Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Tenshi S.]

+1

So this is for real?
Do it! :)


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Bk  wrote:

> Id they don't show, we could pretend we *are* Autodesk and make an
> official statement that we are proud to reintroduce Softimage as the
> flagship product to our portfolio of digital content creation tools.
>
>
>
>
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:47, Matt Lind  wrote:
>
> The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting.  Last year
> they reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth.
>
> What they do this year remains to be seen.
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
>
> were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this
> year?
>
> http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html
>
>
>
> On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas  wrote:
>
> If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this
>
> problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always
>
> think they are king.
>
>
> The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they
>
> did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and
>
> care), this may not have become such a shit storm.
>
>
> OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things
>
> like this (and hopefully doing them)...
>
>
> They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an
>
> automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking
>
> it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the
>
> fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge
>
> will eventually snap.
>
>
>
>

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[David Rivera]

Kickstart: I definetly believe in the system.


 
David Rivera
3D Compositor/Animator
LinkedIN
Behance
VFX Reel



On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:30 PM, "pete...@skynet.be"  
wrote:
 
kickstart that!
I’m definitely backing that – one of the best suggestions yet. 
From: Bk 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:09 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally 
uploaded
  
Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? 
I'm serious. It would be so much fun.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling  
wrote:


Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of  the 
Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric  
integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
>
>Press  wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"
>
>AD staff steaming silently  in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"
>
>
>
>
>On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:
>
>I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we  have a lineup 
>of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.  
>> 
>>Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya,  show 
>>how much longer it takes. 
>> 
>>With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be  
>>interested in seeing what all the noise is about. 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel  
>>wrote:
>>
>>I'm not fan of the idea.
>>>Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya 
  already. If someone want's to transition, there are  a lot of 
  material to train with.
>>>As already said, no need to try to work the 
  same workflow in another app, it's different.
>>>
>>>Here, it's more "Give 
  us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the whole thing since the 
  "anouncement".
>>>"Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice 
  nodes..."
>>>
>>>Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, 
  nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more 
  money.
>>>
>>>AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in 
  exchange we show you.
>>>
>>>I'm bad, my mother told me 
  ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit 
  :
>>>
>>>I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in  Softimage 
>>>and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video  series.
>>>>It would be most entertaining.  
>>>>Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had  some 
>>>>experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in  ice -30 mins.. 
>>>>2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they  would usually 
>>>>achieve things in under a week.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare  the workflow of a 
>>>>single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to  what Emilio Hernandez did 
>>>>for the Dorrito technique 
>>>>> 
>>>>>I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to  know how 
>>>>>the workflow will change
>>>>> 
>>>>>By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015  announcement...
>>>>> 
>>>>>Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't  care 
>>>>>about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell  from Mark 
>>>>>Schnnoegel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>>>>>
>>>>>What  I don't understand is howthey  want me tomakethe  transition toa 
>>>>>software  thatdoesn't  have thetools  thatI  usedbefore?  Such  as 
>>>>>ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I  won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere  is 
>>>>>notransition.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I  will continueusingSoftimage as  long as I can, and  
>>>>>>complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary...  because these 
>>>>>>softwares are those that more listen to your users,  and that is the 
>>>>>>future for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera : 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So I head onto:
>>>>>>>http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I 
>>>>>>>skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping  intro
>>>>>>>is  going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what  
>>>>>>>they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage  video.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Quitted.  Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
>>>>>>>Now  I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even a  
>>>>>>>word of consideration for 15 years career on  softimage.
>>>>>>>Not  even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports  
>>>>>>>families and pays bills...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>David Rivera
>>>>>>>3D Compositor/Animator
>>>>>>>LinkedIN
>>>>>>>Behance
>>>>>>>VFX  Reel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>www.pauloduarte.ws
>>>>> 
>>>
>> 
> 

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[peter_b]

kickstart that!
I’m definitely backing that – one of the best suggestions yet.

From: Bk 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:09 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm 
serious. It would be so much fun.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling  
wrote:


  Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the 
Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric 
integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.


  Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"


  AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"




  On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:

I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a 
lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.  

Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show 
how much longer it takes. 

With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be 
interested in seeing what all the noise is about. 





On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel  
wrote:

  I'm not fan of the idea.
  Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to 
transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
  As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, 
it's different.

  Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the 
whole thing since the "anouncement".
  "Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."

  Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against 
the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.

  AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.

  I'm bad, my mother told me ...





  Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in 
Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
It would be most entertaining.  
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 
guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve 
things in under a week.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:


  I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow 
of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did 
for the Dorrito technique 

  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know 
how the workflow will change

  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark 
Schnnoegel



  2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte 
:

What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition 
to a software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE 
mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no 
transition. 


I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement 
with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are 
those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.



2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera 
: 


  So I head onto:
  http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and 
I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
  is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So 
what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.


  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
  Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t 
even a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that 
supports families and pays bills...



  David Rivera
  3D Compositor/Animator
  LinkedIN
  Behance
  VFX Reel




-- 

www.pauloduarte.ws

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[David Gallagher]

HA! That's what I was thinking.

Or we can register as the company "Autodisk" and announce our *brand new 
software package* and show all the amazing things you can do with it.   ;)



On 3/19/2014 3:54 PM, Bk wrote:
Id they don't show, we could pretend we /are/ Autodesk and make an 
official statement that we are proud to reintroduce Softimage as the 
flagship product to our portfolio of digital content creation tools.





On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:47, Matt Lind <mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com>> wrote:


The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting.  Last 
year they reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth.


What they do this year remains to be seen.


Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>

Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there 
this year?


http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html



On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas <mailto:perryharo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this
problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always
think they are king.

The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they
did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and
care), this may not have become such a shit storm.

OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things
like this (and hopefully doing them)...

They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an
automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking
it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the
fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge
will eventually snap.

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Bk]

Id they don't show, we could pretend we are Autodesk and make an official 
statement that we are proud to reintroduce Softimage as the flagship product to 
our portfolio of digital content creation tools.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:47, Matt Lind  wrote:

> The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting.  Last year 
> they reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth.
> 
> What they do this year remains to be seen.
> 
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
> 
> were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year?
> 
> http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas  wrote:
>> If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this 
>> problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always 
>> think they are king.
>> 
>> The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they 
>> did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and 
>> care), this may not have become such a shit storm.
>> 
>> OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things 
>> like this (and hopefully doing them)...
>> 
>> They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an 
>> automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking 
>> it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the 
>> fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge 
>> will eventually snap.
>> 
>> 

RE: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Matt Lind]

The past few years they had a booth and no user group meeting.  Last year they 
reversed course and had a user group meeting, but no booth.

What they do this year remains to be seen.


Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Rob Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:31 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year?

http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html



On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas  wrote:
> If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this 
> problem for themselves on the Siggraph show floor, where they always 
> think they are king.
>
> The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they 
> did, but if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and 
> care), this may not have become such a shit storm.
>
> OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things 
> like this (and hopefully doing them)...
>
> They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an 
> automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking 
> it will get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the 
> fireworks, but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge 
> will eventually snap.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Bk  wrote:
>>
>> Hoodies
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>>
>> Softimage's Final Stand.
>>
>> Roll them t-shirts out.
>>
>> A.
>> _
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
>> https://vimeo.com/adamseeley
>>
>>
>> ____
>> From: Bk 
>> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09
>> Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
>>
>> Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph?
>> I'm serious. It would be so much fun.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing 
>> of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention 
>> Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
>>
>> Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"
>>
>> AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"
>>
>>
>> On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:
>>
>> I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a 
>> lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.
>>
>> Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, 
>> show how much longer it takes.
>>
>> With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might 
>> be interested in seeing what all the noise is about.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I'm not fan of the idea.
>> Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's 
>> to transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
>> As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another 
>> app, it's different.
>>
>> Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's 
>> the whole thing since the "anouncement".
>> "Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."
>>
>> Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing 
>> against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
>>
>> AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.
>>
>> I'm bad, my mother told me ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
>>
>> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in 
>> Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
>>  It would be most entertaining.
>> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had 
>> some experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice 
>> -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they 
>> would usually achieve things in under a week.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 Mar 

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Eric Thivierge]

They did not have a booth last year. They had smaller presentations at 
other company's booths.


On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:31:26 PM, Rob Chapman wrote:

were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year?

http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Rob Chapman]

were Autodesk actually at Siggraph last year..? will they be there this year?

http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-1112659.html



On 19 March 2014 21:20, Perry Harovas  wrote:
> If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this problem
> for themselves
> on the Siggraph show floor, where they always think they are king.
>
> The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they did, but
> if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and care),
> this may not have become such a shit storm.
>
> OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things like
> this (and hopefully doing them)...
>
> They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an
> automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking it
> will
> get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the fireworks,
> but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge will eventually
> snap.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Bk  wrote:
>>
>> Hoodies
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>>
>> Softimage's Final Stand.
>>
>> Roll them t-shirts out.
>>
>> A.
>> _
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
>> https://vimeo.com/adamseeley
>>
>>
>> ____
>> From: Bk 
>> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09
>> Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
>>
>> Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph?
>> I'm serious. It would be so much fun.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of
>> the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric
>> integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
>>
>> Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"
>>
>> AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"
>>
>>
>> On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:
>>
>> I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
>> lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.
>>
>> Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show
>> how much longer it takes.
>>
>> With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
>> interested in seeing what all the noise is about.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I'm not fan of the idea.
>> Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
>> transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
>> As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app,
>> it's different.
>>
>> Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the
>> whole thing since the "anouncement".
>> "Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."
>>
>> Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the
>> users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
>>
>> AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.
>>
>> I'm bad, my mother told me ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
>>
>> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in Softimage
>> and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
>>  It would be most entertaining.
>> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
>> experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 2
>> guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve
>> things in under a week.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a
>> single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did
>> for the Dorrito technique
>>
>> I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
>> the workflow will change
>>
>> By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>&

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Perry Harovas]

If this actually happens, I love the fact that Autodesk created this
problem for themselves
on the Siggraph show floor, where they always think they are king.

The other funny part is, they could have screwed us just like they did, but
if they handled it far different (meaning with humility and care),
this may not have become such a shit storm.

OK, it still would have, but we perhaps wouldn't be discussing things like
this (and hopefully doing them)...

They are doing the equivalent of walking along a wooden bridge with an
automatic rifle, just shooting at the wood in front of them, thinking it
will
get rid of Softimage as well as impress everyone else with the fireworks,
but all it is doing is weakening the bridge and the bridge will eventually
snap.




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Bk  wrote:

> Hoodies
>
>
>
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley  wrote:
>
> Softimage's Final Stand.
>
> Roll them t-shirts out.
>
> A.
> _
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
> https://vimeo.com/adamseeley
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Bk 
> *To:* "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09
> *Subject:* Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
>
> Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph?
> I'm serious. It would be so much fun.
>
>
>
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling 
> wrote:
>
> Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of
> the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric
> integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
>
> Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"
>
> AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"
>
>
> On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:
>
> I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
> lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.
>
> Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show
> how much longer it takes.
>
> With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
> interested in seeing what all the noise is about.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel  > wrote:
>
>  I'm not fan of the idea.
> Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
> transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
> As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app,
> it's different.
>
> Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the
> whole thing since the "anouncement".
> "Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."
>
> Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the
> users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
>
> AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.
>
> I'm bad, my mother told me ...
>
>
>
>
>
> Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
>
> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in Softimage
> and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
>  It would be most entertaining.
> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
> experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
> 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
> achieve things in under a week.
>
>
>
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
> of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
> did for the Dorrito technique
>
>  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
> the workflow will change
>
>  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>
>  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
> about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
> Schnnoegel
>
>
> 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>
> What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
> software
> that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max
> or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition.
>
>  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
> Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
> those that more

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Leendert A. Hartog]

I was thinking the other day how "runonce.bat" could make a nice insider 
t-shirt slogan...


--

Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist
AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  si-community.com

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Bk]

Hoodies



On 19 Mar 2014, at 21:06, Adam Seeley  wrote:

> Softimage's Final Stand.
> 
> Roll them t-shirts out.
> 
> A. 
> _
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
> https://vimeo.com/adamseeley
> 
> 
> From: Bk 
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"  
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09
> Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
> 
> Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm 
> serious. It would be so much fun.
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the 
>> Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric 
>> integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
>> 
>> Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"
>> 
>> AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:
>> I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup 
>> of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. 
>> 
>> Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show 
>> how much longer it takes. 
>> 
>> With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be 
>> interested in seeing what all the noise is about. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel  
>> wrote:
>> I'm not fan of the idea.
>> Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to 
>> transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
>> As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, 
>> it's different.
>> 
>> Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the 
>> whole thing since the "anouncement".
>> "Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."
>> 
>> Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the 
>> users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
>> 
>> AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.
>> 
>> I'm bad, my mother told me ...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
>>> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in Softimage 
>>> and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
>>>  It would be most entertaining.  
>>> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
>>> experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 
>>> 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually 
>>> achieve things in under a week.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a 
>>>> single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did 
>>>> for the Dorrito technique
>>>> 
>>>> I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how 
>>>> the workflow will change
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>>>> 
>>>> Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
>>>> about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark 
>>>> Schnnoegel
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>>>> What
>>>> I don't understand is how
>>>>   they
>>>> want me to
>>>>   make the
>>>> transition to
>>>> a software
>>>> that
>>>>   doesn't
>>>> have the
>>>>   tools
>>>> that
>>>>   I
>>>> used
>>>>   before?
>>>> Such
>>>> as ICE
>>>>   mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't
&

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Adam Seeley]

Softimage's Final Stand.

Roll them t-shirts out.

A. 

_
http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk
https://vimeo.com/adamseeley




>
> From: Bk 
>To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 20:09
>Subject: Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded
> 
>
>
>Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm 
>serious. It would be so much fun.
>
>
>
>
>On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling  
>wrote:
>
>
>Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the 
>Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric 
>integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
>>
>>Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"
>>
>>AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:
>>
>>I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup 
>>of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show 
>>>how much longer it takes. 
>>>
>>>
>>>With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be 
>>>interested in seeing what all the noise is about. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel  
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm not fan of the idea.
>>>>Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone
  want's to transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
>>>>As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in
  another app, it's different.
>>>>
>>>>Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them"
  .That's the whole thing since the "anouncement".
>>>>"Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."
>>>>
>>>>Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing
  against the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more
  money.
>>>>
>>>>AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we
  show you.
>>>>
>>>>I'm bad, my mother told me ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in Softimage 
>>>>and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
>>>>> It would be most entertaining.  
>>>>>Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
>>>>>experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 
>>>>>2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually 
>>>>>achieve things in under a week.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a 
>>>>>single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did 
>>>>>for the Dorrito technique 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how 
>>>>>>the workflow will change
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
>>>>>>about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark 
>>>>>>Schnnoegel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition toa 
>>>>>>software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as ICEmainly,in 
>>>>>>MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is notransition.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I will continueusingSoftimage as long as I can, and 
>>>>>>>complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because these 
>>>>>>>softwares are those that more listen to your users, and that is the 
>>>>>>>future for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera 
>>>>>>>: 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So I head onto:
>>>>>>>>http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I 
>>>>>>>>skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
>>>>>>>>is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what 
>>>>>>>>they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
>>>>>>>>Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even a 
>>>>>>>>word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
>>>>>>>>Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports 
>>>>>>>>families and pays bills...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>David Rivera
>>>>>>>>3D Compositor/Animator
>>>>>>>>LinkedIN
>>>>>>>>Behance
>>>>>>>>VFX Reel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
-- 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>www.pauloduarte.ws
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Gustavo Eggert Boehs]

There is a vacant space by the Foundry... maybe they´ll sponsor it :p

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Nicolas Esposito]

Maybe this, tweaked to "Can't buy
this"?


2014-03-19 21:48 GMT+01:00 David Gallagher :

>
> $38 per foot. If it's educational *which this certainly would be* ;) the
> first 200 square feet is half price.
>
> Our AnimSchool booth in 2012 was 20x10:
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qc37eMNFYFo/UC_O6fCXNcI/Amg/Kiwd6LS21NY/s1600/siggraphPhoto16.JPG
>
> A booth like Zbrush, etc is about 3x that size.
>
> http://s2014.siggraph.org/sites/default/files/SIGGRAPH%202014%20Floor%20Plan.pdf
>
>
>
> On 3/19/2014 2:28 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote:
>
> how much is a siggrath booth i wonder ?
>
>
>
> On 19 March 2014 20:15, Perry Harovas  wrote:
>
>> I would SO do that.
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> An "unofficial" EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get
>>> enough studios to participate...
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist
>>> AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  si-community.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>   --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Perry Harovas
>> Animation and Visual Effects
>>
>> http://www.TheAfterImage.com 
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[David Gallagher]

$38 per foot. If it's educational *which this certainly would be* ;) the 
first 200 square feet is half price.


Our AnimSchool booth in 2012 was 20x10:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qc37eMNFYFo/UC_O6fCXNcI/Amg/Kiwd6LS21NY/s1600/siggraphPhoto16.JPG

A booth like Zbrush, etc is about 3x that size.
http://s2014.siggraph.org/sites/default/files/SIGGRAPH%202014%20Floor%20Plan.pdf


On 3/19/2014 2:28 PM, Sebastien Sterling wrote:

how much is a siggrath booth i wonder ?



On 19 March 2014 20:15, Perry Harovas > wrote:


I would SO do that.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog
mailto:hirazib...@live.nl>> wrote:

An "unofficial" EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can
get enough studios to participate...

-- 


Leendert A. Hartog -- Softimage hobbyist
AKA Hirazi Blue -- Administrator  @, NOT the owner of
si-community.com 





-- 






Perry Harovas
Animation and Visual Effects

http://www.TheAfterImage.com 

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Sebastien Sterling]

how much is a siggrath booth i wonder ?



On 19 March 2014 20:15, Perry Harovas  wrote:

> I would SO do that.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:
>
>> An "unofficial" EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get enough
>> studios to participate...
>>
>> --
>>
>> Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist
>> AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  si-community.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> Perry Harovas
> Animation and Visual Effects
>
> http://www.TheAfterImage.com 
>
>

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Perry Harovas]

The booth would have themed songs like, say, the song "Only the good die
young" on a loop.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Dan Pejril  wrote:

>  Maybe it could be the zombie Softimage booth - "Back from the Dead"!
>
>
>
> On 3/19/2014 4:09 PM, Bk wrote:
>
> Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph?
> I'm serious. It would be so much fun.
>
>
>
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling 
> wrote:
>
>Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing
> of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric
> integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
>
>  Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"
>
>  AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"
>
>
>  On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:
>
>> I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
>> lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.
>>
>>  Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya,
>> show how much longer it takes.
>>
>>  With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
>> interested in seeing what all the noise is about.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel <
>> olivier.jean...@noos.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>  I'm not fan of the idea.
>>> Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
>>> transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
>>> As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another
>>> app, it's different.
>>>
>>> Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the
>>> whole thing since the "anouncement".
>>> "Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."
>>>
>>> Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against
>>> the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
>>>
>>> AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show
>>> you.
>>>
>>> I'm bad, my mother told me ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
>>>
>>> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in
>>> Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video
>>> series.
>>>  It would be most entertaining.
>>> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
>>> experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
>>> 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
>>> achieve things in under a week.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
>>> of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
>>> did for the Dorrito technique
>>>
>>>  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know
>>> how the workflow will change
>>>
>>>  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>>>
>>>  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
>>> about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
>>> Schnnoegel
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>>>
 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition toa 
 software
 that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
 Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
 transition.

  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
 those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera >>> >:

   So I head onto:
> http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
> skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
> is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what
> they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
>
>  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
>  Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even
> a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
>  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
> families and pays bills...
>
>
> *David Rivera*
> *3D Compositor/Animator*
> LinkedIN 
> Behance 
> VFX Reel 
>



  --
 www.pauloduarte.ws

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Dan Pejril
> Upbeat Unique Entertainmentwww.UpbeatUnique.com
>
>


-- 





Perry Harovas
Animation and Visual Effects

http://www.TheAfterImage.com 

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Tenshi Sama]

omg haha xD , that could happen.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of
> the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric
> integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
>
> Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"
>
> AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"
>
>
> On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:
>
>> I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
>> lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.
>>
>> Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya,
>> show how much longer it takes.
>>
>> With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
>> interested in seeing what all the noise is about.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel <
>> olivier.jean...@noos.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>  I'm not fan of the idea.
>>> Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
>>> transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
>>> As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another
>>> app, it's different.
>>>
>>> Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the
>>> whole thing since the "anouncement".
>>> "Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."
>>>
>>> Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against
>>> the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
>>>
>>> AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show
>>> you.
>>>
>>> I'm bad, my mother told me ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
>>>
>>> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in
>>> Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video
>>> series.
>>>  It would be most entertaining.
>>> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
>>> experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
>>> 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
>>> achieve things in under a week.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
>>> of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
>>> did for the Dorrito technique
>>>
>>>  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know
>>> how the workflow will change
>>>
>>>  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>>>
>>>  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
>>> about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
>>> Schnnoegel
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>>>
 What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition toa 
 software
 that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
 Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
 transition.

  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
 Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
 those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera >>> >:

   So I head onto:
> http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
> skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
> is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what
> they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
>
>  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
>  Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even
> a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
>  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
> families and pays bills...
>
>
> *David Rivera*
> *3D Compositor/Animator*
> LinkedIN 
> Behance 
> VFX Reel 
>



  --
 www.pauloduarte.ws

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Perry Harovas]

I would SO do that.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote:

> An "unofficial" EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get enough
> studios to participate...
>
> --
>
> Leendert A. Hartog - Softimage hobbyist
> AKA Hirazi Blue - Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  si-community.com
>
>
>


-- 





Perry Harovas
Animation and Visual Effects

http://www.TheAfterImage.com 

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Greg Punchatz]

Do it!!!

*Greg Punchatz*
*Sr. Creative Director*
Janimation
214.823.7760
www.janimation.com 
On 3/19/2014 2:41 PM, David Gallagher wrote:


I've been thinking of doing some videos entitled "You can't buy this" 
and showing the amazing things I can do with Softimage facial rigging. 
But sorry -- you can't buy this software.

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Dan Pejril]

Maybe it could be the zombie Softimage booth - "Back from the Dead"!


On 3/19/2014 4:09 PM, Bk wrote:
Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at 
siggraph? I'm serious. It would be so much fun.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling 
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:


Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing 
of the Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention 
Fabric integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.


Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"

AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"


On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale > wrote:


I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we
have a lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned
Dave.

Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in
Maya, show how much longer it takes.

With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people
might be interested in seeing what all the noise is about.




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel
mailto:olivier.jean...@noos.fr>> wrote:

I'm not fan of the idea.
Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone
want's to transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in
another app, it's different.

Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them"
.That's the whole thing since the "anouncement".
"Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."

Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean,
nothing against the users, but frankly now you want to help
AD make more money.

AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange
we show you.

I'm bad, my mother told me ...





Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :

I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it
in Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive
workflow video series.
 It would be most entertaining.
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation.
Ive had some experience of this before. One notable occasion
went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a
half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve things in
under a week.



On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com
> wrote:


I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare
the workflow of a single task using Softimage and Maya,
similar to what Emilio Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique

I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want
to know how the workflow will change

By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015
announcement...

Jesus...even with all those request and question they just
don't care about Softimage, not even a single line...except
the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel


2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte
mailto:paulocdua...@gmail.com>>:

What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe
transition toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI
usedbefore? Such as ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't
havemyworkflowagain,sothere is notransition.

I will continueusingSoftimageas long as I can, and
complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary...
because these softwares are those that more listen to
your users, and that is the future for me.


2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera
mailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com>>:

So I head onto:
http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage ,
right? and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght
video, skipping intro
is going straight to the middle, after all the
"verbose"). So what they´re doing? Talking about
maya in a softimage video.

Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement"
there wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15
years career on softimage.
Not even an apology for taking away the the one
thing that supports families and pays bills...

*David Rivera*
/3D Compositor/Animator/
LinkedIN 
Behance 
VFX Reel 




-- 
www.pauloduarte.ws 









--
Dan Pejri

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Leendert A. Hartog]

An "unofficial" EOL showreel might be an idea also, if you can get 
enough studios to participate...


--

Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist
AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator  @, NOT the owner of  si-community.com

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Bk]

Ok. Why don't we all put in some money and hire out a stand at siggraph? I'm 
serious. It would be so much fun.



On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:02, Sebastien Sterling  
wrote:

> Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the 
> Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric 
> integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.
> 
> Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"
> 
> AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"
> 
> 
> On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:
> I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a lineup 
> of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave. 
> 
> Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show 
> how much longer it takes. 
> 
> With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be 
> interested in seeing what all the noise is about. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel  
> wrote:
> I'm not fan of the idea.
> Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to 
> transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
> As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app, 
> it's different.
> 
> Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the 
> whole thing since the "anouncement".
> "Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."
> 
> Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the 
> users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
> 
> AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.
> 
> I'm bad, my mother told me ...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
>> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in Softimage 
>> and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
>>  It would be most entertaining.  
>> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
>> experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 
>> guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve 
>> things in under a week.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a 
>>> single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did 
>>> for the Dorrito technique
>>> 
>>> I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the 
>>> workflow will change
>>> 
>>> By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>>> 
>>> Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about 
>>> Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>>> What
>>> I don't understand is how
>>>   they
>>> want me to
>>>   make the
>>> transition to
>>> a software
>>> that
>>>   doesn't
>>> have the
>>>   tools
>>> that
>>>   I
>>> used
>>>   before?
>>> Such
>>> as ICE
>>>   mainly, in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow 
>>> again, so there is
>>> no
>>>   transition. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I
>>>   will continue
>>> using Softimage as long as
>>>   I can, and
>>>   complement
>>> with Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary...
>>>   because these softwares are those that more listen
>>>   to your users, and that is the future for me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera :
>>> 
>>> So I head onto:
>>> http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped 
>>> intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
>>> is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what they´re 
>>> doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
>>> 
>>> Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
>>> Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even a word 
>>> of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
>>> Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports 
>>> families and pays bills...
>>> 
>>>  
>>> David Rivera
>>> 3D Compositor/Animator
>>> LinkedIN
>>> Behance
>>> VFX Reel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> www.pauloduarte.ws
>>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Sebastien Sterling]

Lol, yeah Adam, it would be funny to have a Softimage booth, showing of the
Latest from Mootz and LK, Pooby and exocortec, not to mention Fabric
integration. a healthy roaster of artists like David.

Press wondering, ..."but aren't you dead ?"

AD staff steaming silently in the corner "Why Won't you DIE !"


On 19 March 2014 19:52, Adam Sale  wrote:

> I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
> lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.
>
> Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show
> how much longer it takes.
>
> With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
> interested in seeing what all the noise is about.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel  > wrote:
>
>>  I'm not fan of the idea.
>> Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
>> transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
>> As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app,
>> it's different.
>>
>> Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the
>> whole thing since the "anouncement".
>> "Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."
>>
>> Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against
>> the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
>>
>> AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.
>>
>> I'm bad, my mother told me ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
>>
>> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in Softimage
>> and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
>>  It would be most entertaining.
>> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
>> experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
>> 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
>> achieve things in under a week.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
>> of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
>> did for the Dorrito technique
>>
>>  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
>> the workflow will change
>>
>>  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>>
>>  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
>> about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
>> Schnnoegel
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>>
>>> What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
>>> software
>>> that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
>>> Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
>>> transition.
>>>
>>>  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
>>> Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
>>> those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera :
>>>
>>>
>>>   So I head onto:
 http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
 skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
 is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what
 they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
  Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even
 a word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
 families and pays bills...


 *David Rivera*
 *3D Compositor/Animator*
 LinkedIN 
 Behance 
 VFX Reel 

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>> www.pauloduarte.ws
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Paul Griswold]

Here's my vote for a challenge.  Do each of these in Softimage and Maya
using only the factory supplied tools.  No external plug-ins allowed, no
building custom C++, Python, etc., tools.

Challenge 1 - build the game Space Invaders

Challenge 2 - build a crowd system

Challenge 3 - build a raytracer

Challenge 4 - build a 2D tracking system

Oh wait Paul already did those in Softimage using ICE.  Ok Maya expert,
your turn.

-PG




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:41 PM, David Gallagher <
davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I've been thinking of doing some videos entitled "You can't buy this" and
> showing the amazing things I can do with Softimage facial rigging. But
> sorry -- you can't buy this software.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/19/2014 1:35 PM, Bk wrote:
>
> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in Softimage
> and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
>  It would be most entertaining.
> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
> experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
> 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
> achieve things in under a week.
>
>
>
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
> of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
> did for the Dorrito technique
>
>  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
> the workflow will change
>
>  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>
>  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
> about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
> Schnnoegel
>
>
> 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>
>> What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
>> software
>> that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
>> Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
>> transition.
>>
>>  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
>> Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
>> those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera :
>>
>>
>>   So I head onto:
>>> http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
>>> skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
>>> is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what
>>> they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
>>>
>>>  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
>>>  Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even a
>>> word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
>>>  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
>>> families and pays bills...
>>>
>>>
>>> *David Rivera*
>>> *3D Compositor/Animator*
>>> LinkedIN 
>>> Behance 
>>> VFX Reel 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>> www.pauloduarte.ws
>>
>
>
>

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Adam Sale]

I think it would be great to have a Siggraph presence where we have a
lineup of Soft artists showing exactly what you mentioned Dave.

Can't do this kind of scenarios, where even if you can do it in Maya, show
how much longer it takes.

With all of the attention being given the EOL of Soft, people might be
interested in seeing what all the noise is about.




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, olivier jeannel
wrote:

>  I'm not fan of the idea.
> Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to
> transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
> As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another app,
> it's different.
>
> Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the
> whole thing since the "anouncement".
> "Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."
>
> Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against the
> users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.
>
> AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.
>
> I'm bad, my mother told me ...
>
>
>
>
>
> Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
>
> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in Softimage
> and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
>  It would be most entertaining.
> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
> experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
> 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
> achieve things in under a week.
>
>
>
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow
> of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez
> did for the Dorrito technique
>
>  I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
> the workflow will change
>
>  By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>
>  Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
> about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
> Schnnoegel
>
>
> 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>
>> What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
>> software
>> that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
>> Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
>> transition.
>>
>>  I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
>> Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
>> those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera :
>>
>>
>>   So I head onto:
>>> http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
>>> skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
>>> is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what
>>> they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
>>>
>>>  Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
>>>  Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even a
>>> word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
>>>  Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
>>> families and pays bills...
>>>
>>>
>>> *David Rivera*
>>> *3D Compositor/Animator*
>>> LinkedIN 
>>> Behance 
>>> VFX Reel 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>> www.pauloduarte.ws
>>
>
>
>

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[olivier jeannel]

I'm not fan of the idea.
Frankly there's tons of tutorial in Maya already. If someone want's to 
transition, there are  a lot of material to train with.
As already said, no need to try to work the same workflow in another 
app, it's different.


Here, it's more "Give us some cool hint so we can copy them" .That's the 
whole thing since the "anouncement".

"Give us your top 5", "what"s the 80% ice nodes..."

Last thing I want to do is help AD in any way. I mean, nothing against 
the users, but frankly now you want to help AD make more money.


AD, Give us the ability to continue to buy seats, in exchange we show you.

I'm bad, my mother told me ...





Le 19/03/2014 20:35, Bk a écrit :
I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in 
Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video 
series.

 It would be most entertaining.
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 
mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would 
usually achieve things in under a week.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com 
> wrote:


I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow 
of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio 
Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique


I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know 
how the workflow will change


By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from 
Mark Schnnoegel



2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte >:


What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition
toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as
ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is
notransition.

I will continueusingSoftimageas long as I can, and
complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because
these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and
that is the future for me.


2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera
mailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com>>:

So I head onto:
http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right?
and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So
what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there
wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on
softimage.
Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that
supports families and pays bills...

*David Rivera*
/3D Compositor/Animator/
LinkedIN 
Behance 
VFX Reel 




-- 
www.pauloduarte.ws 

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[David Gallagher]

I've been thinking of doing some videos entitled "You can't buy this" 
and showing the amazing things I can do with Softimage facial rigging. 
But sorry -- you can't buy this software.




On 3/19/2014 1:35 PM, Bk wrote:
I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in 
Softimage and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video 
series.

 It would be most entertaining.
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 
mins.. 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would 
usually achieve things in under a week.




On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com 
> wrote:


I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow 
of a single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio 
Hernandez did for the Dorrito technique


I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know 
how the workflow will change


By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care 
about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from 
Mark Schnnoegel



2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte >:


What I don't understand is howthey want me tomakethe transition
toa software thatdoesn't have thetools thatI usedbefore? Such as
ICEmainly,in MaxorMaya2015I won't havemyworkflowagain,sothere is
notransition.

I will continueusingSoftimageas long as I can, and
complementwithHoudini,Modo or Blenderwhennecessary... because
these softwares are those that more listen to your users, and
that is the future for me.


2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera
mailto:activemotionpictu...@yahoo.com>>:

So I head onto:
http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right?
and I skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So
what they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.

Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there
wasn´t even a word of consideration for 15 years career on
softimage.
Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that
supports families and pays bills...

*David Rivera*
/3D Compositor/Animator/
LinkedIN 
Behance 
VFX Reel 




-- 
www.pauloduarte.ws 

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Christian Lattuada]

In Paul we trust!!
:)))

.:.
Christian Lattuada

tel +39 3331277475
...


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Bk  wrote:

> I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in Softimage
> and get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
>  It would be most entertaining.
> Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some
> experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins..
> 2 guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually
> achieve things in under a week.
>
>
>
> On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a
> single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did
> for the Dorrito technique
>
> I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how
> the workflow will change
>
> By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
>
> Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care
> about Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark
> Schnnoegel
>
>
> 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
>
>> What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
>> software
>> that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in
>> Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no
>> transition.
>>
>> I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
>> Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
>> those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera :
>>
>>  So I head onto:
>>> http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
>>> skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
>>> is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what
>>> they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
>>>
>>> Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
>>> Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even a
>>> word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
>>> Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
>>> families and pays bills...
>>>
>>>
>>> *David Rivera*
>>> *3D Compositor/Animator*
>>> LinkedIN 
>>> Behance 
>>> VFX Reel 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> www.pauloduarte.ws
>>
>
>

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Bk]

I'd love for AD to agree to a " First get an expert to do it in Softimage and 
get an expert do it in Maya" comparitive workflow video series.
 It would be most entertaining.  
Especially when you start bringing ice into the equation. Ive had some 
experience of this before. One notable occasion went  Me in ice -30 mins.. 2 
guys in Maya- a week and a half, but to be fair, they would usually achieve 
things in under a week.



On 19 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a 
> single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did 
> for the Dorrito technique
> 
> I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the 
> workflow will change
> 
> By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...
> 
> Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about 
> Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel
> 
> 
> 2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :
> What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
> software that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, 
> in Max or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no 
> transition. 
> 
> I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with 
> Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are those 
> that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.
> 
> 
> 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera :
> 
> So I head onto:
> http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I skipped 
> intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
> is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what they´re 
> doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
> 
> Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
> Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even a word 
> of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
> Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports families 
> and pays bills...
> 
>  
> David Rivera
> 3D Compositor/Animator
> LinkedIN
> Behance
> VFX Reel
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> www.pauloduarte.ws
> 

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Nicolas Esposito]

I asked directly to Maurice to do some videos to compare the workflow of a
single task using Softimage and Maya, similar to what Emilio Hernandez did
for the Dorrito technique

I really hope that they'll do that because right now I want to know how the
workflow will change

By the way, on the area blog there's no Softimage 2015 announcement...

Jesus...even with all those request and question they just don't care about
Softimage, not even a single line...except the farewell from Mark Schnnoegel


2014-03-19 19:55 GMT+01:00 Paulo César Duarte :

> What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to a 
> software
> that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max
> or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition.
>
> I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
> Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
> those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.
>
>
> 2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera :
>
>  So I head onto:
>> http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
>> skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
>> is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what
>> they´re doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
>>
>> Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
>> Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even a
>> word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
>> Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
>> families and pays bills...
>>
>>
>> *David Rivera*
>> *3D Compositor/Animator*
>> LinkedIN 
>> Behance 
>> VFX Reel 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> www.pauloduarte.ws
>

Re: Softimage webinar - Q/A - finally uploaded

[Paulo César Duarte]

What I don't understand is how they want me to make the transition to
a software
that doesn't have the tools that I used before? Such as ICE mainly, in Max
or Maya 2015 I won't have my workflow again, so there is no transition.

I will continue using Softimage as long as I can, and complement with
Houdini, Modo or Blender when necessary... because these softwares are
those that more listen to your users, and that is the future for me.


2014-03-19 14:23 GMT-03:00 David Rivera :

> So I head onto:
> http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/softimage , right? and I
> skipped intro (in a 1 hour lenght video, skipping intro
> is going straight to the middle, after all the "verbose"). So what they´re
> doing? Talking about maya in a softimage video.
>
> Quitted. Closed the tab on browser. Go on with my life.
> Now I´m pissed, because at the "last announcement" there wasn´t even a
> word of consideration for 15 years career on softimage.
> Not even an apology for taking away the the one thing that supports
> families and pays bills...
>
>
> *David Rivera*
> *3D Compositor/Animator*
> LinkedIN 
> Behance 
> VFX Reel 
>



-- 
www.pauloduarte.ws