Re: planned transitional training?
I was thinking along the lines of training that addresses the specific problems for users coming from Softimage. I am aware of the wealth of training for Maya in general. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: planned transitional training?
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Re: planned transitional training?
Crystal clear! I await your further actions... Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
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Hey Leendert, Thank you for the offer and I hope to be able to give you something to communicate very soon. Just to be clear, planning has indeed been in place for transitional training materials, it's just that I am not fully up to speed with where that plan is at, having only just come on board - but I just read something very encouraging. I'm sorry, bear with me, more soon on this topic. Jill <>
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Hi Eric Just to point out that the educational guys dont have the luxury of the 2 years. Softimage ceased to be an option as of the day of the announcement, We have a course that starts in less then 3 months that will have to be Maya / (LT). Yes people do need to step back a bit and be a bit more respectful of the guys that have been brought into help. However I do believe your last statement was the most accurate though. Things haven't been figured out. They should have been in place for the announcement. One thing they could do is speed up the release date. All the 2015 M&E releases are already out in the wild. At least give your actual customers the chance to get up to speed faster ;) Kind regards Angus From: Eric Thivierge [ethivie...@hybride.com] Sent: 25 March 2014 10:57 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: planned transitional training? Leendert, Some of us are transitioning to Max / Maya and need the resources being discussed. For the time being I'm assuming things are pretty much a mess across the board with the transition at every company using Softimage and at AD. I don't care at this point how well this has been planned or organized. The fact is, Jill has come out to tell you they are working on it. She can't give you definite answers when she may not have them. This is out of her control and thus there is nothing more to discuss. We just have to wait for when they can give us the information. We don't need to move quickly. We still have at the very least 2 years to transition (more in fact since we can sit on our subscription with Softimage continually) so there isn't a super rush. We have a bunch of (50+ at least) people at work here that need the training material but we're not in a panic rush. I think many others are in the same boat. It's in my opinion that we all need to take a step back, take a few breaths, and not try to pick apart everything that is being said to us at this point. However deserving you think it is, it is what it is and there isn't much we can do about it. Her reply is at least being honest of where things stand. Things aren't figured out yet. Bottom line. Best, Eric T. On 3/25/2014 4:30 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: > But that's an admittedly small part of the problem, isn't it? Autodesk > expects people to transition to Max/Maya, deciding rather quickly > between the two and obviously AD wants people to shy away from the > competition, but cannot even commit itself clearly to some additional > training material. While understandable on a rational level, it feels > wrong... > > Greetz > Leendert > = This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.
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I understand all this and I will even shut up about this for now (after this post). The planning of this, however, is bad. And that's not necessarily anybody's fault on a personal level and I don't blame anyone. But the idea that there seems to be nothing much in place so shortly before we get "our hands" on the 2015 generation is still something noteworthy. But that's all folks. I hope Jill understands that the offer I made to Maurice in an earlier mail in this thread, in that I am willing to help to get a message across to the si-community, still stands... Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: planned transitional training?
Leendert, Some of us are transitioning to Max / Maya and need the resources being discussed. For the time being I'm assuming things are pretty much a mess across the board with the transition at every company using Softimage and at AD. I don't care at this point how well this has been planned or organized. The fact is, Jill has come out to tell you they are working on it. She can't give you definite answers when she may not have them. This is out of her control and thus there is nothing more to discuss. We just have to wait for when they can give us the information. We don't need to move quickly. We still have at the very least 2 years to transition (more in fact since we can sit on our subscription with Softimage continually) so there isn't a super rush. We have a bunch of (50+ at least) people at work here that need the training material but we're not in a panic rush. I think many others are in the same boat. It's in my opinion that we all need to take a step back, take a few breaths, and not try to pick apart everything that is being said to us at this point. However deserving you think it is, it is what it is and there isn't much we can do about it. Her reply is at least being honest of where things stand. Things aren't figured out yet. Bottom line. Best, Eric T. On 3/25/2014 4:30 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: But that's an admittedly small part of the problem, isn't it? Autodesk expects people to transition to Max/Maya, deciding rather quickly between the two and obviously AD wants people to shy away from the competition, but cannot even commit itself clearly to some additional training material. While understandable on a rational level, it feels wrong... Greetz Leendert
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You're right, everybody's a bit "on edge". ;) Sorry for the misunderstanding! Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
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Sorry Leendert, I was replying to Eric's mail which is referring to Jill's introduction. The negativity comment was not implying you or your comments. But it shows how everybody is on its teeth on this list! Lol! -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leendert A. Hartog Sent: 25 mars 2014 16:36 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: planned transitional training? Sorry, now you're definitively picking on the wrong guy. I am not being overly negative in any way. I asked a question that didn't seem unreasonable. I even offered my help to get the message across. And we're having a follow-up on that. There are other threads that could benefit way more from this kind of criticism... Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
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Sorry, now you're definitively picking on the wrong guy. I am not being overly negative in any way. I asked a question that didn't seem unreasonable. I even offered my help to get the message across. And we're having a follow-up on that. There are other threads that could benefit way more from this kind of criticism... Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
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Totally agree. I've been reading the list but was about to leave it be for a week and come back as it's just too much negativity...not enough creativity. Welcome Jill, see you on the forums. -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge (Contact) Sent: 25 mars 2014 16:25 To chime in, I think we need to also take a step back at this point and remember there are real human beings that are trying to help and may need some time to get their footing. Perry already vouched for Jill so I think we need to take that with a significant amount of weight and with the perspective that someone from our own ranks has gone out of their way to do this. Let's give Jill some time to get information together for us. It's good to see someone is working on this for us in general. I'd rather they spend a good amount of time gathering info on what we'll need than rushing to promise things they can't deliver. Best, Eric T.
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But that's an admittedly small part of the problem, isn't it? Autodesk expects people to transition to Max/Maya, deciding rather quickly between the two and obviously AD wants people to shy away from the competition, but cannot even commit itself clearly to some additional training material. While understandable on a rational level, it feels wrong... Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
Re: planned transitional training?
To chime in, I think we need to also take a step back at this point and remember there are real human beings that are trying to help and may need some time to get their footing. Perry already vouched for Jill so I think we need to take that with a significant amount of weight and with the perspective that someone from our own ranks has gone out of their way to do this. Let's give Jill some time to get information together for us. It's good to see someone is working on this for us in general. I'd rather they spend a good amount of time gathering info on what we'll need than rushing to promise things they can't deliver. Best, Eric T. On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:20:27 PM, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote: I do understand, but I'm not prepared to announce something until I know what I can deliver (I think that's the last thing you want). I think the webinars that Maurice mentioned are something different - not the training resources you are looking for. I do promise I am actively looking into it and anticipate having something more concrete to tell you soon. Again, thank you for your patience. Jill
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I do understand, but I'm not prepared to announce something until I know what I can deliver (I think that's the last thing you want). I think the webinars that Maurice mentioned are something different - not the training resources you are looking for. I do promise I am actively looking into it and anticipate having something more concrete to tell you soon. Again, thank you for your patience. Jill <>
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At this point a mere official announcement of the intentions would help tremendously I guess. People have a feeling of loss over Softimage and on top of that a feeling of being left alone in the dark concerning the transition. Telling them they can still expect transitional training might help lift some moods a little. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
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Hello Leendert, Transitional training requirements are something I need to get my head around and figure out a plan. I apologize that I'm not completely up to speed yet on that topic but I'll attempt to get there as quickly as I can! Thanks for your patience, Jill -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leendert A. Hartog Sent: March-25-14 3:25 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: planned transitional training? Okay, thanks. Please make sure to make your plans known at the earliest possible date (as people start to stop believing anything will still come from AD in this respect and that you "broadcast" it to the widest range of users (i.e. not only the Mailing List). If you were to contact me directly, I could push the info on the si-community. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com <>
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Okay, thanks. Please make sure to make your plans known at the earliest possible date (as people start to stop believing anything will still come from AD in this respect and that you "broadcast" it to the widest range of users (i.e. not only the Mailing List). If you were to contact me directly, I could push the info on the si-community. Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
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Sorry - It did get lost in all the threads Yes we plan on rolling out webinars starting in May Maurice Maurice Patel Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 -Original Message- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leendert A. Hartog Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:03 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: planned transitional training? Well, that's slightly less response than I had hoped for obviously, but in itself it's an answer too, I guess Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com <>
Re: planned transitional training?
Well, that's slightly less response than I had hoped for obviously, but in itself it's an answer too, I guess Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com
