Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-14 Thread Ed Manning
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>> *Subject:* Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
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>> We are using it everyday now. We have currently 2 game projects being
>> done in Softimage.
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>> The rest is Maya.
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>> Martin
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>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:39 AM Matt Lind  wrote:
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>> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the
>> year, and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost
>> tried to avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
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>> Once support left the product, so did the users.
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>> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't
>> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
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>> Matt
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>> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 +
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>> From: Matt Morris 
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>> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
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>> To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
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>> Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.
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>> Had a quick look back at list activity:
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>> 2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k
>> posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311
>> 2018: 1058 2019: 657
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-14 Thread patrick nethercoat
Heartbreaky indeed.

I'm still using it but moving to Cinema4D (and Houdini) for freelancing now
and finding with great reluctance that although a lot of the workflow isn't
as good as Soft, there are so many tools that are miles ahead. The C4D
splines toolset alone is a massive time saver. Soft was really neglected in
some areas.

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 10:58, adrian wyer 
wrote:

> using it every day, although im the last one in the studio, everyone else
> on Houdini and Maya
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> and although i can still do stuff quicker than other software, im starting
> feel the gaps in what you can do with Soft
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> breaks my heart that it's never going to be updated
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> *Subject:* Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
>
>
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> We are using it everyday now. We have currently 2 game projects being done
> in Softimage.
>
> The rest is Maya.
>
>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:39 AM Matt Lind  wrote:
>
> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the
> year, and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost
> tried to avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
>
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> Once support left the product, so did the users.
>
>
>
> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't
> mean tink

Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-14 Thread Chris Marshall
Soft is my main 3d tool (fnar) still. Other than a big shift to After
Effects. My head appears to not understand most other 3d apps
unfortunately, and when working alone, there's no-one to bounce questions
off.


On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 11:00, Graham Bell  wrote:

> it was March 2014 that the announcement was made, so it will be 6 years
> this coming March.
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:31 AM Jordi Bares  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Matt, 5 years then.
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>> On 13 Jan 2020, at 22:40, Matt Lind  wrote:
>>
>> The announcement was 5 years ago, going on 6. Not 8 years.
>> Matt
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:19:14 +0000 From: Jordi Bares
>> jordiba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the
>> numbers To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>> Regarding your question, I am also interested, it has been more than 8
>> years since the announcement so it is quite telling there are still artists
>> using it. XSI was so freaking good!
>> jb
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-14 Thread Graham Bell
it was March 2014 that the announcement was made, so it will be 6 years
this coming March.

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:31 AM Jordi Bares  wrote:

> Thanks Matt, 5 years then.
>
> On 13 Jan 2020, at 22:40, Matt Lind  wrote:
>
> The announcement was 5 years ago, going on 6. Not 8 years.
> Matt
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:19:14 + From: Jordi Bares
> jordiba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the
> numbers To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
> Regarding your question, I am also interested, it has been more than 8
> years since the announcement so it is quite telling there are still artists
> using it. XSI was so freaking good!
> jb
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RE: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-14 Thread adrian wyer
using it every day, although im the last one in the studio, everyone else on
Houdini and Maya

 

and although i can still do stuff quicker than other software, im starting
feel the gaps in what you can do with Soft

 

breaks my heart that it's never going to be updated

 

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We are using it everyday now. We have currently 2 game projects being done
in Softimage.

The rest is Maya.

 

Martin

 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:39 AM Matt Lind  wrote:

Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the year,
and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost tried to
avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.

 

Once support left the product, so did the users.

 

I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't
mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.

 

 

Matt

 

 

 


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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 + 

From: Matt Morris  

Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers 

To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.

 

Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.

Had a quick look back at list activity:

2011 - 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k
posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311
2018: 1058 2019: 657

 

 

 

 
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-14 Thread Martin Yara
We are using it everyday now. We have currently 2 game projects being done
in Softimage.
The rest is Maya.

Martin

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:39 AM Matt Lind  wrote:

> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the
> year, and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost
> tried to avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
>
> Once support left the product, so did the users.
>
> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't
> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> --
>
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 +0000
>
> From: Matt Morris 
>
> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
>
> To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>
>
> Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.
>
> Had a quick look back at list activity:
>
> 2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k
> posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311
> 2018: 1058 2019: 657
>
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-14 Thread Jordi Bares
Thanks Matt, 5 years then.

> On 13 Jan 2020, at 22:40, Matt Lind  wrote:
> 
> The announcement was 5 years ago, going on 6. Not 8 years.
> Matt
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:19:14 + From: Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com 
> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers To: "Official 
> Softimage Users Mailing List.
> Regarding your question, I am also interested, it has been more than 8 years 
> since the announcement so it is quite telling there are still artists using 
> it. XSI was so freaking good!
> jb
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-13 Thread Matt Lind
rnal issue.  Optionally, you could try a 
virtual machine, but the caveat is you might not be able to access the 
licensing in hardware if it uses an older technology (That's what bit me in 
attempts to get SI3D in a virtual machine as the dongle uses a parallel port 
and modern computers don't have them.  I tried a parallel to serial port 
adapter, which works on a physical machine, but not a virtual machine). 
Then, of course, keep all your content in a safe place so it can be accessed 
when needed.  Finally, document all the quirks that need to be known about 
anything that can be a problem in accessing the content.  For example, does 
a particular scene require special handshake to render correctly?  If so, 
what is that handshake?  Document it, and make sure you've taken care of any 
dependencies associated with it.

I think XSI will continue to function for a long time, but the most likely 
problems will be the licensing.  Another potential issue is OpenGL support. 
SI3D still runs on modern graphics cards because they still support OpenGL 
1.x and OpenGL 2.x.  That might not continue for much longer as 
manufacturers look for ways to thin the OpenGL support requirements to get 
driver sizes smaller and more manageable.  XSI in particular is heavily 
coupled with Microsoft's COM/OLE.  While I don't think it'll stop working 
tomorrow, the writing is on the wall.  Netview is already disabled in many 
ways from internet security protocols implemented to inhibit Internet 
Explorer's ActiveX scripting environment.  With Windows 7 support expiring 
this week - you may want to download any support needed on that front as 
newer / current versions of Windows might not allow such features to run 
even if offline.

In short, create an environment that is a snapshot of the application's best 
working form, then preserve it.

Matt





Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 12:17:40 +0100
From: ron...@toonafish.nl
Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.

I stlll use Softimage every day.

I?m slowly trying to switch to Houdini ( for the thrird time ) but it?s not 
much fun when you know there's a Ferrari in the driveway, but have to use 
the bycicle to get from A to B :-)

Maybe for complex Special FX Houdinin is great, but for modeling and 
character stuff I keep on running into strangely convoluted workflows or 
basic stuff that?s just not possible or takes so much time to create a 
procedural workaround for you forgot what you wanted to do in the first 
place by the time you?re done.

Besides that I still have to work on some old projects in Soft every now and 
then.

Btw, how will we be able to revisit old Softimage projects when Autodesk 
stops activating old licenses next year and you have to install it on a new 
computer ? I just did a fresh install on a new workstation so I hope I?m 
covered for a few years. But what if I need to reinstall it in a few years 
on a new workstation ?

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On 11 Jan 2020, at 01:39, Matt Lind  wrote:

Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the year, 
and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread. I almost tried to 
avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.

Once support left the product, so did the users.

I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't 
mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.

Matt

Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 + From: Matt Morris  
Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers To: "Official 
Softimage Users Mailing List.

Feeling a little maudlin at those figures. Had a quick look back at list 
activity: 2011 ? 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 
2014: 14k posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 
2017: 2311 2018: 1058 2019: 657

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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-13 Thread Steven Caron
no need to be rude to Jason, he clearly didn't know

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 2:50 PM Mirko Jankovic <
mirko.yanko...@protonmail.com> wrote:

> Actually the announcementwas made the day AD bought Softimage.
> It was really clear from day one.
>
> "The future is bright!"
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2020-01-13 Thread Mirko Jankovic
Actually the announcementwas made the day AD bought Softimage.
It was really clear from day one.

"The future is bright!"

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On Monday, 13 January 2020 23:40, Matt Lind  wrote:

> The announcement was 5 years ago, going on 6. Not 8 years.
>
> Matt
>
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:19:14 + From: Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com 
> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers To: "Official 
> Softimage Users Mailing List.
>
> Regarding your question, I am also interested, it has been more than 8 years 
> since the announcement so it is quite telling there are still artists using 
> it. XSI was so freaking good!
>
> jb
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2020-01-13 Thread Matt Lind
The announcement was 5 years ago, going on 6.  Not 8 years.

Matt



Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:19:14 +
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Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.

Regarding your question, I am also interested, it has been more than 8 years 
since the announcement so it is quite telling there are still artists using 
it. XSI was so freaking good!

jb






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2020-01-13 Thread michael johansson
I still since 1994 use softimage more or less everyday. Mostly for
conceptual visualizations and prototypes and finding it hard to get up to
speed with modelling in any other application, so i will continue with
Softimage as long as I can.

Den mån 13 jan. 2020 kl 11:44 skrev balazs kiss :

> I do, every day, and I think 2 or 3 more guys in our office as well.
> Others are on maya or houdini, moving slowly towards houdini, but it is a
> slow process, and it is hard to learn it. There are things I'd rather do in
> houdini, but xsi/ice still feels a lot more intuitive..
>
> On 1/11/20, Matt Lind  wrote:
>
> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the
> year, and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread. I almost
> tried to avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
>
> Once support left the product, so did the users.
>
> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't
> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
>
> Matt
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2020-01-13 Thread Jordi Bares
It is hard go move away from XSI if you still can go back…the same with 
languages, only full immersion works and the results are normally astonishing 
in the sense that you will feel confident much sooner than you think.

But I do certainly understand the need for being productive and it is not an 
easy task with any package.

My suggestion would be do one small job with it, no effects, just something 
easy, materials/render kind of thing…  hire a Houdini artist to help you out on 
the transition and execution of the job and you will be moving on the right 
track.

Regarding your question, I am also interested, it has been more than 8 years 
since the announcement so it is quite telling there are still artists using it. 
XSI was so freaking good!

jb


> On 13 Jan 2020, at 10:44, balazs kiss  wrote:
> 
> I do, every day, and I think 2 or 3 more guys in our office as well. Others 
> are on maya or houdini, moving slowly towards houdini, but it is a slow 
> process, and it is hard to learn it. There are things I'd rather do in 
> houdini, but xsi/ice still feels a lot more intuitive..
> 
> On 1/11/20, Matt Lind  wrote:
> 
> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the year, 
> and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread. I almost tried to 
> avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
> 
> Once support left the product, so did the users.
> 
> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't 
> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
> 
> Matt
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2020-01-13 Thread ronald
I stlll use Softimage every day.

I’m slowly trying to switch to Houdini ( for the thrird time )  but it’s not 
much fun when you know there's a Ferrari in the driveway, but have to use the 
bycicle to get from A to B :-)

Maybe for complex Special FX Houdinin is great, but for modeling and character 
stuff I keep on running into strangely convoluted workflows or basic stuff 
that’s just not possible or takes so much time to create a procedural 
workaround for you forgot what you wanted to do in the first place by the time 
you’re done.

Besides that I still have to work on some old projects in Soft every now and 
then.

Btw, how will we be able to revisit old Softimage projects when Autodesk stops 
activating old licenses next year and you have to install it on a new computer ?
I just did a fresh install on a new workstation so I hope I’m covered for a few 
years. But what if I need to reinstall it in a few years on a new workstation ?



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> On 11 Jan 2020, at 01:39, Matt Lind  wrote:
> 
> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the year, 
> and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost tried to 
> avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
> 
> Once support left the product, so did the users.
> 
> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't 
> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
> 
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 +0000 
> From: Matt Morris  
> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers 
> To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
> 
> Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.
> Had a quick look back at list activity:
> 2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k 
> posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311 
> 2018: 1058 2019: 657
> 
> 
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-13 Thread balazs kiss
I do, every day, and I think 2 or 3 more guys in our office as well.
Others are on maya or houdini, moving slowly towards houdini, but it
is a slow process, and it is hard to learn it.
There are things I'd rather do in houdini, but xsi/ice still feels a
lot more intuitive..


On 1/11/20, Matt Lind  wrote:
> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the year,
> and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost tried to
> avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
>
> Once support left the product, so did the users.
>
> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't
> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
>
>
> Matt
>
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-11 Thread F Sanchez
I think at this point I will be using XSI for ICE power and maybe some
things I might be able to do quicker there than in Maya.  But I am starting
to get a bit rusty with XSI so I feel I need to go in there and use it on a
project or 2 to fire up the old muscle memory.
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On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 4:36 PM Rui Santos  wrote:

> Still using Softimage
>
> A sábado, 11 de jan de 2020, 00:39, Matt Lind 
> escreveu:
>
>> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the
>> year, and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost
>> tried to avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
>>
>> Once support left the product, so did the users.
>>
>> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't
>> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------
>>
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 +
>>
>> From: Matt Morris 
>>
>> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
>>
>> To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>>
>>
>> Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.
>>
>> Had a quick look back at list activity:
>>
>> 2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k
>> posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311
>> 2018: 1058 2019: 657
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-11 Thread Matt Lind
No, don't think so, Jordi.

Houdini is learnable, even by non-VFX artists, but it requires a lot of hand 
holding to get comfortable.  If you're learning by yourself, it's an uphill 
climb, especially in because of all the recent massive revamping of the 
application as documentation is out of date and many workflows require 
knowledge of how earlier versions of Houdini behaved.

The biggest weakness of Houdini tutorials is lack of structure to teaching 
it.  Every tutorial is it's own little world and there are plenty of people 
like Rohan showing how to do different things, but nobody ties it into the 
bigger story arc of how Houdini works in a structured approach so you can 
progress from novice to expert and tackle your own ideas with aplomb. 
SideFX provides tutorials to get you out of the box covering basics such as 
user interface, windows, and basic stuff, but then they just kind of leave 
you hanging there.  There isn't an agreed upon best practices arc in any of 
the learning content, just a lot of 'that’s just how we've always done it'. 
Okaybut why?

For example, in many videos objects are created and then the instructor dips 
into the subnetwork of the object to create more objects.  See Rohan's 
videos on making a procedural table.  Never is it explained why he must 
create all the objects in a single subnetwork, or why you cannot connect 
different objects through the network to create the same result.  He also 
terminates many networks with a 'null' or transform node, but doesn't go 
into detail explaining why that should be done other than to say that's how 
he does it and no to worry about the details.  Tutorials by others do more 
or less the same thing leaving many important details on the table without 
explanation.  This leads to other problems.

A more expected type tutorial is one by Jeff Lait of SideFX where he covers 
a single topic of 64 bit computing support through attributes.  He focuses 
on a single narrow concept, but goes to town on all the nuances including 
explaining how many historical elements of Houdini do not support 64 bit 
computing unless you know which levers and switches to throw.  Then he 
points out how to do it, in detail.  The acquired knowledge and technique is 
usable in almost any project.  I cannot say the same for many other 
tutorials which are built in very specific manners limiting their benefit.

Another element of frustration is how many tools are not single nodes, but 
are actually networks of nodes bundled as a preset.  You try to work with 
them only to discover there is a parameter value deep in that network that 
has to be toggled before it behaves to expectation, but it requires decent 
knowledge of the application to know that, and to know where to look.  Ugh.

Example: recreating the XSI direction constraint with lag.

In XSI you can make the camera follow an object around the scene very easily 
by applying a direction constraint to the camera, then reducing the blend 
parameter so it can be allowed to travel within the frame a bit so it's not 
dead center all the time.  Easy peasy.  Try this in Houdini and you'll pull 
your hair out to the point your scalped.  While it's straight forward to 
apply a direction constraint in Houdini, it's not so easy to get the lag to 
behave like in XSI where you want the target to be able to travel ahead a 
bit within the frame as desired.  You have to have knowledge of CHOPS 
networks and meddle with FCurves to finesse it further.  Even then there's 
no guarantee you can achieve the same result.  If you botch the process of 
applying the constraint, or need to apply other constraints to the same 
object, then you get into a mess of CHOPS networks in who knows what state. 
The display in the network view doesn't make this point obvious as there are 
no links connecting the CHOPS to the constraint.  There's a lot of room for 
improvement on conveying this relationship.

Houdini is a very powerful application, but the training material leaves a 
lot to be desired and is not nearly as easy as you claim.


Matt




Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 14:30:26 +
From: Jordi Bares 
Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.

What kind of work do you do? Or aim to?

Houdini is not hard at all unless you want to get into abstract graphics and 
serious VFX.

jb


Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:09:13 +
From: Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.

Check Rohan Dalvi tutorials, some free!

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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-11 Thread Rui Santos
Still using Softimage

A sábado, 11 de jan de 2020, 00:39, Matt Lind 
escreveu:

> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the
> year, and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost
> tried to avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
>
> Once support left the product, so did the users.
>
> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't
> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> --
>
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 +0000
>
> From: Matt Morris 
>
> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
>
> To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>
>
> Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.
>
> Had a quick look back at list activity:
>
> 2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k
> posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311
> 2018: 1058 2019: 657
>
>
>
>
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-11 Thread Jordi Bares
n a feature but try to show a parcel of the very 
> huge project to an art gallery to get finance to pay some one or more 
> freelance which could share files with me working fbx on softimage.
> 
> Over years of study after this rough sketch which you can see on my website ( 
> as « le Schema de Taltli » )  i have quite refined my mastery at drawing with 
> softimage but would not want to spoil the surprise of my way of new softimage 
> kind of drawing and so i don’t show any new stuff now. I can say :
> Its neither cartoony neither photorealist as i am foremost an artist in the 
> XXst century sense of being an « artist » but want to develop as such within 
> the cinema element and the 3D elements.
> If i work with financing co-creative co-actors they could use softimage or 
> houdini the requisite is sharing files via fbx.
> Good to know from you that houdini is simpler than i thought. ( I thought 
> from watching different tutorials, that it was difficult to remember in your 
> brains memory the codes lines for modifying the geometries and be 
> innovatingly using this software like i am now more at ease with reinventing 
> way of working with 3D via softimage)
> At the moment i am in the meantime writing a novel in order to see clearer 
> the way direction of my movie goes. I am inventing everything and do not rely 
> on classical screenwriting nor on classical direction.
> I believe that’s the opportunity offered by 3D which is missed when you or it 
> seems sometimes the whole us and eu industry ) try to copycat star wars .
> 
> Writing and seeing this list vanishing is exasparating as i fear not never 
> getting this first parcel of feature on the rail and work one day soon 
> hopefully with co-creatives on this large scale innovative project.
> 
> I did a ziggurat this summer with ice and my friends who have seen it find 
> this «  great art » and marvelous so its encouraging. I am currently working 
> on «  Julioh » who is an angel with blue wings but who would this time appear 
> in 3d in the way i am sketching it off the computer ( new way of 
> understanding 3d i believe ).
> (
> Le Schema de Taltli by
> Mathyas Jacqmain
> )
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 15:30, Jordi Bares  <mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> What kind of work do you do? Or aim to?
> 
> Houdini is not hard at all unless you want to get into abstract graphics and 
> serious VFX.
> 
> jb
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Jan 2020, at 11:07, Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain > <mailto:arc.ann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am using softimage as a painter in movement.
>> I need to think and write a lot before painting.
>> I need to speed up before the license ends. Its distressing.
>> I don’t have the lifespan to learn houdini.
>> 
>> 
>> Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 02:11, Stephen Davidson > <mailto:magic...@bellsouth.net>> a écrit :
>> I still make money using it for all my 3D work. Even though Redshift 3D no 
>> longer supports it, I still use the last version that works with XSI.
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 7:38 PM Matt Lind > <mailto:speye...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the year, 
>> and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost tried to 
>> avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
>> 
>> Once support left the product, so did the users.
>> 
>> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't 
>> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
>> 
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 + 
>> 
>> From: Matt Morris mailto:matt...@gmail.com>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers 
>> 
>> To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.
>> 
>> Had a quick look back at list activity:
>> 
>> 2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k 
>> posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311 
>> 2018: 1058 2019: 657
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-11 Thread Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain
Hello.

I have published a book in 2018 with dialogues/poetry/philosophy alongside
printed paintings done with corel painter and softimage.
The book is i believe still available on amazon french or italy or deutch
or japan, or somewhere else still sure(  28€ ) though the book is bilingual
french and english written original by author ( me) its called << Le Scema
de Taltli>> with subtitles:<>&
<>.
It goes alongside a movie which is called << le Schema de Taltli >> 14 min
28 sec softimage.
Music by me. Watch it here:

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Since then i am working on a feature but try to show a parcel of the very
huge project to an art gallery to get finance to pay some one or more
freelance which could share files with me working fbx on softimage.

Over years of study after this rough sketch which you can see on my website
( as « le Schema de Taltli » )  i have quite refined my mastery at drawing
with softimage but would not want to spoil the surprise of my way of new
softimage kind of drawing and so i don’t show any new stuff now. I can say :
Its neither cartoony neither photorealist as i am foremost an artist in the
XXst century sense of being an « artist » but want to develop as such
within the cinema element and the 3D elements.
If i work with financing co-creative co-actors they could use softimage or
houdini the requisite is sharing files via fbx.
Good to know from you that houdini is simpler than i thought. ( I thought
from watching different tutorials, that it was difficult to remember in
your brains memory the codes lines for modifying the geometries and be
innovatingly using this software like i am now more at ease with
reinventing way of working with 3D via softimage)
At the moment i am in the meantime writing a novel in order to see clearer
the way direction of my movie goes. I am inventing everything and do not
rely on classical screenwriting nor on classical direction.
I believe that’s the opportunity offered by 3D which is missed when you or
it seems sometimes the whole us and eu industry ) try to copycat star wars .

Writing and seeing this list vanishing is exasparating as i fear not never
getting this first parcel of feature on the rail and work one day soon
hopefully with co-creatives on this large scale innovative project.

I did a ziggurat this summer with ice and my friends who have seen it find
this «  great art » and marvelous so its encouraging. I am currently
working on «  Julioh » who is an angel with blue wings but who would this
time appear in 3d in the way i am sketching it off the computer ( new way
of understanding 3d i believe ).
(
Le Schema de Taltli by
Mathyas Jacqmain
)




Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 15:30, Jordi Bares  a écrit :

> What kind of work do you do? Or aim to?
>
> Houdini is not hard at all unless you want to get into abstract graphics
> and serious VFX.
>
> jb
>
>
>
> On 11 Jan 2020, at 11:07, Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain 
> wrote:
>
> I am using softimage as a painter in movement.
> I need to think and write a lot before painting.
> I need to speed up before the license ends. Its distressing.
> I don’t have the lifespan to learn houdini.
>
>
> Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 02:11, Stephen Davidson 
> a écrit :
>
>> I still make money using it for all my 3D work. Even though Redshift 3D
>> no longer supports it, I still use the last version that works with XSI.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 7:38 PM Matt Lind  wrote:
>>
>>> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the
>>> year, and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost
>>> tried to avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
>>>
>>> Once support left the product, so did the users.
>>>
>>> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I
>>> don't mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful
>>> work.
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 +
>>>
&g

Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-11 Thread Jordi Bares
What kind of work do you do? Or aim to?

Houdini is not hard at all unless you want to get into abstract graphics and 
serious VFX.

jb



> On 11 Jan 2020, at 11:07, Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain  
> wrote:
> 
> I am using softimage as a painter in movement.
> I need to think and write a lot before painting.
> I need to speed up before the license ends. Its distressing.
> I don’t have the lifespan to learn houdini.
> 
> 
> Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 02:11, Stephen Davidson  <mailto:magic...@bellsouth.net>> a écrit :
> I still make money using it for all my 3D work. Even though Redshift 3D no 
> longer supports it, I still use the last version that works with XSI.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 7:38 PM Matt Lind  <mailto:speye...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the year, 
> and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost tried to 
> avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
> 
> Once support left the product, so did the users.
> 
> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't 
> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
> 
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 + 
> 
> From: Matt Morris mailto:matt...@gmail.com>> 
> 
> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers 
> 
> To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
> 
> 
> 
> Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.
> 
> Had a quick look back at list activity:
> 
> 2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k 
> posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311 
> 2018: 1058 2019: 657
> 
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RE: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-11 Thread Sven Constable
I'm still using it as the main 3D software and I do it for a living. A few 
years ago, I decided to stay with it. Probably for the rest of my professional 
career.

I'm kinda lucky in a way that I have a solid and quite professional production 
pipeline I can manage entirely by myself. I have the resources  and the 
knowledge to keep it up and running.

It's not in the budget right now but next big thing will be (hopefully) to move 
the farm to redshift. 


A downside is, that projects are not as interesting and challenging as they 
were when I worked as a freelancer at companies. That is not because of XSI 
rather than it is quite hard to get your hands on bigger projects if you're a 
one man show.

 

I see two concerns may or may not coming in the future that I don't know how to 
handle yet. One might be that we will no longer work with polygons or any 
"surface based" modeling and everything will go point cloud (not seeing it in 
the next ten years). The other thing is a big rise of realtime engines that 
might kill any offline renderer and therefore any software that relies on it. 

Even that second concern seems to be more likely to happen soon, I'd say it 
won't affect me too much. I don't charge for render time anymore, usually I 
don't have tight deadlines, and photo realism is as real as it gets. So what.

But I'm just speculating and it might turn out completely different. :)

Sven

 

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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 1:39 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

 

Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the year, and 
he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost tried to avoid 
the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.

 

Once support left the product, so did the users.

 

I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't mean 
tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.

 

 

Matt

 

 

 

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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 + 

From: Matt Morris  

Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers 

To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.

 

Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.

Had a quick look back at list activity:

2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k posts 
(eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311 2018: 1058 
2019: 657

 

 

 

  
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-11 Thread Nicole Beeckmans-Jacqmain
I am using softimage as a painter in movement.
I need to think and write a lot before painting.
I need to speed up before the license ends. Its distressing.
I don’t have the lifespan to learn houdini.


Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 02:11, Stephen Davidson  a
écrit :

> I still make money using it for all my 3D work. Even though Redshift 3D no
> longer supports it, I still use the last version that works with XSI.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 7:38 PM Matt Lind  wrote:
>
>> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the
>> year, and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost
>> tried to avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
>>
>> Once support left the product, so did the users.
>>
>> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't
>> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------
>>
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 +
>>
>> From: Matt Morris 
>>
>> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
>>
>> To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>>
>>
>> Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.
>>
>> Had a quick look back at list activity:
>>
>> 2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k
>> posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311
>> 2018: 1058 2019: 657
>>
>>
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-10 Thread Stephen Davidson
I still make money using it for all my 3D work. Even though Redshift 3D no
longer supports it, I still use the last version that works with XSI.

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 7:38 PM Matt Lind  wrote:

> Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the
> year, and he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost
> tried to avoid the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.
>
> Once support left the product, so did the users.
>
> I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't
> mean tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> --
>
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 +0000
>
> From: Matt Morris 
>
> Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers
>
> To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>
>
> Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.
>
> Had a quick look back at list activity:
>
> 2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k
> posts (eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311
> 2018: 1058 2019: 657
>
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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-10 Thread Matt Lind
Most telling statistic is that Stephen Blair is the top poster of the year, and 
he typically only posts the Friday Flashback thread.  I almost tried to avoid 
the list this year and I still ended up in the top ten.

Once support left the product, so did the users.

I'm curious to know how many people are still actively using XSI. I don't mean 
tinker with it, but actually using it regularly for meaningful work.


Matt






Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:33:28 +

From: Matt Morris 

Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List.


Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.

Had a quick look back at list activity:

2011 – 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year. 2014: 14k posts 
(eol announcement) 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off) 2016: 3282 2017: 2311 2018: 1058 
2019: 657



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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-09 Thread Andi Farhall
we could just swap the names and  carry on

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Subject: Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

ya, that is a craaazy drop off. would love to see the increase on the houdini 
forums ;)

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:34 PM Matt Morris 
mailto:matt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.

Had a quick look back at list activity:

2011 - 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year.
2014: 14k posts (eol announcement)
2015: 4055 (crazy drop off)
2016: 3282
2017: 2311
2018: 1058
2019: 657


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Re: Softimage mailing list: 2019 by the numbers

2020-01-08 Thread Steven Caron
ya, that is a craaazy drop off. would love to see the increase on the
houdini forums ;)

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:34 PM Matt Morris  wrote:

> Feeling a little maudlin at those figures.
>
> Had a quick look back at list activity:
>
> 2011 - 2013: holding pretty steady at around 12k posts a year.
> 2014: 14k posts (eol announcement)
> 2015: 4055 (crazy drop off)
> 2016: 3282
> 2017: 2311
> 2018: 1058
> 2019: 657
>
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