Re: Maya Price

2020-05-09 Thread J R Sanchez 
Honestly you are not getting much. There is a Maya Indie as well.

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On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 6:05 PM phil harbath 
wrote:

>   My one question was not sarcastic, what do you get for the trading in a
> permanent license for subscription (the price doubles). I can still
> maintain my Maya/Softimage license for 1 more year then it has to be
> converted to subscription however they have discontinued the Entertainment
> suite.   I am going to get Houdini Indie but that is more for it’s Ice-like
> tools, I am still rather tied to Softimage character stuff.  I was planning
> to someday move over to Maya for that sort of thing however at 1600 usd/
> per year,  I think I try to figure something else out.
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Re: Is there a mail list for Ex or Current XSI peeps who use Houdini ?

2020-05-09 Thread J R Sanchez 
Thanks for having my back Olivier. I just sent a request. They had actually
blocked me before for some weird reason.   I really appreciate this.
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On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 5:40 PM Olivier Jeannel 
wrote:

> Ok so sebastian should unblock you, but you'll have to subscribe again.
>
> Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 23:32, Olivier Jeannel  a
> écrit :
>
>> Sent a msg to the administrator ;)
>>
>> Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 23:28, Olivier Jeannel  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Uuuh weird to be blocked for that.
>>> I myself posted meme once and never got annoyed.
>>>
>>> Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 23:20, J R Sanchez  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 I was on a facebook Houdini artists group and got kicked out all of a
 sudden for posting "How do you Uninstall anxiety" meme as a joke. I was
 blocked. So insane. Are there any other Groups / Mailing Lists etc
 specifically for Houdini? ( that aren't ridiculous like the Houdini artists
 face books group)

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Re: Maya Price

2020-05-09 Thread phil harbath 
  My one question was not sarcastic, what do you get for the trading in a 
permanent license for subscription (the price doubles). I can still maintain my 
Maya/Softimage license for 1 more year then it has to be converted to 
subscription however they have discontinued the Entertainment suite.   I am 
going to get Houdini Indie but that is more for it’s Ice-like tools, I am still 
rather tied to Softimage character stuff.  I was planning to someday move over 
to Maya for that sort of thing however at 1600 usd/ per year,  I think I try to 
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Re: Is there a mail list for Ex or Current XSI peeps who use Houdini ?

2020-05-09 Thread Olivier Jeannel 
Ok so sebastian should unblock you, but you'll have to subscribe again.

Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 23:32, Olivier Jeannel  a
écrit :

> Sent a msg to the administrator ;)
>
> Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 23:28, Olivier Jeannel  a
> écrit :
>
>> Uuuh weird to be blocked for that.
>> I myself posted meme once and never got annoyed.
>>
>> Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 23:20, J R Sanchez  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> I was on a facebook Houdini artists group and got kicked out all of a
>>> sudden for posting "How do you Uninstall anxiety" meme as a joke. I was
>>> blocked. So insane. Are there any other Groups / Mailing Lists etc
>>> specifically for Houdini? ( that aren't ridiculous like the Houdini artists
>>> face books group)
>>>
>>> https://u9432639.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=A5uD99yDGgJFqsHo0L78rjo3fW-2BI05z8hPddj-2BYSrjut8V8Kr3SyUl8pLj-2FCGT-2FDk0UrpzXAK69iEJrgCwoTDS0qgcpmWI-2FuJ79jVYaio-2BLsYsmeoM-2FgLSyxFARBEEI3tSi0lLFq-2BPE9QMvU-2FfRO4rG7m024ucQzFqwz-2BsRmPMdQaVXtIhmF5X6Xx29AAmfellv9XwhRL9lEA3eMFTKkJp7HtcS5X-2BiF8tSiVmXYbKHBxdyqtrGLgMXLzhA-2Byp6mhm2DS3MxAxlungep0PMrcle-2BOJrM0pGuI-2FPJEGLmJ38xez9bTWHhWS6geuu5llJabrwrSRhIR6ybF7mFU2V1lRVS1jlGMasTHIGMa3nZ6A9m-2FxdrYhhgM3Tk219vjRmqiU_m_x9fWPgxQbfi69QJnHJqUKZsAJHrwlN1lgOIh62WX2fT9IK3tss3P1lerFSlACoLeE6yRWjdjT-2BMGwLIWaBemdHiFjTZncMC6907OLJoirnWIebK5xGDEJwa-2FhLWScDL2PYAsVD28AE63-2F4nHC8m8dfo8o4l3AfJw8w7p0uK36nPt5CpiM2m8-2FpMjibgBMXj6PZudb2dxDVcVDZbI7wmjRhvTX1lFtrZlb5pID4qUbc3StcSIDd6kxaxr-2FU3CUux6
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Re: Is there a mail list for Ex or Current XSI peeps who use Houdini ?

2020-05-09 Thread Olivier Jeannel 
Sent a msg to the administrator ;)

Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 23:28, Olivier Jeannel  a
écrit :

> Uuuh weird to be blocked for that.
> I myself posted meme once and never got annoyed.
>
> Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 23:20, J R Sanchez  a
> écrit :
>
>> I was on a facebook Houdini artists group and got kicked out all of a
>> sudden for posting "How do you Uninstall anxiety" meme as a joke. I was
>> blocked. So insane. Are there any other Groups / Mailing Lists etc
>> specifically for Houdini? ( that aren't ridiculous like the Houdini artists
>> face books group)
>>
>> https://u9432639.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=A5uD99yDGgJFqsHo0L78rjo3fW-2BI05z8hPddj-2BYSrjut8V8Kr3SyUl8pLj-2FCGT-2FDk0UrpzXAK69iEJrgCwoTDS0qgcpmWI-2FuJ79jVYaio-2BLsYsmeoM-2FgLSyxFARBEEI3tSi0lLFq-2BPE9QMvU-2FfRO4rG7m024ucQzFqwz-2BsRmPMdQaVXtIhmF5X6Xx29AAmfellv9XwhRL9lEA3eMFTKkJp7HtcS5X-2BiF8tSiVmXYbKHBxdyqtrGLgMXLzhA-2Byp6mBpeNUhq-2FDoiImGrkVeUhaeVQ2p0HGr-2B6XURL1py5rZ-2FA6GjQf7-2FbcOhwCuuYmuKT6Ab8-2BLZ1z7gpSmr5-2F5oIuYD8SRaZcvtKJ0XHw-2BI-2BCx8a9aGPDGpsnBxfrxuQHYCqPHZ-_x9fWPgxQbfi69QJnHJqUKZsAJHrwlN1lgOIh62WX2fQFcO59E56M2PWhRaq857OcjUBnsYGCCQd0D0Eo3tfQ6ZfCYKIv5jm7WBmaphnNMPfxpK3ZOt-2FGX3jqOFnUz2E1hNOldumTrL4gJDY1grlJjyDeGgkPdtIMt7veVHAlb0nN6oqHUpS-2B4YM-2FMQQ9FqFcNrtzZXrMW-2BHv2VuApjW3u-2BR7wyifBqTafj67mVXSchQ10l7GVZp10GKRqKn8Z1yS
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Re: Is there a mail list for Ex or Current XSI peeps who use Houdini ?

2020-05-09 Thread Olivier Jeannel 
Uuuh weird to be blocked for that.
I myself posted meme once and never got annoyed.

Le sam. 9 mai 2020 à 23:20, J R Sanchez  a écrit :

> I was on a facebook Houdini artists group and got kicked out all of a
> sudden for posting "How do you Uninstall anxiety" meme as a joke. I was
> blocked. So insane. Are there any other Groups / Mailing Lists etc
> specifically for Houdini? ( that aren't ridiculous like the Houdini artists
> face books group)
>
> https://u9432639.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=A5uD99yDGgJFqsHo0L78rjo3fW-2BI05z8hPddj-2BYSrjut8V8Kr3SyUl8pLj-2FCGT-2FDk0UrpzXAK69iEJrgCwoTDS0qgcpmWI-2FuJ79jVYaio-2BLsYsmeoM-2FgLSyxFARBEEI3tSi0lLFq-2BPE9QMvU-2FfRO4rG7m024ucQzFqwz-2BsRmPMdQaVXtIhmF5X6Xx29AAmfellv9XwhRL9lEA3eMFTKkJp7HtcS5X-2BiF8tSiVmXYbKHBxdyqtrGLgMXLzhA-2Byp6m1XTHVF-2BFZ-2FLHjGtdZJHIY-2FlEzq-2Bxg9s0kmrQTmF3gKnArpuoK97-2FmB0OiSFBp-2F7ANz7oMHCoeliY40fVaZ-2Bcm5guTz4iitTCIkd5T3ikkGhDrwmKl-2Fn0so-2FIGn5DW9Nv76ZQ_x9fWPgxQbfi69QJnHJqUKZsAJHrwlN1lgOIh62WX2fTA3ihdjj9b3bwv2wpMDe2qSXSRwMOEA1M37G63dRgc6Lrh5jcxwXW3lXsbuonjF9uy-2FCcUchoOcqqZJ7lk8klKODWOxWC7lUjGiTtrFeLVd0VOIPRbpVmRGa7V86xaQZJb8I1vxH5XfHnayDxYxuirQ-2BQ6NsgsgUHMsS0cx4wt3UNELlFQEoCH12-2B6Idu7agzrNX2UQdu3ie7qDXZaicm0
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Is there a mail list for Ex or Current XSI peeps who use Houdini ?

2020-05-09 Thread J R Sanchez 
I was on a facebook Houdini artists group and got kicked out all of a
sudden for posting "How do you Uninstall anxiety" meme as a joke. I was
blocked. So insane. Are there any other Groups / Mailing Lists etc
specifically for Houdini? ( that aren't ridiculous like the Houdini artists
face books group)

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Re: Maya Price

2020-05-09 Thread J R Sanchez 
Houdini Indie is pretty reasonable. I just signed up for 2 year sub for
about  $350 or so.
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On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 6:26 AM Jordi Bares  wrote:

> Indeed, let alone Blender who right now has also exploded in capabilities…
> just look at the viewport, whole cow!!
>
> jb
>
>
> On 8 May 2020, at 10:35, Jonathan Moore  wrote:
>
> This only makes the annual subscription price of C4D with Redshift all the
> ore compelling. And obviously Houdini is a strong option but the seat cost
> with maintenance is more far more than C4D. $5k purchase, $2.5k yearly
> maintenance for Houdini compared to $82 per month for C4D. And C4D has gone
> through a period of strong innovation over the last 3/4 years, it's far
> more than the mograph only toolset it once was. You'd need to factor in a
> subscription to X-Particles too but it's still a way lower combined cost
> than Maya/Houdini.
>
> On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 02:43, phil harbath 
> wrote:
>
>> I had been renewing my maintenance for Maya/Softimage and Entertainment
>> Suite/Softimage for last several years and the price, while increasing
>> was
>> reasonable.  Now they want me to trade those in for non-network versions
>> and
>> no Entertainment suite (just Maya), for almost 2x the price to rent each
>> year,  I don't get it where's the benefit?  It does seem kind of crazy
>> how
>> quickly things went through the roof price-wise.
>>
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Re: Benchmark scene?

2020-05-09 Thread Tenshi 
in softimage?

On Sat, May 9, 2020, 13:32 David Saber  wrote:

> What's the best scene for testing render time? The natural history
> museum scene? Is there a Houdini version?
>
> Thanks
>
> David
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Benchmark scene?

2020-05-09 Thread David Saber 
What's the best scene for testing render time? The natural history 
museum scene? Is there a Houdini version?

Thanks

David

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