Re: Ensuing Chaos
Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational establishments don't teach softimage. I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to come but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have. Alastair Hearsum Head of 3d GLASSWORKS 33/34 Great Pulteney Street London W1F 9NP +44 (0)20 7434 1182 glassworks.co.uk http://www.glassworks.co.uk/ Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office 25 Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729) Please consider the environment before you print this email. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and attachments are strictly privileged, private and confidential and are intended solely for the stated recipient(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this transmission is received in error please kindly return it to the sender and delete this message from your system. On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com mailto:malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com mailto:hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Ensuing Chaos
Does anyone know on what website will any announcement be made, Area or autodesk.com? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alastair Hearsum hear...@glassworks.co.ukwrote: Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational establishments don't teach softimage. I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to come but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have. Alastair Hearsum Head of 3d [image: GLASSWORKS] 33/34 Great Pulteney Street London W1F 9NP +44 (0)20 7434 1182 glassworks.co.uk http://www.glassworks.co.uk/ Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office 25 Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729) Please consider the environment before you print this email. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and attachments are strictly privileged, private and confidential and are intended solely for the stated recipient(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this transmission is received in error please kindly return it to the sender and delete this message from your system. On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Ensuing Chaos
As is now pretty much standard, a reseller will post it first. Maybe like this: http://www.jigsaw24.com/news/news/11949-autodesk-softimages-retirement-what-you-need-to-know/ On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, nick name creator3dstu...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know on what website will any announcement be made, Area or autodesk.com? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alastair Hearsum hear...@glassworks.co.uk wrote: Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational establishments don't teach softimage. I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to come but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have. Alastair Hearsum Head of 3d [image: GLASSWORKS] 33/34 Great Pulteney Street London W1F 9NP +44 (0)20 7434 1182 glassworks.co.uk http://www.glassworks.co.uk/ Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office 25 Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729) Please consider the environment before you print this email. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and attachments are strictly privileged, private and confidential and are intended solely for the stated recipient(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this transmission is received in error please kindly return it to the sender and delete this message from your system. On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Ensuing Chaos
so here is also official FUCK YOU autodesk and good bye. lying to customers for the past couple years, can't call it anything else but that. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.comwrote: As is now pretty much standard, a reseller will post it first. Maybe like this: http://www.jigsaw24.com/news/news/11949-autodesk-softimages-retirement-what-you-need-to-know/ On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, nick name creator3dstu...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone know on what website will any announcement be made, Area or autodesk.com? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alastair Hearsum hear...@glassworks.co.uk wrote: Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational establishments don't teach softimage. I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to come but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have. Alastair Hearsum Head of 3d [image: GLASSWORKS] 33/34 Great Pulteney Street London W1F 9NP +44 (0)20 7434 1182 glassworks.co.uk http://www.glassworks.co.uk/ Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office 25 Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729) Please consider the environment before you print this email. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and attachments are strictly privileged, private and confidential and are intended solely for the stated recipient(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this transmission is received in error please kindly return it to the sender and delete this message from your system. On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Ensuing Chaos
Is this a hoax? Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com On 4 Mar 2014, at 11:45, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote: As is now pretty much standard, a reseller will post it first. Maybe like this: http://www.jigsaw24.com/news/news/11949-autodesk-softimages-retirement-what-you-need-to-know/ On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, nick name creator3dstu...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know on what website will any announcement be made, Area or autodesk.com? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alastair Hearsum hear...@glassworks.co.uk wrote: Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational establishments don't teach softimage. I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to come but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have. Alastair Hearsum Head of 3d 33/34 Great Pulteney Street London W1F 9NP +44 (0)20 7434 1182 glassworks.co.uk Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office 25 Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729) Please consider the environment before you print this email. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and attachments are strictly privileged, private and confidential and are intended solely for the stated recipient(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this transmission is received in error please kindly return it to the sender and delete this message from your system. On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Ensuing Chaos
hoax was when they bough it at the first place. I still remember chill I've got down my spine the moment I saw that they bought it.. it was fully proven to be correct predicament On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com wrote: Is this a hoax? Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com On 4 Mar 2014, at 11:45, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.com wrote: As is now pretty much standard, a reseller will post it first. Maybe like this: http://www.jigsaw24.com/news/news/11949-autodesk-softimages-retirement-what-you-need-to-know/ On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, nick name creator3dstu...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone know on what website will any announcement be made, Area or autodesk.com? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alastair Hearsum hear...@glassworks.co.uk wrote: Love the software and its nice light grey interface. The problem we would have as a company is freelancers. We gear up and down depending on the project and if its difficult to find freelancers, because they're a dwindling resource, then that's a problem. The major educational establishments don't teach softimage. I'd personally be happy trundling along with Soft for a few years to come but it probably needs to be one part of the arsenal we have. Alastair Hearsum Head of 3d [image: GLASSWORKS] 33/34 Great Pulteney Street London W1F 9NP +44 (0)20 7434 1182 glassworks.co.uk http://www.glassworks.co.uk/ Glassworks Terms and Conditions of Sale can be found at glassworks.co.uk (Company registered in England with number 04759979. Registered office 25 Harley Street, London, W1G 9BR. VAT registration number: 86729) Please consider the environment before you print this email. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and attachments are strictly privileged, private and confidential and are intended solely for the stated recipient(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this transmission is received in error please kindly return it to the sender and delete this message from your system. On 03/03/2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez wrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Ensuing Chaos
Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/https://vimeo.com/user4174293http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd.If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone.Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Ensuing Chaos
Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Ensuing Chaos
+1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Ensuing Chaos
+ 1, they are a right bunch of cowboys. On 3 March 2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
Re: Ensuing Chaos
True, bad mouthing can soft kill things that otherwise would hold on. On the other hand shows more lack of confidence in ADSK than in Softimage. Cheers On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: + 1, they are a right bunch of cowboys. On 3 March 2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. -- [img]http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/animatics/avatar_1.gif[/img]
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So when is this rumor supposed to become news if ever? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:29 AM, pedro santos probi...@gmail.com wrote: True, bad mouthing can soft kill things that otherwise would hold on. On the other hand shows more lack of confidence in ADSK than in Softimage. Cheers On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: + 1, they are a right bunch of cowboys. On 3 March 2014 16:35, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. -- [img]http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s202/animatics/avatar_1.gif[/img]
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Well, not being able to scale up by buying more seats if the need was ever to arise is a pretty major issue with companies killing software. For individuals it's one thing, you can ride an existing license like Soft's for years, especially when you consider how little drastic innovation we've seen in mainstream apps in quite a while. If you scale between dozens and hundreds, or even dozen to a score, it's a deal breaker and it has consequences. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
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Hey Raff Does Animal Logic have the weight to ask Autodesk for a site license? As a parting gift... Steven On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, not being able to scale up by buying more seats if the need was ever to arise is a pretty major issue with companies killing software. For individuals it's one thing, you can ride an existing license like Soft's for years, especially when you consider how little drastic innovation we've seen in mainstream apps in quite a while. If you scale between dozens and hundreds, or even dozen to a score, it's a deal breaker and it has consequences. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.comwrote: +1 And I will add. Stop running, it will take years for other softwares including Maya to be as efficient and slim as Softimage. As long as your able to still work with Softimage and deliver the job. Who cares what are you working with. As I said before I never heard of a client saying Hey you work sucks because it is not done in Maya. Au contraire. What I've heard from my clients is Good job! Everything went smooth and peachy. So... again. I see no reason to start fleeing like a headless chicken. 2014-03-03 10:05 GMT-06:00 Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com: Agree a 100% On Monday, March 3, 2014, Andi Farhall hack...@outlook.com wrote: Chaos with the soft community would be exactly what AD want. Divide and rule through fear. Bugger that for a game of soldiers out of sheer bloody mindedness to not let AD have it all their own way. To buy a pro tool like softimage purely to kill it a couple of years later is an act of entirely unethical destruction. Roofs are kept over heads and kids fed on the back of software that come with the pro label and price. People, us, will continue to be able to service our clients using soft for a number of years to come but it would be prudent to learn something new along the way. Maya with it's wide user base and antiquated work flow and elderly architecture, Houdini might have a steep learning curve but it seems to be a more up to date suggestion. Plus AD won't get your cash. Revenge is best served cold for a reason A ... http://www.hackneyeffects.com/ https://vimeo.com/user4174293 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andi-farhall/b/496/b21 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_hackney/ http://spylon.tumblr.com/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Hackney Effects Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
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If I knew or if we were to I probably couldn't say it publicly within my NDA. But honestly speaking? I just don't know, nor have i given it much consideration. Personally, and this is me, nothing to do with AL, I'm so tired of the whole commercial software thing since AD established absolute dominance I've stopped caring much for any of them a while ago. IMO there's this common misconception AD might give a fraction of a fast moving orbital fuck about any of their Western ME clients when it comes to Soft, but in my experience and that of my connections that's simply not true to any relevant extent. Sure, you might get in with some devs or PMs, get some early access, previews, participate in some programs, and have a friendly relationship and so on, but ultimately when it comes to sales or the board nobody has the dullest of hooks in there. This is not to say the people in there, the real people, are anything short of fantastic (some devs, leads and PMs are actually really nice, involved and friendly), at least some of them, but the overall mechanism is just not conducive any more to clients like the ones I work for to be truly catered for, not to the extent smaller firms do. I don't even hate Autodesk for it to be honest, it's a corp, it obeys rules that paint us out of the picture. It'd be like getting mad at gravity the next time I fall on my ass :p If anybody has any swing with AD whatsoever when it comes to Soft it could only be a Japanese client, or some of them associating (unlikely to happen culturally). I can't think of anybody outside of Japan with a triple digit number of seats under maintenance. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Raff Does Animal Logic have the weight to ask Autodesk for a site license? As a parting gift... Steven
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So, paraphrasing some famous movie we are proper fucked starting tomorrow? Artur Woźniak https://vimeo.com/83506156 https://vimeo.com/user3560131/videos 2014-03-04 2:45 GMT+01:00 Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com: If I knew or if we were to I probably couldn't say it publicly within my NDA. But honestly speaking? I just don't know, nor have i given it much consideration. Personally, and this is me, nothing to do with AL, I'm so tired of the whole commercial software thing since AD established absolute dominance I've stopped caring much for any of them a while ago. IMO there's this common misconception AD might give a fraction of a fast moving orbital fuck about any of their Western ME clients when it comes to Soft, but in my experience and that of my connections that's simply not true to any relevant extent. Sure, you might get in with some devs or PMs, get some early access, previews, participate in some programs, and have a friendly relationship and so on, but ultimately when it comes to sales or the board nobody has the dullest of hooks in there. This is not to say the people in there, the real people, are anything short of fantastic (some devs, leads and PMs are actually really nice, involved and friendly), at least some of them, but the overall mechanism is just not conducive any more to clients like the ones I work for to be truly catered for, not to the extent smaller firms do. I don't even hate Autodesk for it to be honest, it's a corp, it obeys rules that paint us out of the picture. It'd be like getting mad at gravity the next time I fall on my ass :p If anybody has any swing with AD whatsoever when it comes to Soft it could only be a Japanese client, or some of them associating (unlikely to happen culturally). I can't think of anybody outside of Japan with a triple digit number of seats under maintenance. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Raff Does Animal Logic have the weight to ask Autodesk for a site license? As a parting gift... Steven
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So they say, but I'm still hoping we won't be. For me maybe it's the 1st phase - denial, I don't know. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Artur Woźniak artur.w...@gmail.com wrote: So, paraphrasing some famous movie we are proper fucked starting tomorrow? Artur Woźniak https://vimeo.com/83506156 https://vimeo.com/user3560131/videos 2014-03-04 2:45 GMT+01:00 Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com : If I knew or if we were to I probably couldn't say it publicly within my NDA. But honestly speaking? I just don't know, nor have i given it much consideration. Personally, and this is me, nothing to do with AL, I'm so tired of the whole commercial software thing since AD established absolute dominance I've stopped caring much for any of them a while ago. IMO there's this common misconception AD might give a fraction of a fast moving orbital fuck about any of their Western ME clients when it comes to Soft, but in my experience and that of my connections that's simply not true to any relevant extent. Sure, you might get in with some devs or PMs, get some early access, previews, participate in some programs, and have a friendly relationship and so on, but ultimately when it comes to sales or the board nobody has the dullest of hooks in there. This is not to say the people in there, the real people, are anything short of fantastic (some devs, leads and PMs are actually really nice, involved and friendly), at least some of them, but the overall mechanism is just not conducive any more to clients like the ones I work for to be truly catered for, not to the extent smaller firms do. I don't even hate Autodesk for it to be honest, it's a corp, it obeys rules that paint us out of the picture. It'd be like getting mad at gravity the next time I fall on my ass :p If anybody has any swing with AD whatsoever when it comes to Soft it could only be a Japanese client, or some of them associating (unlikely to happen culturally). I can't think of anybody outside of Japan with a triple digit number of seats under maintenance. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Raff Does Animal Logic have the weight to ask Autodesk for a site license? As a parting gift... Steven
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Ditto. We have roughly 65-70 Soft licenses under maintenance, are located in the West, owned by a Korean company who's largest shareholders are Japanese venture capitalists, and are the largest publishers worldwide of games in our genre. I don't think it's had any influence with AD. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:46 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Ensuing Chaos If I knew or if we were to I probably couldn't say it publicly within my NDA. But honestly speaking? I just don't know, nor have i given it much consideration. Personally, and this is me, nothing to do with AL, I'm so tired of the whole commercial software thing since AD established absolute dominance I've stopped caring much for any of them a while ago. IMO there's this common misconception AD might give a fraction of a fast moving orbital fuck about any of their Western ME clients when it comes to Soft, but in my experience and that of my connections that's simply not true to any relevant extent. Sure, you might get in with some devs or PMs, get some early access, previews, participate in some programs, and have a friendly relationship and so on, but ultimately when it comes to sales or the board nobody has the dullest of hooks in there. This is not to say the people in there, the real people, are anything short of fantastic (some devs, leads and PMs are actually really nice, involved and friendly), at least some of them, but the overall mechanism is just not conducive any more to clients like the ones I work for to be truly catered for, not to the extent smaller firms do. I don't even hate Autodesk for it to be honest, it's a corp, it obeys rules that paint us out of the picture. It'd be like getting mad at gravity the next time I fall on my ass :p If anybody has any swing with AD whatsoever when it comes to Soft it could only be a Japanese client, or some of them associating (unlikely to happen culturally). I can't think of anybody outside of Japan with a triple digit number of seats under maintenance. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.commailto:car...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Raff Does Animal Logic have the weight to ask Autodesk for a site license? As a parting gift... Steven
