Re: Linux distro ?

2015-04-07 Thread Alan Fregtman
We use Softimage on CentOS 6.5 without problems where I work.


On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 10:53 AM Francisco Criado malcriad...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Few years ago, i had to implement several Softimage licenses for a studio,
 and decided to go with Centos as os. In that moment the official speech
 from Autodesk was that they only supported RH and after a couple of
 meetings and deploys i could show to the reseller that it was easier to
 deploy Softimage and Maya under Centos rather than RH. About licensing i
 had a LM running on a Windows Server 2012.
 In comparison must say Softimage was more painful about repositories than
 Maya, but nothing that couldnt be resolved in a couple of hours.

 F.


 2015-04-06 8:43 GMT-03:00 Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de:

  One thing to be aware of when using standalone licenses is that while on
 windows,
 the license transfer utilities, deactivation of a standalone license,
 activation of a license
 and all the loggig in, out, management and such work pretty automated and
 reliable,
 this does not apply to Linux.

 Just recently, at a place I freelance, both Maya and Mudbox
 node-locked/aka standalone
 licenses had to move from one machine to another but that required a lot
 of manual back
 and forth with Autodesk support, tickets, proofs, etc.

 Personally, I´d prefer a floating license model.

 That doesn´t completely prevent licensing issues and is also more
 expensive compared to
 standalone stuff but once set up, it´s pretty convenient to swap a
 node/workstation for
 whatever reason.

 The excat reason the above stand alone stuff failed so badly with Linuc,
 I can´t tell you
 because I don´t know but one has to point out that one reason one would
 momentarily
 not want to touch exisiting (stand-alone) licenses is because nobody can
 really tell how
 Autodesk´s this year and early next year´s changes to the license system
 will affect pricing
 and such.

 Assuming the role of the oracle of the dark ages, it feels like the sky
 may fall on our heads any minute now.

 Either the new subscription model will result in painfully higher below
 the line anual per license costs
 or switching now to network licenses (which also costs money, even if it
 actually makes management easier)
 will cost you now just to require yet another (forceful) switch to some
 sort subscription, cloud based BS later.

 Or none of that happens and you end up seeing a license you payed a grand
 for now available for 10 bucks/month...

 Whatever happens there is hard to tell now.

 I have all my stuff floating now (including weeping about those several
 occassions of me throwing away money)
 and reserve myself the right to refuse any changes in the subscription
 models this year/next year if I don´t like them.

 Not everybody can do that, obviously but afaik my floating licenses are
 permanent while those subscription models
 just provide a service for a given amount of time, not a permanent
 license, neither stand alone nor floating...

 Cheers,

 tim







 Am 06.04.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Martin Yara:

  Thanks for the link ! We are still using 2014 and older versions, but
 since we are using 2015 lic +sub I guess the license manager is the same.

  We are using stand alone licenses but considering changing them to
 network lic and setup a server for that purpose. I'm still recollecting
 info.

  Thanks,

  Martin

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Ivan Tay ivan@autodesk.com wrote:

 CentOS 6.2 / Fedora 14 or RedHat 6.2 are certified for Softimage 2015.

 http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/softimage/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Softimage-2015.html

 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
 softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Martin Yara
 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 4:38 PM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: Linux distro ?

 I though that RH was the only certified one, and I was looking for a
 cheap option.

 I'll try with CentOS.

 Thanks.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.commailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
 go for a certified system if licensing is a priority. CentOS or RH, or FC

  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Henry Katz hk-v...@iscs-i.commailto:
 hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 Currently serving on Centos 6.5.


 On 04/05/2015 03:00 PM, Martin wrote:
 I'm considering using an old machine I have, put some Linux in it and
 use it as a server for my Autodesk licenses. What distro would you
 recommend ? My main objective is just the licenses at first, and using it
 as a rendering server and some other services later.

 Thanks.

 Martin
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Re: Linux distro ?

2015-04-06 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
go for a certified system if licensing is a priority. CentOS or RH, or FC

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Henry Katz hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:

 Currently serving on Centos 6.5.


 On 04/05/2015 03:00 PM, Martin wrote:

 I'm considering using an old machine I have, put some Linux in it and use
 it as a server for my Autodesk licenses. What distro would you recommend ?
 My main objective is just the licenses at first, and using it as a
 rendering server and some other services later.

 Thanks.

 Martin
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RE: Linux distro ?

2015-04-06 Thread Ivan Tay
CentOS 6.2 / Fedora 14 or RedHat 6.2 are certified for Softimage 2015.
http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/softimage/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Softimage-2015.html

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Martin Yara
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 4:38 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Linux distro ?

I though that RH was the only certified one, and I was looking for a cheap 
option.

I'll try with CentOS.

Thanks.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Raffaele Fragapane 
raffsxsil...@googlemail.commailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
go for a certified system if licensing is a priority. CentOS or RH, or FC

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Henry Katz 
hk-v...@iscs-i.commailto:hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
Currently serving on Centos 6.5.


On 04/05/2015 03:00 PM, Martin wrote:
I'm considering using an old machine I have, put some Linux in it and use it as 
a server for my Autodesk licenses. What distro would you recommend ? My main 
objective is just the licenses at first, and using it as a rendering server and 
some other services later.

Thanks.

Martin
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Re: Linux distro ?

2015-04-06 Thread Martin Yara
Thanks for the link ! We are still using 2014 and older versions, but since
we are using 2015 lic +sub I guess the license manager is the same.

We are using stand alone licenses but considering changing them to network
lic and setup a server for that purpose. I'm still recollecting info.

Thanks,

Martin

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Ivan Tay ivan@autodesk.com wrote:

 CentOS 6.2 / Fedora 14 or RedHat 6.2 are certified for Softimage 2015.

 http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/softimage/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Softimage-2015.html

 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
 softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Martin Yara
 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 4:38 PM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: Linux distro ?

 I though that RH was the only certified one, and I was looking for a cheap
 option.

 I'll try with CentOS.

 Thanks.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.commailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
 go for a certified system if licensing is a priority. CentOS or RH, or FC

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Henry Katz hk-v...@iscs-i.commailto:
 hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 Currently serving on Centos 6.5.


 On 04/05/2015 03:00 PM, Martin wrote:
 I'm considering using an old machine I have, put some Linux in it and use
 it as a server for my Autodesk licenses. What distro would you recommend ?
 My main objective is just the licenses at first, and using it as a
 rendering server and some other services later.

 Thanks.

 Martin
 Sent from my iPhone



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 Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
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Re: Linux distro ?

2015-04-06 Thread Martin Yara
I though that RH was the only certified one, and I was looking for a cheap
option.

I'll try with CentOS.

Thanks.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Raffaele Fragapane 
raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:

 go for a certified system if licensing is a priority. CentOS or RH, or FC

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Henry Katz hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:

 Currently serving on Centos 6.5.


 On 04/05/2015 03:00 PM, Martin wrote:

 I'm considering using an old machine I have, put some Linux in it and
 use it as a server for my Autodesk licenses. What distro would you
 recommend ? My main objective is just the licenses at first, and using it
 as a rendering server and some other services later.

 Thanks.

 Martin
 Sent from my iPhone





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Re: Linux distro ?

2015-04-06 Thread Tim Leydecker
One thing to be aware of when using standalone licenses is that while on 
windows,
the license transfer utilities, deactivation of a standalone license, 
activation of a license
and all the loggig in, out, management and such work pretty automated 
and reliable,

this does not apply to Linux.

Just recently, at a place I freelance, both Maya and Mudbox 
node-locked/aka standalone
licenses had to move from one machine to another but that required a lot 
of manual back

and forth with Autodesk support, tickets, proofs, etc.

Personally, I´d prefer a floating license model.

That doesn´t completely prevent licensing issues and is also more 
expensive compared to
standalone stuff but once set up, it´s pretty convenient to swap a 
node/workstation for

whatever reason.

The excat reason the above stand alone stuff failed so badly with Linuc, 
I can´t tell you
because I don´t know but one has to point out that one reason one would 
momentarily
not want to touch exisiting (stand-alone) licenses is because nobody can 
really tell how
Autodesk´s this year and early next year´s changes to the license system 
will affect pricing

and such.

Assuming the role of the oracle of the dark ages, it feels like the sky 
may fall on our heads any minute now.


Either the new subscription model will result in painfully higher below 
the line anual per license costs
or switching now to network licenses (which also costs money, even if it 
actually makes management easier)
will cost you now just to require yet another (forceful) switch to some 
sort subscription, cloud based BS later.


Or none of that happens and you end up seeing a license you payed a 
grand for now available for 10 bucks/month...


Whatever happens there is hard to tell now.

I have all my stuff floating now (including weeping about those several 
occassions of me throwing away money)
and reserve myself the right to refuse any changes in the subscription 
models this year/next year if I don´t like them.


Not everybody can do that, obviously but afaik my floating licenses are 
permanent while those subscription models
just provide a service for a given amount of time, not a permanent 
license, neither stand alone nor floating...


Cheers,

tim






Am 06.04.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Martin Yara:
Thanks for the link ! We are still using 2014 and older versions, but 
since we are using 2015 lic +sub I guess the license manager is the same.


We are using stand alone licenses but considering changing them to 
network lic and setup a server for that purpose. I'm still 
recollecting info.


Thanks,

Martin

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Ivan Tay ivan@autodesk.com 
mailto:ivan@autodesk.com wrote:


CentOS 6.2 / Fedora 14 or RedHat 6.2 are certified for Softimage 2015.

http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/softimage/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Softimage-2015.html

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Yara
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 4:38 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Linux distro ?

I though that RH was the only certified one, and I was looking for
a cheap option.

I'll try with CentOS.

Thanks.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Raffaele Fragapane
raffsxsil...@googlemail.com
mailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.commailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com
mailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
go for a certified system if licensing is a priority. CentOS or
RH, or FC

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Henry Katz hk-v...@iscs-i.com
mailto:hk-v...@iscs-i.commailto:hk-v...@iscs-i.com
mailto:hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
Currently serving on Centos 6.5.


On 04/05/2015 03:00 PM, Martin wrote:
I'm considering using an old machine I have, put some Linux in it
and use it as a server for my Autodesk licenses. What distro would
you recommend ? My main objective is just the licenses at first,
and using it as a rendering server and some other services later.

Thanks.

Martin
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Re: Linux distro ?

2015-04-06 Thread Francisco Criado
Few years ago, i had to implement several Softimage licenses for a studio,
and decided to go with Centos as os. In that moment the official speech
from Autodesk was that they only supported RH and after a couple of
meetings and deploys i could show to the reseller that it was easier to
deploy Softimage and Maya under Centos rather than RH. About licensing i
had a LM running on a Windows Server 2012.
In comparison must say Softimage was more painful about repositories than
Maya, but nothing that couldnt be resolved in a couple of hours.

F.


2015-04-06 8:43 GMT-03:00 Tim Leydecker bauero...@gmx.de:

  One thing to be aware of when using standalone licenses is that while on
 windows,
 the license transfer utilities, deactivation of a standalone license,
 activation of a license
 and all the loggig in, out, management and such work pretty automated and
 reliable,
 this does not apply to Linux.

 Just recently, at a place I freelance, both Maya and Mudbox
 node-locked/aka standalone
 licenses had to move from one machine to another but that required a lot
 of manual back
 and forth with Autodesk support, tickets, proofs, etc.

 Personally, I´d prefer a floating license model.

 That doesn´t completely prevent licensing issues and is also more
 expensive compared to
 standalone stuff but once set up, it´s pretty convenient to swap a
 node/workstation for
 whatever reason.

 The excat reason the above stand alone stuff failed so badly with Linuc, I
 can´t tell you
 because I don´t know but one has to point out that one reason one would
 momentarily
 not want to touch exisiting (stand-alone) licenses is because nobody can
 really tell how
 Autodesk´s this year and early next year´s changes to the license system
 will affect pricing
 and such.

 Assuming the role of the oracle of the dark ages, it feels like the sky
 may fall on our heads any minute now.

 Either the new subscription model will result in painfully higher below
 the line anual per license costs
 or switching now to network licenses (which also costs money, even if it
 actually makes management easier)
 will cost you now just to require yet another (forceful) switch to some
 sort subscription, cloud based BS later.

 Or none of that happens and you end up seeing a license you payed a grand
 for now available for 10 bucks/month...

 Whatever happens there is hard to tell now.

 I have all my stuff floating now (including weeping about those several
 occassions of me throwing away money)
 and reserve myself the right to refuse any changes in the subscription
 models this year/next year if I don´t like them.

 Not everybody can do that, obviously but afaik my floating licenses are
 permanent while those subscription models
 just provide a service for a given amount of time, not a permanent
 license, neither stand alone nor floating...

 Cheers,

 tim







 Am 06.04.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Martin Yara:

  Thanks for the link ! We are still using 2014 and older versions, but
 since we are using 2015 lic +sub I guess the license manager is the same.

  We are using stand alone licenses but considering changing them to
 network lic and setup a server for that purpose. I'm still recollecting
 info.

  Thanks,

  Martin

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Ivan Tay ivan@autodesk.com wrote:

 CentOS 6.2 / Fedora 14 or RedHat 6.2 are certified for Softimage 2015.

 http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/softimage/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-Autodesk-Softimage-2015.html

 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
 softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Martin Yara
 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 4:38 PM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: Linux distro ?

 I though that RH was the only certified one, and I was looking for a
 cheap option.

 I'll try with CentOS.

 Thanks.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Raffaele Fragapane 
 raffsxsil...@googlemail.commailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote:
 go for a certified system if licensing is a priority. CentOS or RH, or FC

  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Henry Katz hk-v...@iscs-i.commailto:
 hk-v...@iscs-i.com wrote:
 Currently serving on Centos 6.5.


 On 04/05/2015 03:00 PM, Martin wrote:
 I'm considering using an old machine I have, put some Linux in it and use
 it as a server for my Autodesk licenses. What distro would you recommend ?
 My main objective is just the licenses at first, and using it as a
 rendering server and some other services later.

 Thanks.

 Martin
 Sent from my iPhone



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Re: Linux distro ?

2015-04-05 Thread Henry Katz

Currently serving on Centos 6.5.

On 04/05/2015 03:00 PM, Martin wrote:

I'm considering using an old machine I have, put some Linux in it and use it as 
a server for my Autodesk licenses. What distro would you recommend ? My main 
objective is just the licenses at first, and using it as a rendering server and 
some other services later.

Thanks.

Martin
Sent from my iPhone




Linux distro ?

2015-04-05 Thread Martin
I'm considering using an old machine I have, put some Linux in it and use it as 
a server for my Autodesk licenses. What distro would you recommend ? My main 
objective is just the licenses at first, and using it as a rendering server and 
some other services later.

Thanks.

Martin
Sent from my iPhone


OT: good simple linux distro for laptop?

2014-04-01 Thread Paul Griswold
I figure there are some linux fans here, so hopefully someone has a
suggestion.

My 70+ year old dad has a very old laptop that's still running XP.  It's
not worth paying money to update, but he still wants to use it.  I figure
linux was the way to go  normally would go right to Ubuntu.  But I know a
few years back they started their Unity front end and I don't think my dad
could handle it.

Is there something super-easy that a completely non-tech savvy older person
could use?  I've heard some decent things about Mint, but know nearly
nothing about it.

If not, I'm just going to boot  nuke the thing and tell him to give it
away and buy a new computer.

Thanks,

Paul

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RE: good simple linux distro for laptop?

2014-04-01 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi Paul

its worth seeing what drivers his machine uses and doing some research as to 
what drivers are available.

For my personal preference I really like the Mint releases, Go for the Long 
Term Support ones. Think the most current LTS one is version 13.




From: Paul Griswold [pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com]
Sent: 01 April 2014 08:54 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: OT: good simple linux distro for laptop?

I figure there are some linux fans here, so hopefully someone has a suggestion.

My 70+ year old dad has a very old laptop that's still running XP.  It's not 
worth paying money to update, but he still wants to use it.  I figure linux was 
the way to go  normally would go right to Ubuntu.  But I know a few years back 
they started their Unity front end and I don't think my dad could handle it.

Is there something super-easy that a completely non-tech savvy older person 
could use?  I've heard some decent things about Mint, but know nearly nothing 
about it.

If not, I'm just going to boot  nuke the thing and tell him to give it away 
and buy a new computer.

Thanks,

Paul

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Re: good simple linux distro for laptop?

2014-04-01 Thread Jon Swindells
I have a good portion of this islands retired population on mint15/16
(most from xp). once people get over the slight bump

that passes for a learning curve (it usually amounts to panicked text
messages about not having antivirus) they couldn't be happier.





i'd go for the ubuntu base if possible (deb edition is a lot faster but
you'll need to go with sid/testing for wifi/skype phones etc)







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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014, at 09:58 PM, Angus Davidson wrote:

Hi Paul

its worth seeing what drivers his machine uses and doing some research
as to what drivers are available.

For my personal preference I really like the Mint releases, Go for the
Long Term Support ones. Think the most current LTS one is version 13.



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From: Paul Griswold [pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com]
Sent: 01 April 2014 08:54 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: OT: good simple linux distro for laptop?


I figure there are some linux fans here, so hopefully someone has a
suggestion.

My 70+ year old dad has a very old laptop that's still running XP.
It's not worth paying money to update, but he still wants to use it.  I
figure linux was the way to go  normally would go right to Ubuntu.
But I know a few years back they started their Unity front end and I
don't think my dad could handle it.

Is there something super-easy that a completely non-tech savvy older
person could use?  I've heard some decent things about Mint, but know
nearly nothing about it.

If not, I'm just going to boot  nuke the thing and tell him to give it
away and buy a new computer.

Thanks,

Paul

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Re: good simple linux distro for laptop?

2014-04-01 Thread Jon Swindells
and by 'this Island' i mean Zakynthos.



apologies to the non-psychics out there ;)



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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Jon Swindells wrote:

I have a good portion of this islands retired population on mint15/16
(most from xp). once people get over the slight bump

that passes for a learning curve (it usually amounts to panicked text
messages about not having antivirus) they couldn't be happier.



i'd go for the ubuntu base if possible (deb edition is a lot faster but
you'll need to go with sid/testing for wifi/skype phones etc)



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Re: good simple linux distro for laptop?

2014-04-01 Thread Paul Griswold
Thanks!  I've been reading more about Mint  it might do the trick here.

The laptop is a Dell Vostro running a Core 2 Duo (not sure the speed).  As
long as it'll run Chrome  he can listen to his 1950's streaming radio
station, I think he'll be in good shape.
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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Jon Swindells jon_swinde...@fastmail.fmwrote:

  and by 'this Island' i mean Zakynthos.

 apologies to the non-psychics out there ;)

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 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Jon Swindells wrote:

 I have a good portion of this islands retired population on mint15/16
 (most from xp). once people get over the slight bump
 that passes for a learning curve (it usually amounts to panicked text
 messages about not having antivirus) they couldn't be happier.


 i'd go for the ubuntu base if possible (deb edition is a lot faster but
 you'll need to go with sid/testing for wifi/skype phones etc)


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Re: OT: good simple linux distro for laptop?

2014-04-01 Thread Ognjen Vukovic
mint /thread.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Paul Griswold 
pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote:

 I figure there are some linux fans here, so hopefully someone has a
 suggestion.

 My 70+ year old dad has a very old laptop that's still running XP.  It's
 not worth paying money to update, but he still wants to use it.  I figure
 linux was the way to go  normally would go right to Ubuntu.  But I know a
 few years back they started their Unity front end and I don't think my dad
 could handle it.

 Is there something super-easy that a completely non-tech savvy older
 person could use?  I've heard some decent things about Mint, but know
 nearly nothing about it.

 If not, I'm just going to boot  nuke the thing and tell him to give it
 away and buy a new computer.

 Thanks,

 Paul

  ᐧ



Re: OT: good simple linux distro for laptop?

2014-04-01 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Mint is like Ubuntu with a lot of the suck removed, and, IME, better media
handling out of the box by far.
It's worth at least considering, and it can definitely be made a lot less
twitchy and resource hungry than Ubuntu straight out of the install.
If you're ok with Deb based distros (and if you're OK with Ubuntu it sounds
like you would be) I can recommend it.
It won't run Soft reliably, if at all, but it doesn't sound like your dad
is into that ;)


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Ognjen Vukovic ognj...@gmail.com wrote:

 mint /thread.


 On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Paul Griswold 
 pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote:

 I figure there are some linux fans here, so hopefully someone has a
 suggestion.

 My 70+ year old dad has a very old laptop that's still running XP.  It's
 not worth paying money to update, but he still wants to use it.  I figure
 linux was the way to go  normally would go right to Ubuntu.  But I know a
 few years back they started their Unity front end and I don't think my dad
 could handle it.

 Is there something super-easy that a completely non-tech savvy older
 person could use?  I've heard some decent things about Mint, but know
 nearly nothing about it.

 If not, I'm just going to boot  nuke the thing and tell him to give it
 away and buy a new computer.

 Thanks,

 Paul

  ᐧ





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