Re: OT - Blueprints/dimensions > 1K

[Tim Leydecker]

Hi Daniel,

thanks for the link!

I had found those blueprint style drawings already but there´s more nice 
info in the thread I didn´t have.


You´re right, I´m playing around with Game assets.

Here in Germany, we don´t have Internet filtering (like in the UK, we 
have GEMA, thought) but we do of course
have laws regarding the possession of firearms. This can sometimes feel 
a bit funny, for example in case
you ever own a steak hammer that has a knuckle-duster grip, don´t bring 
it to Germany, even if it´s solid silver.


Itzee verboten, because itzze regarded a dangerous weapon. I don´t see 
why but that may just be me.


Same could apply for a coffeemug with knuckle duster grip but I´d have 
to re-check if that is currently allowed or not.
For assault rifle type weapons/pistols/rifles/etc , there´s ways to get 
stuff approved (by having certain parts welded/drilled).


We have a few dealer here specialized on deactivated stuff, sometimes 
even offering reasonable pricing.


For stuff like Tommy Guns, Stens, AK(m)s, M16´s that´s better sources 
than flimsy Airsoft models but there´s exceptions.



Cheers,

tim

P.S: Another good source is google´s us patent search...





Am 20.02.2015 um 13:50 schrieb Daniel Brassard:
You must have some serious filters in Germany for weapons. It took me 
1 Google minute to fing a blueprint of the stoner 63.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=650934
Middle of the page has a full scaled blueprint.
Yes, company are very protective of their IP. You also have toconsider 
that information like weapons are controlled for safety and security 
reasons.

Look like you are working on game assets.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Tim Leydecker > wrote:


Thanks guys for the links and suggestions.

I´ve checked my specs, turns out that my triangle limit for a car
should be
in the 25000 - 45 000 tri region, incl. interiors.

That means interesting silhouettes are still possible but no
specific make details.

I´ve ordered some books to cook things down into their essence and
go from there,
still trying to find representative examples of a specific area as
"C-Frame" masters
to pop various grills and bodies on, generalising wheelbases and
interiors.


For the guns, stuff like the Stoner 63 or any type of shotguns
like Winchester M97 or M12´s
are hard to come by in Germany and airsoft replicas are the only
option, also for stuff
like some types of tactical lights, nightvision scopes and
pistol-grip shotguns, as there
are quite some restrictions for possession of such stuff in Germany.

Not to mention thatColt for example is touchy when using their IP.
Like IKEA.

In short, I guess I´ll be able to depict a specific class but not
specific makes.

Cheers,

tim


Am 19.02.2015 um 16:29 schrieb Tom Kleinenberg:

Sorry, the complete list is a little more impressive
http://www.suurland.com/assets.php

On 19 February 2015 at 17:28, Tom Kleinenberg mailto:zagan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I use Suurland
(http://www.suurland.com/blueprints.php?catagory=2&order=name) but
they're not >1k.

On 19 February 2015 at 16:57, Gerbrand Nel mailto:nagv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

For weapons you could look into airsoft replicas.
The insides are airsoft, but the outsides of these"toys"
are sometimes very accurate.
Just a thought :)
G

On 19/02/2015 16:15, Tim Leydecker wrote:

Hi guys,


does anyone know of a good ressource for firearms and
vehicles:

weapons blueprints - Swedish K´s/Port Said´s, Stoner
63´s, S&W K-Frames, M16/M16A1´s, M60s.
vehicle blueprints, especially 60´s cars, from sedans
to station wagons.

I´d be willing to pay handling fees for machining
level data and or reliable dimensions
depending on origin (laws applicable)
bolthead/receiver int. detail data can be excluded.

I´m finding it especially hard to find really good
vehicle data.

There´s some GMC heritage stuff and a variety of
books on amazon available
but multi view plans of 60s/70cars are rare, as is
photo data.

There are many 3D models available (like from
humster3D.com) to start with but I would appreciate
to be able to add more accuracy and detail based on
plans and references.

For weapons, here in Germany, I can resort to getting
deact´s for hands on data aquisition or check
weaponeer.net  to see
enthusiasts at work but for cars, there´s loads of
   

Re: OT - Blueprints/dimensions > 1K

[Daniel Brassard]

You must have some serious filters in Germany for weapons. It took me 1
Google minute to fing a blueprint of the stoner 63.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=123&t=650934

Middle of the page has a full scaled blueprint.

Yes, company are very protective of their IP. You also have toconsider
that information like weapons are controlled for safety and security
reasons.

Look like you are working on game assets.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Tim Leydecker  wrote:

>  Thanks guys for the links and suggestions.
>
> I´ve checked my specs, turns out that my triangle limit for a car should be
> in the 25000 - 45 000 tri region, incl. interiors.
>
> That means interesting silhouettes are still possible but no specific make
> details.
>
> I´ve ordered some books to cook things down into their essence and go from
> there,
> still trying to find representative examples of a specific area as
> "C-Frame" masters
> to pop various grills and bodies on, generalising wheelbases and interiors.
>
>
> For the guns, stuff like the Stoner 63 or any type of shotguns like
> Winchester M97 or M12´s
> are hard to come by in Germany and airsoft replicas are the only option,
> also for stuff
> like some types of tactical lights, nightvision scopes and pistol-grip
> shotguns, as there
> are quite some restrictions for possession of such stuff in Germany.
>
> Not to mention thatColt for example is touchy when using their IP. Like
> IKEA.
>
> In short, I guess I´ll be able to depict a specific class but not specific
> makes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> tim
>
>
> Am 19.02.2015 um 16:29 schrieb Tom Kleinenberg:
>
> Sorry, the complete list is a little more impressive
> http://www.suurland.com/assets.php
>
> On 19 February 2015 at 17:28, Tom Kleinenberg  wrote:
>
>> I use Suurland (
>> http://www.suurland.com/blueprints.php?catagory=2&order=name) but
>> they're not >1k.
>>
>> On 19 February 2015 at 16:57, Gerbrand Nel  wrote:
>>
>>> For weapons you could look into airsoft replicas.
>>> The insides are airsoft, but the outsides of these"toys" are sometimes
>>> very accurate.
>>> Just a thought :)
>>> G
>>>
>>> On 19/02/2015 16:15, Tim Leydecker wrote:
>>>
 Hi guys,


 does anyone know of a good ressource for firearms and vehicles:

 weapons blueprints - Swedish K´s/Port Said´s, Stoner 63´s, S&W
 K-Frames, M16/M16A1´s, M60s.
 vehicle blueprints, especially 60´s cars, from sedans to station wagons.

 I´d be willing to pay handling fees for machining level data and or
 reliable dimensions
 depending on origin (laws applicable) bolthead/receiver int. detail
 data can be excluded.

 I´m finding it especially hard to find really good vehicle data.

 There´s some GMC heritage stuff and a variety of books on amazon
 available
 but multi view plans of 60s/70cars are rare, as is photo data.

 There are many 3D models available (like from humster3D.com) to start
 with but I would appreciate
 to be able to add more accuracy and detail based on plans and
 references.

 For weapons, here in Germany, I can resort to getting deact´s for hands
 on data aquisition or check
 weaponeer.net to see enthusiasts at work but for cars, there´s loads
 of stuff less than accurate enough.

 Cheers,

 tim







>>>
>>
>
>

Re: OT - Blueprints/dimensions > 1K

[Tim Leydecker]

Thanks guys for the links and suggestions.

I´ve checked my specs, turns out that my triangle limit for a car should be
in the 25000 - 45 000 tri region, incl. interiors.

That means interesting silhouettes are still possible but no specific 
make details.


I´ve ordered some books to cook things down into their essence and go 
from there,
still trying to find representative examples of a specific area as 
"C-Frame" masters

to pop various grills and bodies on, generalising wheelbases and interiors.


For the guns, stuff like the Stoner 63 or any type of shotguns like 
Winchester M97 or M12´s
are hard to come by in Germany and airsoft replicas are the only option, 
also for stuff
like some types of tactical lights, nightvision scopes and pistol-grip 
shotguns, as there

are quite some restrictions for possession of such stuff in Germany.

Not to mention thatColt for example is touchy when using their IP. Like 
IKEA.


In short, I guess I´ll be able to depict a specific class but not 
specific makes.


Cheers,

tim


Am 19.02.2015 um 16:29 schrieb Tom Kleinenberg:
Sorry, the complete list is a little more impressive 
http://www.suurland.com/assets.php


On 19 February 2015 at 17:28, Tom Kleinenberg > wrote:


I use Suurland
(http://www.suurland.com/blueprints.php?catagory=2&order=name) but
they're not >1k.

On 19 February 2015 at 16:57, Gerbrand Nel mailto:nagv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

For weapons you could look into airsoft replicas.
The insides are airsoft, but the outsides of these"toys" are
sometimes very accurate.
Just a thought :)
G

On 19/02/2015 16:15, Tim Leydecker wrote:

Hi guys,


does anyone know of a good ressource for firearms and
vehicles:

weapons blueprints - Swedish K´s/Port Said´s, Stoner 63´s,
S&W K-Frames, M16/M16A1´s, M60s.
vehicle blueprints, especially 60´s cars, from sedans to
station wagons.

I´d be willing to pay handling fees for machining level
data and or reliable dimensions
depending on origin (laws applicable) bolthead/receiver
int. detail data can be excluded.

I´m finding it especially hard to find really good vehicle
data.

There´s some GMC heritage stuff and a variety of books on
amazon available
but multi view plans of 60s/70cars are rare, as is photo data.

There are many 3D models available (like from
humster3D.com) to start with but I would appreciate
to be able to add more accuracy and detail based on plans
and references.

For weapons, here in Germany, I can resort to getting
deact´s for hands on data aquisition or check
weaponeer.net  to see enthusiasts at
work but for cars, there´s loads of stuff less than
accurate enough.

Cheers,

tim

Re: OT - Blueprints/dimensions > 1K

[Tom Kleinenberg]

Sorry, the complete list is a little more impressive
http://www.suurland.com/assets.php

On 19 February 2015 at 17:28, Tom Kleinenberg  wrote:

> I use Suurland (
> http://www.suurland.com/blueprints.php?catagory=2&order=name) but they're
> not >1k.
>
> On 19 February 2015 at 16:57, Gerbrand Nel  wrote:
>
>> For weapons you could look into airsoft replicas.
>> The insides are airsoft, but the outsides of these"toys" are sometimes
>> very accurate.
>> Just a thought :)
>> G
>>
>> On 19/02/2015 16:15, Tim Leydecker wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>>
>>> does anyone know of a good ressource for firearms and vehicles:
>>>
>>> weapons blueprints - Swedish K´s/Port Said´s, Stoner 63´s, S&W K-Frames,
>>> M16/M16A1´s, M60s.
>>> vehicle blueprints, especially 60´s cars, from sedans to station wagons.
>>>
>>> I´d be willing to pay handling fees for machining level data and or
>>> reliable dimensions
>>> depending on origin (laws applicable) bolthead/receiver int. detail data
>>> can be excluded.
>>>
>>> I´m finding it especially hard to find really good vehicle data.
>>>
>>> There´s some GMC heritage stuff and a variety of books on amazon
>>> available
>>> but multi view plans of 60s/70cars are rare, as is photo data.
>>>
>>> There are many 3D models available (like from humster3D.com) to start
>>> with but I would appreciate
>>> to be able to add more accuracy and detail based on plans and references.
>>>
>>> For weapons, here in Germany, I can resort to getting deact´s for hands
>>> on data aquisition or check
>>> weaponeer.net to see enthusiasts at work but for cars, there´s loads of
>>> stuff less than accurate enough.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: OT - Blueprints/dimensions > 1K

[Tom Kleinenberg]

I use Suurland (http://www.suurland.com/blueprints.php?catagory=2&order=name)
but they're not >1k.

On 19 February 2015 at 16:57, Gerbrand Nel  wrote:

> For weapons you could look into airsoft replicas.
> The insides are airsoft, but the outsides of these"toys" are sometimes
> very accurate.
> Just a thought :)
> G
>
> On 19/02/2015 16:15, Tim Leydecker wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>>
>> does anyone know of a good ressource for firearms and vehicles:
>>
>> weapons blueprints - Swedish K´s/Port Said´s, Stoner 63´s, S&W K-Frames,
>> M16/M16A1´s, M60s.
>> vehicle blueprints, especially 60´s cars, from sedans to station wagons.
>>
>> I´d be willing to pay handling fees for machining level data and or
>> reliable dimensions
>> depending on origin (laws applicable) bolthead/receiver int. detail data
>> can be excluded.
>>
>> I´m finding it especially hard to find really good vehicle data.
>>
>> There´s some GMC heritage stuff and a variety of books on amazon available
>> but multi view plans of 60s/70cars are rare, as is photo data.
>>
>> There are many 3D models available (like from humster3D.com) to start
>> with but I would appreciate
>> to be able to add more accuracy and detail based on plans and references.
>>
>> For weapons, here in Germany, I can resort to getting deact´s for hands
>> on data aquisition or check
>> weaponeer.net to see enthusiasts at work but for cars, there´s loads of
>> stuff less than accurate enough.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: OT - Blueprints/dimensions > 1K

[Daniel Brassard]

Start with The-blueprints.com 

The weapons are in rifle section or sub-machine gun section.

Lots of vehicle blueprints as well.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Gerbrand Nel  wrote:

> For weapons you could look into airsoft replicas.
> The insides are airsoft, but the outsides of these"toys" are sometimes
> very accurate.
> Just a thought :)
> G
>
> On 19/02/2015 16:15, Tim Leydecker wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>>
>> does anyone know of a good ressource for firearms and vehicles:
>>
>> weapons blueprints - Swedish K´s/Port Said´s, Stoner 63´s, S&W K-Frames,
>> M16/M16A1´s, M60s.
>> vehicle blueprints, especially 60´s cars, from sedans to station wagons.
>>
>> I´d be willing to pay handling fees for machining level data and or
>> reliable dimensions
>> depending on origin (laws applicable) bolthead/receiver int. detail data
>> can be excluded.
>>
>> I´m finding it especially hard to find really good vehicle data.
>>
>> There´s some GMC heritage stuff and a variety of books on amazon available
>> but multi view plans of 60s/70cars are rare, as is photo data.
>>
>> There are many 3D models available (like from humster3D.com) to start
>> with but I would appreciate
>> to be able to add more accuracy and detail based on plans and references.
>>
>> For weapons, here in Germany, I can resort to getting deact´s for hands
>> on data aquisition or check
>> weaponeer.net to see enthusiasts at work but for cars, there´s loads of
>> stuff less than accurate enough.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: OT - Blueprints/dimensions > 1K

[Gerbrand Nel]

For weapons you could look into airsoft replicas.
The insides are airsoft, but the outsides of these"toys" are sometimes 
very accurate.

Just a thought :)
G
On 19/02/2015 16:15, Tim Leydecker wrote:

Hi guys,


does anyone know of a good ressource for firearms and vehicles:

weapons blueprints - Swedish K´s/Port Said´s, Stoner 63´s, S&W 
K-Frames, M16/M16A1´s, M60s.

vehicle blueprints, especially 60´s cars, from sedans to station wagons.

I´d be willing to pay handling fees for machining level data and or 
reliable dimensions
depending on origin (laws applicable) bolthead/receiver int. detail 
data can be excluded.


I´m finding it especially hard to find really good vehicle data.

There´s some GMC heritage stuff and a variety of books on amazon 
available

but multi view plans of 60s/70cars are rare, as is photo data.

There are many 3D models available (like from humster3D.com) to start 
with but I would appreciate

to be able to add more accuracy and detail based on plans and references.

For weapons, here in Germany, I can resort to getting deact´s for 
hands on data aquisition or check
weaponeer.net to see enthusiasts at work but for cars, there´s loads 
of stuff less than accurate enough.


Cheers,

tim

OT - Blueprints/dimensions > 1K

[Tim Leydecker]

Hi guys,


does anyone know of a good ressource for firearms and vehicles:

weapons blueprints - Swedish K´s/Port Said´s, Stoner 63´s, S&W K-Frames, 
M16/M16A1´s, M60s.

vehicle blueprints, especially 60´s cars, from sedans to station wagons.

I´d be willing to pay handling fees for machining level data and or 
reliable dimensions
depending on origin (laws applicable) bolthead/receiver int. detail data 
can be excluded.


I´m finding it especially hard to find really good vehicle data.

There´s some GMC heritage stuff and a variety of books on amazon available
but multi view plans of 60s/70cars are rare, as is photo data.

There are many 3D models available (like from humster3D.com) to start 
with but I would appreciate

to be able to add more accuracy and detail based on plans and references.

For weapons, here in Germany, I can resort to getting deact´s for hands 
on data aquisition or check
weaponeer.net to see enthusiasts at work but for cars, there´s loads of 
stuff less than accurate enough.


Cheers,

tim