Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:24:33PM +0200, Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > How are they noise-wise? Can they be run fanless? You can hear them a few seconds when booting, after that they are quiet. There is only a fan in the PSU, not on the CPU. -- B*E*R*T ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I've last week started using the Y-PWR "ideal diode" boards and so > far they're working out great. That’s good to hear. Looks like just what I need. Thanks for the suggestion. > I also bought an OpenUPS2, but havn't had time to play with it yet. Looks like I need to order some more hardware to test. Bryan ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
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What about the fitlet i.e. fitlet XA10-LAN barbone ? Anyone considered that as a substitute ? Anyone has tested it or has experiences ? Maybe performance tests ? Link: http://www.fit-pc.com/web/products/specifications/?model[]=FITLET-GX-C67-FLAN-W On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:09:37 -0700 Jerome Ibanes wrote: > Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? > > Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm > Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837 > > The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from > Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price. > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech -- Darius Moos ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
In message <1446400321.1756740.425985249.06027...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Bryan Vyhmei ster writes: >> And this company has some very interesting gadgets if you want to play >> with redundancy and local UPS for 12V boards: >> >> http://www.mini-box.com/micro-UPS-load-sharing > >I've purchased their thin Mini-ITX power supplies and other parts for >years now but never any of the micro-UPS stuff. I take it you're using >some of these items? I've last week started using the Y-PWR "ideal diode" boards and so far they're working out great. I also bought an OpenUPS2, but havn't had time to play with it yet. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message > <1446351929.83901.425694457.53ca2...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Bryan > Vyhmeist > er writes: > > > The 12V DC is a 4-pin connector (2x2) much like one of the CPU 12V lines > > And this company has some very interesting gadgets if you want to play > with redundancy and local UPS for 12V boards: > > http://www.mini-box.com/micro-UPS-load-sharing I’ve purchased their thin Mini-ITX power supplies and other parts for years now but never any of the micro-UPS stuff. I take it you’re using some of these items? Bryan ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
In message <1446351929.83901.425694457.53ca2...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Bryan Vyhmeist er writes: > The 12V DC is a 4-pin connector (2x2) much like one of the CPU 12V lines And this company has some very interesting gadgets if you want to play with redundancy and local UPS for 12V boards: http://www.mini-box.com/micro-UPS-load-sharing -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
Those Supermicro A1SAi and A1SRi boards are designed to run from 12V as well. Take a look at the manual or quick reference guide for the details. http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Atom/X10/A1SAi-2750F.cfm The 12V DC is a 4-pin connector (2x2) much like one of the CPU 12V lines on most ATX boards. I have several of the Supermicro boards and I’m intending to test the 12V functionality but haven’t had a chance yet. I am sad to see that the net6801 was dropped. The biggest advantage in my uses of a C2x50/C2x58 processor is AES-NI support for IPSec tunnels. Supermicro does offer the C2550/C2558 versions of those boards as well which offer four cores instead of eight and also a cheaper price tag. I hope Soekris comes out with another design with some additional horsepower compared to the net6501 series. Bryan ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
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Christopher Sean Hilton writes: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 08:45:47PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: >> Presumably you are using a 110V input? (and I wonder if a Kill-A-Watt?) >> >> I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from >> several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at >> 12-13V, which is about 6W. However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would >> draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W. >> >> I know the net6501 runs on 12V (or really enough about 5V to make the >> regulator work) as well, and that's attractive. Are there options for >> the supermicro, or anything else, for 12V, other than a regular >> inverter? > > I'm on 110AC and yes the meter is a Kill-a-watt. > > The SuperMicro machine would certainly not work on 12V. > > I not saying that the SuperMicro machine can replace the Soekris in > every use case. For my usage though, and that of anyone who's gonna > plug it into the wall for power, I'm saying it's not a bad deal. Thanks for the clarification. Indeed, 12V is not normal and your point that it doesn't use much wall power is totally fair. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
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Bob Bishop writes: > HI, > >> On 22 Oct 2015, at 01:45, Greg Troxel wrote: >> >> I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from >> several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at >> 12-13V, which is about 6W. However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would >> draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W. > > Nope. The switching regulator isn’t very lossy so it would draw about > 1A at 6V. Try it. Interesting; I will have to try that. IIRC (long ago, so unreliable) From reading the schematic it was a 7805, which is not switching, and I don't remember seeing anything big enough to be a buck downconverter, but I could well be wrong. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
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Hi Bob, That's what I observed as well with my bench power supply - as I dropped the voltage, the current would increase and wattage would remain relatively constant. I don't recall the exact point at which the board will sort of konk-out .. but I seem to recall the threshold is much above 6V. Also I noted that once the board was 'up' I was able to lower the voltage below the threshold that permitted it to boot - I think that this is probably pretty normal behaviour from the board's standpoint. But when setting a low-water voltage point it's probably best to be certain that that level permits booting. --Andrew On 2015-10-22 5:49 AM, Bob Bishop wrote: HI, On 22 Oct 2015, at 01:45, Greg Troxel wrote: I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at 12-13V, which is about 6W. However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W. Nope. The switching regulator isn’t very lossy so it would draw about 1A at 6V. Try it. -- Bob Bishop r...@gid.co.uk ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
HI, > On 22 Oct 2015, at 01:45, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from > several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at > 12-13V, which is about 6W. However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would > draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W. Nope. The switching regulator isn’t very lossy so it would draw about 1A at 6V. Try it. -- Bob Bishop r...@gid.co.uk ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On 2015-10-21 20:45:47 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from > several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at > 12-13V, which is about 6W. However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would > draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W. Have you tried this? It doesn't seem plausible. I would expect the power consumption to remain roughly constant independent of input voltage (so at 6V it would draw about 1A). A constant current would mean that the regulator just burns any excess voltage. hp -- _ | Peter J. Holzer | I think we need two definitions: |_|_) | WSR - Softwaredevelopment | 1) The problem the *users* want us to solve | | | und Projektunterstützung | 2) The problem our solution addresses. __/ | h...@wsr.ac.at |-- Phillip Hallam-Baker on spam signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 08:45:47PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > Presumably you are using a 110V input? (and I wonder if a Kill-A-Watt?) > > I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from > several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at > 12-13V, which is about 6W. However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would > draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W. > > I know the net6501 runs on 12V (or really enough about 5V to make the > regulator work) as well, and that's attractive. Are there options for > the supermicro, or anything else, for 12V, other than a regular > inverter? I'm on 110AC and yes the meter is a Kill-a-watt. The SuperMicro machine would certainly not work on 12V. I not saying that the SuperMicro machine can replace the Soekris in every use case. For my usage though, and that of anyone who's gonna plug it into the wall for power, I'm saying it's not a bad deal. -- Chris __o "All I was trying to do was get home from work." _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*).___o..___..o...ooO..._ Christopher Sean Hilton[chris/at/vindaloo/dot/com] pgpttcMLUfjwg.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
Christopher Sean Hilton writes: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:28:27PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote: > >> Given that just the Atom processor on the Supermicro has a TDP of 20W, I >> doubt that the whole system is not significantly more. Otherwise, why >> would they ship with a *200W* PSU? > > That's the same processor that was in the proposed Net6801-70 (Atom > C2758) Note well that the Net6801-70 is listed as system power between > 9W Idle and 31W active: http://beta.soekris.net/net6801.html. I'm not > sure that TDP is a good indicator of the power that the CPU uses. > > In my case I took the precaution of running my SuperMicro box on a > Watt Meter for a couple of weeks. It averaged 25W. The processor TDP > is 13W and the power supply is a 200W unit. My box has 4GB of RAM and > 2.5" form factor 64GB SSD. My Soekris Net6501-50 with the same hard > drive averages 18W on the same watt meter. > > I suspect the 200W on the power supply is the maximum it can supply > and that it's the smallest power supply that SuperMicro has. Presumably you are using a 110V input? (and I wonder if a Kill-A-Watt?) I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from several AGM batteries and a float supply. I find that it draws 0.5A at 12-13V, which is about 6W. However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W. I know the net6501 runs on 12V (or really enough about 5V to make the regulator work) as well, and that's attractive. Are there options for the supermicro, or anything else, for 12V, other than a regular inverter? signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:28:27PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote: > Given that just the Atom processor on the Supermicro has a TDP of 20W, I > doubt that the whole system is not significantly more. Otherwise, why > would they ship with a *200W* PSU? > That's the same processor that was in the proposed Net6801-70 (Atom C2758) Note well that the Net6801-70 is listed as system power between 9W Idle and 31W active: http://beta.soekris.net/net6801.html. I'm not sure that TDP is a good indicator of the power that the CPU uses. In my case I took the precaution of running my SuperMicro box on a Watt Meter for a couple of weeks. It averaged 25W. The processor TDP is 13W and the power supply is a 200W unit. My box has 4GB of RAM and 2.5" form factor 64GB SSD. My Soekris Net6501-50 with the same hard drive averages 18W on the same watt meter. I suspect the 200W on the power supply is the maximum it can supply and that it's the smallest power supply that SuperMicro has. -- Chris __o "All I was trying to do was get home from work." _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*).___o..___..o...ooO..._ Christopher Sean Hilton[chris/at/vindaloo/dot/com] pgpVuiykyREyL.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
I think it would be interesting to see some diversification from the "server-as-a-router" market's current offerings, which are mostly just generic computers with multiple network interfaces and rackmount cases. Soekris is in an interesting position to be able to build application specific hardware, since the board is mostly custom. I think it would be cool if we had packet processing and switching done in hardware, and integrated into the OS' routing and bridging tables, so that packet switching and some routing decisions could be made in purpose specific hardware rather than on the general use CPU. I think the specs of the 6501 are sufficient for most network appliance applications, but what is missing is the ability to significantly scale up traffic. Doing that with a general purpose CPU seems expensive and would be taxing on the rest of the operating system. It seems a few companies have dabbled with creating PCIe ethernet switches that can switch packets on-card, but nothing that looks like it's meant to be controlled by or integrated well with the operating system. -Dan On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:44 PM Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:27:23PM +0200, Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > > That makes sense, but it's still a pity not to have a higher spec > > machine to move to, even if it's not that particular model. > > > > Though on the other hand it makes a fair amount of sense: I've been > > searching for alternatives and the latest Atom is about 3 years old! It > > seems like this market doesn't see a lot of activity, unfortunately. > > Having a higher spec machine to move to depends on a lot of things but > it's not worth speculating on that in this list. > > One thing that's always surprised me is that Soekris has not built a > machine with socketed RAM. I'm sure that there's a good reason for it > but since my load tends to be more memory than CPU footprint, non > socketed RAM makes Soekris stuff less desirable. > > -- > Chris > > __o "All I was trying to do was get home from work." > _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks > ___(*)/_(*).___o..___..o...ooO..._ > Christopher Sean Hilton[chris/at/vindaloo/dot/com] > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:27:23PM +0200, Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > That makes sense, but it's still a pity not to have a higher spec > machine to move to, even if it's not that particular model. > > Though on the other hand it makes a fair amount of sense: I've been > searching for alternatives and the latest Atom is about 3 years old! It > seems like this market doesn't see a lot of activity, unfortunately. Having a higher spec machine to move to depends on a lot of things but it's not worth speculating on that in this list. One thing that's always surprised me is that Soekris has not built a machine with socketed RAM. I'm sure that there's a good reason for it but since my load tends to be more memory than CPU footprint, non socketed RAM makes Soekris stuff less desirable. -- Chris __o "All I was trying to do was get home from work." _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*).___o..___..o...ooO..._ Christopher Sean Hilton[chris/at/vindaloo/dot/com] pgp95QcD2j8BV.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
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When I originally saw this thread I didn't think much about it but given my experience, it makes sense. I'm not sure that there's a place in the market for the Net6801. Consider that there are several Intel Atom based machines which are only slightly more expensive than the current Net6501-70. Many of these machines are based on motherboards designed by and build by or for Intel. These machines take commodity RAM and Power Supplies so they are cheaper to initially configure and to maintain. Purchase cost in order: Net6501-50, standard case: ... $346 / $163 Net6501-70, standard case: ... $470 / $39 Net6501-50, 1U case: . $473 / $36 SuperMicro SYS-5018A-FTN4, 1U case, no RAM: .. $509 / Net6501-70, 1U case: . $597 / -$88 The problem with the Net6801 is that there is no price point for it. -- Chris __o "All I was trying to do was get home from work." _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*).___o..___..o...ooO..._ Christopher Sean Hilton[chris/at/vindaloo/dot/com] pgp3nLWHXAL7U.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On 10/19/15 10:02 AM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:33:26AM -0700, Dan Shechter wrote: >> Hi Conrad, >> >> What about Serial console, especially for the BIOS? >> > > If you look at the pictures of that box behind the links you'll > see that it has a front panel DB9 serial port. When I setup my > SuperMicro machine, which is earlier but similar, I setup the > serial console on OpenBSD without trouble. Managing the the BIOS > via serial doesn't seem to be an option but out-of-band access is > no problem. SuperMicro boxes are good at that. Also, it would appear, from the specs page, that it actually has on-board IPMI, which for Supermicro boxes of my acquaintance means it's probably got on-board iKVM too. Nice little box! -- "" -SD ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
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On 2015-10-19, Dan Shechter wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:26 AM, wrote: >>> Jerome Ibanes hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09 >>> geschrieben: >>> Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? >>> >>> Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm >>> Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837 >>> >>> The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from >>> Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price. >> >> I am using one of them and pretty happy. IMHO it's a good Soekris >> replacement. > > What about Serial console, especially for the BIOS? > > -Dan They have a BIOS option to set them to use serial console, it's not active by default so you need to plug in a keyboard or use IPMI for initial setup. Watch out for IPMI on these. This usually *is* enabled by default, setup with a common default admin password, and to share the first main NIC if nothing's connected to the management port, leaving access to the console/power/etc a lot wider open than you probably want. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:33:26AM -0700, Dan Shechter wrote: > Hi Conrad, > > What about Serial console, especially for the BIOS? > If you look at the pictures of that box behind the links you'll see that it has a front panel DB9 serial port. When I setup my SuperMicro machine, which is earlier but similar, I setup the serial console on OpenBSD without trouble. Managing the the BIOS via serial doesn't seem to be an option but out-of-band access is no problem. -- Chris __o "All I was trying to do was get home from work." _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*).___o..___..o...ooO..._ Christopher Sean Hilton[chris/at/vindaloo/dot/com] pgpU7F7IJ4Aqy.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 06:26:33PM +0200, ck+soekrist...@bl4ckb0x.de wrote: > Hi Jerome, > > > Jerome Ibanes hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09 > > geschrieben: > > Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? > > > > Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm > > Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837 > > > > The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from > > Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price. > > I am using one of them and pretty happy. IMHO it's a good Soekris replacement. > I'm replacing my 6501 with a 1U SuperMicro Atom box that's router specific. By router specific I mean that the chassis mounts backwards so the ports are on the front. For me the advantages of the SuperMicro are Price and Expansion: o Price: The SuperMicro box was $349 in 1U form with is about the same as a 6501 in the non-rackmount chassis. The 6501 in rackmount chassis is over $100 more expensive; o Expansion: The SuperMicro box takes standard RAM so I can side the RAM to my needs are commodity prices. My box has 4GB of RAM. The power requirements are between the two comparable at 20W. As far as quality goes I would have to say that both seem equal and the SuperMicro may have the edge. I'm rather happy not to have my hands cut up by the sharp edges inside the Soekris Chassis. -- Chris __o "All I was trying to do was get home from work." _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*).___o..___..o...ooO..._ Christopher Sean Hilton[chris/at/vindaloo/dot/com] pgpugjzVLDUN3.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
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Hi Conrad, What about Serial console, especially for the BIOS? -Dan On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:26 AM, wrote: > Hi Jerome, > >> Jerome Ibanes hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09 >> geschrieben: >> Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? >> >> Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm >> Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837 >> >> The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from >> Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price. > > I am using one of them and pretty happy. IMHO it's a good Soekris replacement. > > Cheers > Conrad > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
Hi Jerome, > Jerome Ibanes hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09 > geschrieben: > Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? > > Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm > Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837 > > The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from > Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price. I am using one of them and pretty happy. IMHO it's a good Soekris replacement. Cheers Conrad ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:09:37PM -0700, Jerome Ibanes wrote: > Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? > > Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm > Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837 > > The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from > Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price. We have 20..30 of those boxes and they just work. They have the regular, high SuperMicro quality. I would not they less than Soekris. Grtnx, -- B*E*R*T ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4? Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837 The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
Hi, I also found the net6801 very interesting and a good step forward. Recently, I replaced my two 5501 and 6501 with two apu's from pc engines. Not exactly the amount of nics (only 3) and no PCIe expansion, yet it serves my purpose and it is a good deal for a reasonable price. It's not ARM based, but yields good performance for that price. I use it as a virtualized high availability firewall appliance. Best, Andreas ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
Howdy, On the low end, I would say a Banana Pi R1 router is comparable. I have one and it has problems, but is usable. I have only used it on slow networks(like 4 mbps down and 1 up. Cnewer chipsets with eight 64 bit cpus should be able to keep up with much faster traffic at low power. Ralph On 10/6/15, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2015-10-06, Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > >> Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already. > > These Rangeley-based systems by ADI Engineering seem to be actually > available and in quantities down to 1: > > US: > http://store.netgate.com/Production-Systems-C209.aspx > > EU: > https://shop.voleatech.de/en/product-category/network-hardware/ > > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On 2015-10-06, Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already. These Rangeley-based systems by ADI Engineering seem to be actually available and in quantities down to 1: US: http://store.netgate.com/Production-Systems-C209.aspx EU: https://shop.voleatech.de/en/product-category/network-hardware/ -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 12:55:49 PM Ralph Green wrote: > Howdy, > I think this was a smart move. When I saw the original announcement > for the 6801, I thought it was a bad idea. That kind of CPU with the > support chips it needs is not cost effective. I hope they switch to a > 64 bit arm design. Perhaps, yes. Still a pity not to have anything to upgrade to, though. By the way, what is the comparable ARM hardware? I tried searching but I keep finding Raspberry Pi and such stuff. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
Howdy, I think this was a smart move. When I saw the original announcement for the 6801, I thought it was a bad idea. That kind of CPU with the support chips it needs is not cost effective. I hope they switch to a 64 bit arm design. Good day, Ralph ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
It's in the "Latest News" column of the Home page: " Latest News *October 6, 2015:* Development of the net6801 has been shelved indefinitely due to high production and component costs. We appreciate your interest." On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:24 AM Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: > On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:09 +0200 > Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > > > On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 04:38:51 PM Stephen Mintz wrote: > > > I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris > > > reconsiders. > > > > Me too. The hardware certainly needs an upgrade. Here I am starting to > see ads > > for 300 Mbps fiber and the old hardware just won't do for that. It's been > > managing about 70 Mbps on my 100 Mbps line, so it definitely won't do > for the > > next bandwidth upgrade. > > > > The page cites cost issues, but I do not think people buy such things > because > > they are cheap. Among other things, I am looking for something more > flexible > > and reliable than my ISP's router, which needs power cycling every few > weeks, > > and I am willing to pay extra for that. > > > > Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already. > > Saw that too. Didn't see where they wrote about it. Is it on the page ? > > I was planning on buying one now on November :( > > matheus > > -- > "We will call you Cygnus, > the God of balance you shall be." > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:09 +0200 Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 04:38:51 PM Stephen Mintz wrote: > > I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris > > reconsiders. > > Me too. The hardware certainly needs an upgrade. Here I am starting to see > ads > for 300 Mbps fiber and the old hardware just won't do for that. It's been > managing about 70 Mbps on my 100 Mbps line, so it definitely won't do for the > next bandwidth upgrade. > > The page cites cost issues, but I do not think people buy such things because > they are cheap. Among other things, I am looking for something more flexible > and reliable than my ISP's router, which needs power cycling every few weeks, > and I am willing to pay extra for that. > > Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already. Saw that too. Didn't see where they wrote about it. Is it on the page ? I was planning on buying one now on November :( matheus -- "We will call you Cygnus, the God of balance you shall be." ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
Guess I picked up my used net6501-70 on e-bay just in time! Has anybody experimented with PCIe ethernet switching cards? I have been looking at the DualComm DCP-1004(L), which might be a nice way to do switching through my net6501 without using the onboard CPU for layer-2. I was having trouble finding examples of applications that others have used, so I'm wondering how stable they are. -Dan On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:09 AM Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 04:38:51 PM Stephen Mintz wrote: > > I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris > > reconsiders. > > Me too. The hardware certainly needs an upgrade. Here I am starting to see > ads > for 300 Mbps fiber and the old hardware just won't do for that. It's been > managing about 70 Mbps on my 100 Mbps line, so it definitely won't do for > the > next bandwidth upgrade. > > The page cites cost issues, but I do not think people buy such things > because > they are cheap. Among other things, I am looking for something more > flexible > and reliable than my ISP's router, which needs power cycling every few > weeks, > and I am willing to pay extra for that. > > Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already. > > > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 04:38:51 PM Stephen Mintz wrote: > I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris > reconsiders. Me too. The hardware certainly needs an upgrade. Here I am starting to see ads for 300 Mbps fiber and the old hardware just won't do for that. It's been managing about 70 Mbps on my 100 Mbps line, so it definitely won't do for the next bandwidth upgrade. The page cites cost issues, but I do not think people buy such things because they are cheap. Among other things, I am looking for something more flexible and reliable than my ISP's router, which needs power cycling every few weeks, and I am willing to pay extra for that. Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris reconsiders. On Tue, Oct 6, 2015, 9:33 AM Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote: > I just saw the news on soekris.com > > This is very unfortunate. I was looking forward to it, as my net6501-70 has > been having trouble keeping up with my fiber connection. > > Are there any other plans to release something more powerful than the > net6501-70? > ___ > Soekris-tech mailing list > Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com > http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech > ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
[Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.
I just saw the news on soekris.com This is very unfortunate. I was looking forward to it, as my net6501-70 has been having trouble keeping up with my fiber connection. Are there any other plans to release something more powerful than the net6501-70? ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech