Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-25 Thread Ben Rogall

Similarly Wacom has touchpads that also have pen input.
http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen-tablets/intuos-pen-and-touch-small
http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/navigation/bamboo-pad-usb

On 6/25/2015 10:44 AM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
A guy at work who had wrist problems loves his "/Fingerworks iGesture 
Pad/":

http://www.ergocanada.com/products/mice/fingerworks_igest_pad.html
but I don't believe the company exists anymore, though maybe someone 
on eBay still sells it.


Some googling found me a large Logitech trackpad which I imagine is 
probably as good or better:

http://support.logitech.com/product/touchpad-t650


On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:23 AM Adam Seeley > wrote:


Sod it,

I'll just avoid using my hands altogether.

http://www.amazon.com/Bili-Inc-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U

A.

On 25 June 2015 at 15:25, Alan Fregtman mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have always loved the Logitech MX18:

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50

The shape is very comfortable, resolution is adjustable from
the hardware (no drivers needed), the scroll is clicky (not
that weighted smooth endless scroll nonsense), middle mouse
button is just a button (no sideways scroll nonsense, no
smooth/clicky scroll mode switch nonsense) and there's two
handy forward+backward buttons by the thumb area. It's just a
good, comfortable mouse.


On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM Rob Chapman
mailto:tekano@gmail.com>> wrote:

foolish humans, think like a primate.

this has done me for several years, approaching a decade.
refused a
traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this
there are
none.


http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/



best

Rob


On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley
mailto:adammsee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a
tenner.
>
> The more natural grip makes good sense.
>
> A.
>
> On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman
mailto:i.anima...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a
non-personal review of a
>> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about
the 50-70 degree
>> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand
rolls over the top a
>> bit.
>>
>> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get)
development...I
>> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired
version of the Anker
>> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It
feels like a decent
>> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had
a flange for my
>> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is
big enough where it
>> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well
suited for my wife
>> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons
have a bit more
>> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the
wired version, it's a
>> steal.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -=Eric
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane
>> mailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Eric,
>>>
>>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not
everybody feels that way
>>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some
people can't live with
>>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's
research is sketchy
>>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85).
>>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use,
especially if I
>>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a
flat mouse will not
>>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any
force opposite to the
>>> click, the desk will do it for you.
>>>
>>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS),
skipped the three,
>>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and
greatest last year
>>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is
OK-ish at best in my
>>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrass

Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-25 Thread Alan Fregtman
A guy at work who had wrist problems loves his "*Fingerworks iGesture Pad*":
http://www.ergocanada.com/products/mice/fingerworks_igest_pad.html
but I don't believe the company exists anymore, though maybe someone on
eBay still sells it.

Some googling found me a large Logitech trackpad which I imagine is
probably as good or better:
http://support.logitech.com/product/touchpad-t650


On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:23 AM Adam Seeley  wrote:

> Sod it,
>
> I'll just avoid using my hands altogether.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Bili-Inc-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U
>
> A.
>
> On 25 June 2015 at 15:25, Alan Fregtman  wrote:
>
>> I have always loved the Logitech MX18:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50
>>
>> The shape is very comfortable, resolution is adjustable from the hardware
>> (no drivers needed), the scroll is clicky (not that weighted smooth endless
>> scroll nonsense), middle mouse button is just a button (no sideways scroll
>> nonsense, no smooth/clicky scroll mode switch nonsense) and there's two
>> handy forward+backward buttons by the thumb area. It's just a good,
>> comfortable mouse.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM Rob Chapman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> foolish humans, think like a primate.
>>>
>>> this has done me for several years, approaching a decade. refused a
>>> traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this there are
>>> none.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> best
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>>> > Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner.
>>> >
>>> > The more natural grip makes good sense.
>>> >
>>> > A.
>>> >
>>> > On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review
>>> of a
>>> >> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70
>>> degree
>>> >> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the
>>> top a
>>> >> bit.
>>> >>
>>> >> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I
>>> >> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the
>>> Anker
>>> >> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a
>>> decent
>>> >> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for
>>> my
>>> >> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where
>>> it
>>> >> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my
>>> wife
>>> >> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more
>>> >> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version,
>>> it's a
>>> >> steal.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> -=Eric
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane
>>> >>  wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hey Eric,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that
>>> way
>>> >>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't
>>> live with
>>> >>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is
>>> sketchy
>>> >>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85).
>>> >>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if
>>> I
>>> >>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will
>>> not
>>> >>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to
>>> the
>>> >>> click, the desk will do it for you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the
>>> three,
>>> >>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last
>>> year
>>> >>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in
>>> my
>>> >>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2,
>>> though
>>> >>> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is
>>> weak and
>>> >>> too light for me).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to
>>> >>> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can,
>>> either by
>>> >>> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever
>>> fits
>>> >>> best for that task for its duration.
>>> >>> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts
>>> of
>>> >>> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless
>>> you have
>>> >>> one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed
>>> >>> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you
>>> land,
>>> >>> chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> YMMV
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman 
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hey Raffaele,
>>> 
>>>  At that p

Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-25 Thread Adam Seeley
Sod it,

I'll just avoid using my hands altogether.

http://www.amazon.com/Bili-Inc-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U

A.

On 25 June 2015 at 15:25, Alan Fregtman  wrote:

> I have always loved the Logitech MX18:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50
>
> The shape is very comfortable, resolution is adjustable from the hardware
> (no drivers needed), the scroll is clicky (not that weighted smooth endless
> scroll nonsense), middle mouse button is just a button (no sideways scroll
> nonsense, no smooth/clicky scroll mode switch nonsense) and there's two
> handy forward+backward buttons by the thumb area. It's just a good,
> comfortable mouse.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM Rob Chapman  wrote:
>
>> foolish humans, think like a primate.
>>
>> this has done me for several years, approaching a decade. refused a
>> traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this there are
>> none.
>>
>>
>> http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/
>>
>>
>>
>> best
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>> > Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner.
>> >
>> > The more natural grip makes good sense.
>> >
>> > A.
>> >
>> > On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review
>> of a
>> >> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70
>> degree
>> >> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the
>> top a
>> >> bit.
>> >>
>> >> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I
>> >> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the
>> Anker
>> >> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a
>> decent
>> >> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my
>> >> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where
>> it
>> >> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my
>> wife
>> >> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more
>> >> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version,
>> it's a
>> >> steal.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> -=Eric
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey Eric,
>> >>>
>> >>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way
>> >>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live
>> with
>> >>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is
>> sketchy
>> >>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85).
>> >>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I
>> >>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will
>> not
>> >>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to
>> the
>> >>> click, the desk will do it for you.
>> >>>
>> >>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three,
>> >>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last
>> year
>> >>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in
>> my
>> >>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2,
>> though
>> >>> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak
>> and
>> >>> too light for me).
>> >>>
>> >>> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to
>> >>> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can,
>> either by
>> >>> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever
>> fits
>> >>> best for that task for its duration.
>> >>> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of
>> >>> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless
>> you have
>> >>> one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that.
>> >>>
>> >>> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed
>> >>> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you
>> land,
>> >>> chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :)
>> >>>
>> >>> YMMV
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman 
>> >>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hey Raffaele,
>> 
>>  At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my
>> children. I
>>  just wish that is had three full buttons.
>> 
>>  I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4
>> though, I
>>  do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the
>> buttons
>>  are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I
>> really
>>  like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to
>> clicking
>>  with the mouse wheel)
>> 
>>  Cheers,
>>  -=Eric
>> 
>>  On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fraga

Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-25 Thread Alan Fregtman
I have always loved the Logitech MX18:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50

The shape is very comfortable, resolution is adjustable from the hardware
(no drivers needed), the scroll is clicky (not that weighted smooth endless
scroll nonsense), middle mouse button is just a button (no sideways scroll
nonsense, no smooth/clicky scroll mode switch nonsense) and there's two
handy forward+backward buttons by the thumb area. It's just a good,
comfortable mouse.


On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM Rob Chapman  wrote:

> foolish humans, think like a primate.
>
> this has done me for several years, approaching a decade. refused a
> traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this there are
> none.
>
>
> http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/
>
>
>
> best
>
> Rob
>
>
> On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley  wrote:
> > Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner.
> >
> > The more natural grip makes good sense.
> >
> > A.
> >
> > On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman  wrote:
> >>
> >> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review of
> a
> >> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 degree
> >> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the
> top a
> >> bit.
> >>
> >> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I
> >> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the
> Anker
> >> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a
> decent
> >> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my
> >> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where it
> >> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my
> wife
> >> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more
> >> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version,
> it's a
> >> steal.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -=Eric
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey Eric,
> >>>
> >>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way
> >>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live
> with
> >>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy
> >>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85).
> >>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I
> >>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not
> >>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to
> the
> >>> click, the desk will do it for you.
> >>>
> >>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three,
> >>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last
> year
> >>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in my
> >>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2,
> though
> >>> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak
> and
> >>> too light for me).
> >>>
> >>> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to
> >>> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, either
> by
> >>> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever
> fits
> >>> best for that task for its duration.
> >>> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of
> >>> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless
> you have
> >>> one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that.
> >>>
> >>> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed
> >>> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you
> land,
> >>> chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :)
> >>>
> >>> YMMV
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  Hey Raffaele,
> 
>  At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my
> children. I
>  just wish that is had three full buttons.
> 
>  I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though,
> I
>  do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the
> buttons
>  are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I
> really
>  like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to
> clicking
>  with the mouse wheel)
> 
>  Cheers,
>  -=Eric
> 
>  On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane
>   wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC
> > A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of
> > middle mouse button, a far superior mouse.
> > I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent.
>

Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-25 Thread Rob Chapman
foolish humans, think like a primate.

this has done me for several years, approaching a decade. refused a
traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this there are
none.

http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/



best

Rob


On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley  wrote:
> Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner.
>
> The more natural grip makes good sense.
>
> A.
>
> On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman  wrote:
>>
>> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review of a
>> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 degree
>> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the top a
>> bit.
>>
>> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I
>> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the Anker
>> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a decent
>> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my
>> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where it
>> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my wife
>> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more
>> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version, it's a
>> steal.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -=Eric
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Eric,
>>>
>>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way
>>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live with
>>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy
>>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85).
>>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I
>>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not
>>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to the
>>> click, the desk will do it for you.
>>>
>>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three,
>>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last year
>>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in my
>>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2, though
>>> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak and
>>> too light for me).
>>>
>>> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to
>>> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, either by
>>> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever fits
>>> best for that task for its duration.
>>> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of
>>> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless you have
>>> one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that.
>>>
>>> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed
>>> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you land,
>>> chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :)
>>>
>>> YMMV
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman 
>>> wrote:

 Hey Raffaele,

 At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my children. I
 just wish that is had three full buttons.

 I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though, I
 do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the 
 buttons
 are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I really
 like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to clicking
 with the mouse wheel)

 Cheers,
 -=Eric

 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane
  wrote:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC
> A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of
> middle mouse button, a far superior mouse.
> I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent.
>
> The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me
> included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly
> enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't
> have the issue.
>
> It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't
> like.
>
> All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical
> claims are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your 
> wrist.
> The ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse throughout 
> the
> day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work.
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman 
> wrote:
>>
>> After my wrists got jacked up around

Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-25 Thread Adam Seeley
Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner.

The more natural grip makes good sense.

A.

On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman  wrote:

> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review of a
> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 degree
> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the top a
> bit.
>
> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I
> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the Anker
> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a decent
> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my
> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where it
> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my wife
> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more
> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version, it's a
> steal.
>
> Cheers,
> -=Eric
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane <
> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Eric,
>>
>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way
>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live with
>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy
>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85).
>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I
>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not
>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to the
>> click, the desk will do it for you.
>>
>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three,
>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last year
>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in my
>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2, though
>> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak and
>> too light for me).
>>
>> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to
>> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, either by
>> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever fits
>> best for that task for its duration.
>> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of
>> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless you
>> have one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that.
>>
>> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed
>> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you land,
>> chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :)
>>
>> YMMV
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Raffaele,
>>>
>>> At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my children. I
>>> just wish that is had three full buttons.
>>>
>>> I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though, I
>>> do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the
>>> buttons are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I
>>> really like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to
>>> clicking with the mouse wheel)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -=Eric
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
>>> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>

 http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC
 A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of
 middle mouse button, a far superior mouse.
 I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent.

 The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me
 included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly
 enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't
 have the issue.

 It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't
 like.

 All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical
 claims are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your
 wrist. The ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse
 throughout the day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work.

 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman 
 wrote:

> After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a
> wired version of this mouse:
>
> http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html
> --
>
>
>
>
> -=T=-
>



 --
 Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship
 it and let them flee like the dogs they are!

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -=T=-
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Our users will know fear and cower bef

Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-24 Thread Eric Turman
It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review of a
mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 degree
angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the top a
bit.

But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I went
ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the Anker from
Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a decent and
comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my pinkie
so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where it fits well
in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my wife and
children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more resistance
than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version, it's a steal.

Cheers,
-=Eric

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane <
raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hey Eric,
>
> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way
> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live with
> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy
> (50-70 degree is better than their 85).
> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I
> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not
> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to the
> click, the desk will do it for you.
>
> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three, and
> I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last year (the
> one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in my book. At
> least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2, though still
> overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak and too
> light for me).
>
> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to
> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, either by
> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever fits
> best for that task for its duration.
> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of
> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless you
> have one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that.
>
> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed
> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you land,
> chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :)
>
> YMMV
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman  wrote:
>
>> Hey Raffaele,
>>
>> At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my children. I
>> just wish that is had three full buttons.
>>
>> I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though, I
>> do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the
>> buttons are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I
>> really like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to
>> clicking with the mouse wheel)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -=Eric
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
>> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC
>>> A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of
>>> middle mouse button, a far superior mouse.
>>> I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent.
>>>
>>> The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me
>>> included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly
>>> enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't
>>> have the issue.
>>>
>>> It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't
>>> like.
>>>
>>> All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical
>>> claims are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your
>>> wrist. The ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse
>>> throughout the day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired
 version of this mouse:

 http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html
 --




 -=T=-

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
>>> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -=T=-
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>



-- 




-=T=-


Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-24 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Hey Eric,

All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way
about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live with
anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy
(50-70 degree is better than their 85).
The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I have
to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not present
the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to the click, the
desk will do it for you.

I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three, and
I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last year (the
one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in my book. At
least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2, though still
overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak and too
light for me).

I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to
alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, either by
rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever fits
best for that task for its duration.
RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of your
arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless you have one
very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that.

My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed
fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you land,
chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :)

YMMV


On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman  wrote:

> Hey Raffaele,
>
> At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my children. I
> just wish that is had three full buttons.
>
> I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though, I do
> not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the buttons
> are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I really
> like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to clicking
> with the mouse wheel)
>
> Cheers,
> -=Eric
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC
>> A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of
>> middle mouse button, a far superior mouse.
>> I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent.
>>
>> The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me
>> included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly
>> enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't
>> have the issue.
>>
>> It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't
>> like.
>>
>> All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical
>> claims are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your
>> wrist. The ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse
>> throughout the day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired
>>> version of this mouse:
>>>
>>> http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -=T=-
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
>> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> -=T=-
>



-- 
Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
and let them flee like the dogs they are!


Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-23 Thread Eric Turman
Hey Raffaele,

At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my children. I
just wish that is had three full buttons.

I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though, I do
not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the buttons
are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I really
like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to clicking
with the mouse wheel)

Cheers,
-=Eric

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC
> A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of middle
> mouse button, a far superior mouse.
> I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent.
>
> The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me
> included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly
> enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't
> have the issue.
>
> It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't like.
>
> All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical claims
> are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your wrist. The
> ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse throughout the
> day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work.
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman 
> wrote:
>
>> After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired
>> version of this mouse:
>> http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -=T=-
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
> and let them flee like the dogs they are!
>



-- 




-=T=-


RE: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-23 Thread Angus Davidson
I have the Logitech 602 wireless an its extremely comfortable to use. Has a 
nice non slip finish that makes it suitable for long hours. It also just keeps 
on chugging unlike my Razer Mamba which bricked itself after the first firmware 
update ;(

From: Doeke Wartena [doeke.wart...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 June 2015 12:01 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

whatever you buy, don't get a razer. I had 3 razers, 2 of them broke, I gave 
the other one away cause it made my hand really hurt after a days of gaming (it 
was to flat) :D

I love my logitech g502, I had a logitech g300 or something like that before 
which was also really great.
Logitech also has good waranty.

I heard some good things about the final mouse (mentioned above) as well.

2015-06-23 19:29 GMT+02:00 Sam Cuttriss 
mailto:tea...@gmail.com>>:
cheap as chips: 
http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Precision-Programmable-programmable-Cartridge/dp/B00GU4F4OM/

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Ed Manning 
mailto:etmth...@gmail.com>> wrote:
http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse


On Monday, June 22, 2015, Adam Seeley 
mailto:adammsee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Folks,

I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one 
(fnar!)

.. any glowing recommendations out there?

Ideally wireless with a dock.

Logitech performance seems popular.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/

Thasnk,

Adam.







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Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-23 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC
A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of middle
mouse button, a far superior mouse.
I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent.

The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me
included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly
enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't
have the issue.

It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't like.

All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical claims
are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your wrist. The
ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse throughout the
day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work.

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman  wrote:

> After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired
> version of this mouse:
> http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html
> --
>
>
>
>
> -=T=-
>



-- 
Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
and let them flee like the dogs they are!


Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-23 Thread Doeke Wartena
whatever you buy, don't get a razer. I had 3 razers, 2 of them broke, I
gave the other one away cause it made my hand really hurt after a days of
gaming (it was to flat) :D

I love my logitech g502, I had a logitech g300 or something like that
before which was also really great.
Logitech also has good waranty.

I heard some good things about the final mouse (mentioned above) as well.

2015-06-23 19:29 GMT+02:00 Sam Cuttriss :

> cheap as chips:
> http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Precision-Programmable-programmable-Cartridge/dp/B00GU4F4OM/
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Ed Manning  wrote:
>
>> http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 22, 2015, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small
>>> one (fnar!)
>>>
>>> .. any glowing recommendations out there?
>>>
>>> Ideally wireless with a dock.
>>>
>>> Logitech performance seems popular.
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/
>>>
>>> Thasnk,
>>>
>>> Adam.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>


OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-23 Thread Derek Jenson
I agree with Eric, the Evoluent Vertical mouse is very good. Give your muscles 
a few days to embrace the vertical format.  
   

Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-23 Thread Sam Cuttriss
cheap as chips:
http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Precision-Programmable-programmable-Cartridge/dp/B00GU4F4OM/

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Ed Manning  wrote:

> http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse
>
>
> On Monday, June 22, 2015, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one
>> (fnar!)
>>
>> .. any glowing recommendations out there?
>>
>> Ideally wireless with a dock.
>>
>> Logitech performance seems popular.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/
>>
>> Thasnk,
>>
>> Adam.
>>
>>
>>


Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-23 Thread Ed Manning
http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse

On Monday, June 22, 2015, Adam Seeley  wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one
> (fnar!)
>
> .. any glowing recommendations out there?
>
> Ideally wireless with a dock.
>
> Logitech performance seems popular.
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/
>
> Thasnk,
>
> Adam.
>
>
>


Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-23 Thread Adam Seeley
Thanks,

A short list of 4 is a good start.

A.




On 22 June 2015 at 13:52, Eric Turman  wrote:

> After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired
> version of this mouse:
> http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html
> --
>
>
>
>
> -=T=-
>


Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-22 Thread Eric Turman
After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired
version of this mouse:
http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html
-- 




-=T=-


Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-22 Thread Mirko Jankovic
tablet and pen :)

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:21 PM, James De Colling  wrote:

> i swear by the steelseries stuff, have been using them exclusively for a
> few years now
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Ognjen Vukovic 
> wrote:
>
>> The mx has an crapy scroll with no actuation points , go with the g400s :)
>> cant beat it.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Artur Woźniak 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://finalmouse.com/
>>>
>>> 2015-06-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Adam Seeley :
>>>
 Hi Folks,

 I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small
 one (fnar!)

 .. any glowing recommendations out there?

 Ideally wireless with a dock.

 Logitech performance seems popular.

 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/

 Thasnk,

 Adam.



>>>
>>
>


Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-22 Thread James De Colling
i swear by the steelseries stuff, have been using them exclusively for a
few years now

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:

> The mx has an crapy scroll with no actuation points , go with the g400s :)
> cant beat it.
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Artur Woźniak 
> wrote:
>
>> http://finalmouse.com/
>>
>> 2015-06-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Adam Seeley :
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small
>>> one (fnar!)
>>>
>>> .. any glowing recommendations out there?
>>>
>>> Ideally wireless with a dock.
>>>
>>> Logitech performance seems popular.
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/
>>>
>>> Thasnk,
>>>
>>> Adam.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-22 Thread Ognjen Vukovic
The mx has an crapy scroll with no actuation points , go with the g400s :)
cant beat it.

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Artur Woźniak  wrote:

> http://finalmouse.com/
>
> 2015-06-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Adam Seeley :
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one
>> (fnar!)
>>
>> .. any glowing recommendations out there?
>>
>> Ideally wireless with a dock.
>>
>> Logitech performance seems popular.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/
>>
>> Thasnk,
>>
>> Adam.
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-22 Thread Artur Woźniak
http://finalmouse.com/

2015-06-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Adam Seeley :

> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one
> (fnar!)
>
> .. any glowing recommendations out there?
>
> Ideally wireless with a dock.
>
> Logitech performance seems popular.
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/
>
> Thasnk,
>
> Adam.
>
>
>


OT: Mouse recommendations

2015-06-22 Thread Adam Seeley
Hi Folks,

I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one
(fnar!)

.. any glowing recommendations out there?

Ideally wireless with a dock.

Logitech performance seems popular.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/

Thasnk,

Adam.