Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Bert Kiers]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:24:33PM +0200, Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote:
 
> How are they noise-wise? Can they be run fanless?

You can hear them a few seconds when booting, after that they are quiet.
There is only a fan in the PSU, not on the CPU.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Poul-Henning Kamp]

In message <1446351929.83901.425694457.53ca2...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, 
Bryan Vyhmeist
er writes:

> The 12V DC is a 4-pin connector (2x2) much like one of the CPU 12V lines

And this company has some very interesting gadgets if you want to play
with redundancy and local UPS for 12V boards:

http://www.mini-box.com/micro-UPS-load-sharing

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Bryan Vyhmeister]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> 
> In message
> <1446351929.83901.425694457.53ca2...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Bryan
> Vyhmeist
> er writes:
> 
> > The 12V DC is a 4-pin connector (2x2) much like one of the CPU 12V lines
> 
> And this company has some very interesting gadgets if you want to play
> with redundancy and local UPS for 12V boards:
> 
>   http://www.mini-box.com/micro-UPS-load-sharing

I’ve purchased their thin Mini-ITX power supplies and other parts for
years now but never any of the micro-UPS stuff. I take it you’re using
some of these items?

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Poul-Henning Kamp]

In message <1446400321.1756740.425985249.06027...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, 
Bryan Vyhmei
ster writes:

>> And this company has some very interesting gadgets if you want to play
>> with redundancy and local UPS for 12V boards:
>> 
>>  http://www.mini-box.com/micro-UPS-load-sharing
>
>I've purchased their thin Mini-ITX power supplies and other parts for
>years now but never any of the micro-UPS stuff. I take it you're using
>some of these items?

I've last week started using the Y-PWR "ideal diode" boards and so
far they're working out great.

I also bought an OpenUPS2, but havn't had time to play with it yet.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Bryan Vyhmeister]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> I've last week started using the Y-PWR "ideal diode" boards and so
> far they're working out great.

That’s good to hear. Looks like just what I need. Thanks for the
suggestion.

> I also bought an OpenUPS2, but havn't had time to play with it yet.

Looks like I need to order some more hardware to test.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Darius Moos]

What about the fitlet i.e. fitlet XA10-LAN barbone ?
Anyone considered that as a substitute ?
Anyone has tested it or has experiences ? Maybe performance tests ?

Link: 
http://www.fit-pc.com/web/products/specifications/?model[]=FITLET-GX-C67-FLAN-W


On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:09:37 -0700
Jerome Ibanes  wrote:

> Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4?
> 
> Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm
> Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837
> 
> The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from
> Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price.
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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Bryan Vyhmeister]

Those Supermicro A1SAi and A1SRi boards are designed to run from 12V as
well. Take a look at the manual or quick reference guide for the
details.

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Atom/X10/A1SAi-2750F.cfm

The 12V DC is a 4-pin connector (2x2) much like one of the CPU 12V lines
on most ATX boards. I have several of the Supermicro boards and I’m
intending to test the 12V functionality but haven’t had a chance yet. I
am sad to see that the net6801 was dropped. The biggest advantage in my
uses of a C2x50/C2x58 processor is AES-NI support for IPSec tunnels.
Supermicro does offer the C2550/C2558 versions of those boards as well
which offer four cores instead of eight and also a cheaper price tag. I
hope Soekris comes out with another design with some additional
horsepower compared to the net6501 series.

Bryan
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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Peter J. Holzer]

On 2015-10-21 20:45:47 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
> I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from
> several AGM batteries and a float supply.  I find that it draws 0.5A at
> 12-13V, which is about 6W.  However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would
> draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W.

Have you tried this? It doesn't seem plausible. I would expect the power
consumption to remain roughly constant independent of input voltage (so
at 6V it would draw about 1A). A constant current would mean that the
regulator just burns any excess voltage.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Bob Bishop]

HI,

> On 22 Oct 2015, at 01:45, Greg Troxel  wrote:
> 
> I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from
> several AGM batteries and a float supply.  I find that it draws 0.5A at
> 12-13V, which is about 6W.  However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would
> draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W.

Nope. The switching regulator isn’t very lossy so it would draw about 1A at 6V. 
Try it.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Greg Troxel]

Bob Bishop  writes:

> HI,
>
>> On 22 Oct 2015, at 01:45, Greg Troxel  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from
>> several AGM batteries and a float supply.  I find that it draws 0.5A at
>> 12-13V, which is about 6W.  However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would
>> draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W.
>
> Nope. The switching regulator isn’t very lossy so it would draw about
> 1A at 6V. Try it.

Interesting; I will have to try that.  IIRC (long ago, so unreliable)
From reading the schematic it was a 7805, which is not switching, and I
don't remember seeing anything big enough to be a buck downconverter,
but I could well be wrong.


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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Greg Troxel]

Christopher Sean Hilton  writes:

> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 08:45:47PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> Presumably you are using a 110V input?  (and I wonder if a Kill-A-Watt?)
>> 
>> I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from
>> several AGM batteries and a float supply.  I find that it draws 0.5A at
>> 12-13V, which is about 6W.  However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would
>> draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W.
>> 
>> I know the net6501 runs on 12V (or really enough about 5V to make the
>> regulator work) as well, and that's attractive.  Are there options for
>> the supermicro, or anything else, for 12V, other than a regular
>> inverter?
>
> I'm on 110AC and yes the meter is a Kill-a-watt. 
>
> The SuperMicro machine would certainly not work on 12V. 
>
> I not saying that the SuperMicro machine can replace the Soekris in
> every use case. For my usage though, and that of anyone who's gonna
> plug it into the wall for power, I'm saying it's not a bad deal.

Thanks for the clarification.  Indeed, 12V is not normal and your point
that it doesn't use much wall power is totally fair.


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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Andrew Atrens]

Hi Bob,

That's what I observed as well with my bench power supply - as I dropped 
the voltage, the current would increase and wattage would remain 
relatively constant.


I don't recall the exact point at which  the board will sort of konk-out 
.. but I seem to recall the threshold is much above 6V. Also I noted 
that once the board was 'up' I was able to lower the voltage below the 
threshold that permitted it to boot - I think that this is probably 
pretty normal behaviour from the board's standpoint.  But when setting a 
low-water voltage point it's probably best to be certain that that level 
permits booting.


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On 2015-10-22 5:49 AM, Bob Bishop wrote:

HI,


On 22 Oct 2015, at 01:45, Greg Troxel  wrote:

I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from
several AGM batteries and a float supply.  I find that it draws 0.5A at
12-13V, which is about 6W.  However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would
draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W.

Nope. The switching regulator isn’t very lossy so it would draw about 1A at 6V. 
Try it.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Christopher Sean Hilton]

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 08:45:47PM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
> Presumably you are using a 110V input?  (and I wonder if a Kill-A-Watt?)
> 
> I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from
> several AGM batteries and a float supply.  I find that it draws 0.5A at
> 12-13V, which is about 6W.  However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would
> draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W.
> 
> I know the net6501 runs on 12V (or really enough about 5V to make the
> regulator work) as well, and that's attractive.  Are there options for
> the supermicro, or anything else, for 12V, other than a regular
> inverter?

I'm on 110AC and yes the meter is a Kill-a-watt. 

The SuperMicro machine would certainly not work on 12V. 

I not saying that the SuperMicro machine can replace the Soekris in
every use case. For my usage though, and that of anyone who's gonna
plug it into the wall for power, I'm saying it's not a bad deal.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Christopher Sean Hilton]

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:28:27PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote:

> Given that just the Atom processor on the Supermicro has a TDP of 20W, I
> doubt that the whole system is not significantly more. Otherwise, why
> would they ship with a *200W* PSU?
> 

That's the same processor that was in the proposed Net6801-70 (Atom
C2758) Note well that the Net6801-70 is listed as system power between
9W Idle and 31W active: http://beta.soekris.net/net6801.html. I'm not
sure that TDP is a good indicator of the power that the CPU uses. 

In my case I took the precaution of running my SuperMicro box on a
Watt Meter for a couple of weeks. It averaged 25W. The processor TDP
is 13W and the power supply is a 200W unit. My box has 4GB of RAM and
2.5" form factor 64GB SSD. My Soekris Net6501-50 with the same hard
drive averages 18W on the same watt meter. 

I suspect the 200W on the power supply is the maximum it can supply
and that it's the smallest power supply that SuperMicro has.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Greg Troxel]

Christopher Sean Hilton  writes:

> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:28:27PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote:
>
>> Given that just the Atom processor on the Supermicro has a TDP of 20W, I
>> doubt that the whole system is not significantly more. Otherwise, why
>> would they ship with a *200W* PSU?
>
> That's the same processor that was in the proposed Net6801-70 (Atom
> C2758) Note well that the Net6801-70 is listed as system power between
> 9W Idle and 31W active: http://beta.soekris.net/net6801.html. I'm not
> sure that TDP is a good indicator of the power that the CPU uses. 
>
> In my case I took the precaution of running my SuperMicro box on a
> Watt Meter for a couple of weeks. It averaged 25W. The processor TDP
> is 13W and the power supply is a 200W unit. My box has 4GB of RAM and
> 2.5" form factor 64GB SSD. My Soekris Net6501-50 with the same hard
> drive averages 18W on the same watt meter. 
>
> I suspect the 200W on the power supply is the maximum it can supply
> and that it's the smallest power supply that SuperMicro has.

Presumably you are using a 110V input?  (and I wonder if a Kill-A-Watt?)

I have a net5501 (with 40G PATA spinning disk) that I run on 12V, from
several AGM batteries and a float supply.  I find that it draws 0.5A at
12-13V, which is about 6W.  However, if I fed it 6V instead, it would
draw the same 0.5A and be about 3W.

I know the net6501 runs on 12V (or really enough about 5V to make the
regulator work) as well, and that's attractive.  Are there options for
the supermicro, or anything else, for 12V, other than a regular
inverter?


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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Christopher Sean Hilton]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:27:23PM +0200, Vadim Troshchinskiy wrote:
> That makes sense, but it's still a pity not to have a higher spec 
> machine to move to, even if it's not that particular model.
> 
> Though on the other hand it makes a fair amount of sense: I've been 
> searching for alternatives and the latest Atom is about 3 years old! It 
> seems like this market doesn't see a lot of activity, unfortunately.

Having a higher spec machine to move to depends on a lot of things but
it's not worth speculating on that in this list.

One thing that's always surprised me is that Soekris has not built a
machine with socketed RAM. I'm sure that there's a good reason for it
but since my load tends to be more memory than CPU footprint, non
socketed RAM makes Soekris stuff less desirable. 

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Bert Kiers]

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:09:37PM -0700, Jerome Ibanes wrote:
> Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4?
> 
> Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm
> Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837
> 
> The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from
> Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price.

We have 20..30 of those boxes and they just work.  They have the
regular, high SuperMicro quality.  I would not they less than Soekris.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Christopher Sean Hilton]

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 06:26:33PM +0200, ck+soekrist...@bl4ckb0x.de wrote:
> Hi Jerome,
> 
> > Jerome Ibanes  hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09
> > geschrieben:
> > Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4?
> > 
> > Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm
> > Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837
> > 
> > The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from
> > Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price.
> 
> I am using one of them and pretty happy. IMHO it's a good Soekris replacement.
> 

I'm replacing my 6501 with a 1U SuperMicro Atom box that's router
specific. By router specific I mean that the chassis mounts backwards
so the ports are on the front. For me the advantages of the SuperMicro
are Price and Expansion:

   o Price: The SuperMicro box was $349 in 1U form with is about the
 same as a 6501 in the non-rackmount chassis. The 6501 in
 rackmount chassis is over $100 more expensive;

   o Expansion: The SuperMicro box takes standard RAM so I can side
 the RAM to my needs are commodity prices. My box has 4GB of RAM.

The power requirements are between the two comparable at 20W. As far
as quality goes I would have to say that both seem equal and the
SuperMicro may have the edge. I'm rather happy not to have my hands
cut up by the sharp edges inside the Soekris Chassis.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Christopher Sean Hilton]

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:33:26AM -0700, Dan Shechter wrote:
> Hi Conrad,
> 
> What about Serial console, especially for the BIOS?
> 

If you look at the pictures of that box behind the links you'll see
that it has a front panel DB9 serial port. When I setup my SuperMicro
machine, which is earlier but similar, I setup the serial console on
OpenBSD without trouble. Managing the the BIOS via serial doesn't seem
to be an option but out-of-band access is no problem.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Stuart Henderson]

On 2015-10-19, Dan Shechter  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:26 AM,   wrote:
>>> Jerome Ibanes  hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09
>>> geschrieben:
>>> Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4?
>>>
>>> Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm
>>> Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837
>>>
>>> The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from
>>> Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price.
>>
>> I am using one of them and pretty happy. IMHO it's a good Soekris 
>> replacement.
>
> What about Serial console, especially for the BIOS?
>
> -Dan

They have a BIOS option to set them to use serial console, it's not active
by default so you need to plug in a keyboard or use IPMI for initial setup.

Watch out for IPMI on these. This usually *is* enabled by default, setup with 
a common default admin password, and to share the first main NIC if nothing's
connected to the management port, leaving access to the console/power/etc a
lot wider open than you probably want.


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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Christopher Sean Hilton]

When I originally saw this thread I didn't think much about it but
given my experience, it makes sense. I'm not sure that there's a place
in the market for the Net6801. Consider that there are several Intel
Atom based machines which are only slightly more expensive than the
current Net6501-70. Many of these machines are based on motherboards
designed by and build by or for Intel. These machines take commodity
RAM and Power Supplies so they are cheaper to initially configure and
to maintain.

Purchase cost in order:

 Net6501-50, standard case: ... $346 / $163
 Net6501-70, standard case: ... $470 /  $39
 Net6501-50, 1U case: . $473 /  $36
 SuperMicro SYS-5018A-FTN4, 1U case, no RAM: .. $509 /  
 Net6501-70, 1U case: . $597 / -$88

The problem with the Net6801 is that there is no price point for it.

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Szechuan Death]

On 10/19/15 10:02 AM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:33:26AM -0700, Dan Shechter wrote:
>> Hi Conrad,
>> 
>> What about Serial console, especially for the BIOS?
>> 
> 
> If you look at the pictures of that box behind the links you'll
> see that it has a front panel DB9 serial port. When I setup my
> SuperMicro machine, which is earlier but similar, I setup the
> serial console on OpenBSD without trouble. Managing the the BIOS
> via serial doesn't seem to be an option but out-of-band access is
> no problem.

SuperMicro boxes are good at that.

Also, it would appear, from the specs page, that it actually has
on-board IPMI, which for Supermicro boxes of my acquaintance means
it's probably got on-board iKVM too.

Nice little box!

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[ck+soekristech]

Hi Jerome,

> Jerome Ibanes  hat am 19. Oktober 2015 um 01:09
> geschrieben:
> Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4?
> 
> Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm
> Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837
> 
> The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from
> Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price.

I am using one of them and pretty happy. IMHO it's a good Soekris replacement.

Cheers
Conrad
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[Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Jerome Ibanes]

Does anyone has experience with Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4?

Specs: http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/5018/SYS-5018A-FTN4.cfm
Quote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101837

The quality is certainly not comparable to what we've seen from
Soekris, but this seems to be an acceptable solution for the price.
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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Andreas Steinel]

Hi,

I also found the net6801 very interesting and a good step forward.
Recently, I replaced my two 5501 and 6501 with two apu's from pc engines.
Not exactly the amount of nics (only 3) and no PCIe expansion, yet it
serves my purpose and it is a good deal for a reasonable price. It's not
ARM based, but yields good performance for that price. I use it as a
virtualized high availability firewall appliance.

Best,
Andreas
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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Ralph Green]

Howdy,
  I think this was a smart move.  When I saw the original announcement
for the 6801, I thought it was a bad idea.  That kind of CPU with the
support chips it needs is not cost effective.  I hope they switch to a
64 bit arm design.
Good day,
Ralph
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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Vadim Troshchinskiy]

On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 12:55:49 PM Ralph Green wrote:
> Howdy,
>   I think this was a smart move.  When I saw the original announcement
> for the 6801, I thought it was a bad idea.  That kind of CPU with the
> support chips it needs is not cost effective.  I hope they switch to a
> 64 bit arm design.

Perhaps, yes. Still a pity not to have anything to upgrade to, though.

By the way, what is the comparable ARM hardware? I tried searching but I keep 
finding Raspberry Pi and such stuff.


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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Christian Weisgerber]

On 2015-10-06, Vadim Troshchinskiy  wrote:

> Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already.

These Rangeley-based systems by ADI Engineering seem to be actually
available and in quantities down to 1:

US:
http://store.netgate.com/Production-Systems-C209.aspx

EU:
https://shop.voleatech.de/en/product-category/network-hardware/

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Ralph Green]

Howdy,
  On the low end, I would say a Banana Pi R1 router is comparable.  I
have one and it has problems, but is usable.  I have only used it on
slow networks(like 4 mbps down and 1 up.  Cnewer chipsets with eight
64 bit cpus should be able to keep up with much faster traffic at low
power.
Ralph


On 10/6/15, Christian Weisgerber  wrote:
> On 2015-10-06, Vadim Troshchinskiy  wrote:
>
>> Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already.
>
> These Rangeley-based systems by ADI Engineering seem to be actually
> available and in quantities down to 1:
>
> US:
> http://store.netgate.com/Production-Systems-C209.aspx
>
> EU:
> https://shop.voleatech.de/en/product-category/network-hardware/
>
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[Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Vadim Troshchinskiy]

I just saw the news on soekris.com

This is very unfortunate. I was looking forward to it, as my net6501-70 has 
been having trouble keeping up with my fiber connection.

Are there any other plans to release something more powerful than the 
net6501-70?
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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Dan]

Guess I picked up my used net6501-70 on e-bay just in time!

Has anybody experimented with PCIe ethernet switching cards?  I have been
looking at the DualComm DCP-1004(L), which might be a nice way to do
switching through my net6501 without using the onboard CPU for layer-2.  I
was having trouble finding examples of applications that others have used,
so I'm wondering how stable they are.

-Dan

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:09 AM Vadim Troshchinskiy  wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 04:38:51 PM Stephen Mintz wrote:
> > I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris
> > reconsiders.
>
> Me too. The hardware certainly needs an upgrade. Here I am starting to see
> ads
> for 300 Mbps fiber and the old hardware just won't do for that. It's been
> managing about 70 Mbps on my 100 Mbps line, so it definitely won't do for
> the
> next bandwidth upgrade.
>
> The page cites cost issues, but I do not think people buy such things
> because
> they are cheap. Among other things, I am looking for something more
> flexible
> and reliable than my ISP's router, which needs power cycling every few
> weeks,
> and I am willing to pay extra for that.
>
> Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already.
>
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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Nenhum_de_Nos]

On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:09 +0200
Vadim Troshchinskiy  wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 04:38:51 PM Stephen Mintz wrote:
> > I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris
> > reconsiders.
> 
> Me too. The hardware certainly needs an upgrade. Here I am starting to see 
> ads 
> for 300 Mbps fiber and the old hardware just won't do for that. It's been 
> managing about 70 Mbps on my 100 Mbps line, so it definitely won't do for the 
> next bandwidth upgrade.
> 
> The page cites cost issues, but I do not think people buy such things because 
> they are cheap. Among other things, I am looking for something more flexible 
> and reliable than my ISP's router, which needs power cycling every few weeks, 
> and I am willing to pay extra for that.
> 
> Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already.

Saw that too. Didn't see where they wrote about it. Is it on the page ?

I was planning on buying one now on November :(

matheus

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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Vadim Troshchinskiy]

On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 04:38:51 PM Stephen Mintz wrote:
> I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris
> reconsiders.

Me too. The hardware certainly needs an upgrade. Here I am starting to see ads 
for 300 Mbps fiber and the old hardware just won't do for that. It's been 
managing about 70 Mbps on my 100 Mbps line, so it definitely won't do for the 
next bandwidth upgrade.

The page cites cost issues, but I do not think people buy such things because 
they are cheap. Among other things, I am looking for something more flexible 
and reliable than my ISP's router, which needs power cycling every few weeks, 
and I am willing to pay extra for that.

Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already.


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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Stephen Mintz]

I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris
reconsiders.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015, 9:33 AM Vadim Troshchinskiy  wrote:

> I just saw the news on soekris.com
>
> This is very unfortunate. I was looking forward to it, as my net6501-70 has
> been having trouble keeping up with my fiber connection.
>
> Are there any other plans to release something more powerful than the
> net6501-70?
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Re: [Soekris] I see development of the net6801 has been dropped.

[Dan]

It's in the "Latest News" column of the Home page:

"
Latest News

*October 6, 2015:*


Development of the net6801 has been shelved indefinitely due to high
production and component costs. We appreciate your interest."

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:24 AM Nenhum_de_Nos 
wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 19:09 +0200
> Vadim Troshchinskiy  wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 04:38:51 PM Stephen Mintz wrote:
> > > I am crushed as well. Hoping to retire my 5501-70. I hope Soekris
> > > reconsiders.
> >
> > Me too. The hardware certainly needs an upgrade. Here I am starting to
> see ads
> > for 300 Mbps fiber and the old hardware just won't do for that. It's been
> > managing about 70 Mbps on my 100 Mbps line, so it definitely won't do
> for the
> > next bandwidth upgrade.
> >
> > The page cites cost issues, but I do not think people buy such things
> because
> > they are cheap. Among other things, I am looking for something more
> flexible
> > and reliable than my ISP's router, which needs power cycling every few
> weeks,
> > and I am willing to pay extra for that.
> >
> > Besides, Lanner seems to have something out already.
>
> Saw that too. Didn't see where they wrote about it. Is it on the page ?
>
> I was planning on buying one now on November :(
>
> matheus
>
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