Re: Question about Normalmap

2015-05-11 Thread Graham Bell
Nvidia would do the invert Y because that was how most game engines
accepted normal maps. The problem then was that different 3D packages
didn't always conform to this.

What many do now is (depending on what they use, Maya/Max, etc) and to keep
maps consistent for the context, is generate the normal maps and then do
the invert to the Y green channel, in game. UE4 has setting to to this.
xNormal and nDo also have settings if you want to do the invert.

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:03 PM Martin Yara furik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, I have a really basic noob question, but after all these years I've
 realized that I'm not sure what I'm doing lol.

 Years ago, all I was using for normal maps was the NVidia plugin and we
 had to flip the Y axis (check in Invert Y). It was somewhat common
 knowledge back then. And since it was looking good in the DDC and game
 viewer I used those settings.

 Nowadays, I'm using xNormal and nDo, and I don't have to set anything to
 have similar results. But I just noticed that their preferences are in
 X+Y+Z+.

 So, my question is, NVidia's plugin is flipping Y by default so I have to
 re-invert Y?

 I've heard that Unreal engine requires to flip Y, so if I'm using NVidia
 plugin I should uncheck everything and have it by default? and if I'm using
 nDo or xNormal should I invert Y?

 Thanks

 Martin



Re: Question about Normalmap

2015-05-11 Thread Martin
Thanks!

That's what I though, but I was just assuming xNormal info was accurate.

nDo and the NVidia plugin only say invert axis, not positive nor negative, 
just invert from the default settings without telling you what are the default 
settings. Since both have different results, I wasn't sure anymore how a Y 
positive would look like.

Thanks again

Martin
Sent from my iPhone

 On 2015/05/11, at 18:16, Graham Bell bell...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nvidia would do the invert Y because that was how most game engines accepted 
 normal maps. The problem then was that different 3D packages didn't always 
 conform to this. 
 
 What many do now is (depending on what they use, Maya/Max, etc) and to keep 
 maps consistent for the context, is generate the normal maps and then do the 
 invert to the Y green channel, in game. UE4 has setting to to this. xNormal 
 and nDo also have settings if you want to do the invert.
 
 On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:03 PM Martin Yara furik...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, I have a really basic noob question, but after all these years I've 
 realized that I'm not sure what I'm doing lol.
 
 Years ago, all I was using for normal maps was the NVidia plugin and we had 
 to flip the Y axis (check in Invert Y). It was somewhat common knowledge 
 back then. And since it was looking good in the DDC and game viewer I used 
 those settings.
 
 Nowadays, I'm using xNormal and nDo, and I don't have to set anything to 
 have similar results. But I just noticed that their preferences are in 
 X+Y+Z+.
 
 So, my question is, NVidia's plugin is flipping Y by default so I have to 
 re-invert Y?
 
 I've heard that Unreal engine requires to flip Y, so if I'm using NVidia 
 plugin I should uncheck everything and have it by default? and if I'm using 
 nDo or xNormal should I invert Y?
 
 Thanks
 
 Martin


Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

2015-05-11 Thread Jean-Louis Billard
Hi Stephen,

So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok. The second one 
spurts this:

 ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”

Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library (Error code 126: The 
specified module could not be found).  Running REGSVR32.EXE may provide more 
information

libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going on…?


Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the officially 
supported version for Soft2015_SP1?

Thanks for any help.


Jean-Louis

Digital Golem

 On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard jean-lo...@photon3.com 
 mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not installed properly 
 and the log shows these culprits:
 
 Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst
 Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
 
 
 Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was getting a core dump 
 until I ran them.



RE: Friday Flashback #223

2015-05-11 Thread Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Actually for me it was 94. Softimage 3D 2.4 or something like that. It was the 
SGI version in early 94 right before they switched to the Microsoft compiler 
and all hell broke loose.

Prior to that I had been using Cubicomp from 88-94. What a difference a day 
made, the day I started on Soft!

--
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LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
MYMIC Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Davidson
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 8:57 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Friday Flashback #223

LOL...I meant Softimage 3D 1.0 (actually version 2.1, I believe) back in 
1987...prior to XSI 1.0 in 2000

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Softimage 
lp3ds...@gmail.commailto:lp3ds...@gmail.com wrote:
I was 1.0 as well but realistically I was going back and forth between XSI and 
Soft a lot till 1.5!



On 8 May 2015, at 22:42, Stephen Davidson 
magic...@bellsouth.netmailto:magic...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Am I the only one here, left, that started with 1.0?
I think Joey did too, but I'm not sure.


On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Eric Thivierge 
ethivie...@gmail.commailto:ethivie...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah I started on 4.0 / 4.2...  was wondering when Stephen was going to get to 
this release. :)


Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Sven Constable 
sixsi_l...@imagefront.demailto:sixsi_l...@imagefront.de wrote:
especially since it was the first really 'production ready' version, wasn't it? 
Remembering two presentations (I think it was v1.0 (lol) and 3.0) And on the v3 
presentation I thnk their claim was it's now 'production ready'. Well, I don't 
think it was it entirely but with version 4 they definetly got  it.

sven

-Original Message-
From: 
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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
 On Behalf Of Alen
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 5:00 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Friday Flashback #223
ah..my landing year on XSI ship. good times

On 5/8/2015 3:46 PM, Stephen Blair wrote:
 i am 4.
 customization * speed * options * power * thought * imagination *
 integration
 SOFTIMAGE|XSI version 4.0 launch 04.19.2004

 http://wp.me/powV4-3cW





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Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

2015-05-11 Thread Stephen Blair
I had the same error but I ignored it, just to see if Softimage would start
(and it did).

SAS is a set of DisplayCallbacks for OpenGL and DirectX


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Louis Billard jean-lo...@photon3.com
wrote:

 Hi Stephen,

 So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok. The second
 one spurts this:

  ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”

 Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library (Error code 126: The
 specified module could not be found).  Running REGSVR32.EXE may provide
 more information

 libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going on…?


 Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the officially
 supported version for Soft2015_SP1?

 Thanks for any help.


 Jean-Louis

 Digital Golem

 On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard jean-lo...@photon3.com
  wrote:

 Hi all,

 The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not installed
 properly and the log shows these culprits:

 Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst
 Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”



 Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was getting a core
 dump until I ran them.





Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

2015-05-11 Thread Jean-Louis Billard
I would love to ignore it, but alas I still get a core dump when running 
xsibatch!

Looking around I’m finding some people talking about updating OGL drivers, some 
discussing the Xorg.conf file, and yet more mentioning kernel tweaks. It’s 
tricky to guess the best route…

Jean-Louis

Digital Golem



 On 11 May 2015, at 15:56, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I had the same error but I ignored it, just to see if Softimage would start 
 (and it did).
 
 SAS is a set of DisplayCallbacks for OpenGL and DirectX
 
 
 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Louis Billard jean-lo...@photon3.com 
 mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com wrote:
 Hi Stephen,
 
 So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok. The second one 
 spurts this:
 
  ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
 
 Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library (Error code 126: The 
 specified module could not be found).  Running REGSVR32.EXE may provide more 
 information
 
 libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going on…?
 
 
 Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the officially 
 supported version for Soft2015_SP1?
 
 Thanks for any help.
 
 
 Jean-Louis
 
 Digital Golem
 
 On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com 
 mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard jean-lo...@photon3.com 
 mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not installed properly 
 and the log shows these culprits:
 
 Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst
 Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
 
 
 Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was getting a core 
 dump until I ran them.
 
 



Re: Friday Flashback #223

2015-05-11 Thread phil harbath
When I got on board (3.5) I think it was like 10,000 and 5,000 with 3dsmax 
competive upgrade (plus maintenance).


-Original Message- 
From: Leendert A. Hartog

Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 1:48 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Friday Flashback #223

According to this post over at xsisupport -
http://xsisupport.com/2014/02/21/friday-flashback-160

Softimage XSI 1.0
Essentials: $7,995
Advanced: $11,995

Greetz
Leendert


--

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Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com 



RE: Friday Flashback #223

2015-05-11 Thread Sven Constable
What was the price of it?

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leendert A. Hartog
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 5:17 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Friday Flashback #223

Ah, memory lane...
Started with XSI 4.2 Foundation myself
although I distinctly recall reading the XSI review in the very first issue of 
3D World and thinking I would never be able to afford such a beast.
;)

Greetz
Leendert

-- 

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Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com




Re: Friday Flashback #223

2015-05-11 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

According to this post over at xsisupport -
http://xsisupport.com/2014/02/21/friday-flashback-160

Softimage XSI 1.0
Essentials: $7,995
Advanced: $11,995

Greetz
Leendert


--

Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue
Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com



Re: Centos6.6 install 2015SP1

2015-05-11 Thread Thomas Volkmann
What error are you getting on startup/xsibatch? There has been an issue with a
wrongly formatted /etc/hosts file that caused segmentation faults...just a shot
in the dark
 

 Jean-Louis Billard jean-lo...@photon3.com hat am 11. Mai 2015 um 16:10
 geschrieben:
 
  I would love to ignore it, but alas I still get a core dump when running
 xsibatch!
   
  Looking around I’m finding some people talking about updating OGL drivers,
 some discussing the Xorg.conf file, and yet more mentioning kernel tweaks.
 It’s tricky to guess the best route…
   
  Jean-Louis
   
  Digital Golem
   
   
 
 
 On 11 May 2015, at 15:56, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com
mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com  wrote:
  
   I had the same error but I ignored it, just to see if Softimage would
  start (and it did).

   SAS is a set of DisplayCallbacks for OpenGL and DirectX

  
   On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jean-Louis Billard
  jean-lo...@photon3.com mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com  wrote:
   Hi Stephen,
   
  So I tried, but for some reason only the first line runs ok. The
   second one spurts this:
   
   ./Application/bin/cmdreg -f
   Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”
   
  Loading ../Plugins/libSAS.so:  Unable to load library (Error code
   126: The specified module could not be found).  Running REGSVR32.EXE may
   provide more information
   
  libSAS.so is present in /Plugins, so I’m not sure what’s going on…?
   
   
  Maybe I should roll back to Centos 6.2, which seems to be the
   officially supported version for Soft2015_SP1?
   
  Thanks for any help.
   
   
  Jean-Louis
   
  Digital Golem
   
   
 On 7 May 2015, at 22:11, Stephen Blair
  stephenrbl...@gmail.com
  mailto:stephenrbl...@gmail.com  wrote:



   On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jean-Louis Billard
jean-lo...@photon3.com mailto:jean-lo...@photon3.com  wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  The installer for 2015SP1 tells me that Softimage was not
 installed properly and the log shows these culprits:
 
  Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f
 Application/bin/XSICOMDLLs.lst
  Error: Application/bin/cmdreg -f
 Application/Plugins/PLUGINSCOMDLLs.lst”


   Try running those commands yourself. On CentOS 6.5, I was
getting a core dump until I ran them.