Re: ADSK going Subscription only?
Subscription (e.g. updates and bugfixes) isn´t bad in itself, what worries me is the stealing away from providing support for a specific release to forcing the client into a subscription model that has nothing to do with a specific release but instead has the potential to be re-labeled as the equivalent to subscribing to a service. You don´t own a specific software, you pay for the service of being granted access to using a range of software. Or more simply put for comparison, you don´t get to marry your very own special wife, you are expected to pay just to spend time with a woman... Cat in a bag. Very nice model for the vendor not so nice for the client. Cheers, tim On 03.10.2014 00:08, Matt Lind wrote: This has been discussed quite for a while, so it should be news. The one piece of information in the article that is not entirely true is the assumption customers stay on older versions of software only because they can. Reality is many stay on older versions because productions with longer timelines need to freeze on a version to ensure no regressions creep into the pipeline during the critical part of the schedule. R+D in production is at a premium and they cannot be spending oodles of time fixing the same stuff again and again. Many other studios have no R+D at all, they’re on thinner ice with thin profit margins and breakneck schedules just to keep the doors open. As the saying goes, “In the heat of battle, the best weapon is a familiar one”. Another reason which applies in general – Autodesk really hasn’t given any incentive to upgrade as the feature improvements have been fairly minimal but problems have been all too frequent. Why would a customer invest money to upgrade a product which makes life more difficult? Matt *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *pedro santos *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:55 PM *To:* Softimage Mailing List *Subject:* ADSK going Subscription only? Solid Info? o_O http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/10/autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years/?utm_source=feedlyutm_reader=feedlyutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years Cheers -- http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/animatics/probiner-sig.gif Pedro Alpiarça dos Santos Animator 3DModeler Illustrator http://probiner.x10.mx/
Re: ADSK going Subscription only?
To be implemented over the next 2 years... well i guess we now know when Bifrost will be completed :P On 3 October 2014 08:52, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Subscription (e.g. updates and bugfixes) isn´t bad in itself, what worries me is the stealing away from providing support for a specific release to forcing the client into a subscription model that has nothing to do with a specific release but instead has the potential to be re-labeled as the equivalent to subscribing to a service. You don´t own a specific software, you pay for the service of being granted access to using a range of software. Or more simply put for comparison, you don´t get to marry your very own special wife, you are expected to pay just to spend time with a woman... Cat in a bag. Very nice model for the vendor not so nice for the client. Cheers, tim On 03.10.2014 00:08, Matt Lind wrote: This has been discussed quite for a while, so it should be news. The one piece of information in the article that is not entirely true is the assumption customers stay on older versions of software only because they can. Reality is many stay on older versions because productions with longer timelines need to freeze on a version to ensure no regressions creep into the pipeline during the critical part of the schedule. R+D in production is at a premium and they cannot be spending oodles of time fixing the same stuff again and again. Many other studios have no R+D at all, they’re on thinner ice with thin profit margins and breakneck schedules just to keep the doors open. As the saying goes, “In the heat of battle, the best weapon is a familiar one”. Another reason which applies in general – Autodesk really hasn’t given any incentive to upgrade as the feature improvements have been fairly minimal but problems have been all too frequent. Why would a customer invest money to upgrade a product which makes life more difficult? Matt *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@ listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *pedro santos *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:55 PM *To:* Softimage Mailing List *Subject:* ADSK going Subscription only? Solid Info? o_O http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/10/autodesk-plans-to-go- subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years/?utm_source= feedlyutm_reader=feedlyutm_medium=rssutm_campaign= autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years Cheers -- http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/animatics/probiner-sig.gif Pedro Alpiarça dos Santos Animator 3DModeler Illustrator http://probiner.x10.mx/
Re: Spam:Re: ADSK going Subscription only?
By that definition Adobe and Autodesk are effectively digital Pimps. Charming On 2014/10/03, 9:52 AM, Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de wrote: Subscription (e.g. updates and bugfixes) isn´t bad in itself, what worries me is the stealing away from providing support for a specific release to forcing the client into a subscription model that has nothing to do with a specific release but instead has the potential to be re-labeled as the equivalent to subscribing to a service. You don´t own a specific software, you pay for the service of being granted access to using a range of software. Or more simply put for comparison, you don´t get to marry your very own special wife, you are expected to pay just to spend time with a woman... Cat in a bag. Very nice model for the vendor not so nice for the client. Cheers, tim On 03.10.2014 00:08, Matt Lind wrote: This has been discussed quite for a while, so it should be news. The one piece of information in the article that is not entirely true is the assumption customers stay on older versions of software only because they can. Reality is many stay on older versions because productions with longer timelines need to freeze on a version to ensure no regressions creep into the pipeline during the critical part of the schedule. R+D in production is at a premium and they cannot be spending oodles of time fixing the same stuff again and again. Many other studios have no R+D at all, they¹re on thinner ice with thin profit margins and breakneck schedules just to keep the doors open. As the saying goes, ³In the heat of battle, the best weapon is a familiar one². Another reason which applies in general Autodesk really hasn¹t given any incentive to upgrade as the feature improvements have been fairly minimal but problems have been all too frequent. Why would a customer invest money to upgrade a product which makes life more difficult? Matt *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *pedro santos *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:55 PM *To:* Softimage Mailing List *Subject:* ADSK going Subscription only? Solid Info? o_O http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/10/autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only -over-next-one-to-two-years/?utm_source=feedlyutm_reader=feedlyutm_medi um=rssutm_campaign=autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one- to-two-years Cheers -- - - -- http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/animatics/probiner-sig.gif Pedro Alpiarça dos Santos Animator 3DModeler Illustrator http://probiner.x10.mx/ table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
ADSK going Subscription only?
Solid Info? o_O http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/10/autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years/?utm_source=feedlyutm_reader=feedlyutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years Cheers -- *--[image: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/animatics/probiner-sig.gif]Pedro Alpiarça dos Santos Animator 3DModeler Illustrator http://probiner.x10.mx/ http://probiner.x10.mx/*
RE: ADSK going Subscription only?
This has been discussed quite for a while, so it should be news. The one piece of information in the article that is not entirely true is the assumption customers stay on older versions of software only because they can. Reality is many stay on older versions because productions with longer timelines need to freeze on a version to ensure no regressions creep into the pipeline during the critical part of the schedule. R+D in production is at a premium and they cannot be spending oodles of time fixing the same stuff again and again. Many other studios have no R+D at all, they’re on thinner ice with thin profit margins and breakneck schedules just to keep the doors open. As the saying goes, “In the heat of battle, the best weapon is a familiar one”. Another reason which applies in general – Autodesk really hasn’t given any incentive to upgrade as the feature improvements have been fairly minimal but problems have been all too frequent. Why would a customer invest money to upgrade a product which makes life more difficult? Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of pedro santos Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:55 PM To: Softimage Mailing List Subject: ADSK going Subscription only? Solid Info? o_O http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/10/autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years/?utm_source=feedlyutm_reader=feedlyutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years Cheers -- [http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/animatics/probiner-sig.gif] Pedro Alpiarça dos Santos Animator 3DModeler Illustrator http://probiner.x10.mx/
RE: ADSK going Subscription only?
Edit: so it should not be news. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 3:09 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: ADSK going Subscription only? This has been discussed quite for a while, so it should be news. The one piece of information in the article that is not entirely true is the assumption customers stay on older versions of software only because they can. Reality is many stay on older versions because productions with longer timelines need to freeze on a version to ensure no regressions creep into the pipeline during the critical part of the schedule. R+D in production is at a premium and they cannot be spending oodles of time fixing the same stuff again and again. Many other studios have no R+D at all, they’re on thinner ice with thin profit margins and breakneck schedules just to keep the doors open. As the saying goes, “In the heat of battle, the best weapon is a familiar one”. Another reason which applies in general – Autodesk really hasn’t given any incentive to upgrade as the feature improvements have been fairly minimal but problems have been all too frequent. Why would a customer invest money to upgrade a product which makes life more difficult? Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of pedro santos Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:55 PM To: Softimage Mailing List Subject: ADSK going Subscription only? Solid Info? o_O http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/10/autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years/?utm_source=feedlyutm_reader=feedlyutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years Cheers -- [http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/animatics/probiner-sig.gif] Pedro Alpiarça dos Santos Animator 3DModeler Illustrator http://probiner.x10.mx/
Re: ADSK going Subscription only?
so you HAVE to stay current whether you can use it or not, or whether they update it much or not. From: Matt Lind Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:14 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: ADSK going Subscription only? Edit: so it should not be news. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 3:09 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: ADSK going Subscription only? This has been discussed quite for a while, so it should be news. The one piece of information in the article that is not entirely true is the assumption customers stay on older versions of software only because they can. Reality is many stay on older versions because productions with longer timelines need to freeze on a version to ensure no regressions creep into the pipeline during the critical part of the schedule. R+D in production is at a premium and they cannot be spending oodles of time fixing the same stuff again and again. Many other studios have no R+D at all, they’re on thinner ice with thin profit margins and breakneck schedules just to keep the doors open. As the saying goes, “In the heat of battle, the best weapon is a familiar one”. Another reason which applies in general – Autodesk really hasn’t given any incentive to upgrade as the feature improvements have been fairly minimal but problems have been all too frequent. Why would a customer invest money to upgrade a product which makes life more difficult? Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of pedro santos Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:55 PM To: Softimage Mailing List Subject: ADSK going Subscription only? Solid Info? o_O http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/10/autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years/?utm_source=feedlyutm_reader=feedlyutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years Cheers -- Pedro Alpiarça dos Santos Animator 3DModeler Illustrator http://probiner.x10.mx/
Re: ADSK going Subscription only?
future is bright.. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:22 AM, phil harbath phil.harb...@jamination.com wrote: so you HAVE to stay current whether you can use it or not, or whether they update it much or not. *From:* Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:14 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: ADSK going Subscription only? Edit: so it should *not* be news. *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Lind *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 3:09 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: ADSK going Subscription only? This has been discussed quite for a while, so it should be news. The one piece of information in the article that is not entirely true is the assumption customers stay on older versions of software only because they can. Reality is many stay on older versions because productions with longer timelines need to freeze on a version to ensure no regressions creep into the pipeline during the critical part of the schedule. R+D in production is at a premium and they cannot be spending oodles of time fixing the same stuff again and again. Many other studios have no R+D at all, they’re on thinner ice with thin profit margins and breakneck schedules just to keep the doors open. As the saying goes, “In the heat of battle, the best weapon is a familiar one”. Another reason which applies in general – Autodesk really hasn’t given any incentive to upgrade as the feature improvements have been fairly minimal but problems have been all too frequent. Why would a customer invest money to upgrade a product which makes life more difficult? Matt *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *pedro santos *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:55 PM *To:* Softimage Mailing List *Subject:* ADSK going Subscription only? Solid Info? o_O http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/10/autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years/?utm_source=feedlyutm_reader=feedlyutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=autodesk-plans-to-go-subscription-only-over-next-one-to-two-years Cheers -- -- [image: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/animatics/probiner-sig.gif] Pedro Alpiarça dos Santos Animator 3DModeler Illustrator http://probiner.x10.mx/
Re: ADSK going Subscription only?
Autodesk is currently doing a big campaign on Twitter with promoted tweets about renting options for Maya and 3dsmax -- -- Martin Contel Square Enix (Visual Works)
Re: ADSK going Subscription only?
This illustrates a far more worrying paradigm, Autodesk no longer want to be associated with the furthering of the industry, they are slowing everything down, they want to fix their products in place while still maintaining maximum revenue. In other words, they are retiring the industry, and expect their client base to pay for their pension. On 2 October 2014 23:47, Martin Contel martin3d...@gmail.com wrote: Autodesk is currently doing a big campaign on Twitter with promoted tweets about renting options for Maya and 3dsmax -- -- Martin Contel Square Enix (Visual Works)
Re: ADSK going Subscription only?
future is bright.. hahaha this made my day already! And I barely just arrived :)
