IOPS and 140 MB/sec on read with this configuration: [randr64] name=randread_t64_b8 description='Random Read 8k Blocks (64 Threads)' filename=/dev/sda direct=1 rw=randread blocksize=64k runtime=30 numjobs=64 iodepth=4 group_reporting=1 time_based Would be cool if you guys could provide some numbers too. On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:10 AM, James Turner wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 02:05:38AM +, Nikola Gyurov wrote: > > Intel SSDs are known to work too. > > I've personally tried these on a net6501-50: > > > http://soekris.eu/shop/accessories_net6501/intel_mini_pcie_ssd_drive_525_30gb_mlc_oem_en.html > > > http://soekris.eu/shop/accessories_net6501/intel_mini_pcie_ssd_drive_525_60gb_mlc_oem_en.html > > They should be available from Amazon as well. > > > > Best regards, > > Nikola Gyurov > > > > Nice, I was thinking about the Intel 525's glad to hear they are > supported well. Thanks! > > > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Thomas Fjellstrom > wrote: > > > I guess this isn't as helpful as I thought it'd be, but I'll post it > anyhow... > > > > > > I have a Crucial M4 128GB mSATA SSD in my 6501-50. It seems the M500 > has > > > replaced it, so there's no guarantee it works, but it might if crucial > designs > > > their ssd in similar ways from generation to generation. > > > > > > On Sun 23 Feb 2014 08:05:40 PM James Turner wrote: > > >> I'm looking to upgrade to a net6501 from a net5501 with ATA HDD and am > > >> thinking about going the mSATA SSD route. From looking over the list > it > > >> seems finding mSATA drives that work with the net6501 can sometimes > be a > > >> challenge. I would preferable like something at least 16GB but 32GB > > >> would be even better. SLC would be nice but because they are expensive > > >> and harder to find I'm OK with MLC or TLC. > > >> > > >> Is anyone able to recommend a mSATA SSD drive that is at least 16GB > that > > >> they have had success with and is easily available on Amazon or > Newegg? > > >> > > >> Otherwise, are most standard SATA SSD drives support without issue? > > >> > > >> Thanks. > > > > > > -- > > > Thomas Fjellstrom > > > tho...@fjellstrom.ca > > > ___ > > > Soekris-tech mailing list > > > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > > > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > > ___ > > Soekris-tech mailing list > > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > > > > -- > James Turner > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] Non-Ancient Debian Kernel .config?
Dennis is right, backports work perfectly. You can also use the LEDs with a custom kernel module, GPIO is IMHO still not working :-/ On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Dennis Skovborg Jørgensen < den...@unseen.dk> wrote: > On 2014-02-14 14:22, Erhard Schwenk wrote: > >> >> Or ist a custom kernel even unnecessary because net6501 hardware is fully >> supported (including crypto, networking, gpio etc.) with one of the >> standard Linux Kernel Images from Wheezy? Which one would I have to choose? >> >> > I don't know about gpio and crypto, but I installed using one of the > default (3.2?) kernels (amd64 flavour) and am presently running a newer > (3.11 or 3.12) kernel from backports. Both have been fine for my home > server usage, so at least there's a newer config in /boot available as a > starting point, if you find that you don't get everything running. > > > Kind regards > > Dennis Skovborg Jørgensen > > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
